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LeA Mirage IIIVB - FINISHED!

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kerick

Quote from: jcf on April 03, 2025, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: kerick on April 02, 2025, 11:38:45 AMSounds like the illness didn't last too long at least.
Nothing like sprucing up a house just so you can sell it and then the new owners just tear it up again.
Especially the eejits who've bought into the stupid remodel porn reality shows.
No you feckin' muppets smashing the old cabinets and fixtures out of the kitchen
is not a good idea. It's stupid drama for the show and when they eff something
up it isn't shown, it's fixed off camera. No, you're not going to be able to do a full
reno in four days, no it won't be as cheap as the shows claim etc. etc.

Especially the people who move into a house with lots of beautiful woodwork then paint it all white and the walls grey. I'm also a wood worker when not building models so that's a crime in my book.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

jcf

Quote from: kerick on April 03, 2025, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: jcf on April 03, 2025, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: kerick on April 02, 2025, 11:38:45 AMSounds like the illness didn't last too long at least.
Nothing like sprucing up a house just so you can sell it and then the new owners just tear it up again.
Especially the eejits who've bought into the stupid remodel porn reality shows.
No you feckin' muppets smashing the old cabinets and fixtures out of the kitchen
is not a good idea. It's stupid drama for the show and when they eff something
up it isn't shown, it's fixed off camera. No, you're not going to be able to do a full
reno in four days, no it won't be as cheap as the shows claim etc. etc.

Especially the people who move into a house with lots of beautiful woodwork then paint it all white and the walls grey. I'm also a wood worker when not building models so that's a crime in my book.
I hear ya brother. One of the things that sold us on our 1951 house is that all of the mouldings, doors, built-ins and cabinets were varnished wood. In the public areas, foyer, short hall to bdrms and great room (living, dining) it's all mahogany. Kitchen, utility, bath and bedrooms are fir, some of it VG. The baseboards are 4" streamline in both types of wood. Mahogany doors, interiors hollow core, front and back solid. Floors are oak except in kitchen, utility and bath. The kitchen cabinets are birch ply doors and drawerfronts with a 3/4" fir ply and VG fir carcase. The filler panel between the top of the cabinets and the kitchen ceiling is a single 15.5 ft X 7.5" X .75" VG fir plank, tight grain and completely clear. But ya know damned well whoever has the house after we've popped our clogs will rip it all out and replace it with the flavour of the month, because it's "old". Bland crap that will look out of date by the next year and reveal its shoddy construction within months of the work being done, if not during the build.

kerick

I built my own kitchen cabinets. Custom made with solid oak doors and front frames. 3/4" fir plywood everywhere else. The upstairs bathroom cabinets too. I've redone all the trim and the doors in the house with oak to replace the cheap original stuff. I learned everything from my dad and used his shop. It's quite the family tradition as my son and his cousins are very good at it too.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

NARSES2

Quote from: kerick on April 03, 2025, 09:37:20 PMI built my own kitchen cabinets. Custom made with solid oak doors and front frames. 3/4" fir plywood everywhere else. The upstairs bathroom cabinets too. I've redone all the trim and the doors in the house with oak to replace the cheap original stuff. I learned everything from my dad and used his shop. It's quite the family tradition as my son and his cousins are very good at it too.

You and my brother would get on, he was a 7 year apprenticed shipwright, still has a love and "feel" for wood  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

kerick

Quote from: NARSES2 on April 04, 2025, 05:37:30 AM
Quote from: kerick on April 03, 2025, 09:37:20 PMI built my own kitchen cabinets. Custom made with solid oak doors and front frames. 3/4" fir plywood everywhere else. The upstairs bathroom cabinets too. I've redone all the trim and the doors in the house with oak to replace the cheap original stuff. I learned everything from my dad and used his shop. It's quite the family tradition as my son and his cousins are very good at it too.

You and my brother would get on, he was a 7 year apprenticed shipwright, still has a love and "feel" for wood  :thumbsup:

Boat building would be a whole different world! But fun I bet.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

NARSES2

Quote from: kerick on April 04, 2025, 06:08:02 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on April 04, 2025, 05:37:30 AM
Quote from: kerick on April 03, 2025, 09:37:20 PMI built my own kitchen cabinets. Custom made with solid oak doors and front frames. 3/4" fir plywood everywhere else. The upstairs bathroom cabinets too. I've redone all the trim and the doors in the house with oak to replace the cheap original stuff. I learned everything from my dad and used his shop. It's quite the family tradition as my son and his cousins are very good at it too.

You and my brother would get on, he was a 7 year apprenticed shipwright, still has a love and "feel" for wood  :thumbsup:

Boat building would be a whole different world! But fun I bet.

When the shipyards closed he ended up forming his own building business with mates from the yards, as between them  they had all the skills necessary. He did tell me once though that a 7 year apprenticeship was "one year making tea, one year learning the job, and five as cheap labour". All a long time ago now, back in the late 50's/early 60's when the GB had a shipbuilding industry.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Weaver

Quote from: jcf on April 03, 2025, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: kerick on April 03, 2025, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: jcf on April 03, 2025, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: kerick on April 02, 2025, 11:38:45 AMSounds like the illness didn't last too long at least.
Nothing like sprucing up a house just so you can sell it and then the new owners just tear it up again.
Especially the eejits who've bought into the stupid remodel porn reality shows.
No you feckin' muppets smashing the old cabinets and fixtures out of the kitchen
is not a good idea. It's stupid drama for the show and when they eff something
up it isn't shown, it's fixed off camera. No, you're not going to be able to do a full
reno in four days, no it won't be as cheap as the shows claim etc. etc.

Especially the people who move into a house with lots of beautiful woodwork then paint it all white and the walls grey. I'm also a wood worker when not building models so that's a crime in my book.
I hear ya brother. One of the things that sold us on our 1951 house is that all of the mouldings, doors, built-ins and cabinets were varnished wood. In the public areas, foyer, short hall to bdrms and great room (living, dining) it's all mahogany. Kitchen, utility, bath and bedrooms are fir, some of it VG. The baseboards are 4" streamline in both types of wood. Mahogany doors, interiors hollow core, front and back solid. Floors are oak except in kitchen, utility and bath. The kitchen cabinets are birch ply doors and drawerfronts with a 3/4" fir ply and VG fir carcase. The filler panel between the top of the cabinets and the kitchen ceiling is a single 15.5 ft X 7.5" X .75" VG fir plank, tight grain and completely clear. But ya know damned well whoever has the house after we've popped our clogs will rip it all out and replace it with the flavour of the month, because it's "old". Bland crap that will look out of date by the next year and reveal its shoddy construction within months of the work being done, if not during the build.

If you tried to build that from new in the UK today, the wood would cost you more than the rest of the house... :banghead:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

Well after being variously ill and busy for much of the GB period, I am now working on this again.  :thumbsup:

Nozzle holes in fuselage cut and fitted with Harrier mounting plates (the nozzles on the model won't move - too difficult).

Fuselage tail cut off for blanking cone (F-4E nose)

Intake blanks made with evergreen

Holes drilled in nose, tail and wings for RCS jets

Cockpit & seat painted black

Nozzles painted

As usual, I'm beginning to regret using a cheap and crappy old kit (Airfix Mirage IIIC) since half the work I'm doing is fixing it's failings rather than building the whiff... :banghead:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Wardukw

Luckily in the 48th world academy's Mirage lll is cheap and plentiful..it's pretty easy to build too.
I think academy do a 72nd one to which is great as wiff fodder  :thumbsup:

To late now of course but hey ..your back at it now mate which is great 👍
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Weaver

Quote from: Wardukw on May 13, 2025, 11:53:31 AMLuckily in the 48th world academy's Mirage lll is cheap and plentiful..it's pretty easy to build too.
I think academy do a 72nd one to which is great as wiff fodder  :thumbsup:

To late now of course but hey ..your back at it now mate which is great 👍

Well I have got other, better 1/72nd Mirages, but I have plans for those which actually involve them still being credible Mirages.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

#25
Major bits together, currently sitting in a lego jig that's designed to bend the wings up slightly to close up the wing-root gaps.

Dear God, the fit of this kit is awful - the amount of sanding I've had to do just to get the fuselage halves to line up is ridiculous.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Wardukw

I had a nightmare yrs ago Harold with a badly twisted fuselage from a Monogram 48th B-24 ...the amount twisting and bending was ridiculous that I had to do..same as you ..built a jig to pull the twist out ..it was like the plastic had a evil memory and the twist wouldn't stay gone ..I did something I'd not done before with a model kit..I scrapped the fuselage and kept everything else.
Never experienced anything like that before or since.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Weaver

#27
Fuselage out of it's jig:



I think it's got enough weight at the front now, due to the amount of Evergreen making the intake ducts, to not need nose weigth, but I might put some in anyhow, having been burned before. I'm leaving out the intake splitter and "souris" (half-cones): this thing needs all the airflow it can get (there's a dorsal intake to come yet).

I also noticed something for the first time: I've got the two aft nozzles out of line, front-to-back. If I'd noticed it before I joined the fusealge halves up, I could have broken out my other Airfix Mirage and had another go, but it's a bit late now... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

Oh well, it's supposed to be an incompetent effort anyway.... :rolleyes:

Not sure if I want to add fairings in front of the nozzles yet.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

OK, now I know this is the 'Bad Idea' GB, but is that the reason why the lift jets are ABOVE the wings?

Or are you going to drill holes in the wings next to them to let the exhaust out?  :-\
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 15, 2025, 12:29:29 PMOK, now I know this is the 'Bad Idea' GB, but is that the reason why the lift jets are ABOVE the wings?

Or are you going to drill holes in the wings next to them to let the exhaust out?  :-\

Nope, that's the way it's meant to be.  :wacko:

Literally my first idea for the Really Bad Ideas thread I started ages ago was a low-wing Harrier.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones