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GROUP BUILDS => 2019 One Week Build => Topic started by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 05:01:33 am

Title: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 05:01:33 am
I plan to try and build a T-80 AEV.
The Assault Engineer Vehicle was a specialist adaptation of the T-80 Main Battle Tank built for, and used exclusively by the PDRV Republican Guard.
It's purpose was to assault and breach defensive positions such as those found on the PDRV/Great Eastern Australia border.

I shall be starting with this 1/48 kit I got from a nice man here on the forum.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/9b/56/bf9b56981383dc0c343a857d509383be.jpg)
It's not a particularly complex kit, having rubber band tracks and an electric motor.  But this makes it perfect for whiffing.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 08:45:19 pm
The Beginning.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48022329028_ee8fd04105_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gayZm9)T-80 AEV Start (https://flic.kr/p/2gayZm9) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

And in about 45 minutes of work I got to this point.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48022328898_67cc7f66e6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gayZiU)T-80 AEV WIP 08-06-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gayZiU) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Unlike the Takom and Meng kits i've been building recently this one cannot be blamed for unnecessary parts breakdown.  All the detail you can see is moulded in place. 
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48022303821_ee32873098_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gayRRx)T-80 AEV WIP 08-06-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gayRRx) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Now on a car model this would be an issue because I would have to carefully paint each item the appropriate colour.  However being a military vehicle most of them will be whatever shade of green or brown I choose for the exterior.
The replacement gun is a breech loading 280mm mortar.  Capable of firing a wide range of munitions including white phosphorus, anti personnel and nuclear demolition charges.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: Old Wombat on June 07, 2019, 09:41:48 pm
... and nuclear demolition charges.

For when you really want them to pay attention to you knocking on the door. :wacko: ;) ;D

Unlike the Takom and Meng kits i've been building recently this one cannot be blamed for unnecessary parts breakdown.  All the detail you can see is moulded in place. 

It's as much a scale thing as anything else. In 1/48, that level of detail is good; in 1/35, armour modellers prefer the hatches, etc., to have the appropriate gaps & the suspension to look reasonably accurate (even if it is hidden behind a skirt - kinda like girls back in the 1940's/50's ;)).
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 08, 2019, 01:27:47 am
Time.  It's a b**ch.

Here's where I finished up today.  I had hoped to get the road wheels on but as the astute observer will, ummmm, observe I had to re-engineer the mounting of the front sprockets after I lost a part to the great god PING!.  I also had to find one axle to replace the one that wasn't in the sealed bag and a second one to use instead of the supplied too long one that proved immune to my pincers (it was easier than looking for a hacksaw with a blade that didn't support Collingwood or Richmond* and then skinning my knuckles using the vice).

*ie one that wasn't missing any teeth.   ;D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48023104228_b921895eb6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaCXME)T-80 AEV WIP 08-06-2019 03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaCXME) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

It's as much a scale thing as anything else. In 1/48, that level of detail is good; in 1/35, armour modellers prefer the hatches, etc., to have the appropriate gaps & the suspension to look reasonably accurate (even if it is hidden behind a skirt - kinda like girls back in the 1940's/50's ;)).

Maybe.  But the other 1/48 armour kits in my stash (Hobby Boss and Tamiya) have more separate parts and less moulded detail.  Having it all moulded in is great for a fast build like this one but not so good if you are doing a serious kit bash.
I would quite like to build a Stug type tank destroyer from the Kitech T-72 I got from the nice man ;) at the same time as this one but cutting the hull down is going to be tricky with all that stuff moulded in place.

While putting this together I was musing what good tank country the Hay Plain is.  Victorian armoured forces could cross the Murray at Robinvale and then sweep North and East into New South Wales.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: rickshaw on June 08, 2019, 06:37:43 am
As the "nice man", I resemble that remark.  Good to see you finally getting 'round to using those kits.  1/48 is just not my scale.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 02:40:04 pm
... and nuclear demolition charges.

SFX: BANG!....pause.... <whooomph> (sound of a parachute opening)

Them (on the radio): "Missed! You missed us! Nah, nah na naaah nah! Can't even see where it landed!"

AEV Crew (on the radio): "Uh huh - look up and see if you can hear a ticking noise. Also, you just wouldn't believe how fast a gas-turbine-powered tank can go in reverse: exhibit A..."
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2019, 05:21:22 am
Spent the whole day at ComicCon so did nothing on this.
And I will do nothing tomorrow as I will be at Model Expo.

...Good to see you finally getting 'round to using those kits.  1/48 is just not my scale.   :thumbsup:

I like it.  Big enough to weather* but small enough to not take up too much space.  I have been collecting Soviet Armour in this scale and it was time I built some more.

... and nuclear demolition charges.

SFX: BANG!....pause.... <whooomph> (sound of a parachute opening)

Them (on the radio): "Missed! You missed us! Nah, nah na naaah nah! Can't even see where it landed!"

AEV Crew (on the radio): "Uh huh - look up and see if you can hear a ticking noise. Also, you just wouldn't believe how fast a gas-turbine-powered tank can go in reverse: exhibit A..."

 ;D
Although IIRC T-80s are NBC sealed so everything would be OK. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

Does anyone know what the tubular thing across the back of the turret is in the box art?  A snorkel?

Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: Weaver on June 09, 2019, 05:31:08 am

Although IIRC T-80s are NBC sealed so as long as it got out of the blast zone it should be OK.

Does anyone know what the tubular thing across the back of the turret is in the box art?  A snorkel?

Yep, it's a snorkel. Note that, unlike Western ones, it is NOT big enough to provide a surface control position for the TC so he can direct the driver, nor to serve as an escape route if the vehicle gets bogged down or stalls on the bottom (which happens a lot). Russian tank crews have been known to mutiny rather than use these things, and when you consider the consequences of mutiny in the Soviet Army...  :o  The way they persuaded them that it was kinda-safe(ish) was to make it standard operating procedure for any wading tank to be attached by cables front AND rear to the winches of recovery vehicles on both banks, so that if it got stuck/stalled/lost it could (almost) certainly be pulled out. Just about the only redeeming feature of these things is that they're small enough for every tank to carry it's own at all times, whereas the Western-style ones are on an supply truck somewhere, constantly trying to catch up with and/or find the tanks that need them.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2019, 05:46:58 am
Thanks H.   Now I need to decide whether to leave it off.  Maybe the modifications made to the T-80 when retromodding it into the AEV mean is is unsuitable for deep wading?

I recently watched a French doco series (Age of Tanks?) where they interviewed a former WarPac tanker who talked about wading a river as the final test to qualify on armour.  He said it was fraught as they didn't know where they were in relation to the banks and not all the tanks (T-54s IIRC) were as watertight as they should have been.
The same doco had footage of the T-80 showing why it was nicknamed The Flying Tank.  A nickname which nearly sent me in a different direction with this whiff... ;)
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 11, 2019, 03:55:17 am
Todays progress pics.

All small parts attached.  I have decided not to use the snorkel.  Mainly because the mould halves were misaligned and is has a step in it which will be a pig to sand.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48041576823_350d7993f8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcgD3F)T-80 AEV WIP 11-06-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gcgD3F) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

And i've lowered her skirts.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48041576638_68f22c4669_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcgCZu)T-80 AEV WIP 11-06-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gcgCZu) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Since the pics i've primed everything and then done some preshading.
I also primed the rubber band tracks.  I'm not convinced it'll stay there...

Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2019, 01:58:06 am
I put the base colour on this morning.  Six hours later it hadn't dried.
It wasn't too cold today (top of 15℃) but there has been an inch of rain and humidity is at 95% so that may have something to do with it.
The parts are now on top of a cupboard in the nice warm lounge room.  I'm hoping they have dried tomorrow so I can progress.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2019, 02:45:00 am
And after approximately an hour on top of the cupboard its dried.  Which is nice.

Tomorrow, after painting I will be putting the parts into my dehydrator.

Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2019, 06:09:27 am
I put the base colour on this morning.  Six hours later it hadn't dried.
It wasn't too cold today (top of 15℃) but there has been an inch of rain and humidity is at 95% so that may have something to do with it.


I'm not surprised, the couple of times I've been in humidity at those levels I couldn't get dry either.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2019, 04:14:29 am
Yes, but bear in mind that humidity was measured by my weather station which was on top of it's 6m post in the pouring rain.  It was prolly less humid in my shed.  But still dank.
No rain until 1730 today so my paint dried much better.

Close of play today it looked like this.  I started with DAK colours and then went free range.
Skirts are just blu tac-ed on for painting.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48054167068_46099cddbe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gdoaFS)T-80 AEV WIP 13-06-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gdoaFS) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48054166798_e5f5838078_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gdoaBd)T-80 AEV WIP 13-06-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gdoaBd) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: NARSES2 on June 13, 2019, 06:23:22 am
Looking good mate
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2019, 01:55:15 am
Thanks Chris.

Here it is at stumps today.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48060079691_eca63d108e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gdUtiD)T-80 AEV WIP 14-06-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gdUtiD) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: Old Wombat on June 14, 2019, 02:49:39 am
Lookin' good, Fred! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2019, 03:14:57 am
Thanks Womby.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 14, 2019, 05:03:10 am
Even WITHOUT the tracks it looks lethal!  :o
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2019, 05:59:45 am
Thanks Kit.
Tracks should go on tomorrow.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 15, 2019, 01:04:31 am
And tracks are on.
Nothing more to do except some silver paint on the lights and maybe some weathering power to dirty it up.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48065561423_b57806499e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geoyQg)T-80 AEV WIP 15-06-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2geoyQg) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 15, 2019, 08:59:13 pm
Finished.  Lies written.  Paint drying and then i'll take some snaps.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: zenrat on June 16, 2019, 01:42:56 am
T-80 AEV PDRV Republican Guard.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48071491298_3191fd556a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geUXzu)T-80 AEV - 18 of 21 (https://flic.kr/p/2geUXzu) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Assault Engineer Vehicle was a specialist adaptation of the T-80 Main Battle Tank used exclusively by the Combat Engineers of the PDRV Republican Guard.
It's purpose was to assault and breach fortified defensive positions such as the Trumble Line along the PDRV/Great Eastern Australia border and the Hanson Line further North.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48071491673_3a74a3305b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geUXFX)T-80 AEV - 14 of 21 (https://flic.kr/p/2geUXFX) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

T-80ís were retrofitted to AEV specs by Pask Heavy Engineering.  This work involved replacing the main gun, additional armour and upgraded NBC protections.
The replacement gun was a breech loading 280mm mortar.  Capable of firing a wide range of munitions including white phosphorus, anti personnel air burst, rocket boosted penetration and nuclear demolition charges.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48071444631_0ab051bd33_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geUHGT)T-80 AEV - 1 of 21 (https://flic.kr/p/2geUHGT) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Model

1/48 Kitech T-80U
Barrel & additional armour from evergreen
Painted with Vallejo acrylics
Decals from the stash

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48071444076_cd2169b178_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geUHxj)T-80 AEV - 4 of 21 (https://flic.kr/p/2geUHxj) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Obviously as soon as I had finished the pics I realised I had forgotten to attach the pair of aerials I had made.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48071441971_cc6410b0f8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geUGV2)T-80 AEV - 21 of 21 (https://flic.kr/p/2geUGV2) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: Old Wombat on June 16, 2019, 02:39:36 am
And here's me thinking the PDRV was a Nuclear Free Zone! :o


Curse that PDRV state-owned media & its Professional Propaganda Apparatchiks! :angry:



Nice little build, by the way! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: zenrat on June 16, 2019, 02:46:23 am
Thanks Womby.

In the PDRV time line even Sky Pirates have nukes...
 :wacko:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2019, 02:53:41 am

Capable of firing a wide range of munitions including white phosphorus, anti personnel air burst, rocket boosted penetration and nuclear demolition charges.


.....and dustbins?  :o
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: zenrat on June 16, 2019, 03:20:04 am

Capable of firing a wide range of munitions including white phosphorus, anti personnel air burst, rocket boosted penetration and nuclear demolition charges.


.....and dustbins?  :o

The local equivalent of.

Churchill AVRE petard mortars were 290mm.  I would have made mine the same if I had bothered to look it up.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2019, 06:21:57 am
Come out well mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2019, 04:28:06 am
Thanks Chris.
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: Dizzyfugu on June 17, 2019, 04:49:17 am
Cool.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: Weaver on June 17, 2019, 04:49:35 am
Looking good. :thumbsup:

I thought the gun barrel might be a bit much for the low-profile T-80 turret when you were building it, but now I reckon it works. Probably only carrier half-a-dozen rounds though, right? ;)
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2019, 05:38:18 am
Thanks H.

The 280mm mortar had a shorter breech than the standard 2A46 125mm gun.  This enabled greater elevation.  There was storage for 10 rounds.

Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: Captain Canada on June 25, 2019, 05:20:37 am
Very nice job on that one ! Hard to believe you made it so quick. Love the mortar. makes it look like a space tank.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-80 AEV - Finished pics page 2
Post by: zenrat on June 25, 2019, 05:25:51 am
Thanks Cap'n.

Hmmm, space tank...