F-11 (F11F) Tiger

[Mossie]

I added quite a few images from the book on Pg.4 & 5. I can see them, but they were added in the photo bucket days so if anyone has any issue seeing them I'll retake them.

[jcf]

Interesting idea. Totally impractical as the rear of the two missiles would be useless.

Say you have a target, select the first missile and it fires it's engine and heads off towards the target. Meanwhile, the second missiles IR seeker has bean toasted by the first missile as it started its engine and flew away. You can't drop the missile off to flay away as you have to fight against gravity to eject the missile out of the aircraft's flightpath and it's fin. It would have been far better to mount them away from the spine and separately rather than in tandem.

Why do you assume that the fwd.
missile would be the first to be used?
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[Gondor]

Interesting idea. Totally impractical as the rear of the two missiles would be useless.

Say you have a target, select the first missile and it fires it's engine and heads off towards the target. Meanwhile, the second missiles IR seeker has bean toasted by the first missile as it started its engine and flew away. You can't drop the missile off to flay away as you have to fight against gravity to eject the missile out of the aircraft's flightpath and it's fin. It would have been far better to mount them away from the spine and separately rather than in tandem.

Why do you assume that the fwd.
missile would be the first to be used?
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I was talking about the initial pictures, which did not show that they were to be on cradles that raised up.

[Mossie]

I think the greatest issue with that position would be loading. Under wing or fuselage mounted sidewinders are relatively easy as they are light enough to be lifted by several crew. Getting them up top would be more problematic.

I'm not sure how thet got them onto Jaguars overwing pylons, I assume the spine would be more difficult due to more structure being in the way.

[PR19_Kit]

This is how they do it in India, with Matra missiles. I bet the RAF do it the same way.

[Weaver]

That crane system for loading the overwing rails might be practical at an airbase, but on a carrier it'd be a whole extra piece of deck equipment to find space for and have in the right place at the right time.

IIRC the Wikipedia page for the F-11F suggests that a German version might have had an Avon engine, but there's no mention of that in the Corky Meyer book. Seems reasonable, since the J65 in the Tiger was a licence-built Sapphire and we know that the Sapphire and Avon were interchangeable.

[zenrat]

How about a swing wing varient?  The F eleven one eleven F11-111)?
 

[PR19_Kit]

How about a swing wing varient?  The F eleven one eleven F11-111)?
 

Only the Oz Navy version though. 

[Gondor]

I keep looking at Dizzy's Foland Wasp and thinking, yes, but Foland had the wing mounted above the intake trunking, and I know I don't have the kit in my stash to modify it that way.

[Mossie]

How about a swing wing varient?  The F eleven one eleven F11-111)?
 

Only the Oz Navy version though. 

In RAF service (it was offered, the exact day Sandys' white paper was announced ), 111 Sqn...

[chrisonord]

The one I built a fair few years ago, was named folland wasp too. It's in a wraparound RAF camouflage.

[jcf]

I can't get the image of the Super Tiger with the missiles on top playing the role of the Oscar EW 6996
Super Phallus Tactical Fighter Bomber in Hot Shots à Trois!, the never produced third Hot Shots! film.
As the film progressed the missiles mounted on top became ever larger and more ridiculous.*

*This is, of course, completely fictional.
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