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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread
« Reply #2325 on: February 28, 2021, 04:50:11 am »
SOKO Komete - 101st Fighter Squadron, Serbian Air Force and Air Defence, 2010

In May 1982 the government of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, led by Petar Stambolić, announced the ambitious 'Novi Avion' programme with the aim of designing and manufacturing an air superiority fighter to supplement and eventually replace the Yugoslavian Air Force's substantial MiG-21 force. SOKO (the state aircraft manufacturer) were awarded a design study contract and by 1984 their proposal had crystallized into a single-engine, supersonic fighter aircraft featuring a delta wing with a canard foreplane. The 'Novi Avion' programme seemed to mimic the Republic's move away from Communism to a market economy by becoming a much more capable multi-role aircraft and therefore more attractive to potential export customers. Whilst this did mean an unavoidable escalation in aircraft size and weight it did mean that the excellent Lyulka AL-31F engine (as used in the Sukhoi Su-27) would be a perfect match.

In May 1986 the Yugoslavian Government ordered 150 'Novi Avion' aircraft to replace both its MiG-21 and Soko J-21 Jastreb fleets and the following month saw SOKO rename the aircraft as the SOKO Kometa (Comet). Development moved smoothly during the remainder of the decade and many elements of the aircraft programme such as production facilities, mock-up, cockpit simulator, etc. had been constructed. However the start of the new decade saw the political situation in Yugoslavia worsen and by 1991 Yugoslavia had begun to disintegrate into several smaller nations. Putting a brave face on the situation, SOKO announced a postponement of the programme but also an intent to continue "as soon as possible". Production facilities were partially dismantled and relocated to Serbia with SOKO absorbing Utva Aviation Industry (based in Pančevo) who had previously worked with SOKO in the manufacturing of the J-22 Orao and also the G-4 Super Galeb.

On April 28th, 1992 the two remaining republics of Yugoslavia, Serbia and Montenegro, formed the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and President Dobrica Ćosić wasted no time in re-launching the Kometa programme. Behind the scenes, SOKO were instructed to simplify certain aspects of the Kometa which included reducing the number of weapon stations from 11 down to 7 by eliminating the four body pylons. The UN economic sanctions imposed on the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia were bypassed largely by switching to Chinese avionics. SOKO worked miracles in assembling the first Kometa prototype during 1997 although the first flight would have to wait until May 1st, 1998 when Major General Dragan Mihajlović lifted off from Batajnica Air Base. In 2003 the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia became officially known as the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro but by 2006 Montenegro left the union following a referendum leading to the full independence of Serbia and Montenegro. This political instability slowed the programme even further and it was not until June 5th, 2006 that the Kometa entered service with the 101st Squadron of the Serbian Air Force.

SERBIA KOMETA.12 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

SERBIA KOMETA.13 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

SERBIA KOMETA.14 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

SERBIA KOMETA.15 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

This is the Chengdu J-10A 'Vigorous Dragon' (sounds like a Viagra knock-off to me) masquerading as the Novi Avion a real world project that died the death when Yugoslavia disintegrated in the early 1990's. Some images of the Novi Avion show a Eurofighter Typhoon style intake whilst most show something resembling a single-engine Dassault Rafale. The J-10 is only slightly longer than the Novi Avion but is much heavier hence my backstory of a bigger aircraft essentially due to mission creep. Given the political situation there's absolutely no way this could ever have happened (I haven't even mentioned the hyperinflation in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia of 2% per hour and 116.546 billion percent per year) but I quite enjoyed weaving a few elements of the real world into this backstory.

It won't surprise you to know that the 3D model originates from China but I removed the bolt-on refuelling probe and the weapon stations referred to in my backstory. The nose numbers take ages to do and I might re-use all of the decals on something else in Serbian colours.

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2326 on: February 28, 2021, 06:13:39 am »
Particularly like the muted Yugoslav "roundel"  :thumbsup:
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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2327 on: February 28, 2021, 07:25:19 am »
That looks really great!

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2328 on: February 28, 2021, 08:10:33 am »
Nice!

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2329 on: February 28, 2021, 11:21:44 pm »
That's nice.  :thumbsup: Neighbor Albania could be another suitable operator?

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2330 on: February 28, 2021, 11:31:46 pm »
That's nice.  :thumbsup: Neighbor Albania could be another suitable operator?

I've gone for Montenegro. Just 9 aircraft as part of the 'split' settlement.

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2331 on: Yesterday at 01:32:40 am »
I have the two seater version of the J-10 in my stash which I have been thinking of doing as a Lavi replacement

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2332 on: Yesterday at 01:54:42 am »
I have the two seater version of the J-10 in my stash which I have been thinking of doing as a Lavi replacement

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Quite appropriate as many folk reckon that the J-10 designers took a keen interest in the Lavi programme. A very keen interest if you know what I mean ; )

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2333 on: Yesterday at 02:14:00 am »
Very  nice.  I built one a few years ago and put it in Argentine markings  and put 2 exocet missiles  on it, just to  ruffle a few more feathers.  Something that could have happened  if a trade agreement with China went through  I suppose.
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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2334 on: Yesterday at 03:02:14 am »
I have the two seater version of the J-10 in my stash which I have been thinking of doing as a Lavi replacement

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I have s single-seater somewhere with similar plans.  ;)

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2335 on: Yesterday at 03:35:20 am »
I have the two seater version of the J-10 in my stash which I have been thinking of doing as a Lavi replacement

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Quite appropriate as many folk reckon that the J-10 designers took a keen interest in the Lavi programme. A very keen interest if you know what I mean ; )

An interesting tit bit of information is that Israli defence companies furnished the radar and some other systems used in the KJ-2000 AEW aircraft.

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Serbian Kometa's
« Reply #2336 on: Yesterday at 04:32:19 am »
Israel also provided China with AA missiles (Python), which were promptly reverse-engineered as the PL-8 AAM...

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread
« Reply #2337 on: Yesterday at 09:04:34 am »
SOKO Komete - 241st Fighter Squadron, Serbian Air Force and Air Defence, 2016

SERBIA KOMETA.17 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

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When looking through the archives at Combat Ace I found no less than FIVE J-10's all by the Chinese Insky Group. They're all essentially the same but represent their gradual refinement of the 3D model and I think this is the best one of all but even this one is from 2009. It's mapped completely differently though and I'll have to change my backstory as it has all four body pylons whereas the other 3D model only had the front two.

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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread
« Reply #2338 on: Today at 04:43:45 am »
SOKO Kometa - Montenegrin Air Force, 2010

Following the dissolution of the state union of Serbia and Montenegro in 2006 the newly formed Republic of Montenegro was allocated 12 SOKO Kometa aircraft in settlement of their share of development and production costs for the years covering the brief union between the two nations.

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MONTENEGRO KOMETA.06 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

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MONTENEGRO KOMETA.04 by Spinners1961, on Flickr

This represents the markings used by the Montenegrin Air Force between 2006 and 2018 after which they switched to a rather ugly 'starbar' type roundel.
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Re: Spinners' Strike Fighters Thread - Montenegrin Kometa's
« Reply #2339 on: Today at 05:28:28 am »
Very nice  :thumbsup:
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