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Racing Plane Whiffer On Hs

Started by The Rat, November 28, 2007, 04:10:05 PM

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The Rat

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

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Shasper

Looks like the Nazi wing on steroids!

Shas B)
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Madoc

Folks,

I dunno.

I mean, hell, just look at the thing!

He obviously got the prop manufacturer's decals on backwards (just look at how the text on the decals is oriented in comparison to the direction of the blade's rotation) and then there's the obvious misplacement of the pilot's rear view mirrors within the cockpit canopy forward frame.  Their size and shape is just entirely wrong.  Obviously.  And then there's the circumference and cross section of the exhaust stacks.  I mean, no more need be said about those...

:rolleyes:

Seriously though, that's a sweet lookin' bit of building there!  Nicely done and a pleasure to see.

Madoc
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elmayerle

How about an air racing version of the Me-329?
"Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it."
--Jane Wagner and Lily Tomlin

jcf

QuoteHow about an air racing version of the Me-329?
Or do a Lippisch Li P 10 conversion from an Me 410 and make an air racer:


Jon

elmayerle

Ah, a Me-265, then.  I went with the Me-329 'cause it looked to have the smaller wing area and span.  Either would probably be good.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it."
--Jane Wagner and Lily Tomlin

Madoc

Evan & all,

Now there'd be an interesting Whiff group build - Cleveland Air Races, Unlimited Class, circa 1947.  These with the distinction of them being truly unlimited.  In OTL the guys running the big air races in the US were pretty strident in refusing to permit any Axis planes into the competition.  That put the kibosh on one guy's plans to fly the Me-262 he'd picked up.

Now, in this ATL, let's make things different.  Kinda like the "1949 Schneider Trophy Race" group build from a coupla years back.  I suppose you could tie it into the "Piston Perfection" effort but also open it up to jets as well.  Anything and everything which coulda been in the air circa 46/47 would seem fair game - so long as they're in civilian garb.

Lotsa possibilities here!

Madoc
Wherever you go, there you are!

jcf

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QuoteEvan & all,

Now there'd be an interesting Whiff group build - Cleveland Air Races, Unlimited Class, circa 1947.  These with the distinction of them being truly unlimited.  In OTL the guys running the big air races in the US were pretty strident in refusing to permit any Axis planes into the competition.  That put the kibosh on one guy's plans to fly the Me-262 he'd picked up.

Now, in this ATL, let's make things different.  Kinda like the "1949 Schneider Trophy Race" group build from a coupla years back.  I suppose you could tie it into the "Piston Perfection" effort but also open it up to jets as well.  Anything and everything which coulda been in the air circa 46/47 would seem fair game - so long as they're in civilian garb.

Lotsa possibilities here!

Madoc
The one guy with the 262 racer was Howard Hughes, supposedly Hap Arnold but the kibosh on his project. Whether this was truly because of fears of the 262 beating the F-80 or simply a matter of Hughes being detested is an open question. Anyhow, Hughes main interest was in the Bendix Trophy cross-country race, rather than the Thompson. Hughes had been seriously injured in the crash of the XF-11 on July 7, 1946 so its debatable whether he would have been able to compete in the races.

The 1946 and 1947 Thompson Trophy jet races, the jet race had been added in 1946 as a separate class,  were between F-80s, no race in 1948, 1949 was between three F-86.
While the pilots did push the aircraft the jet 'races' were really more in the line of military exhibition flights.

I've not read anywhere that 'Axis' aircraft were banned in the short-lived post-war Thompson races, the bigger problem would have been, where did one get an Axis plane?. In 1946 the captured aircraft were all government property. The lack of foreign competitors has more to do with the shameful treatment accorded to the Caudron team after their dramatic win of the 1936 Thompson race.

The last Thompson Trophy race was held in 1949 bringing to an end to the Cleveland National Air Races.

Cheers, Jon

p.s. I've had an all-red Scuderia Ferrari operated Re.2005 post-war racer under way for a while and I'm planning an Arsenal VG.39 in French blue. :)

braincells37

QuoteEvan & all,

Now there'd be an interesting Whiff group build - Cleveland Air Races, Unlimited Class, circa 1947. 
Lotsa possibilities here!

Madoc
I've already started mine - the Dragon Ta-154 in 48th scale. I glued the canopy on last night and it's nearly ready for primer.  I started it about a week or 2 ago.  Lotsa yellow. With flames. Something along the lines of the Sea Fury racer Miss Merced.
It will be race number 17.
The Moskito was one of the A-O series pre production aircraft that was found "in a damaged state". Somehow it was secreted out of Germany along with a truckload of brand new Jumo engines.  The damage was repaired and issues with the German glue problems were resolved. Quite a bit of the airframe was reskinned, fortunately by a former employee of DeHavilland, who had experience working on the Mosquito.
Now that the backstory is nearly complete, I just have to paint the model...
Terry   :wacko:  :wacko:  
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jcf


GTX

Is it just me or does that look seriously like Batman is into racing?

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

mwf4nut

By 1947, someone could have worked out the cooling problem on the rear engine of a Do335.  That would look pretty awesome in a gloss yellow scheme of some kind!
Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies simply because they become fashion.  G.K. Chesterton

GTX

QuoteThat would look pretty awesome in a gloss yellow scheme of some kind!

I'm actually thinking of all over gloss black!

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

jcf

Quote
QuoteThat would look pretty awesome in a gloss yellow scheme of some kind!

I'm actually thinking of all over gloss black!

Regards,

Greg
I did a post-war racer with the Tamiya 335 a few years back (long gone now due to an accidental smashup) in overall Tamiya aluminum lacquer buffed with SNJ powder.

A Silber Pfiel. :)

In the back story the pilot was one Rudi Stuck, a distant relation of Auto Union driver Hans Stuck.
I did up the Tamiya pilot figure in white overalls and flying helmet.
The special registration was D-O335, I was going to give it the race number 9 but it was destroyed before I had made the decals.
The 9 was a reference to the Gottingen Go 9 proof of concept aircraft.
Sponsorship marks were only  Daimler-Benz emblems on the engine cowls and small Bosch logos, for the sparkplugs.

I need to build it again.

Cheers, Jon

The Rat

QuoteI'm actually thinking of all over gloss black!

Regards,

Greg
A John Player Special scheme would be cool! (And this comes from a confirmed anti-smoker ^_^ )

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr