IBG MODELS

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jcf

Quote from: Charlie_c67 on April 19, 2026, 02:34:33 PMI'm afraid I'd call it as AI. I'm not hugely au fait with German designs, but using some indicators that tend to be across the board:
- The tender looks to have three pairs of wheels, but is also fixed to the engine with no apparent means of articulation.
- It also appears to be a 2-6-something or a 2-4-something, again with a fixed pony truck. It could be radial I guess, but I don't believe that was used on the leading wheels, more the trailing.
- To my knowledge, tank engines didn't tend to have smoke deflectors as they never went fast enough for it to be an issue.

That's not to say the weird and wonderful never happened (see Turbomotive, LNERs W1, Holden's Decapod) but this stretches things a little too far!
Call it what you want, you're completely wrong. It's like the tiresome "AI experts" on Facebook who call out everything with which they're unfamiliar as AI. I've seen some muppets call out Keith Woodcock illustrations as "AI", amongst other artists FFS.
SMDH
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The illustration is by Piotr Forkasiewicz and he's done numerous box art illustrations for
Eduard and other companies.

Piotr Forkasiewicz Portfolio


PR19_Kit

Great artist though Mr. Forkasiewicz is, it doesn't stop him drawing fictional items though, as a perusal of that portfolio will show.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 20, 2026, 01:39:04 PMGreat artist though Mr. Forkasiewicz is, it doesn't stop him drawing fictional items though, as a perusal of that portfolio will show.
Keep movin' those goalposts Kit.
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Old Wombat

#63
To back Jon up here;

As a commercial artist it is Mr Forkasiewicz's job to sell the product in the box, & his illustration of the Spitfire in the foreground is excellent, everything else is incidental to that image &, unless the artist is slavishly recreating a photograph, entirely fictional no matter who's painting it.

The scene "above" the foreground Spitfire is there to give the impression of rolling stock shrouded in smoke.

In fact, the train (although it should be billowing a cloud of steam, not fire) looks a lot like it's quite closely based on a BR24 Fleischmann;

Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Beermonster58

#64
Why all the fuss about the background details on the box art. It's  just a picture designed to help sell a model. It doesn't matter what it looks like as long as the box contents are ok. They can stick it in a plain box with a sticker on it for all I care. Honestly! ;D  ;D . As if counting rivets wasn't bad enough.

 I well remember a multi page  whineathon over in another site whose name cannot be mentioned, full of comments from people who couldn't find anything to complain about in the kit so, they turned to the box art instead.
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

zenrat

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

NARSES2

OK Gents, lets just try and remember that a little politeness goes a long way. Just because you either know or think you know more about a subject than somebody else that is no excuse for either being rude or jumping down someones throat.

I've come preaty to close to deleting replys here. I don't want to do that, but I will if people continue in such an aggressive manner.

Thank you.

Chris
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Charlie_c67

So, the Spitfire prototypes are going for £42 at Jadlam...  :o Not sure if that means they're extra special IM, Resin or quite what. Maybe they are 3D printed resin.
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

NARSES2

Quote from: Charlie_c67 on April 22, 2026, 05:26:07 PMSo, the Spitfire prototypes are going for £42 at Jadlam...  :o Not sure if that means they're extra special IM, Resin or quite what. Maybe they are 3D printed resin.

They are IM with some resin detail parts (others are available to buy separately or download and print yourself) and are superb kits when it comes to fit, like all the IBG kits I've tackled, but incredibly over complicated, in my view anyway, and full of teeny, tiny parts. You'll also need a container for the amount of unused parts supplied.

Worth it ? Subjective I know and for me personally the answer is no. That's because I just can't handle the tiny parts, but for others with better eyesight and steady hands ? Possibly.

It will be interesting to see if SAM gets an early copy to review and build.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Charlie_c67

Having seen the fun and games Kit had with their PR one I get what you mean about all the extra bits and complexity. The reason I wondered if there was something more to it is the fact they appear to be double the cost of the already issued models.
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

Beermonster58

Quote from: NARSES2 on April 23, 2026, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: Charlie_c67 on April 22, 2026, 05:26:07 PMSo, the Spitfire prototypes are going for £42 at Jadlam...  :o Not sure if that means they're extra special IM, Resin or quite what. Maybe they are 3D printed resin.

They are IM with some resin detail parts (others are available to buy separately or download and print yourself) and are superb kits when it comes to fit, like all the IBG kits I've tackled, but incredibly over complicated, in my view anyway, and full of teeny, tiny parts. You'll also need a container for the amount of unused parts supplied.

Worth it ? Subjective I know and for me personally the answer is no. That's because I just can't handle the tiny parts, but for others with better eyesight and steady hands ? Possibly.

It will be interesting to see if SAM gets an early copy to review and build.

I personally prefer 1/72 scale but, I tend to discard all teeny, tiny parts (especially those that are inside and won't be seen) and feed them to the bin monster, From that perspective, (despite good eyesight and steady hands 😂) these kits are not worth the price for me, however nice they are.
As you say though, value is subjective.
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

PR19_Kit

I'm inclined to agree that they're miles too complex and expensive for any 'normal' modelling, let alone a Whiffed one! Having said that, I just had to get the PR1C because of my 'historical' connections with that type.

What I SHOULDN'T have done was get the earlier prototype PR one, but I didn't know they were going to do the PR1C then. :(

I may sell that earlier kit now as I can't really see me putting in all that effort again.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Quote from: Charlie_c67 on April 23, 2026, 01:31:02 AMThe reason I wondered if there was something more to it is the fact they appear to be double the cost of the already issued models.

Don't quote me but I think they may be "limited edition" ? Although we all know what that means when it comes to IM kits  ;)

If you want a nice, relaxing Spitfire kit then KP are the place to go. There's a review I totally go along with in May's SAM  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Charlie_c67

Yes I have their Mk Ib, IIb and XI waiting in the stash. If they go together as well as their Mustang I should be able to swoop through them.

According to Scalemates, KP are bringing out some new Avis B-33s in five different flavours.
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

Weaver

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones