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The P.1121 get's it's feet wet

Started by Gondor, July 06, 2025, 01:13:28 PM

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Gondor

I did a little dry fitting of the frame inside both fuselage halves earlier this evening, and everything looked as if it fitted together well.

So, more cutting of brass to get rid of the excess.



The bits of resin are from the forward support of the main undercarriage bay. Talking of resin...



I glued the engine compressor and frame into place. I then tackled the rear end of the frame.



That's as far as I have gone tonight. The main undercarriage bay and its frame are glued together, but not to the metal frame.

I have to think about the engine exhaust. Do I go with the very nice Reskit F106 exhaust, which is about the correct diameter, or do I go with my scratch-built affair?

I'm thinking that I had better go with the Reskit item. I will look far better than what I can come up with.

Gondor
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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Gondor

I was thinking that Old Wombat and Spino were starting to get a bit brassed off  :rolleyes:  I know I was. The idea of the frame is to hold everything together. I know I have probably said that before, but to me, it was the way I saw the construction of some kind of support frame for all the internals, to help keep it square.

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Spino

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Quote from: Gondor on September 19, 2025, 06:24:20 AMI was thinking that Old Wombat and Spino were starting to get a bit brassed off  :rolleyes:  I know I was.

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Epic pun there lol.  I can imagine you were, I myself was starting to get in a rut of thinking "oh, Gondor's posted another photo of brass bits"...
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Gondor

Oh No!, Another picture of brass bits!



I had to post it as I added a section to the back of the nose undercarriage bay so that if I fitted it into the fuselage, I could then correctly locate the rest of the frame to it.

I have also trimmed back the rear of the resin of the nose wheel bay and added a hool of plastic around the engine intake. I am seriously going to have to paint that engine front or I will end up glueing parts together and then not be able to get at it to paint.



I know it looks as if I have not done much, but in the background, lots of test fitting and adjustment of the intakes has been going on, and a lot of scratching my head. Thankfully, no splinters encountered

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Gondor on September 20, 2025, 11:13:49 AMin the background, lots of test fitting and adjustment of the intakes has been going on, and a lot of scratching my head. Thankfully, no splinters encountered


One always needs a lot of test fitting and contemplating. :thumbsup:
As someone who used to (and often still does...) slap things together and then have to pull them apart again, I can attest to this.*

*otherwise known as "Don't Ask, etc" - or "I know this now..." ;D

Wardukw

This is exactly the reason i'm chicken of vac form ..the first thing is a masters degree in structural engineering just the be able to put the fuse together  :o  :o
Al this a wonderful work mate ,,really is ,,what i'd do now is leave one side finished and the other side open to show off all your work  :thumbsup:

Specking of which ,,here was a guy on trademe selling a vac form He-111 in 1/fecking 32nd scale !!! ,,did i want it ??? ummm well still no answer to that from be as i was kinda thinking it'd be cool but the reason i haven't brought ,,he only wanted $25 NZ for it ...there's som damage ,,,the reason was pick up only and i'm not flying to damn near the bottom of the south lsland to get it .   
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
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Gondor

Quote from: Wardukw on September 20, 2025, 09:12:53 PMThis is exactly the reason i'm chicken of vac form ..the first thing is a masters degree in structural engineering just the be able to put the fuse together  :o  :o
Al this a wonderful work mate ,,really is ,,what i'd do now is leave one side finished and the other side open to show off all your work  :thumbsup:

Specking of which ,,here was a guy on trademe selling a vac form He-111 in 1/fecking 32nd scale !!! ,,did i want it ??? ummm well still no answer to that from be as i was kinda thinking it'd be cool but the reason i haven't brought ,,he only wanted $25 NZ for it ...there's som damage ,,,the reason was pick up only and i'm not flying to damn near the bottom of the south lsland to get it .   

As I said before, vacforms are not too bad. The biggest difficulty I find with them is getting rid of the lip around the edges of the parts. This build is taking so long because I am adding things like folded wings and he air intake trunking, and the engine front. Things that would not normally be included in a lot of usual model kits, let alone vacforms!

As for larger vacforms, I have been following a 1/32 build of a Shorts Stirling on Britmodeller. What the builder has done with it is amazing.

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Gondor on September 21, 2025, 03:08:08 AMAs for larger vacforms, I have been following a 1/32 build of a Shorts Stirling on Britmodeller. What the builder has done with it is amazing.


WHAT?  :o

That'll  be about 2 FEET tall!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2025, 03:17:10 AM
Quote from: Gondor on September 21, 2025, 03:08:08 AMAs for larger vacforms, I have been following a 1/32 build of a Shorts Stirling on Britmodeller. What the builder has done with it is amazing.


WHAT?  :o

That'll  be about 2 FEET tall!

You could climb into it and fly it if it had engines.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

Gondor

No idea Kit, HERE is the link to the build.
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Phew, that's HUGE!

Until I read that build I'd forgotten that the Stirling had bomb bays in the wings too!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

He started his new post with "Evening all " and then followed with this line "With the waters now settled on my 1/32nd Sunderland build"  :o  :o  :o
The guy is demented in the best possible way  :wacko:
That's an amazing build ,,,I know if i ever did have a play with a Vac kit it would have to be 48th or bigger ,,just to make life easier with it's size.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Gondor

There was, it's out of production and copies are going for silly money, a 1/48 vacform Avro Vulcan. I believe several people have sneaked the box past the other half by saying the box contained a small table  :rolleyes:
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

scautomoton

Quote from: Gondor on September 21, 2025, 11:40:44 AMThere was, it's out of production and copies are going for silly money, a 1/48 vacform Avro Vulcan. I believe several people have sneaked the box past the other half by saying the box contained a small table  :rolleyes:
I think there was a build on BM. The finished article was certainly imposing.
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PR19_Kit

#149
That 1/48 Vulcan kit was one of John Adam's masterpieces. He was Mr Aeroclub of course.

The BM build thread is here.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235127886-aeroclub-148-vulcan/
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit