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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2019, 05:00:38 am »
I know Lynx was fastest but Mi24 also held a speed record.

And it seems the Chinook is even faster. Now that's scary!!

I don't know if that's ironic but in case of 😁
A modified Mi-24B, named A-10, was used in several speed and time-to-climb world record attempts. The helicopter had been modified to reduce weight as much as possible—one measure was the removal of the stub wings.The official speed record set on 13 August 1975 over a closed 1000 km course of 332.65 km/h (206.7 mph) still stands, as do many of the female-specific records set by the all-female crew of Galina Rastorguyeva and Lyudmila Polyanskaya. On 21 September 1978, the A-10 set the absolute speed record for helicopters with 368.4 km/h (228.9 mph) over a 15/25 km course. The record stood until 1986, when it was broken by the current official record holder, a modified Westland Lynx.

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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2019, 06:24:44 am »
Defiant.  Can't they think up their own names?

Every time I see a VW T-Roc crossover-SUV-thing I think of Turret-fighter Roc...

Hmm:

VW T-Roc maximum weight 1780 kg
Blackburn Roc maximum weight 3685 kg

Almost exactly twice the weight!  What an odd coincidence.
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2019, 08:48:45 am »
And yet the VW can't even lift off.............  ;)
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2019, 11:46:34 pm »
I know Lynx was fastest but Mi24 also held a speed record.

And it seems the Chinook is even faster. Now that's scary!!

I don't know if that's ironic but in case of 😁
A modified Mi-24B, named A-10, was used in several speed and time-to-climb world record attempts. The helicopter had been modified to reduce weight as much as possible—one measure was the removal of the stub wings.The official speed record set on 13 August 1975 over a closed 1000 km course of 332.65 km/h (206.7 mph) still stands, as do many of the female-specific records set by the all-female crew of Galina Rastorguyeva and Lyudmila Polyanskaya. On 21 September 1978, the A-10 set the absolute speed record for helicopters with 368.4 km/h (228.9 mph) over a 15/25 km course. The record stood until 1986, when it was broken by the current official record holder, a modified Westland Lynx.

I'm talking about actual in-service aircraft, not stripped down "specials".

Chinook F - 315 Kph
Mil-35M - 310 Kph

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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2019, 02:38:43 am »

I'm talking about actual in-service aircraft, not stripped down "specials".

Chinook F - 315 Kph
Mil-35M - 310 Kph

I don't know about the Mil, but that's the VNE ( 170kts ) for the Chinook, nose down and everything vibrating; you won't be flying level at that speed, 150kts is the max cruise.  Basically the same as an early-1980s Super Puma ( 167 and 150 respectively ).

Other service VNE in kts I've dug out of old docs:

AH-1Z 200, tested to 223
SA.366 175
A109 168, tested to 185
Bell 222 150 ( go Airwolf! )
Bell 407 140
Bell 47G 90


Now, there were some helis capable of exceeding their placarded VNE in level flight; the SH-2G had so much power that it could do so with ease, because the Navy had transferred the VNE over from the single-engined models.  In fact I think it could hit VNE level with one engine shut-down!
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2019, 06:18:47 am »

I'm talking about actual in-service aircraft, not stripped down "specials".

Chinook F - 315 Kph
Mil-35M - 310 Kph

I don't know about the Mil, but that's the VNE ( 170kts ) for the Chinook, nose down and everything vibrating; you won't be flying level at that speed, 150kts is the max cruise.  Basically the same as an early-1980s Super Puma ( 167 and 150 respectively ).

Other service VNE in kts I've dug out of old docs:

AH-1Z 200, tested to 223
SA.366 175
A109 168, tested to 185
Bell 222 150 ( go Airwolf! )
Bell 407 140
Bell 47G 90


Now, there were some helis capable of exceeding their placarded VNE in level flight; the SH-2G had so much power that it could do so with ease, because the Navy had transferred the VNE over from the single-engined models.  In fact I think it could hit VNE level with one engine shut-down!

Knots to kilometres/hour conversion: multiply the speed value (kts) by 1.852

170kts = 314.84kmh
200kts = 370.40kmh
etc.
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2019, 10:52:14 pm »
What's VNE?

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2019, 12:19:36 am »
Literally, VNE = Velocity Never Exceed, although, in the mathematical sense, "speed" is the more accurate term (velocity should include a direction, whereas speed does not).
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2019, 03:12:55 am »
Agusta A019 is quite similar to the Bell 222.  There where several attempts to copy Airwolf and the A109 would make a good basis.  Sikorsky S-76 is another possibility, finding a kit would be a problem though.
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2019, 03:49:55 pm »
The S-76 was used in series as a basis for the HX-1 in the episode, erm, "HX-1" in early series 2 - all the fight scenes were re-used for the S3 episode "And a child shall lead" with Frank Burns from "MASH" as the villain!



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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2019, 02:21:45 am »
Course it was, forgot the HX1 was an S-76, thanks Lee. :thumbsup:
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2019, 02:01:03 am »
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Re: Airwolf 1/48 - "serious" approach :)
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2019, 08:13:41 am »
Westlands did some serious work on supersonic rotors to try to squeeze more speed out of helicopters without running into problems of retreating blade stall
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