Monitors

[Steel Penguin]

wouldant a "lizard monitor" come round an count how meny are left after class has finished?

[tigercat]

Shouldn't that be the Commando Dragon

[jcf]

1967 proposals for Fire Support Ships with triple 16"/50 turrets. The caption is a bit confusing,
and the drawings are not to scale with each other.

The first few sentences refer to the the topmost profile, the rest to the ship in plan and profile.
The ship in the profile only was to be 440' long at the WL, 40' shorter than the other, but in
the drawing it's larger.
 
 
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[perttime]

You could see the monitor as a predesessor of the later coastal defence ships (sometimes called coastal battleships or coast defence ships): "often cruiser-sized warships that sacrificed speed and range for armour and armament. They were usually attractive to nations that either could not afford full-sized battleships or could be satisfied by specially designed shallow-draft vessels capable of littoral operations".

Finland had two such ships: Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen, launched in 1931 and 1932. The Finnish designation was "panssarilaiva", or "armoured ship". Both were used during the Winter War and Continuation War. The Ilmarinen was sunk by mines on 13 September 1941 while the Väinämöinen was handed over to the Soviet Baltic Fleet as war reparations on 29 May 1947.

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[Joe CalPo]

1967 proposals for Fire Support Ships with triple 16"/50 turrets. The caption is a bit confusing,
and the drawings are not to scale with each other.

The first few sentences refer to the the topmost profile, the rest to the ship in plan and profile.
The ship in the profile only was to be 440' long at the WL, 40' shorter than the other, but in
the drawing it's larger.

 
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I've a bunch of spare 16" triples and smaller guns. Skip the mount forward, two 5" aft and a helo deck. Maybe two 3" twins for AA. See what else is in the spares box, carve a hull out of balsa.

[Weaver]

As pointed out earlier, the Littoral Combat Ship concept is almost a direct descendent.  Designed for inshore, shallow waters and with a lot of launchers as a replacement for big guns.

Pity they didn't call them monitors, at least we mere mortals might have understood what the devil they were for then......

Most mere mortals these days think a monitor is the thing they're sitting in front of looking at.

[PR19_Kit]

Most mere mortals these days think a monitor is the thing they're sitting in front of looking at.

Or their laptops............... 

[jcf]

You could see the monitor as a predesessor of the later coastal defence ships (sometimes called coastal battleships or coast defence ships): "often cruiser-sized warships that sacrificed speed and range for armour and armament. They were usually attractive to nations that either could not afford full-sized battleships or could be satisfied by specially designed shallow-draft vessels capable of littoral operations".

Finland had two such ships: Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen, launched in 1931 and 1932. The Finnish designation was "panssarilaiva", or "armoured ship". Both were used during the Winter War and Continuation War. The Ilmarinen was sunk by mines on 13 September 1941 while the Väinämöinen was handed over to the Soviet Baltic Fleet as war reparations on 29 May 1947.

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Reciprocal monitor.

[jcf]

What If the Hall Brothers Marine Railway and Shipbuilding Co. had designed and built a monitor
and it was used to patrol the entrance to Puget Sound. Would ships entering the Sound require
a Hall Pass?
🤔

[Rick Lowe]

Argh... 

[Old Wombat]

[Joe CalPo]

Sigh.  Sending you down the hall to the headmaster's office, or the principal depending, for trying to pass off that joke, which wasn't very sound.

On the original subject, and also discussing this on the Secret Projects site, here's the initial gathered parts for my 1970s US monitor/gunfire support ship.
Balso for the hull and superstructure with an overlay of sheet styrene smoothness and overhangs.

I have an 8" barrel and am trying to find the dimensions of the mount.  It's a simple shape once I know how big it is.
Still debating the forward 5".
Considering AA options - none, 3" twins, or something more in line with this wacky bunch, though still a real-world system that could have been used.

[scooter]

I have an 8" barrel and am trying to find the dimensions of the mount.  It's a simple shape once I know how big it is.

Contact Naval Surface Warfare Center?  According to Wiki, the Mk 71 mount is there

[jcf]

I have an 8" barrel and am trying to find the dimensions of the mount.  It's a simple shape once I know how big it is.

Mk. 71 dimensioned, component and installation diagrams on NAVWEAPS.

8"/55 Mk. 71

[Joe CalPo]

Thanks! I also posted on the Secret Projects UK site and gained some other information.
I'll post the project as I progress.