The Rules - Mark II

[NARSES2]

Right as I've said we've gone back to square one and a clean sheet of paper, so all previous disscusions on the Rules, especialy as to what they do and do not allow are null and void.

1. The Lunar Vehicles/Spacecraft GB begins 00:01 01/08/2025  and ends 23:59 31/10/2025 (all times local).  An extension may/may not be considered/granted according to demand.

2.  Physical models of any scale, profiles, and/or stories are eligible, but they must be whiffery.

  A) The GB only covers spacecraft and vehicles launched and used within our Solar System. You may build models of probes intended for travel beyond our solar system, but they can not be manned.

  B)  Launches and recoveries can be made from Earth and/ or other planets and moons within our solar system. Vehicles may also be used on  planets, other than Earth, moons and even asteroids within our Solar system. Space docks/stations will be considered by the Mods on request.

3.  You may build, draw or write as many entries as you like (good luck!).  The posting of in-progress pictures is encouraged as always. If you are unsure as to how to post pictures of your build on site then please contact Narses2 by Personal Message and he will go through it with you.

When posting your finished models in the Finished Builds Thread can you try and stick as closely as possible to the following format.

Title : By (entrants user name) : a brief description backstory/explanation (100 characters or so) : and a maximum of three pictures with a link to the build/progress thread. This will also apply to profiles/images.

Where members have written a story for their GB entry, they should post it in the Finished Builds Thread as normal.

Can members also refrain from posting any comments regarding entries within the Finished Builds Thread but use the link to the main build/progress thread page for these. This makes the Moderators task when it comes to organising the poll much simpler.

4.  Preparation work is allowed prior to the start of the GB but is limited to removal and cleaning up of parts from sprues, casting blocks or cutting out vacform parts from their backing sheet, even designing and printing your own decals.  The design and printing of 3D parts is also allowed, but no assembly. Anything involving modification of parts, test fitting, pre-painting and actual assembly is not allowed prior to the start of the GB, but see Rule 5 below.

5.  Part-started models may be used purely at the discretion of the Moderators providing they are not too close to being finished, and this will be the Moderators decision. You must send pictures of the model you intend to use in the GB, along with a rough idea of what your plans for it are via a PM and their decision will be final. However, they must have been started prior to the current GB Season's themes being announced. We will be relying on the integrity of the membership to uphold this rule. If using a part started kit then this should be clearly stated at the beginning of your build thread.

Scrapped models that have been reduced to component parts or sections can be used, although you should check with the Moderators if you are not sure about the eligibility of those you intend to use. You can also use a completed sub-assembly taken from a kit which may have been previously assembled and which the whiffer wants to build into their GB entry. If in doubt, then as usual contact the Moderators with as much information as possible.

6.  No rule 6 - is there ever a rule 6? It's one rule or another so from now on it's 6.

7.  Moderators are McColm and Narses2

8.  The completed entries thread will be locked at the end of the GB and only those items posted prior to it being locked will be eligible for the vote. shortly afterwards the poll will be set up.  The number of votes per forum member will be based upon a ratio of one vote per three entries, rounded up or down to the nearest whole number.

In the event of a tie there will be no run-off. We will simply have a joint first place and then a third place (no second) this is to preserve the three into the Whiffies as detailed in Rule 9. Similarly, a three way tie will mean there is no second and third. (Please don't ask me about a four way tie !)

9.  The first three placed entries in the Group Build will automatically be nominated for a Whiffy in the specific Group Build Class.

Well that's it "Let loose the dogs of war"

[Gondor]

Does this cover things that appear in cartoon series?

[McColm]

Does this cover things that appear in cartoon series?

Sorry that's not allowed for this GB.

[McColm]

After weeks of consultation this GB covers the real world, so no Sci-fi, no movie/film or TV shows, no cartoons or fiction books, no fantasy related whiffery.

You can use the following as a rough guide:

It was supposed to be used including prototypes or test pieces

It's in use.

Or it will be used with the relevant backstory.

[McColm]

After weeks of consultation this GB covers the real world, so no Sci-fi, no movie/film or TV shows, no cartoons or fiction books, no fantasy related whiffery.

Pointless Group Build then on a Whiff Forum then.

Oh yea of little faith you haven't seen what I intend to build.

[Weaver]

So what-if vehicles in the real-life solar system, with technology limited to what's either currently possible, or credibly possible in the near-future, yes?

What about things that were proposed in real life, and were considered credible at the time, but wouldn't be with the state of current knowledge?
I'm thinking about the various Von Braun/Willy Ley proposals from the 1950s here.

[McColm]

So what-if vehicles in the real-life solar system, with technology limited to what's either currently possible, or credibly possible in the near-future, yes?

What about things that were proposed in real life, and were considered credible at the time, but wouldn't be with the state of current knowledge?
I'm thinking about the various Von Braun/Willy Ley proposals from the 1950s here.

Yes proposed things in  the real world are permitted as long as there's a backstory to explain what the purpose of it is.

[Weaver]

So what-if vehicles in the real-life solar system, with technology limited to what's either currently possible, or credibly possible in the near-future, yes?

What about things that were proposed in real life, and were considered credible at the time, but wouldn't be with the state of current knowledge?
I'm thinking about the various Von Braun/Willy Ley proposals from the 1950s here.

Yes proposed things in  the real world are permitted as long as there's a backstory to explain what the purpose of it is.

Gotcha - "technology that has been considered credible by serious people at some point", you might say.

[McColm]

So what-if vehicles in the real-life solar system, with technology limited to what's either currently possible, or credibly possible in the near-future, yes?

What about things that were proposed in real life, and were considered credible at the time, but wouldn't be with the state of current knowledge?
I'm thinking about the various Von Braun/Willy Ley proposals from the 1950s here.

Yes proposed things in  the real world are permitted as long as there's a backstory to explain what the purpose of it is.

Gotcha - "technology that has been considered credible by serious people at some point", you might say.

Just as the Conroy Virtus Turbo-Three was considered, NASA-Langley had a wind tunnel model built which underwent testing but never made it to full size. Even the Myasischev Design Bureau produced the M-90 series of outsize cargo lifters for the space programme, most of them weren't built.

[NARSES2]

Can I just say that after seeeing this thread for the first time since I innitiated it that I am in consultation with my fellow moderator. I'm also a tad miffed.

Please bear with me.

Chris