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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #135 on: May 01, 2019, 06:16:08 am »
To reach Very High Performances, the Mirage layout had to be changed, into twin-boom:
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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #136 on: May 11, 2019, 06:50:04 pm »
Two weeks ago, I wrote a what-if History of "Who broke the sound barrier?", my 2 personal theories being a Mirage or an asymmetric Mirage. It is in French, sorry, at http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/murSon.htm
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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #137 on: June 01, 2019, 04:35:22 am »
In the Dassault design bureau, there was a big jealousy: "Why the British engineers found before us how to have a twin-jet without asymmetry on a single engine" (if one fails or is shut down in cruise to increase range). So Mirages were modified to be (almost) as good (without paying Copyright): :angry: :-\ :unsure:
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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #138 on: June 02, 2019, 02:23:29 pm »
Tophe,

there was actually a real project to install an afterburning Viper turbojet in its own pod on top of the Mirage III rear fuselage for Australia, see https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/unbuilt-prototype-mirages-1955-1980.837/page-6#post-177848.

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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #139 on: June 02, 2019, 08:35:43 pm »
Thanks Martin!
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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #140 on: June 07, 2019, 11:08:49 pm »
Seeing the (technical) success of the B-58 Hustler, Dassault Industries argued: "this is an illegal copy of our own Mirage 558: of course we thought of such a multi-engine Mirage, not falling down from the sky if the jet fails!"
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Re: Mirage III, Mirage V, Nesher, Dagger, and Kfir
« Reply #141 on: June 10, 2019, 10:41:23 am »
Thanks to Scotaidh's topic https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=46590.0 (about EE Lightnings), here are modified Mirages:
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