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Graf Zeplin Bf-109T possible paint Schemes: what would be the options

Started by Stan in YUL, September 16, 2025, 04:39:37 PM

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Stan in YUL

What would Mediterranean deployment bf109T look like? 

I am trying to get some ideas for carrier based Luft46.

Thanks in advance

jcf

Probably similar to the blues and greys of the late war air defense Me 109G and K, with slightly brighter blues with greenish overtones on the topside. A rigid splinter would be unlikely. The underside would likely trend towards a very light, almost white, grey with maybe a very slight blueish tint. Counter intuitively trying to hide an aircraft against a blue sky by painting the underside blue makes it more visible.

Mossie

There was a book called Tragerflotten by John Baxter which detailed a hypothetical Kriegsmarine air arm including possible colour schemes. It's out of print, but some of the art can be seen on the Secret Projects forum. If you're not a member, do a Google image search on the name and some of the artwork will come up
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/were-there-any-other-candidates-to-the-german-kriegsmarine-carrier-based-aircraft.36976/


Dizzyfugu

Late war would be difficult to tell. Since the 109T was a dedicated carrier aircraft one can assume that they carried earlier on a scheme in RLM 72/73/65 with a low waterline, but after the grey tones had been introduced anything is speculative - but RLM 74/75/76 would be plausible. Maybe there had been measures to modify that base, though, with wiggly lines of RLM 76 from above?

Stan in YUL

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on October 09, 2025, 11:31:17 PMLate war would be difficult to tell. Since the 109T was a dedicated carrier aircraft one can assume that they carried earlier on a scheme in RLM 72/73/65 with a low waterline, but after the grey tones had been introduced anything is speculative - but RLM 74/75/76 would be plausible. Maybe there had been measures to modify that base, though, with wiggly lines of RLM from above?
bang on  :thumbsup:

jcf

Quote from: Mossie on October 09, 2025, 01:24:49 PMThere was a book called Tragerflotten by John Baxter which detailed a hypothetical Kriegsmarine air arm including possible colour schemes. It's out of print, but some of the art can be seen on the Secret Projects forum. If you're not a member, do a Google image search on the name and some of the artwork will come up
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/were-there-any-other-candidates-to-the-german-kriegsmarine-carrier-based-aircraft.36976/
The notion of the He 100 as a carrier based aircraft is hilarious.
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It was so complicated and fiddly, the design made it difficult to maintain, that the Luftwaffe didn't want it as a land based fighter. It'd be a nightmare at sea.