The English Electric Dalgety, the 'Just in case' project. - DONE!

[rickshaw]

Very nice, Kit,

As for a close engined Canberra, I did one a few years ago of "how the Canberra should have been designed".  I painted it in PRU blue.

[Wardukw]

Very nice, Kit,

As for a close engined Canberra, I did one a few years ago of "how the Canberra should have been designed".  I painted it in PRU blue.

Bloody hell Bri !!! ...beat me to it even tho the idea didn't exist in my head until Kit mentioned it only a few days ago 🙃
So since you built the British version how's about the US version since mine is a B-57 also I'm liking the thought of moving the nose gear in front of the cockpit..also I've an idea for much more aerodynamic looking engine intakes .
I do like the wing tip tanks on yours bud ..might be nicking those   

[rickshaw]

Very nice, Kit,

As for a close engined Canberra, I did one a few years ago of "how the Canberra should have been designed".  I painted it in PRU blue.

Bloody hell Bri !!! ...beat me to it even tho the idea didn't exist in my head until Kit mentioned it only a few days ago 🙃
So since you built the British version how's about the US version since mine is a B-57 also I'm liking the thought of moving the nose gear in front of the cockpit..also I've an idea for much more aerodynamic looking engine intakes .
I do like the wing tip tanks on yours bud ..might be nicking those   

You are welcome to take what ever you like, mate.   

[PR19_Kit]

As for a close engined Canberra, I did one a few years ago of "how the Canberra should have been designed".  I painted it in PRU blue.

Hells bells Brian, how could I have forgotten THAT masterpiece of yours?   

I thought it was magnificent then and I still do, it made SO much more sense than the way Petter did it originally. Your backstory only left out the Dalgety of course. 

Phil, moving the nosewheel would make sense too, the Canberra has a VERY short wheelbase and taxi-ing them must have been a real bear in the RW. Certainly decently designed Flight Sim versions are VERY twitchy to taxi.

[Wardukw]

As for a close engined Canberra, I did one a few years ago of "how the Canberra should have been designed".  I painted it in PRU blue.

Hells bells Brian, how could I have forgotten THAT masterpiece of yours?   

I thought it was magnificent then and I still do, it made SO much more sense than the way Petter did it originally. Your backstory only left out the Dalgety of course. 

Phil, moving the nosewheel would make sense too, the Canberra has a VERY short wheelbase and taxi-ing them must have been a real bear in the RW. Certainly decently designed Flight Sim versions are VERY twitchy to taxi.

It's one thing about the Canberra I could not quite get my head around is that nose gear ..why so close together ?
Like ya said ..taxi-ing must have been a real pain but the turing circle must have been bloody impressive 😆
You almost get the impression that they designed the plane and at the last moment they realized they'd forgotten something 😆

[rickshaw]

The problem with the Canberra is lack of room.  You have most of the nose full of a pressure cabin.  How would you fit a nose wheel?  So they put it as far forward as they could but they had to put it behind the pressure bulkhead.  So you have a short wheelbase.  Now, they could have increased the depth of the pressure cabin and scabbed the wheel well on underneath it but would have been rather ugly and the Canberra would have sat rather high.  We would have ended up like the Stirling with the crew perched up rather high.  Petter obviously decided against that.

[Wardukw]

The problem with the Canberra is lack of room.  You have most of the nose full of a pressure cabin.  How would you fit a nose wheel?  So they put it as far forward as they could but they had to put it behind the pressure bulkhead.  So you have a short wheelbase.  Now, they could have increased the depth of the pressure cabin and scabbed the wheel well on underneath it but would have been rather ugly and the Canberra would have sat rather high.  We would have ended up like the Stirling with the crew perched up rather high.  Petter obviously decided against that.

Ahhh yes all very true but with mine being a B-57 the pilots sit behind each other not side by side and I'm working on the principle that there's plenty of room 
And if i have to I'll lengthen the bugga to make it fit .
Even tho I've got zero idea how I'd do that right now. 

[Rick Lowe]

Pipe from Mitre 10.
 

[Wardukw]

Pipe from Mitre 10.
 

Hahaha 😀 😆
I'm not that crude and besides..ive already got a supply of pipe     

[Rick Lowe]

Once it's got a coat of paint, they'll only know if you tell them 
Gluing and filling now, those could be Issues...

[Wardukw]

Once it's got a coat of paint, they'll only know if you tell them 
Gluing and filling now, those could be Issues...

It's not the filling and sanding and glueing..it's the shape ..the Canberra had such a fat blunt nose and she's a chunky monkey anyway trying to get a shape which looks good is the fun part 

[PR19_Kit]

Ahhh yes all very true but with mine being a B-57 the pilots sit behind each other not side by side and I'm working on the principle that there's plenty of room 

The only Canberra which has side by side crew are the T4s, and they wish they WEREN'T side by side as there's no room in there at all!

Normally the pilot sits up front, but off to port a bit, and the radio-operator sits behind him, with the nav-bomb aimer on his right. He has to wriggle past the pilot to lie on the bomb aiming couch to earn his combat pay. For the B(I)8 the crew's in the same positions as the earlier types, but it just looks as if the pilot's offset to port. He's actually in exactly the same position as he is in the B2/6.

In the PR9s, the nav sits right in he nose, under a frangible hatch so his bang seat can get him clear, but on the other PR variants, the 3 and 7, the nose is empty of crew, they're behind the pilot as in the bombers.

Maybe for a whiffed B-57 you could move the nose gear forward of the front cockpit bulkhead, as it has no crew members, bomb aiming or otherwise, in that space.

[rickshaw]

I used a piece of dowel when I constructed my Maritime Recce turbo-prop version of the Canberra.

[PR19_Kit]

Now that's different too Brian! 

AND it's got longer wings as well!  What are the engines, they look like Darts or Elands?

[Later] Ah, I've re-read your original thread now, they're Tynes, presumably from a C-160.

[rickshaw]

Now that's different too Brian! 

AND it's got longer wings as well!  What are the engines, they look like Darts or Elands?

[Later] Ah, I've re-read your original thread now, they're Tynes, presumably from a C-160.

They were from a Mach2 Atlantic, Kit.