Top Gun Sequel.

[Spey_Phantom]

a sequel to top gun, leets ee now,
.............."TOP DRONE"  

or "TOP GUN 2: Return of the tomcat"  :ar:  

[tc2324]

Hi all, forget Top Gun 2. Couldn`t get the F-14`s anyway unless you have a secret contact within Iran...........?  

I think the best wat to go is to do a bio pic of the Late Robin Olds. Lets face it, in the same movie you would get P-38`s, P-51`s, F-86`s and then F-4`s. All these types are around and It would span from WW2 to Vietnam.

Now, thats a story......!

 

[Shasper]

Sadley though,I think any Top Gun sequal today would go the way of "Stealth",although,it could be argued that the orginal was the "stealth" of its day.Mindless,inaccuate entertainment.

Well the plot does suck, but the flying was Kilo Alpha  


Shas B)

[Maverick]

Many movies with a military flavour are mindless, inaccurate entertainment, but then again I think that's the plan.  To satisfy the masses as opposed to providing entertainment for those people with any real knowledge.  I know that pretty much all of the Westerns with their clean cut heroes who were chivalrous and cavalier was as much of a pipe dream.

Both 'Top Gun' and 'Stealth' certainly had some major bonehead mistakes from an accuracy point of view.  The flat spin that killed Goose is just the thing that two engines mounted side by side is designed to avoid (ie: asymetric thrust) and as a further giggle after it's release, the recruiting for the AIR FORCE went through the roof.

Mav

[famvburg]

Many movies with a military flavour are mindless, inaccurate entertainment, but then again I think that's the plan.  To satisfy the masses as opposed to providing entertainment for those people with any real knowledge.  I know that pretty much all of the Westerns with their clean cut heroes who were chivalrous and cavalier was as much of a pipe dream.

Both 'Top Gun' and 'Stealth' certainly had some major bonehead mistakes from an accuracy point of view.  The flat spin that killed Goose is just the thing that two engines mounted side by side is designed to avoid (ie: asymetric thrust) and as a further giggle after it's release, the recruiting for the AIR FORCE went through the roof.

Mav

     Side by side engines is a benefit, except when they're spaced apart. While it may or may not have been 100% realistic, assymetric thrust is an issue, unless the engines are truly side by side, such as a T-38/F-5, etc. Also, the amount of thrust is a factor as well.  

[elmayerle]

Many movies with a military flavour are mindless, inaccurate entertainment, but then again I think that's the plan.  To satisfy the masses as opposed to providing entertainment for those people with any real knowledge.  I know that pretty much all of the Westerns with their clean cut heroes who were chivalrous and cavalier was as much of a pipe dream.

Both 'Top Gun' and 'Stealth' certainly had some major bonehead mistakes from an accuracy point of view.  The flat spin that killed Goose is just the thing that two engines mounted side by side is designed to avoid (ie: asymetric thrust) and as a further giggle after it's release, the recruiting for the AIR FORCE went through the roof.

As I recall, the TF30-powered Tomcat is susceptible to just that problem given teh TF30's propensity for flaming out at inopportune times (I won't say it's P&W's worst engine, but IMHO it's definitely up there).

[Shasper]

Ev's right, the early 'Cats were prone to that. The F110 cured that though



Shas B)

[Maverick]

I was aware the Turkey had its troubles early on (a pilot got killed IIRC), but I thought they'd cured it by the time it went operational.  As a question tho, given the similar engine layout of the Flanker and Fulcrum, would they be as susceptible to the asymetric thrust issue (which I quite honestly thought wouldn't have occured with Tomcats)?  I know their engine management systems would probably be a lot better, but if the situation occured could that same incident happen along with it?

[Hobbes]

Flankers and Fulcrums would be susceptible to asymmetric thrust, but you're right, their engines are designed to resist stalling (maneuvers like the tailslide, with no airflow into the engine, would be impossible otherwise).

[Archibald]

Ev's right, the early 'Cats were prone to that. The F110 cured that though



Shas B)

But alas it came too late, and only a handfull of Tomcat benefited from it...  
The Iranians had their share of problems with the TF-30, too. They lost three aircraft and a pilot in flameouts accidents...
Scrap the TF-30 in 1969, replace it by an afterburning A-7 engine (hmmm... a Spey Tomcat...   ). Or by its french SNECMA TF-306E variant, more powerfull and less stall-prone...  
Then switch to the F-110 in the lid-80's...  

Goose was actor Anthony Edwards, later Mark Greene in ER (I was surprised when I first saw Top Gun...)  

[Lord Darth Beavis]

I was appalled when I watched ER--this was the same actor that played Mother Goose.  Somebody castrate him, or something?  

[Spey_Phantom]

if you think that was shocking, he also played brains in the thunderbirds movie (he really overdid the stutttering, the real brains was able to complete a sentence   )

[nev]

The flat spin that killed Goose is just the thing that two engines mounted side by side is designed to avoid (ie: asymetric thrust)

This has been discussed ad nauseum on ARC.  Apparantly on the DVD Special Release, during the "making of" documentary they talk about how they got the idea for the flat spin from an actual F-14 accident.

[Shasper]

Like I said, it really did happen. The TF-30s were not happy when the airflow got screwed up, causing the compressor stall. During DS1 the A models really had it bad 'cause of the density altitude conditions in the middle east (Hot n High).

Getting back on track here, I want to eventualy do a F-14D in jazzed-up lowviz mkgs from both "squadrons".



Shas B)

[Son of Damian]

have Penelope Cruz as a Venezuela Su-30MKV pilot,maybe throw in Salma Hayek as her WSO.

Meeoooow!!!