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Title: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: zenrat on September 10, 2019, 03:25:42 am
In response to Maxmwill's desire for less belligerency I am adding to Frankston Sky Cabs' fleet.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48710699891_1eeefb189c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hdp52i)Skyraider Sky Cab 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2hdp52i) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48710700006_f7b98aa206_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hdp54h)Skyraider Sky Cab 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2hdp54h) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Passenger capacity will be seven.  Six on bench seats in the back and one riding shotgun.  Access via a door on the port side aft of the trailing edge.  Luggage stowage in the rear fuselage.
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Post by: Dizzyfugu on September 10, 2019, 05:57:09 am
Looking forward to this. Have a similar idea (bush plane, including some radical changes) on my project list, too.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: zenrat on September 10, 2019, 06:21:41 am
The cockpit is horrible on this.  In the second pic it is sat in place correctly but look at that huge step between the top of the tub and the coaming - awful.
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Post by: chrisonord on September 10, 2019, 07:20:37 am
What scale is it Fred?
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Post by: loupgarou on September 10, 2019, 07:44:51 am
Looking forward to this. Have a similar idea (bush plane, including some radical changes) on my project list, too.  :thumbsup:

Fixed landing gear, with spats?  :wub:
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Post by: kerick on September 10, 2019, 08:03:05 am
Looks like the old 1/72nd scale antique kit. I have one from a very long time ago Iím considering stripping down and putting it on floats. This is great inspiration!
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Post by: PR19_Kit on September 10, 2019, 08:10:25 am
I always liked that kit, I've still got an unbuilt one somewhere too.
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Post by: scooter on September 10, 2019, 12:24:27 pm
I've built it as well, and it is pretty ancient and gappy.

So...floats or spats?
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Post by: kitnut617 on September 10, 2019, 02:16:24 pm
The cockpit is horrible on this.  In the second pic it is sat in place correctly but look at that huge step between the top of the tub and the coaming - awful.

There was a very nice resin cockpit set on the market made by Cobra Company, got two of them for the pair of AD-5s I have. Now part of Lone Star Models but OOP at the moment but might be available on eBay (not looked myself though)
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Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 10, 2019, 02:40:10 pm
Great minds an all that kinda stuff.  :thumbsup:
I've had the old Matchbox 1/48 A-1E set aside for a similar build
inspired by the A-17A based Douglas DT-202.

(http://photos.smugmug.com/OLDPB/i-GL4C3Bd/0/abc931a0/X2/DT202_01-X2.jpg)
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Post by: zenrat on September 11, 2019, 02:07:12 am
What scale is it Fred?

If you have to ask then I must be slipping.
It's the ONE TRUE SCALE of course.  1/72.
 ;D

DT 202 looks great Jon.  I think i might start from a different point through.  Like a Northrop Nomad.
(http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/assets/AIRFORCE_Internet/images/news-nouvelles/2016/03/bcatp-nomad-aircraft-mar-a-17a.jpg)

Kit, a resin cockpit would be nice but i've already started to butcher modify the kit one and will scratch up some filler pieces and add greebles.
As it comes there is a huge gap between the top of the rear of the cockpit tub and the fuselage.  Its almost like they cam from different kits.  Last time I saw such poor parts fit was the AMT '70 Super Bee which mated an AMT chassis to an MPC body and had you saw part of the windscreen off to get it them to fit.  Or the MPM 1/72 Me 262 which has you cut part of the wing centre section off (and gives you incorrect measurements in the instructions).

I've built it as well, and it is pretty ancient and gappy.

So...floats or spats?

Skyraiders are pretty heavy and need some serious floatage to keep them above water (see here for an example which I now think doesn't have enough (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=38370.0)) and I do have a set of Stuka undercarriage somewhere.  However, this one may keep its usual legs.
We'll see.
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Post by: Old Wombat on September 11, 2019, 07:40:29 am
Gads! Love the camo on that floaty Spad! :wub:
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Post by: chrisonord on September 11, 2019, 07:53:54 am
What scale is it Fred?

If you have to ask then I must be slipping.
It's the ONE TRUE SCALE of course.  1/72.
 ;D

DT 202 looks great Jon.  I think i might start from a different point through.  Like a Northrop Nomad.
(http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/assets/AIRFORCE_Internet/images/news-nouvelles/2016/03/bcatp-nomad-aircraft-mar-a-17a.jpg)

Kit, a resin cockpit would be nice but i've already started to butcher modify the kit one and will scratch up some filler pieces and add greebles.
As it comes there is a huge gap between the top of the rear of the cockpit tub and the fuselage.  Its almost like they cam from different kits.  Last time I saw such poor parts fit was the AMT '70 Super Bee which mated an AMT chassis to an MPC body and had you saw part of the windscreen off to get it them to fit.  Or the MPM 1/72 Me 262 which has you cut part of the wing centre section off (and gives you incorrect measurements in the instructions).

I've built it as well, and it is pretty ancient and gappy.

So...floats or spats?

Skyraiders are pretty heavy and need some serious floatage to keep them above water (see here for an example which I now think doesn't have enough (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=38370.0)) and I do have a set of Stuka undercarriage somewhere.  However, this one may keep its usual legs.
We'll see.
Marvellous,  I  have  done  a revell  version of this,  and have another in the stash. I like  them.
Chris.
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Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 11, 2019, 09:31:10 am
DT 202 looks great Jon.  I think i might start from a different point through.  Like a Northrop Nomad.

A-17 = Nomad = Northrop Model 8.
The Northrop Corporation that made the Nomad was a division of Douglas and the
Model 8 design became the Douglas 8A after the Northrop division was closed and
reformed as the El Segundo Division of Douglas Aircraft in 1937.
Thus the later derivate concepts of the Model 8 received Douglas designations,
DT = Douglas Transport.
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Post by: zenrat on September 12, 2019, 03:36:30 am
DT 202 looks great Jon.  I think i might start from a different point through.  Like a Northrop Nomad.

A-17 = Nomad = Northrop Model 8.
The Northrop Corporation that made the Nomad was a division of Douglas and the
Model 8 design became the Douglas 8A after the Northrop division was closed and
reformed as the El Segundo Division of Douglas Aircraft in 1937.
Thus the later derivate concepts of the Model 8 received Douglas designations,
DT = Douglas Transport.

Which explains why the Nomad looks like such a good place to start from if building a DT 202.

Some work on the cockpit tub and interior.  I'm not going to go mad but it needed something more than Hasegawa supplied.  OH&S regulations mean the staircase will have to get a handrail.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48721244377_cc2954c0f3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hek7wM)Skyraider Sky Cab WIP 12-09-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2hek7wM) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Gads! Love the camo on that floaty Spad! :wub:
Thanks.  That's the PDRV Archipelago scheme.  I used the colours I can see looking down on Port Philip Bay on a sunny summer day.  It's meant to look like vegetation, beach, surf, shallow water and deep water.
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Post by: zenrat on September 19, 2019, 02:07:24 am
Some internal painting has been done but the main news on Skycabraider is that I have ordered a heap of model railway figures from which to construct passengers for this and future passenger aircraft.
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Post by: loupgarou on September 19, 2019, 04:47:28 am
Fred, are model railways 1/87 or 1/76 in Australia? I thought it was 1/87. In this case figures would be too small.
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Post by: Old Wombat on September 19, 2019, 06:54:17 am
Fred, are model railways 1/87 or 1/76 in Australia? I thought it was 1/87. In this case figures would be too small.

But they will fit inside an enclosed cabin & look the part. ;)
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Post by: strobez on September 19, 2019, 03:29:54 pm
I love everything about this project.  What a spectacular idea.
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Post by: TheChronicOne on September 19, 2019, 08:55:47 pm
You have my full support!
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Post by: zenrat on September 20, 2019, 04:45:02 am
Thanks guys.

The figures are from evil-bay and the seller is in China.  I have ordered some OO (labelled as 1/72 although OO is 1/76) and some HO (1/87).
As Womby points out, they will be in an enclosed cabin.  Also being small will be an advantage as the available space is tight.

More painting of the interior today.  I'm trying to think "public transport" while choosing colours - so greys and blues mainly.
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Post by: Old Wombat on September 20, 2019, 07:02:32 am
Not reds/greens/blues with gold trimming? :unsure:

(I'm thinking trams, here. ;))
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Post by: NARSES2 on September 20, 2019, 07:05:12 am
Not reds/greens/blues with gold trimming? :unsure:

(I'm thinking trams, here. ;))

You've not been on Croydon's Trams have you ?  ;D
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Post by: Old Wombat on September 20, 2019, 09:16:49 am
Not reds/greens/blues with gold trimming? :unsure:

(I'm thinking trams, here. ;))

You've not been on Croydon's Trams have you ?  ;D

Melbourne & Adelaide (both mostly pre-1978). ;)
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Post by: zenrat on September 21, 2019, 06:56:28 pm
Not reds/greens/blues with gold trimming? :unsure:

(I'm thinking trams, here. ;))

You've not been on Croydon's Trams have you ?  ;D

Melbourne & Adelaide (both mostly pre-1978). ;)

Hmmm, yes.  Good point.  I have been thinking    modern public transport rather than 70's.
This is a Yarra Trams W Class tram interior.
(http://stock.railgallery.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/RailGallery_20160303_418.jpg)
Maybe i'll change my palette.
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Post by: NARSES2 on September 22, 2019, 01:07:00 am
Is that a tram or a pub ?  ;)
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Post by: chrisonord on September 22, 2019, 03:20:33 am
Is that a tram or a pub ?  ;)
;D ;D ;D
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Post by: scooter on September 22, 2019, 04:53:46 am
Damn, I wish NJ Transit's River Line light rail looked like that.  But then, like every government entity, they went with the lowest bidder...even if they eventually can't get parts
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Post by: zenrat on September 22, 2019, 05:23:36 am
Hate to say it but that is a restored older tram.
The modern ones are all grey wipe clean plastic and vinyl.
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Post by: zenrat on October 11, 2019, 01:29:29 am
Having finally received my bags of passengers I have selected some to install.
These are sold as HO (1/87) figures but are pretty much in scale with the pilot figure from the kit.  Read into that what you will.
In this bag there is a nice selection of men, women, girls and boys in what looks to be 50's or 60's clothing.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48879547747_3b112016c4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2htjsBe)Skyraider skycab WIP 11-10-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2htjsBe) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
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Post by: chrisonord on October 11, 2019, 02:16:30 am
Erm......
What is that pilot up to???? :-X
Chris
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Post by: Rheged on October 11, 2019, 02:24:54 am
Erm......
What is that pilot up to???? :-X
Chris

He's wondering why he has to wear a G-suit and helmet, whilst passenger Mrs Trellis beside him can wear her "going to church" hat and sensible dress!
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Post by: zenrat on October 11, 2019, 03:11:36 am
In a change to the usual "gonna mould them all in one piece" hands on thighs posture he has his left hand at his collar (holding a mike?  scratching his chin?  checking his laundry tags?) and his right hand in his crotch (your guess).
He's an ex-PDRV Special Forces pilot, part of their "volunteer" programme with the NVA in 'nam.  He claims he can't fly dressed any other way.

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Post by: NARSES2 on October 11, 2019, 06:15:00 am
Having finally received my bags of passengers I have selected some to install.
These are sold as HO (1/87) figures but are pretty much in scale with the pilot figure from the kit.  Read into that what you will.
In this bag there is a nice selection of men, women, girls and boys in what looks to be 50's or 60's clothing.


Back in the day when pilot/gunner figures etc were included in almost every kit they were always under scale, mainly because of the thickness of the fuselage walls back then. Tooled and moulded to fit the cockpits/turrets and I don't think they bothered to upgrade the tools, so they stayed the same even when the general mouldings improved ?

As for the clothing ? You could always say it's a private hire job to a rock and roll/60's music festival  ;)
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Post by: TheChronicOne on October 11, 2019, 09:23:29 am
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!
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Post by: Rick Lowe on October 11, 2019, 04:40:20 pm
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Agree.
That's why I have no problem mixing and matching various manufacturer's offerings in 1/35. Even different parts on the same figure, cos you get gorilla-arms, or longer legs, etc.
Not sure where I'd draw the line, though weaponry and web gear needs to be consistent.
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Post by: zenrat on October 11, 2019, 08:49:42 pm
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Agree.
That's why I have no problem mixing and matching various manufacturer's offerings in 1/35. Even different parts on the same figure, cos you get gorilla-arms, or longer legs, etc.
Not sure where I'd draw the line, though weaponry and web gear needs to be consistent.

As a fatter person with short arma and legs, I also agree.
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Post by: Rick Lowe on October 11, 2019, 11:24:31 pm
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Agree.
That's why I have no problem mixing and matching various manufacturer's offerings in 1/35. Even different parts on the same figure, cos you get gorilla-arms, or longer legs, etc.
Not sure where I'd draw the line, though weaponry and web gear needs to be consistent.

As a fatter person with short arma and legs, I also agree.

 ;D

Thinking on't, the 3-Metre-Long legs some of the Anime girls have is stretching credulity a bit far... (Bleurgh Emoticon X-P )
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Post by: NARSES2 on October 12, 2019, 02:32:52 am
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Yup, as long as the proportions are similar. Oddly (as usually we would say this is a fault)  in order to mix and match 1/87 and 1/76 figures successfully you need one or the other set to be slightly disproportionate ? If not they just don't work.

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Post by: loupgarou on October 12, 2019, 12:56:36 pm

Thinking on't, the 3-Metre-Long legs some of the Anime girls have is stretching credulity a bit far... (Bleurgh Emoticon X-P )

No, those are realistic. When it's fashion week in Milano (I suppose it's the same in Paris, etc), you should see the legs of the girl models.  :o <_<
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Post by: Rick Lowe on October 12, 2019, 01:00:56 pm

Thinking on't, the 3-Metre-Long legs some of the Anime girls have is stretching credulity a bit far... (Bleurgh Emoticon X-P )

No, those are realistic. When it's fashion week in Milano (I suppose it's the same in Paris, etc), you should see the legs of the girl models.  :o <_<

 :o :lol: :thumbsup:
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Post by: TheChronicOne on October 12, 2019, 01:06:35 pm
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Yup, as long as the proportions are similar. Oddly (as usually we would say this is a fault)  in order to mix and match 1/87 and 1/76 figures successfully you need one or the other set to be slightly disproportionate ? If not they just don't work.




Far out.... that is interesting. Reminds me a bit of forced perspective. "Cheating" in other words. Whatever works! Similarly, I've contemplated building up some 1/100 scale stuff (ground vehicles) to go with my 1/144 airliners but just to use in pictures, not as intended to be in scale as part of the collection. Just stick 'em in the background, foreground, or whatever then let the magic of forced perspective do the rest.
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Post by: zenrat on October 13, 2019, 01:20:07 am
You've got a bit more leeway when the figures are sitting.

As I now know I have passengers that will fit I closed the fuselage up today.  I also sanded the remains of the wing pylons off and started painting the punters.

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Post by: Nils on October 13, 2019, 02:13:17 am
im gonna follow this build closely, i have a similar model in the stash and you inspired me to do the same thing  :mellow:
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Post by: NARSES2 on October 13, 2019, 06:30:22 am

No, those are realistic. When it's fashion week in Milano (I suppose it's the same in Paris, etc), you should see the legs of the girl models.  :o <_<

That's right, but then they are so thin it makes the legs look longer
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Post by: kerick on October 13, 2019, 08:30:31 pm
You could switch out the pilot figure with a sitting guy wearing a baseball hat and fudge in some headphones. Just my $0.02.
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Post by: zenrat on October 15, 2019, 02:53:26 am
You could switch out the pilot figure with a sitting guy wearing a baseball hat and fudge in some headphones. Just my $0.02.

I have some white metal chopper pilots (elheim figures) which fit that description.  But no, i'm happy with the one I have.
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Post by: KiwiZac on October 16, 2019, 01:38:10 pm
I always thought an AD-5/A-1E would be the perfect warbird for the pilot with a family, this is an inspired idea! I love the mix of passengers and I'm excited to see how it goes.

I'm also another DT-202 fan. One day...
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Post by: Weaver on October 16, 2019, 04:38:14 pm
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Agree.
That's why I have no problem mixing and matching various manufacturer's offerings in 1/35. Even different parts on the same figure, cos you get gorilla-arms, or longer legs, etc.
Not sure where I'd draw the line, though weaponry and web gear needs to be consistent.

As a fatter person with short arma and legs, I also agree.

 ;D

Thinking on't, the 3-Metre-Long legs some of the Anime girls have is stretching credulity a bit far... (Bleurgh Emoticon X-P )

Used to be a female journalist who worked for one of the UK biker magazines who could have given them a run for their money (literally)... 36" inside leg measurement IIRC.

Remember 'Airnet' Fred? Worked for BSH?
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Post by: zenrat on October 17, 2019, 03:10:44 am
Out of scale figures are nice because people aren't all the same "scale" anyway. Taller people, shorter people, fatter people, thinner people.... ha!

Agree.
That's why I have no problem mixing and matching various manufacturer's offerings in 1/35. Even different parts on the same figure, cos you get gorilla-arms, or longer legs, etc.
Not sure where I'd draw the line, though weaponry and web gear needs to be consistent.

As a fatter person with short arma and legs, I also agree.

 ;D

Thinking on't, the 3-Metre-Long legs some of the Anime girls have is stretching credulity a bit far... (Bleurgh Emoticon X-P )

Used to be a female journalist who worked for one of the UK biker magazines who could have given them a run for their money (literally)... 36" inside leg measurement IIRC.

Remember 'Airnet' Fred? Worked for BSH?

Oh yes.
 ;)
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Post by: Weaver on October 17, 2019, 05:32:22 am
Airnet:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHFIMKVWkAAcsuS?format=jpg&name=900x900)

 :wub: :thumbsup:
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Post by: scooter on October 17, 2019, 05:39:51 am
HELLO NURSE!
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Post by: NARSES2 on October 17, 2019, 06:33:03 am
HELLO NURSE!

Bang goes your blood pressure  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Post by: Rick Lowe on October 17, 2019, 10:27:54 am
HELLO NURSE!

Agree!!  :wub: :wub: :thumbsup:
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Post by: zenrat on October 19, 2019, 01:09:29 am
Something much less pleasing to the eye.  And as yet, without legs at all.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48922035963_5677c4b904_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hx5dSF)SkyCabRaider WIP 19-10-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2hx5dSF) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
It is not a pretty aircraft is it.

Moulds are Monogram and despite it being in a Hasegawa box it has raised MMI copyright information inside and on the underneath of one elevator (dated 1967 and now sanded off).  Fit is poor and there are prominent sink marks and ejector pin marks to fill.
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Post by: Old Wombat on October 19, 2019, 03:57:20 am
The term "pregnant guppy" comes to mind when looking at her, Fred. ;)
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Post by: PR19_Kit on October 19, 2019, 04:09:44 am
More like 'Utilitarian' maybe?
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Post by: zenrat on October 19, 2019, 04:35:55 am
They certainly didn't waste any time making it looks nice did they.  The single seat Spad is not exactly a looker (unless you like them big and dumb looking) but this...

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Post by: kitnut617 on October 19, 2019, 06:36:56 am
I've seen a photo of the prototype and it had a spinner. Definitely improves the looks ---

Sort of had the appearance of this Bearcat I built some years ago. Spinner was a bit smaller in diameter though. IIRC, the two aircraft had the same propeller.

(http://village.photos/images/user/8f3973c9-3f0e-4b54-80e2-017121c0bf9f/9daf9ad1-7f5e-4af0-baa5-7a2328de09f3.jpg)
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Post by: chrisonord on October 21, 2019, 02:57:53 am
Its Its nowhere near as ugly as rhe electronics  bird I  built a few years  back. To this day I  still ask myself  what the hell was I  thinking.  ;D ;D I  like it, keep up  the good work Fred.
Chris
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 21, 2019, 03:15:57 am
Applied some PPP today and continued painting the punters and the pilot.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 27, 2019, 04:15:38 am
Here are the little people.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48966968826_1bc6ae36ca_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hB3vRd)SkyCabRaider People (https://flic.kr/p/2hB3vRd) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
From the left, Amanda, Graeme, Mary-Ellen, Mrs Trellis, Diana, Susan S, Beardy Dave and Scott.  Mary-Ellen and Diana are a couple but Diana has eyes on Susan S.  Graeme is an undercover policeman who is following Mrs Trellis who is suspected of being a serial killer.
Beardy Dave is the pilot from the kit (allegedly 1/72 but way underscale), Amanda and Scott are 1/72 Preiser figures and the rest are 1/87 model railway figures.  You wouldn't want to stand Amanda and Scott next to the others on a model railway station platform but they'll be standing outside the aircraft while the others will be sitting inside.  So it'll be fine.
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Post by: Old Wombat on October 27, 2019, 06:40:38 am
 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 27, 2019, 07:27:05 am
Hmm, are you planning a trip to UK in the near future Fred? We could use your 'people painting' talents for our model railway layout!

They look TERRIFIC!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Weaver on October 27, 2019, 09:25:32 am
Here are the little people.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48966968826_1bc6ae36ca_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hB3vRd)SkyCabRaider People (https://flic.kr/p/2hB3vRd) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
From the left, Amanda, Graeme, Mary-Ellen, Mrs Trellis, Diana, Susan S, Beardy Dave and Scott.  Mary-Ellen and Diana are a couple but Diana has eyes on Susan S.  Graeme is an undercover policeman who is following Mrs Trellis who is suspected of being a serial killer.
Beardy Dave is the pilot from the kit (allegedly 1/72 but way underscale), Amanda and Scott are 1/72 Preiser figures and the rest are 1/87 model railway figures.  You wouldn't want to stand Amanda and Scott next to the others on a model railway station platform but they'll be standing outside the aircraft while the others will be sitting inside.  So it'll be fine.

Mary-Ellen's going to get hacked off by Diana talking to Susan S for the whole flight and will comfort herself by striking up a conversation with Mrs Trellis, leaving Graeme wondering how he can get Mary Ellen away from her without blowing his cover. Amanda and Scott are married. Unfortunately, they're married to other people and are dealing with this like mature adults by eloping together to start a new life. Even more unfortunately, Beardy Dave is Amanda's husband, who's told her he's a 'taxi driver' not an 'air-taxi driver' so as not to worry her. Since they board while he's busy with the pre-flight, he won't notice them canoodling on the back seat until he adjusts the rear view mirror ten minutes after take-off.

Enjoy your flight... :wacko:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: kerick on October 27, 2019, 09:58:23 am
And this is supposed to be a less belligerent Skyraider? I donít think so!
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Post by: scooter on October 27, 2019, 11:50:45 am
Mary-Ellen's going to get hacked off by Diana talking to Susan S for the whole flight and will comfort herself by striking up a conversation with Mrs Trellis, leaving Graeme wondering how he can get Mary Ellen away from her without blowing his cover. Amanda and Scott are married. Unfortunately, they're married to other people and are dealing with this like mature adults by eloping together to start a new life. Even more unfortunately, Beardy Dave is Amanda's husband, who's told her he's a 'taxi driver' not an 'air-taxi driver' so as not to worry her. Since they board while he's busy with the pre-flight, he won't notice them canoodling on the back seat until he adjusts the rear view mirror ten minutes after take-off.

Enjoy your flight... :wacko:

Now all we need is an explosive device in a briefcase, a super-duper travel insurance policy, and you've got the makings of a airline disaster movie.
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Post by: Rick Lowe on October 27, 2019, 12:59:29 pm
Mary-Ellen's going to get hacked off by Diana talking to Susan S for the whole flight and will comfort herself by striking up a conversation with Mrs Trellis, leaving Graeme wondering how he can get Mary Ellen away from her without blowing his cover. Amanda and Scott are married. Unfortunately, they're married to other people and are dealing with this like mature adults by eloping together to start a new life. Even more unfortunately, Beardy Dave is Amanda's husband, who's told her he's a 'taxi driver' not an 'air-taxi driver' so as not to worry her. Since they board while he's busy with the pre-flight, he won't notice them canoodling on the back seat until he adjusts the rear view mirror ten minutes after take-off.

Enjoy your flight... :wacko:

Now all we need is an explosive device in a briefcase, a super-duper travel insurance policy, and you've got the makings of a airline disaster movie.

"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop popping amphetamines!"

I have to say I really enjoy your projects, Fred - not just the builds themselves, but all the history and little bits (or should that be large slabs!) of imagination you display with things like the backstories of a bunch of stray model passengers.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 27, 2019, 01:16:03 pm
Those are awesome lil buddies!
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Weaver on October 27, 2019, 07:42:56 pm
Mary-Ellen's going to get hacked off by Diana talking to Susan S for the whole flight and will comfort herself by striking up a conversation with Mrs Trellis, leaving Graeme wondering how he can get Mary Ellen away from her without blowing his cover. Amanda and Scott are married. Unfortunately, they're married to other people and are dealing with this like mature adults by eloping together to start a new life. Even more unfortunately, Beardy Dave is Amanda's husband, who's told her he's a 'taxi driver' not an 'air-taxi driver' so as not to worry her. Since they board while he's busy with the pre-flight, he won't notice them canoodling on the back seat until he adjusts the rear view mirror ten minutes after take-off.

Enjoy your flight... :wacko:

Now all we need is an explosive device in a briefcase, a super-duper travel insurance policy, and you've got the makings of a airline disaster movie.

Scott was so into keeping Amanda calm in the terminal that he picked up the wrong overcoat when they got up to go and he hasn't realised yet... ;)
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: philp on October 27, 2019, 08:14:54 pm
Know I am late to this thread but...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHFIMKVWkAAcsuS?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Oh, and the build looks nice too.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 28, 2019, 02:25:23 am
Thank you gentlefolks...

...I think.   :unsure:

Kit, I have discovered that the trick to figure painting is carefull photo selection and editing.   ;)

Mary Ellen, Susan S, Diana, Amanda and Graeme are named after people I know because while painting them some element of them or their clothing or posture struck me as being similar.  Scott struck me as having a resemblance to our current prime minister while Mrs Trellis was previously christened by Rheged.
Beardy Dave's real name is Denagamage Praboth Muralitharan.  He goes by Dave because white folks can't pronounce Denagamage.  His workmates call him Beardy Dave to distinguish him from Beardy Mick.

Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Rheged on October 28, 2019, 03:35:11 pm
This item is described as "A whif of a less belligerent nature".  Given the tangled relationships so eloquently outlined by its creator, I'm expecting a degree of fisticuffs/heavy duty handbagging/hairpulling/biting and gouging before long. Belligerence is still a distinct possibility!!

A point of information :- Mrs Trellis is a creation of "I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue", a BBC radio comedy panel game. 

A regular feature on the programme, preceding the game Mornington Crescent, is a fictional letters section which begins with the chairman's comments ("I notice from the sheer weight of this week's postbag, we've received a little over no letters" and "I see from the number of letters raining down on us this week that the Scrabble factory has exploded again"). The invariably single letter each week is from "A Mrs Trellis of North Wales",  whose incoherent letters usually mistake the chairman for another Radio 4 presenter or media personality. "Dear Libby" (she writes), "why oh why ... very nearly spells YOYO", or "Dear Mr Titchmarsh, never let them tell you that size isn't important. My aunt told me that, but then all my new wallpaper fell off."

As for Mornington Crescent, strong men have been reduced to gibbering  incoherence trying to explain the game......:-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game))
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Weaver on October 28, 2019, 06:01:22 pm
As for Mornington Crescent, strong men have been reduced to gibbering  incoherence trying to explain the game......:-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game))

That's what happens when you don't have a copy of Stovold to hand.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 29, 2019, 01:07:36 am
I am well aware of where you fished the name Mrs Trellis.

I installed the punters into the aircraft today.



Loughborough Junction.

Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Scotaidh on October 29, 2019, 01:15:28 am
I am well aware of where you fished the name Mrs Trellis.

I installed the punters into the aircraft today.



Loughborough Junction.

Tottenham Court Road
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Weaver on October 29, 2019, 02:26:32 am
Crafty....

Hanger Lane
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Rheged on October 29, 2019, 03:47:07 am
Crafty....

Hanger Lane

That's a very interesting move.  Assuming that we are allowed to play the Winchester Riposte variant, may I offer South Mimms as the next logical step?




Apologies, I think that your Skyraider has just  been hijacked by thread drift virus.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 29, 2019, 03:54:34 am
 ;D
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Post by: Weaver on October 29, 2019, 04:03:05 am
Crafty....

Hanger Lane

That's a very interesting move.  Assuming that we are allowed to play the Winchester Riposte variant, may I offer South Mimms as the next logical step?


Well that's quite the assumption, but let's run with it...

If I recall correctly, Winchester Riposte allows for reverse over-steps does it not? In which case, Turnham Green.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: chrisonord on October 29, 2019, 07:31:01 am
Move over  neighbours and home and away,  Fred has just  invented  the next Ausie soap opera ;D :-\
Chris
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Post by: scooter on October 29, 2019, 08:05:35 am
I ought to just go to Earl's Court and file charges for perpetuating thread drift virus
 :wacko:
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Post by: strobez on October 29, 2019, 08:07:37 am
This thread seems to have taken the proverbial left turn at Albuquerque... I donít know where itís going, but Iím along for the ride.
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Post by: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2019, 09:09:48 am
I haven't the faintest idea what this is all about.  :o

Is it something to do with the Monopoly game?
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Rheged on October 29, 2019, 09:25:42 am
I haven't the faintest idea what this is all about.  :o

Is it something to do with the Monopoly game?

It's from the radio 4 panel game  I'M SORRY I HAVN'T A CLUE.  It's  explained (perhaps) below



 Mornington Crescent?   Strong men have been reduced to gibbering  incoherence trying to explain the game......:-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game))

Strobez, I'm not sure that a left turn at Albuquerque is a sound strategy at this point in the game.........you could find yourself up against the buffers in Podunk, Nebraska in the next couple of moves.
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Post by: Weaver on October 29, 2019, 05:19:01 pm
This thread seems to have taken the proverbial left turn at Albuquerque... I donít know where itís going, but Iím along for the ride.

I'm not sure that Winchester Reposte allows that on an even numbered turn. Did you posset first?


There are places in the Multiverse where Mornington Crescent can get serious:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFpdeSXUAExrK3?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Post by: Scotaidh on October 30, 2019, 01:53:24 am
As I see it, the Winchester Reposte from Ealing Common leaves me no choice but Shepherd's Bush  ...
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Rheged on October 30, 2019, 03:01:13 am
As a courtesy to  Zenrat, whose thread we seem to have annexed,   do you think that we ought to declare "Mornington Crescent" at this point and let the poor chap have his thread back?.............or, as he is Antipodean, perhaps the appropriate conclusion would be "Mornington Peninsula?

Sorry, mate, thread drift virus has hit Australia, despite your country's valiant efforts at Phyto-security.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Old Wombat on October 30, 2019, 03:14:29 am
Amusingly, Fred lives on the Mornington Peninsula, so that could be an appropriate end point. ;D ;)
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 30, 2019, 03:34:50 am
As a courtesy to  Zenrat, whose thread we seem to have annexed,   do you think that we ought to declare "Mornington Crescent" at this point and let the poor chap have his thread back?.............or, as he is Antipodean, perhaps the appropriate conclusion would be "Mornington Peninsula?...

Or as it is in the PDRV timeline (following the nuclear destruction of the secret Japanese Antarctic base and the melting of the icecap) Mornington Archipelago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-RkC6MYT2E


...There are places in the Multiverse where Mornington Crescent can get serious:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIFpdeSXUAExrK3?format=jpg&name=900x900)

What is that H?  The Hawkmoon reference makes me think Michael Moorcock might be involved somehow.

Anyhoo, back to the modelling.

Despite the aircraft still undergoing construction the occupants have boarded.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984972761_7562de5516_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMMT)SkyCabRaider WIP 30-10-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMMT) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984972926_927b8107a8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMQJ)SkyCabRaider WIP 30-10-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMQJ) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Graeme appears to be staring intently at Susan S's chest.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Weaver on October 30, 2019, 04:06:27 am
As a courtesy to  Zenrat, whose thread we seem to have annexed,   do you think that we ought to declare "Mornington Crescent" at this point and let the poor chap have his thread back?.............or, as he is Antipodean, perhaps the appropriate conclusion would be "Mornington Peninsula?...

I was wondering when he'd realise that he could call a halt to it anytime he wanted by doing that himself... ;D ;)



...There are places in the Multiverse where Mornington Crescent can get serious:

What is that H?  The Hawkmoon reference makes me think Michael Moorcock might be involved somehow.

It's from Michael Moorcock's Multiverse*, a graphic novel that's related to the War Amongst The Angels trilogy (Blood: a Southern Fantasy, Fabulous Harbours and The War Amongst The Angels). I say 'related' because it doesn't tell the same story: I suspect the idea is that it's an example of the comic books which characters read and critique in the novels because they present skewed and simplified versions of their own adventures. This fits in with the multi-scale, layers-within-layers nature of this version of the Multiverse. For instance, Michael Moorcock and the artist who draws the comic, Walter Simonson, both appear as characters in the story, interacting in critical ways with the characters they're writing/drawing at the same time.

The lady is The Rose, last survivor of a universe of flowers and skilled ether-pilot. In the novels she flies a Dornier Do.X, but in the comics the un-named flying boat looks more like a Saro Princess. I have at least one idea for a pretty crazy model based on other things in this book, but whether I'll ever get round to it I don't know.

*Be careful if you go looking for it**: there are several 'collected works' books out there with similar names that are just reprints of completely unrelated novels/novellas.

**Be careful if you go looking for her, too.. ;)



Despite the aircraft still undergoing construction the occupants have boarded.

Well they do tell you to book early for the best ticket prices...


Graeme appears to be staring intently at Susan S's chest.

That's probably why he made the probably regrettable error of allowing Mrs. Trellis to take the co-pilot's seat.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on October 30, 2019, 04:15:32 am
As a courtesy to  Zenrat, whose thread we seem to have annexed,   do you think that we ought to declare "Mornington Crescent" at this point and let the poor chap have his thread back?.............or, as he is Antipodean, perhaps the appropriate conclusion would be "Mornington Peninsula?...

I was wondering when he'd realise that he could call a halt to it anytime he wanted by doing that himself... ;D ;)


I have no problem with thread drift, threadjacking, threadnapping or out right thread theft.  Mainly because I am usually involved.   :mellow:
Anyway, if you look back you may note that i started it.

I was happy to let it run it's course because it was interesting me who was au-fait with the game and who was perplexed.
I would have put good money on Kit being a rusted on Radio Four listener from way back.  I would have lost.

How are things in Ambridge these days?

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Post by: Weaver on October 30, 2019, 04:29:00 am

I would have put good money on Kit being a rusted on Radio Four listener from way back.  I would have lost.

How are things in Ambridge these days?

You'd have lost more if you'd bet on me listening to The Archers. Havn't a clue, sorry.
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Post by: PR19_Kit on October 30, 2019, 09:46:01 am

I was happy to let it run it's course because it was interesting me who was au-fait with the game and who was perplexed.
I would have put good money on Kit being a rusted on Radio Four listener from way back.  I would have lost.

How are things in Ambridge these days?


Hah! My taste in radio listening stretches to Radio 2 in the daytimes, specially to Johnny Walker's show on Sunday afternoon, and the local version of Heart.

The clue is in the second line of my signature.  ;D
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Post by: Rheged on October 30, 2019, 09:55:42 am

How are things in Ambridge these days?

I haven't listened since Dan Archer was stricken with Foot and Mouth disease and one of the Grundy family combusted spontaneously in the car park of the Black Bull.   

(Later)

Having consulted a neighbour who listens avidly, she says "Things are trudging along as they usually do"


Another bout of thread drift virus seems to be starting.........
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Post by: kitnut617 on October 30, 2019, 11:10:20 am

How are things in Ambridge these days?

I haven't listened since Dan Archer was stricken with Foot and Mouth disease and one of the Grundy family combusted spontaneously in the car park of the Black Bull.   

(Later)

Having consulted a neighbour who listens avidly, she says "Things are trudging along as they usually do"


Another bout of thread drift virus seems to be starting.........

mrs kitnut is an avid corny st. watcher, every now and then I happen to see a scene which looks very reminiscent to one I saw maybe a month ago, only to find out it was one of the umpteen different continuing stories that had been switched back to the limelight -----
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Post by: Tophe on October 30, 2019, 07:23:20 pm
Despite the aircraft still undergoing construction the occupants have boarded.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984972761_7562de5516_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMMT)SkyCabRaider WIP 30-10-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMMT) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
This sitting layout reminds me the jeepneys in the Philppines (that have no wings but for streets only) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Scotaidh on October 31, 2019, 01:47:21 am
Despite the aircraft still undergoing construction the occupants have boarded.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984972761_7562de5516_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMMT)SkyCabRaider WIP 30-10-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2hCCMMT) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
This sitting layout reminds me the jeepneys in the Philppines (that have no wings but for streets only) :thumbsup:

I remember, when I was very young, flying (somewhere) in a DC-3 that had the seats aligned against the cabin walls.  That left the centre aisle for cargo - in that case, a load of very green hides. I don't recall, but my mother said the hides stank horribly - which i why I got airsick all over myself.  I very well remember the clammy shirt.  :p
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Post by: NARSES2 on October 31, 2019, 07:07:17 am
You can almost see them playing cards with that passenger layout ?


Hah! My taste in radio listening stretches to Radio 2 in the daytimes, specially to Johnny Walker's show on Sunday afternoon, and the local version of Heart.


Must admit I like Walker's show and Tony Blackburn's Sounds of the Sixties early on a Saturday. The beauty of all the early stuff is if you don't like it then it's only on for 2 minutes or less, until Richard Harris came along  :banghead: Other than Radio 2 I listen to the local Smooth and I must admit Radio 2 has gone down hill, IMHO, over the last year or so  :-\

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Post by: zenrat on November 07, 2019, 02:54:23 am
I took the opportunity to paint this today.  Primrose yellow gloss enamel from a very old rattle can.  It's the same paint i've used on the other two Frankston Sky Cabs aircraft plus at least three car builds - must be at least 10 years old.
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Post by: TheChronicOne on November 07, 2019, 10:29:46 am
Can't wait to see it. I've been catching up with you. Mine is just about ready for the main paint show.  :wacko:
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Post by: zenrat on November 08, 2019, 02:52:23 am
I meant to take a photo today.  Forgot.  Sorry.
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Post by: zenrat on November 09, 2019, 12:03:14 am
Just for you Brad C.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49036400503_0d80da9400_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hHbnt6)SkyCabRaider WIP 09-11-19 (https://flic.kr/p/2hHbnt6) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
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Post by: Cobra on November 09, 2019, 12:29:43 am
this is starting to Look Really Cool & Interesting,You may have Given me an Idea that may Soon get Going. Thanks & Good Luck :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Dan
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Post by: TheChronicOne on November 09, 2019, 12:05:04 pm
Yay!!!! I am impressed!! Pesky yellow.....   oh, this is going to be so cool.  :wacko: :wacko:
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Post by: kitnut617 on November 09, 2019, 12:41:18 pm
It's looking good Fred  ----  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I can also see it being used in the Royal Flying Doctor program
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Post by: zenrat on November 09, 2019, 08:46:58 pm
RFDS - I hadn't thought of that.  I am planning to build a series of Flying Doctor whiffs.
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Post by: strobez on November 11, 2019, 03:38:21 pm
I really really love this idea.  It's coming to life very nicely too.  That's one of the things I love about WHIF modelling, you can take something well-known and just turn it ever so slightly sideways... and then it becomes new and awesome.
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Post by: zenrat on November 12, 2019, 02:38:42 am
Thanks Greg.

I'm not touching it for a few more days now as I want the yellow paint to fully gas out and harden before I handle it.
Next job is making a door.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on November 17, 2019, 01:06:53 am
Made a door today.
Also painted some tape to use to make canopy framing.
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Post by: ysi_maniac on November 17, 2019, 04:39:40 pm
So nice and original!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: zenrat on November 27, 2019, 02:58:35 am
I put the transfers on this last week.  While handling it I realised the yellow (enamel) paint hadn't fully gassed out and was slightly tacky.  So its been in my dehydrator since then so it can harden up.

Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Dizzyfugu on November 27, 2019, 03:15:22 am
Very nice! Reminds me that I have also a kind of Skyraider passenger plane on my idea/project list!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on December 02, 2019, 01:13:00 am
Over the last week i've been  touching up the green & white chequers that form part of Frankston Sky Cabs livery.  They get a bit blurry around the edges where I cut them to fit as the water can get under the clear and affect the ink.
Having finished that I cleared over the transfers today.  During the process of putting on the transfers I managed to detach Susan S from her seat at which point, so disturbed by Diana's leers, she leapt to the floor and ran off with the spiders.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: NARSES2 on December 02, 2019, 05:58:42 am
Brave girl to run off with the spiders Down Under  ;)
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: scooter on December 02, 2019, 06:19:31 am
Brave girl to run off with the spiders Down Under  ;)

Maybe she's decided to become a disciple of the Spider Queen, Lloth.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Old Wombat on December 02, 2019, 10:08:34 pm
Brave girl to run off with the spiders Down Under  ;)

Maybe she's decided to become a disciple of the Spider Queen, Lloth.

And soon after she'll be invited for dinner. :angel:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on December 07, 2019, 01:07:00 am
Progress.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49181088008_af85c37de0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hVXW2f)SkyCabRaider WIP 07-12-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2hVXW2f) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
I started painting the fiddley bits today.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: KiwiZac on December 07, 2019, 01:23:35 am
Lovely!
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Cobra on December 07, 2019, 02:20:58 am
this is Looking Awesome :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Keep up the Superb Work :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: loupgarou on December 07, 2019, 03:55:34 am
Groovy!
And an interesting background story too. Interesting characters. I lost what happened to the lady with the spyders.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 07, 2019, 11:13:22 am
Killer!! 
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: strobez on December 12, 2019, 06:43:22 am
Glad I decided to check in on this thread.  What a treat! I really love this idea and it looks like you're doing it justice.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on December 13, 2019, 03:30:16 am
Thanks folks.
I finished construction of this today by attaching the small main UC doors to the landing legs.  It's not quite done as it needs some washes and weathering and some boarding steps scratchbuilt.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: Captain Canada on December 13, 2019, 08:13:57 am
Yes very nice. Always been intrigued by that aeroplane, aver since I saw one at the Hamilton ( ON ) show as a kid. I can only imagine what one could get up to in there lol
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on December 19, 2019, 03:02:01 am
This is finished...


...but i have to paint the stairs.  So there will be a delay before beauty pics.

Which will give me time to write some lies about it.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: DogfighterZen on December 19, 2019, 12:40:01 pm
This looks great, something i'd probably never think of but i do like it! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab.
Post by: zenrat on December 29, 2019, 03:02:39 am
Frankston Skycabs AD-5 SkyCabRaider

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49291515973_2d2b92381a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUpF)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUpF) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

As the GAL 50 Porthusís (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=41513.msg710884#msg710884) used by Frankston Skycabs on their government subsidised Skybus services approached the end of their usefull life the management started to look around for a more modern eight seater aircraft to replace them.
The PDRV government had, when acquiring Skyraiders from the shady European arms dealer known only as Smallbeer1 for conversion to floatplanes, (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=38370.0) been forced to accept a number of demilitarised2 two seater AD-5 aircraft as part of the order.  The Central Committee of the Air Force deemed these to be unacceptable for the intended revenue protection use and made them available to approved non-military users.  Frankston Skycabs (by now a subsidiary of the zenrat industries owned VicAir and therefore very definitely approved) saw the potential of the now empty rear cockpit and snapped up them all3.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49292201042_88e369983d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6Mq4d)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 6 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6Mq4d) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Phillip Island based Bassview Fabrications carried out the conversion work fitting bench seats along both sides of the rear cockpit, installing luggage stowage racks in the fuselage and cutting a door into the port side behind the wing before painting the airframe in Frankston Skycabsí trademark primrose yellow with green/white chequers.
The deleted centreline hardpoint was replaced in order to carry additional fuel tankage.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49291515148_37c91d1a90_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUas)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 15 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUas) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

By the time the SkyCabRaiders replaced the Porthuses the Frankston to Adelaide Sky Bus run was being performed by larger faster aircraft but in addition to use for on demand ďtaxiĒ use there was still a requirement for eight seaters on the timetabled rural services.  Some cut back in services resulted due to the SkyCabRaider not having the rough strip ability of the Porthus although many country airstrips were improved under a government scheme to ensure public air transport remained available to the rural population.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49291515468_4103fd1040_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUfY)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 10 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUfY) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

SkyCabRaiders soldiered on in Frankston Skycabs service until the late seventies when spare parts started to become a problem.  Some were converted to crop sprayers4 with the rest being used for parts to keep them in the air.  A few still perform this role to this day while others, reverting back to their pre PDRV life, have found a niche as the perfect ďwarbirdĒ for the family that wishes to fly together5.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49291515688_fdc6c0bb04_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUjL)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6HUjL) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

1 Interpol sources indicate he or she may operate from Flanders.  But other than that, have no information they are willing to share regarding identity.  Smallbeer is believed to have a casual connection with zenrat industries.
2 Wing guns and hardpoints removed along with all electronic equipment from the rear cockpit area.  It was the lack of hardpoints which made them, in the eyes of the CCAF, unsuitable even though it would be relatively easy to replace them.
3 While all available AD5s were signed out from government hands the number put into service by Frankston Skycabs is lower by four.  Despite photographs appearing to show these aircraft at their skunkworks hanger at Dadswell Bridge, zenrat industries refuse to address the issue stating it is a clerical error and any further questions on the matter will be referred to the Secret State Police and anyone who knows what is good for them and wants to keep their teeth and fingernails will drop it.
4 Very over-powered but able to spray vast acreages in record time without reloading or refuelling.
5 One New Zealand owned example even being converted into a pop-top camper Ė the renowned Flying Kombi.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49292002206_9831e2bc7a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6LoX1)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 16 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6LoX1) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Model.
Hasegawa Douglas AD-5 Skyraider.
Home made transfers.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49292200277_36ac0a3653_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2i6MpQ2)Douglas AD-5 Skyraider  - 17 (https://flic.kr/p/2i6MpQ2) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: chrisonord on December 29, 2019, 03:17:26 am
Brilliant  :wub:
Chris
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: Cobra on December 29, 2019, 03:34:26 am
Superb Build & a Really Cool Idea! any Plans to try Something Similar like an ASR Version? Keep up the Superb Work :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: zenrat on December 29, 2019, 03:56:38 am
Thanks folks.

No plans to build another of these Cobra.  I really don't like them much (I prefer the slimline single seat Spads) but I had the kit and then Maxmwill suggested we should build less belligerent models and so Frankston Skycabs got another aircraft.
This won't be their last, although I have run out of Primrose Yellow paint.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: NARSES2 on December 29, 2019, 05:56:48 am
That works well mate, especially from the upper view  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 29, 2019, 09:53:35 am
FANTASTIC Fred!  :thumbsup:

But I reckon you ought to build the Kiwi 'Flying Combi' version.  ;D
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: kitnut617 on December 29, 2019, 11:41:36 am
Very nice Fred  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I think some windows in the van would've been good though   ;D 

One of the things I used to see at YYC, the buses taking passengers to the ground loading gates for the little regional aircraft. The airport in their wisdom, decided these gates had to be on the taxiway side of the apron  :banghead:  I occasionally had to sit out there making sure the passengers didn't wander off and mingle with the contractors I was looking after  ---
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: Captain Canada on December 29, 2019, 11:47:21 am
Looks right, and a great little read as well. Cheers !
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Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2019, 12:09:06 pm
Most glorious! Yes, less beligerent is fun.  ;D

I will try to make a companion some day... a school bus themed 707 or something.  :mellow:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 29, 2019, 03:41:11 pm
 :thumbsup:
Nice one.
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: Tophe on December 29, 2019, 08:55:20 pm
Congratulations for the finished pics! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2019, 09:33:43 pm
It's awesome. I can picture it flying through a near but not too far off future in NYC with a comedian in the back asking the patrons trivia questions for money.  :wub: Dark and rainy at the time. I'm also seeing Fifth Element ... err.. elements.  :mellow:
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Post by: comrade harps on December 29, 2019, 09:46:48 pm
 :wub:

Can it be converted into a water bomber (quickly)?
Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: zenrat on December 30, 2019, 03:04:05 am
Thanks folks.

...I think some windows in the van would've been good though   ;D 

Yes.  I did think that but while I have two of those vans built this one is more appropriate as it has bench seats in the back.  The other is strictly a box van with a roller door.  However I do have a third unbuilt version (they come from the Hasegawa US Pilots & Ground Crew set) which could get windows and minibus seating.  Or maybe I should get a 1/72 Roden bus for Dadswell Bridge?

...I will try to make a companion some day... a school bus themed 707 or something.  :mellow:

Make it a 707 SP Short Bus.   ;D

:wub:

Can it be converted into a water bomber (quickly)?

I suppose all the passengers could throw their bottled water on fires?
In the PDRV timeline bushfires are less common in Australia since the 1946 nuking of the secret Japanese Antarctic base melted the ice causing sea level rise and the greening of the red centre.
The Peninsula became the Mornington Archipelago and Frankston the Venice of Victoria.
 ;D

Title: Re: A whif of a less belligerent nature - Skyraider Sky Cab; Finished pics page 9.
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on December 30, 2019, 10:38:38 am
Interesting story and a different take on the SPAD! :thumbsup: