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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2790 on: July 06, 2020, 07:25:06 am »
I even have a couple of the fixed undercarriage version, which might suit navalisation ?

Not really, as aircraft got heavier the incidence of spinal injuries, such as cervical vertebrae fractures, increased due to the impact of the aircraft on the decks of carriers, which was (mostly) rectified by the introduction of proper shock-absorbing oleo struts.

Yes, I know many later fixed gears had oleo struts but retracting landing gear also made ditching in the drink safer because, with the undercarriage retracted, it didn't flip the plane onto its nose or back the moment they hit the water.

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I had absolutely no idea about the spinal injuries issue, which just goes to show you can learn something new every day as long as you keep an open mind  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #2791 on: July 06, 2020, 08:08:40 am »
People keep forgetting that once aircraft got past a certain weight & speed combination a carrier deck landing became little more than a controlled crash landing. ;)

The spinal injuries weren't precisely common but there were more of them, due to the greater impact of the heavy, fast aircraft onto the deck.

Carrier aircraft landing gear wasn't/isn't just more robust than land-based landing gear, it also has a different compression profile to absorb the impact more gradually over a shorter period of time. Quite the scientific/engineering exercise, really.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2792 on: July 07, 2020, 06:16:01 am »

Carrier aircraft landing gear wasn't/isn't just more robust than land-based landing gear, it also has a different compression profile to absorb the impact more gradually over a shorter period of time. Quite the scientific/engineering exercise, really.

Not having any engineering background at all can I pick your brain, or indeed anyone else who's reading this, and ask what would be the visual difference in 1/72 scale between a standard P-36's undercarriage and a navalised ones ? Indeed would there be any visible difference ?

I've dug one of my P-36 kits out and it looks as though it could be joining the USN just in time for Midway.
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2793 on: July 07, 2020, 06:25:26 am »
Why not check out the difference between Airacobra and Airabonita main undercarriage and extrapolate from ghat?
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« Reply #2794 on: July 07, 2020, 07:11:58 am »
Why not check out the difference between Airacobra and Airabonita main undercarriage and extrapolate from ghat?

I've got built models of both as well  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #2795 on: July 07, 2020, 09:30:29 am »
You wouldn't see any visibly obvious differences
between a standard and a navalised Hawk 75  landing gear. The changes are mostly involved with the structure where the gear attach to the aircraft.
Fixed gear Hawk 75s used many of the same strut components as the retract versions and, yes, they were oleo-type shock-absorbing landing gear. 
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« Reply #2796 on: July 08, 2020, 06:31:28 am »
Thanks Jon  :thumbsup: I did have a look at a few aircraft that had been navalised and I couldn't see any obvious differences. So the conversion could well be on, but I'll want to show at least one wing folded so for me it will be quite a major job. It will go on the back burner until some things settle down a bit.

Meanwhile I got a little done on my Thunderbolt yesterday and this one is now ready to start getting her paint job. Also did a little more work on the PZL's canopy.

Now't done today as I got my first haircut in 5 months today (Lockdown  :rolleyes:) and it will probably take me a while to get over the anaesthetic  ;)
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2797 on: July 08, 2020, 09:01:11 am »

Now't done today as I got my first haircut in 5 months today (Lockdown  :rolleyes:) and it will probably take me a while to get over the anaesthetic  ;)


Did they use an Atco or a Flymo?  ;D ;)
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« Reply #2798 on: July 08, 2020, 09:36:12 am »

Now't done today as I got my first haircut in 5 months today (Lockdown  :rolleyes:) and it will probably take me a while to get over the anaesthetic  ;)


Did they use an Atco or a Flymo?  ;D ;)

And did you get three estimates first?
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Re: Narses2's Blog - or what I'm slowly making progress on
« Reply #2799 on: July 09, 2020, 05:41:59 am »

Now't done today as I got my first haircut in 5 months today (Lockdown  :rolleyes:) and it will probably take me a while to get over the anaesthetic  ;)


Did they use an Atco or a Flymo?  ;D ;)

And did you get three estimates first?

Should have got Brad C to do it.   ;D
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« Reply #2800 on: July 09, 2020, 06:05:06 am »

And did you get three estimates first?

Oddly I did check first mainly because I realised I had no cash in my wallet, haven't had to use it much lately so needed to get some out, and they hadn't put their price up which did surprise me a bit. Plus I got pensioners rate, there are some advantages  ;)

No real progress today other than sorting the Thunderbolt's armament out.
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« Reply #2801 on: July 10, 2020, 05:58:35 am »
Still really not feeling up to much modelling, hopefully I'll perk up over the weekend.

One thing that did cheer me up a little was an e-mail I received this morning telling me that recreational cricket was back on the cards from tomorrow  :thumbsup: The guy who skippered/organised our Vets team last year in the friendlies we played was letting us know that whilst the Vet's league we had joined won't be up and running again until next year (hopefully) he is hoping to organise a couple of friendlies at least for whats left of this summer.

Just need to find my whites now  ;D
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