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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2017, 04:27:18 am »
Super-duper Guppy?
I 've got the 1/72 KC-97G vacform kit in my stash that I could use.

You would need a 1/48 C-97 ---- or bigger !!!!!

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2017, 06:41:16 am »
I see what you mean.
I'd need to stretch the fuselage to match the B-36.
Plan B
Two Catalina flying boats under each wing and a Grumman Gosling to make the front float-minus the engines and wings.

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2017, 02:48:18 pm »
I see what you mean.
I'd need to stretch the fuselage to match the B-36.
Plan B
Two Catalina flying boats under each wing and a Grumman Gosling to make the front float-minus the engines and wings.

What you need is to stick with the XC-99 ---- which amazingly still exists. Supposed to being restored down in the southern States somewhere
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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2017, 04:41:16 pm »
Wikipedia says that while the XC-99 is part of the NMUSAF collection it's currently 'stored' at Davis-Monthan AB because it won't suffer any further corrosion down there. But the Director of the NMUSAF has said that '......said that there would be insufficient resources for restoration for the foreseeable future....'  :-\
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2017, 09:40:46 pm »
There was a vacform conversion set but I can't find it, must of gone out of production.
I could scratch build but I think this is out of my league. :banghead:
Execuform and GMH provided a conversion set.
With the GMH set you got a 1/72 scaled drawings and photos plus templates for making wooden spars.
Several other modeling sites have tried to get the scaled drawings to scan so that their modeller can build a 1/144 scale. There were rumors of a 1/144 vacform kit but theses seem to have stayed on the drawing board.
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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2017, 12:08:18 am »
I've always wanted to build a ATL-98 Carvair, but wasn't sure of how to create the cockpit area above the fuselage.
I couldn't get hold of the vacform conversion set and tried using the Airfix Bristol type 170 superfreighter on a DC-6. Which never seemed to work. Yes there's a 1/144 kit but nothing in 1/72. I did propose this to Freightdog when Revell launched the C-54.
Meanwhile as I now have the vacform kit of the B-36  the cockpit area of the Bristol Freighter just might fit. The non-existent landing gear isn't a problem anymore as a raid in the spares box should throw up some options. No need to add propellers to the six engines. With the front of the
B-36 now cut and acting as the loading doors a loading ramp can be scratched built. The upper deck would be used to carry passengers.

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2017, 12:58:28 am »
Well, there was the real double-deck C-99 transporter...  :o


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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2017, 02:26:05 am »
AC-99 gunship? :wacko:

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 02:48:52 am »
I was reading a website today which was mostly the ravings of a paranoid convinced there was a conspiracy within the US Army, led by the Armoured Corps, to stop any development of the capability to airlift tanks into battle to support airbourne troops.
Anyway, he proposed B-36s be used to either tow tank carrying gliders (two per Peacemaker) or be modified to carry paratroopers and/or M41 Walker Bulldogs.  The tanks being carried in the bomb bays with the tracks hanging out into the slipstream.

I also found pics of a B-36 with tracked undercarriage.




https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/wait-the-b-36-peacemaker-flew-with-tank-tracks-for-lan-1638780957
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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 03:00:20 am »
Thanks,
I've got something very similar on Eric the Viking float plane.
Yes I am awear of the XC-99 being a real aircraft.

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2017, 03:01:36 am »
A gunship version could work.

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2017, 05:49:16 am »
If the Russians had got hold of one I can visualize the main wing being discarded and four wings, two at the front and two at the rear will a rotor stack on each wing.
Twin or quad fins instead of the single vertical tail fin.
Cam doors at the front and rear ends with loading ramps, a possible upper deck for troops to sit.
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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2017, 09:14:44 am »
Wikipedia says that while the XC-99 is part of the NMUSAF collection it's currently 'stored' at Davis-Monthan AB because it won't suffer any further corrosion down there. But the Director of the NMUSAF has said that '......said that there would be insufficient resources for restoration for the foreseeable future....'  :-\

Not sure if the XC-99 ever made it to the desert. I had the pleasure of seeing it and walking all around the bits on the ramp outside the restoration hanger at the air force museum a few years ago. She was broken into numerous sections for the move from Texas to Ohio. Once it was realized how massive a project it was it seems to have moved much down the priority list. The plan was to move into to the desert but I'm not sure that happened. The magnesium panels especially are a real mess. The years at Texas were very hard on her. As the wings were opened up it was fascinating to see the massive ducting to feed/cool the engines.   
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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2017, 10:40:31 am »
The Wikipedia item is written in the present tense.
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: Ideas for the B-36 Peacemaker
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2017, 11:13:02 am »
A very big parcel arrived for me today, I had a partially built Avro Vulcan to hand which gave me an idea.
 A stretched Vulcan; well the forward section of the Vulcan would fit where the lower glazing on the B-36. Fill in the gap where the B-36 canopy should go. Cut the remaining parts of the Vulcan down the seem and remove the tail fins and you have the worlds longest Vulcan. With the Vulcan wings on it doesn't look out of place.
All the other parts can be used on the vacform kit of the B-36.