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MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« on: February 11, 2017, 02:26:39 am »
Along the Tu-32P "Farmhand" I'm working on two other projects for the Soviet GB: the MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and the Su-15MP "Mantra". The Tu-32 is simply getting too big (about 47 cm in length..) so I've put it in the spray cabin and procede there.

Now the MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" is conceived as a heavy strike variant of the MiG-25 seen in the picture on the upper side. Wings are from CF-105 and fit surprisingly well to it. Wing will be clipped just a bit to get the same chord on the wingtips as the original MiG-25.
In the lower side you'll see the Su-15 MP "Mantra", conceived as a successor of the Yak-28PP in the Wild Weasel role. It incorporates some early stealth technologies for a better blended intake and exhaust. 1/48 Su-15 wing is raised and moved slightly forward to shoulder winged and will be lerx-ed (you know what I mean) into the upper intake. Intakes will look like the ones on the F-35/ F-18G. Tail assembly will eventually look similar to the Su-47 but with 4 canted tailplanes. Can't be shown yet...
IMG_20170211_102235859 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

IMG_20170211_102301722 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

Somehow the MiG-25-with-CF105 wing reminds me of an early Vulcan....but smaller in size.
Anybody have suggestions on how to get a smaller RCS on a Su-15?

Comments are welcome!

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 03:08:22 am »
Cool bananas Dave.
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I thought the Yak 28PP was an ECM aircraft.  Did it also carry out the offensive role in WW missions?
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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 03:26:35 am »
Thanks Fred!

"bout the Yak-28PP: Yes, it is an ECM plane, designed to accompany attack aircraft as they penetrated hostile airspace, using its jammers and chaff rockets to protect the strike package.

From Airvectors.net:
[7] YAK-28PP BREWER-E / BREWER IN SERVICE

* In the mid-1960s, one Yak-28L was converted to a "defense suppression" -- or, as the Americans would say, "Wild Weasel" -- configuration, fitted for carriage of two Kh-28 (NATO AS-9 Kyle) anti-radar missiles in place of the wing tanks, with the bombing system replaced by a radar homing and warning system (RHAWS) to target radars. This machine was designated "Yak-28N", where "N" stood for "Nositel (Carrier)", meaning "missile carrier". The conclusion of the exercise was that a more modern machine was needed for the tough defense suppression mission, and the Mikoyan MiG-25BM "Foxbat-F" was obtained for that role instead.

In roughly the same timeframe, another Yak-28I was modified as a radar reconnaissance machine, carrying a "Bulat (Damask Steel)" side-looking airborne radar (SLAR) in the bombbay, with the SLAR antenna deployed out of the bombbay when observations were to be made. This machine was redesignated "Yak-28BI". It also was not adopted for service.

However, an electronic countermeasures variant, the "Yak-28PP", where "PP" stood for "Postanovschshik Pomekh (Countermeasures Aircraft)", did go into service. The Yak-28PP was developed in the late 1960s and entered production in 1970. It was something of a hybrid, with the cockpit and canopy of the Yak-28R, but the nose glazing of the Yak-28L; exactly why a countermeasures aircraft needed nose glazing is an interesting little question.

The Yak-28PP was fitted with the uprated R-11AF2-300 engines, and was crammed full of countermeasures gear, leading to a clutter of antenna fairings over the fuselage. The Yak-28PP was unarmed, but it could carry a pod of 57-millimeter rockets on each outer wing, with the rockets carrying warheads full of chaff to blind adversary radars; the aircraft was also fitted with chaff-flare dispensers for self-defense. The Yak-28PP was designed to accompany attack aircraft as they penetrated hostile airspace, using its jammers and chaff rockets to protect the strike package. Total production of the Yak-28PP is unclear.

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 03:54:31 am »
So it didn't actively strike but provided ECM support.
OK, got it.
Thanks.
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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 03:57:14 am »
Love where this is going, those 2 look great! :thumbsup:
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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 10:49:01 am »
Good beginning indeed!!! :thumbsup:
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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 11:19:59 am »
Watching the delta MiG with interest...I'm at an impasse. Both projects should be fantastic :thumbsup:.

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 12:34:51 pm »
Hope to make good progress tomorrow on both.....and the TU-32. The Boss took a lot off time....and I got quite behind schedule....

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2017, 01:50:53 pm »
Hard to pick a winner out of those two....they both look great !

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PS-One might have a nicer wing  :thumbsup:
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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 05:20:48 am »
Update time:

PSR is almost over....time to get polishing.

IMG_20170303_130957557 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

The Su-15MP as it is today: I use black enamel as very thin putty to smooth small holes and scratches.
IMG_20170303_103352190 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr
IMG_20170303_103338493 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr
IMG_20170303_103319831 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

And made saddle tanks for the MiG-25: Started by drawing the outline of the tanks on the fuselage.
IMG_20170303_103239551 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr
IMG_20170303_104747377_HDR by David Dunnebier, on Flickr
IMG_20170303_104803451_HDR by David Dunnebier, on Flickr
IMG_20170303_113033816 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

Comparison between the MiG-25 saddle tanks (middle) and the ones on a F-15E (below). On the upper is the MiG-15 centerline tank, a converted 1/48 F-100 tank
IMG_20170303_110052995 by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

The CF-105 wings fit perfect on the MiG-25 only a little putty was needed
IMG_20170303_103256402_HDR by David Dunnebier, on Flickr

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 05:26:40 am »
I like the modified MiG-25 a lot!

And the 1:48 Su-15 is truly a HUGE beast...!

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 08:55:47 am »
Da, comrade!!  :thumbsup:
Can't choose a favorite, they're all looking great... The Ferret's tails sure look right on the Su-15, their size is adequate for such a large beast, not for the tiny Ferret. And the CFT's for the Mig-25 are a very good idea too, very nice work.

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 10:49:30 am »
Amazing how well the Arrow's wings suit the Foxbat, they really look the part.  :thumbsup:
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 02:59:09 pm »
Beautiful beasts all 3!
And thanks for the paint-as-putty tip. I have lots of old or older Humbrol tins, not suitable anymore for airbrush.  :thumbsup:
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Re: MiG-25 "Foxbat-G" and Su-15MP "Mantra"
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2017, 07:41:57 pm »
Oh yeah....keeps getting better ! Love the wing shape on that MP>

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