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Title: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 14, 2019, 03:33:08 pm
Having just polished off my first car build for many a long year, I'm straight into doing another one!  :o

My younger daughter's (Did you know she was the RAF's................Ah, OK.......... ;D) husband is as much a car nut as me, and until recently his daily drive was a 2005 Ford Mustang GT, a machine of some considerable horsepower, like 350 or so, and also a similar fuel burn. As he now has to commute weekly from Shropshire to Hampshire and back the Mustang was hardly the optimum choice so he swapped it for a Ford Fiesta, albeit an ST.

As his birthday is fast approaching, it was decided that I would build him a model of the Mustang, and I had very little input in the discussion, the two sisters deemed it WOULD happen and who am I to argue such a point?  ;D

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/9785/rTzW1F.jpg)

This is the real thing.

So a suitable kit was obtained (luckily Revell do exactly the right year and model) at a bargain price, and here it is. Yeah, the box is a tad battered, but the plastic us perfect and as the box is one of those awful end opening things that Revell are using these days, it has a limited life, maybe a day or so!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1286/YmnZ0w.jpg)

I know I said I'd give modelling a bit of a break after the Caterham magnum opus, but I only lasted about 36 hrs before I just had to do SOMEthing!  ;D

So here's the parts layout, well packed IMHO, and I'd already started on some assembly before I remembered to take some pics.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/3386/yNFaZA.jpg)

The model will be black of course, so it'll show up a lot better in later pics.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/440/BC5G5H.jpg)

The engine part built. It's a hefty thing with that MASSIVE intake manifold on the top.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on April 15, 2019, 03:42:36 am
Right hand drive?
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 15, 2019, 04:47:28 am

Right hand drive?


Luckily no, Dean's car is an LHD one, before they started building the RHD versions later on.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on April 15, 2019, 04:52:48 am
That's good.  Accurately converting the dash would have been hard.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 15, 2019, 08:57:54 am

That's good.  Accurately converting the dash would have been hard.


Tell me about it!  :banghead:

I'm trying to do just that with a Tamiya Volvo 850 Estate to model one that I ran myself for 2.5 yrs, and it only comes in LHD form as standard.

They also do the BTCC version of the car which is RHD, but the dash is nothing like the road car. :(
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 16, 2019, 02:12:17 pm
I've got the first colour coats on now, and because of the rather odd assembly schedule I had to do this quite early in the build process. And yes, the interior of the car really was a pale cream colour!  :o

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/6615/G1CCwl.jpg)

The main bits painted up, I forgot to paint the bonnet at the same time as the body...........
  :banghead:


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8127/dbFVOT.jpg)

Interior of the real thing.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on April 17, 2019, 02:52:06 am
i hope not painting the bonnet at the same time as the body doesn't bite you in the arse.
I try to do them together in order to avoid any possible issues of different shades.
Should be OK with black though.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 17, 2019, 03:23:55 am
I'm surprised how many different 'blacks' there are on the full size car, on the interior anyway.

And re your bare metal technique, there's only two items on the car that look as if they'll need that, the 'pony' on the grille and the MONSTER boot (trunk....) lock on the tail. The GT badges in the wings (fenders....) aren't moulded and are supplied as decals.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 19, 2019, 09:35:12 am
I've started on spraying the various different blacks etc. I've found that not only do Halfords sell Gloss and Matt Black, but they also sell Satin Black too. Even better, they sell a matt varnish, something I've never seen there before.  :thumbsup:

The matt varnish sprayed over the gloss black gives a different finish to the matt black, just what I need.  ;D

Pics later on when it's dried hopefully.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 19, 2019, 02:22:45 pm
I should have bought shares in Tamiya's masking tape division before I started this job.........

Masking up the main body shell to paint the roof lining the correct shade took MILES of tape, and doing the same to get the floor carpet shade correct for the interior took almost as much!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6396/tRvP2R.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/576/3Q6Vf3.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1017/3mHIem.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on April 20, 2019, 02:17:13 am
Even better, they sell a matt varnish, something I've never seen there before.  :thumbsup:


Oh, that's interesting Kit. Next time I go past I shall pop in. It's worth a try
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 20, 2019, 09:12:22 am
Even better, they sell a matt varnish, something I've never seen there before.  :thumbsup:


Oh, that's interesting Kit. Next time I go past I shall pop in. It's worth a try


It's not displayed in the same rack as the umpteen coloured car paints Chris, it's where they have the other paints, domestic and very high temperature stuff.

I've tried it now and it's pretty good, but I'd call it semi-matt compared to stuff like Humbrol Dull Cote.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 20, 2019, 03:07:38 pm
After all the masking business on the interior it looks like this, but there's a small amount of detail masking and painting to do still.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6802/1MRNEd.jpg)

It never ceases to amaze me what stupid names the motor industry chose for their colours, the carpet and parcel shelf shade I've used on this one is called 'Peugeot Antelope Beige', for goodness sake!  :-\
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on April 21, 2019, 05:59:38 am

It's not displayed in the same rack as the umpteen coloured car paints Chris, it's where they have the other paints, domestic and very high temperature stuff.

I've tried it now and it's pretty good, but I'd call it semi-matt compared to stuff like Humbrol Dull Cote.

Cheers Kit
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 22, 2019, 04:18:21 am
Thais was going pretty well, and then............

Having got the main body shell sprayed up in very shiny black paint, I had to paint the rooflining and the interior and the various door posts the pale cream colour that Ford used for the 'leather work'. That went fine so I tested the fit of the floor pan etc. and in the process ended up with the trace of a thumb print on the boot (trunk) lid!  :banghead:

Quite how the lid part hadn't dried when all the rest had I've no idea, but there it is.

Try how I might I can NOT get rid of that thumbprint, I've sanded and sprayed and sanded and sprayed sanded and sprayed till I'm blue in the face (EIGHT coats so far!) but I can still see it.

Anyone any good ideas how to get around this please?
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: rickshaw on April 22, 2019, 04:37:08 am
Thais was going pretty well, and then............

Having got the main body shell sprayed up in very shiny black paint, I had to paint the rooflining and the interior and the various door posts the pale cream colour that Ford used for the 'leather work'. That went fine so I tested the fit of the floor pan etc. and in the process ended up with the trace of a thumb print on the boot (trunk) lid!  :banghead:

Quite how the lid part hadn't dried when all the rest had I've no idea, but there it is.

Try how I might I can NOT get rid of that thumbprint, I've sanded and sprayed and sanded and sprayed sanded and sprayed till I'm blue in the face (EIGHT coats so far!) but I can still see it.

Anyone any good ideas how to get around this please?

Strip the paint and respray is what I'd recommend...   :banghead:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 22, 2019, 05:19:59 am
Thais was going pretty well, and then............

Having got the main body shell sprayed up in very shiny black paint, I had to paint the rooflining and the interior and the various door posts the pale cream colour that Ford used for the 'leather work'. That went fine so I tested the fit of the floor pan etc. and in the process ended up with the trace of a thumb print on the boot (trunk) lid!  :banghead:

Quite how the lid part hadn't dried when all the rest had I've no idea, but there it is.

Try how I might I can NOT get rid of that thumbprint, I've sanded and sprayed and sanded and sprayed sanded and sprayed till I'm blue in the face (EIGHT coats so far!) but I can still see it.

Anyone any good ideas how to get around this please?

Strip the paint and respray is what I'd recommend...   :banghead:


I was hoping to avoid something as radical as that......

Just stripping the boot (trunk...) lid might work if I can limit the area of stripping well enough. Masking and spraying all that interior stuff took an AGE and I really don't want to do it all again.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on April 23, 2019, 09:55:52 pm
Ah, fingerprints in what was seemingly dry paint.  I feel your pain.
Is it in the clear or in the paint?  If it's in the clear then sometimes you can polish it out.  Heat generated by the polishing process "melts" the clear and smoothes everything out.
Or, let it gas out completely (get on with some other bits in the meantime) and then sand it right back.  If you can do this on just the boot lid area then the respray should hopefully not be too obvious as there is a natural boundary where the panel line gaps are.

However, sometimes you just have to say "f**k it", stamp your feet, break something else and then chuck the whole body into the stripping tank and start again.  Black is a very unforgiving colour so maybe this might be the best approach.  Can you not brush paint the roof liner?  Less masking that way...
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 12:18:26 am

However, sometimes you just have to say "f**k it", stamp your feet, break something else and then chuck the whole body into the stripping tank and start again.  Black is a very unforgiving colour so maybe this might be the best approach.  Can you not brush paint the roof liner?  Less masking that way...


I'm close to that situation now, the body has been tail down in a Tupperware bottle of Dettol all night, the Dettol measured out so it only comes up to the front end of the boot (trunk...) lid. I'll see if it worked in a short while.

Yes, I could have brush painted the roof lining, but once you get into that 'mask-spray-demask' routine it gets habit forming.  ;D
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 02:42:56 am
The 'Dettol Trick' worked like a charm, the paint literally FELL off!  :thumbsup:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1739/DIwfTb.jpg)

Here's the bodyshell in the Dettol stripping tank. I suspect that the tank's job in life has now irrevocably changed.......  ;)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/7836/hOTq2v.jpg)

As seen directly after removal from the stripping tank. The red outline shows where my thumbprint was, and you can just see a trace of it left.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2008/YL4i32.jpg)

But after a session with an old toothbrush and plenty of water it's totally gone, and so has all the paint, primer as well.

It's left it slightly sticky so I plan to give it a rub over with some thinners before re-priming and re-painting it. Luckily I can mask off on the door panel lines and the rear edge of the roof so there shouldn't be too much of a paint line showing.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: loupgarou on April 24, 2019, 04:48:42 am
Excuse me, Kit. I had never heard of Dettol. From google it's an entire range of products.
Which is the one you used? Or what's the active component?
thanks
Paolo
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 05:21:24 am

Excuse me, Kit. I had never heard of Dettol. From google it's an entire range of products.
Which is the one you used? Or what's the active component?
thanks
Paolo


Erm, good question. In the UK it tends to mean their original disinfectant stuff, but I'll have a look on the bottle and see if it says what the constituents are.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Rick Lowe on April 24, 2019, 05:25:42 am
An interesting alternative to Simple Green for stripping paint; though both are now available here, so that's nice.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: kitnut617 on April 24, 2019, 06:17:13 am
A bit off-topic but I need to strip the paint off my 1/72 B-36 but without it getting into the interior (I painted it about 20 years ago and the silver still hasn't dried properly, every time I pick it up there's more finger prints on it), what would you suggest there Kit ?
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on April 24, 2019, 06:27:36 am
I had know idea Dettol would do that  :blink: and to think it's my regular disinfectant and has been applied to many a part  :o
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 07:40:16 am

A bit off-topic but I need to strip the paint off my 1/72 B-36 but without it getting into the interior (I painted it about 20 years ago and the silver still hasn't dried properly, every time I pick it up there's more finger prints on it), what would you suggest there Kit ?


Good question Robert.

Trying to de-paint JUST the outside could be a real problem, unless you can seal it all up very securely. There used to be some paste that you applied with a wide brush some years ago, but I've not seen that for ages now.

I doubt the Dettol idea wouldn't work as it takes time so brushing or spraying it on wouldn't let it lie on the surface long enough.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 07:41:19 am

I had know idea Dettol would do that  :blink: and to think it's my regular disinfectant and has been applied to many a part  :o


Nor did I Chris. My railway modelling buddie suggested it as he'd 'heard it from a friend' etc. and both the friend and he were dead right.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: kitnut617 on April 24, 2019, 08:47:22 am

A bit off-topic but I need to strip the paint off my 1/72 B-36 but without it getting into the interior (I painted it about 20 years ago and the silver still hasn't dried properly, every time I pick it up there's more finger prints on it), what would you suggest there Kit ?


Good question Robert.

Trying to de-paint JUST the outside could be a real problem, unless you can seal it all up very securely. There used to be some paste that you applied with a wide brush some years ago, but I've not seen that for ages now.

I doubt the Dettol idea wouldn't work as it takes time so brushing or spraying it on wouldn't let it lie on the surface long enough.

Thanks Kit, I bought a long time ago some pots of ModelStrip, got it from Hannants I think. I've not used it because try as I might, I've not found any reviews on the stuff. Not sure if it will even work now I've had them so long.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 10:52:13 am
It looks like the main ingredient in Dettol is Chloroxylenol 4.8% w/v and it also contains Pine oil, Isopropyl Alcohol,  Castor Oil, Caustic Soda Solution (:o), Caramel and water.

It says 'DO NOT USE UNDILUTED', which I did of course.....

But then it also says 'Read the package leaflet before use' except it wasn't in a package, it's just a bottle.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: loupgarou on April 24, 2019, 12:48:30 pm
Thanks, Kit.Now I know whattolook for.
I have a suspicion that the caustic soda is the helpful ingredient in this case, maybe helped by the chloroxilenol.
But I would not like to use a caustic soda solution as di  :osinfectant on my body...
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 02:50:09 pm

Thanks, Kit.Now I know whattolook for.
I have a suspicion that the caustic soda is the helpful ingredient in this case, maybe helped by the chloroxilenol.
But I would not like to use a caustic soda solution as di  :osinfectant on my body...


Nor me!  :o

And I recall the stuff was always around when I was young and my Mum using it for EVERYthing! It may already be too late for me...........

I'll be wearing rubber gloves the next time I have to strip any paint off a model.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Old Wombat on April 25, 2019, 03:15:38 am
Why not caustic soda? :unsure:

You can use just about any strong acid or alkali as a disinfectant, as long as it's diluted enough not to burn.

Hydrogen peroxide is a great disinfectant, which has the benefit of dissolving dead tissue, too. Just have to remember not to use it on open, bleeding wounds, as it can fizz up your blood & do nasty things if it gets into your blood stream.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 25, 2019, 03:59:23 am
This is all getting a tad medical for me.............

Going back to the Mustang, the re-prime and first colour coat went on a treat, and it looks like the thumbprint has finally gone.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on April 25, 2019, 06:18:01 am
It looks like the main ingredient in Dettol is Chloroxylenol 4.8% w/v and it also contains Pine oil, Isopropyl Alcohol,  Castor Oil, Caustic Soda Solution (:o), Caramel and water.


Ah good old Isopropyl Alcohol, gets everywhere. It's the Caramel that has my brain thinking ?

I do remember Modelstrip from many years ago which I used to remove some paint from plastic figures as well as a couple of kits. It worked well, but was very messy.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 25, 2019, 07:05:39 am
Hmmmm, well.................

While the re-spayed rear end of the Mustang looks OK in isolation, when it's compared to the rest of the car it's TOO good!  :banghead:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8263/kNCJ8q.jpg)

I've enhanced the contrast on this pic to show what I mean, but you can clearly see the difference between the new paint behind the door shut line and that in front of it.

I'll just have to re-spray the whole thing and then re-do all the interior stuff too. Now I've lost a whole week, damn it. :(
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Old Wombat on April 25, 2019, 07:32:05 am
Can't you just mask the interior stuff when you paint the exterior? :unsure:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Rheged on April 25, 2019, 07:36:38 am
It looks like the main ingredient in Dettol is Chloroxylenol 4.8% w/v and it also contains Pine oil, Isopropyl Alcohol,  Castor Oil, Caustic Soda Solution (:o), Caramel and water.


Ah good old Isopropyl Alcohol, gets everywhere. It's the Caramel that has my brain thinking ?

I do remember Modelstrip from many years ago which I used to remove some paint from plastic figures as well as a couple of kits. It worked well, but was very messy.

I think the caramel is burnt sugar colouring.  I concur with your remark about Modelstrip; it works well, makes a considerable mess AND gets you into heavy duty   bother with the domestic authorities.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 25, 2019, 07:43:10 am

Can't you just mask the interior stuff when you paint the exterior? :unsure:


Not now, there's been some overspray got in there, so I'll give Fred's brush painting a go second time around, it's bound to be faster than all that masking business.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 25, 2019, 11:25:54 pm
NOW we're cooking with gas!  ;D

The Mustang looks a lot better with a new, all over couple of coats of black, and she just needs the interior paint re-done, but this time with a brush and minimal masking.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/1370/81JLRF.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on April 26, 2019, 03:01:47 am
Caustic Soda solution will also dissolve bone.

That looks good Kit.  Just be carefull handling it now...
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on April 26, 2019, 06:26:08 am
Caustic Soda solution will also dissolve bone.


For some reason you have twigged memories of my O Level Biology paper ???????  :unsure:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 09, 2019, 03:28:08 pm
Mucho internal brush painting, and the addition of some scale carpet as a head lining (it's the same colour as the carpet on the RW car) and the interior of the body shell's done. After a false start using Halfords Clear Lacquer, which looked as if I'd painted the car with 400 grit wet and dry  :banghead: I re-glossed it with the Kristal Klear Acrylic that I use to varnish my decals.

Now it looks like it's made from black glass and it's the very devil to photograph, but here it is anyway.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2655/UgXm7E.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9933/JDFmln.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on May 10, 2019, 02:51:32 am
That's black for you.  A bar steward to paint and a bar steward to photograph.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 10, 2019, 03:18:36 am

That's black for you.  A bar steward to paint and a bar steward to photograph.


Very true, it's the first black car kit I've ever done.

I'm almost glad I didn't get really going on my JPS Racing Team build, that would have been 4-500% more black than the Mustang!  :o

But the bits are still there on the project shelf looming over me..............
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on May 10, 2019, 03:27:00 am
IIRC John Player Special Lights were in a white pack with silver logos.  You could paint it up like that...
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 16, 2019, 05:14:13 pm
Got the interior all painted up, carpeted (!) and assembled. Just missing the 'Mustang' badge from the steering wheel centre, mainly because I can't find the decal sheet.  :banghead: But I did scan it before the build started.  ;)

Note the added seat belt assemblies, I'm getting to be a dab hand at doing them by now.  ;D

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7754/DMPR6o.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 17, 2019, 12:53:09 am
The belts help dress things up nicely.

The build is coming along really well.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 17, 2019, 02:06:53 am

The belts help dress things up nicely.

The build is coming along really well.  :thumbsup:


They do indeed, but hardly any manufacturers mould the belts into the model, very odd. Revell mould the swivels into the top of the B posts but that's all.

And thanks, I'm getting pleased with it now the parts are coming together.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 17, 2019, 02:13:23 am
Yeah, even if they took a leaf out of Airfix's book and gave you a small section of 5 thou and let you cut your own, with pe hardware.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on May 17, 2019, 04:12:23 am
Very few mass produced 1/24 or 1/25 car kits bother with any interior detail above dash level apart from rear view mirrors, the occasional crudely moulded sun visors and every so often an interior light dome.
Some do though.  AMT did a '41 Ford Woody with separate interior sidewalls and roofliner.  Needless to say these are a complete female canine to fit with the "glass" sandwiched between them and the body.

Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: sykotik on May 17, 2019, 07:46:57 am
great work on the interior! Those belts do look rather good
For paint remover,Tamiya Lacquer thinner works well and so does Testors ELO (if you can find any that is). The only draw back to ELO is it also dissolves glue but as it's a body, it should be fine
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 19, 2019, 02:19:43 pm
Got some front end work done tonight, the engine and front suspension are in place now. While the engine slots in nicely, the  front crossmember, steering rack, springs and anti-roll bar are designed by a sadist!  :banghead:

It's actually impossible to fit the anti-roll bar the way it's drawn in the instructions, and it may be impossible any other way too. If so I'll make one from brass wire and glue it in place.

The engine's got a fair amount of detail piping and wiring to add now that it's in place, and hopefully the rear suspension will go in after I've painted and fitted the exhaust system in the next few days.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2667/KgFoVx.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2453/AzmuYY.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Old Wombat on May 19, 2019, 06:46:32 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2019, 04:57:15 pm
I'm ploughing through all the fine detail stuff on the 'Stang, and the rear suspension is now all in place, but the bits don't fit too well. In fact the Panhard rod doesn't fit at all as it's moulded and needed some serious 'cutting and shutting' before I could get it even vaguely in the correct place.

I've started on the engine plumbing and wiring, and that takes ages waiting for the glue to dry, but I'm getting there.

I thought I'd fit the windows now, as the main body shell is done, only to find that all the glass parts have a black outline. Checking with daughter #2 it seems it's painted on the INSIDE!  :banghead:

So I had to mask off the whole lot, and the rear window masking job is shown below, and it was the first time I used that bendy tape that Tamiya make. I'm not too sure about it, it's NOTHING like their usual tape, but we'll see how it works when I strip it all off.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8365/SXF0XN.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on June 01, 2019, 02:01:40 am
and it was the first time I used that bendy tape that Tamiya make. I'm not too sure about it, it's NOTHING like their usual tape, but we'll see how it works when I strip it all off.


Must admit my jury is still out on it. Be interested to hear your views.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on June 01, 2019, 04:20:06 am
I use black texter (permanent marker) to do the black bits on modern windows.  No masking, I draw it on free hand - carefully.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 01, 2019, 05:20:53 am
Hmmmm, not so good. :(

I got some paint bleed under the bendy tape and I've had to clean it up with the 'cocktail stick and thinners' method. Perhaps I should have burnished it down harder?

In any case it all needs another coat as some of it is 'see-thru'.

I'm not sure I could do that freehand Fred, but I may have a go on one of the small quarter windows.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on June 01, 2019, 06:12:29 am
Do some tests before hand as I am not 100% sure, but I think methylated spirits will remove premenant marker off the "glass" if it goes wrong.
Do the windows have frosted areas where the black goes?
Freehand texter is definitely better than freehand paintbrush.  I find chisel tip markers best.

I have some Tamiya bendy tape and I remain to be completely convinced by it having had some failures on textured/detailed surfaces.  It has it's place and should be OK on a smooth surface like a window but it does need to be burnished very well and being soft it is easy to deform the edge when doing so.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 01, 2019, 08:05:25 am
Yes, all four windows have a lightly frosted area to show what should be black.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: strobez on June 01, 2019, 08:17:44 am
Iíve been eyeing that Tamiya tape as well. Nice to see someone else try it out first! 
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on June 02, 2019, 01:38:24 am

I got some paint bleed under the bendy tape and I've had to clean it up with the 'cocktail stick and thinners' method. Perhaps I should have burnished it down harder?


That's been my experience as well. It really does need to be heavily burnished and I'm not sure even that will give you a perfect finish ??
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2019, 12:50:22 pm

I got some paint bleed under the bendy tape and I've had to clean it up with the 'cocktail stick and thinners' method. Perhaps I should have burnished it down harder?


That's been my experience as well. It really does need to be heavily burnished and I'm not sure even that will give you a perfect finish ??


Hmmm, could be the coat of Klear over the edge of the tape before applying the colour maybe?
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on June 03, 2019, 06:29:45 am

Hmmm, could be the coat of Klear over the edge of the tape before applying the colour maybe?

I've done that with "normal" Tamiya tape on the odd occasion, you just have to be careful it doesn't leave a highly visible ridge. Hadn't thought of trying it with the bendy tape, might give it a go. Cheers Kit  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 06, 2019, 02:06:54 pm
LOTS more success with Fred Zenrat's idea of using a permanent marker and in conjunction with both sorts of Tamiya tape.  :thumbsup:

I did each edge of the windscreen in separate sessions, giving the marker ink time to dry off between sessions. The bendy tape worked a treat so long as I burnished it down REALLY well with a pointed wooden dowel.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5336/nTOmzP.jpg)

Sadly my original attempt on the rear window would seem to be irrecoverable, and that, as well as few small parts lost to the Carpet Monster, caused me to buy another kit of the same car.....  :-\

No, I have NO idea what I'll do with the rest of the 2nd kit, but I doubt it will look much like the first one!  ;D

Oh yes, more of the dreaded engine plumbing got done tonight, and it's nearing the end of what's practical. Modern day cars have SO many wires and pipes it's not really practical to model them all, but I've done the larger ones.

So soon it'll be time to squidge the interior into the body shell, which I've done a few times before and it's not easy. It needs 1/24 scale shoe horns to get the ends into position, but you can tell when it's there as there's a loud CLICK and everything lines up.  ;D

['Squidge' is a technical car modelling term meaning to squash smaller bits into such a shape that they fit inside the larger part without breaking...............hopefully. Fred Zenrat will know just what I mean.  ;)]
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Old Wombat on June 06, 2019, 07:19:30 pm
We-ell, if you snuck over to BtS right now, you could turn it into an aquacar/hydrocar for the Floaty GB I'm moderating right now. ;)

I really need some more entrants! :-\

When you just have the moderator entering builds it's a bit embarrassing! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on June 06, 2019, 09:59:41 pm
I know exactly what you mean Kit.
I also know the moment when you squidge just a bit too hard and instead of a click you get a crack.

Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 09, 2019, 02:24:24 pm

I also know the moment when you squidge just a bit too hard and instead of a click you get a crack.


Luckily I squidged just enough to get the inside inside the outside, if you see what I mean. And it didn't need any glue, not that I could have got any in there anyway, so it's just as well.

Windows are now in too, and the number plates are on and it just needs the wheels and a few more decals and it's done.  ;D

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1250/CCknAu.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7130/h3QzcV.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3654/1HIcsI.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/408/BYeCdU.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on June 10, 2019, 04:37:37 am
Looking good Kit.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: loupgarou on June 10, 2019, 08:18:02 am
Verygood.
And which is the next family member that wants a kit of his/hers car?  ;D
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2019, 08:48:15 am

Verygood.
And which is the next family member that wants a kit of his/hers car?  ;D


If there is one, they've had it! I want to get back to building Whiffs!

It's got wheels now..............

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/3137/vWqrsc.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 17, 2019, 11:30:06 pm
Now the Mustang's done, and 9 days before the deadline.  ;D

All decals on, light lenses painted on the inside (what a pain THAT is!) final gloss coat added, and it's fitted into its case.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2100/oLIBlS.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2430/nA2j1l.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7240/OdCqkf.jpg)

Now I can get back to some proper Whiffing. Do I finish off some of my umpteen unfinished projects or start something new?
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Gondor on June 18, 2019, 01:30:27 am

Now the Mustang's done, and 9 days before the deadline.  ;D

Now I can get back to some proper Whiffing. Do I finish off some of my umpteen unfinished projects or start something new?


Both!

Gondor
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on June 18, 2019, 01:59:51 am
Looks good Kit.
 :thumbsup:

Start some new ones.
 :wacko:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: NARSES2 on June 18, 2019, 06:04:19 am
Looks nice Kit
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: scooter on June 18, 2019, 06:55:23 am
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1250/CCknAu.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7130/h3QzcV.jpg)

Although, you should have had it up on scale cinder blocks in these shots. :wacko:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 18, 2019, 09:33:24 am

Although, you should have had it up on scale cinder blocks in these shots. :wacko:


Hehehe, nice one.  :thumbsup:

It was a bit of a pain getting the wheels to stay on, so it may REALLY have ended up like that!
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: loupgarou on June 18, 2019, 10:33:09 am
Beautiful!
Did you screw/glue/fix somewhat the car to the base, to avoid unpleasant accidents during handling?
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 18, 2019, 10:37:06 am

Beautiful!
Did you screw/glue/fix somewhat the car to the base, to avoid unpleasant accidents during handling?


I did the same as I did with the Caterham, I drilled holes in the base and inserted short 1mm wire pins that stuck up about 4-5 mm, and then drilled larger holes in the tyres to accept the pins. Because the rubber needs larger holes as it contracts after drilling, it grips the pins and the model stays on the base, usually...........
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 25, 2019, 12:01:53 pm
Well that didn't work worth a damn as the Revell kit's rubber tyres are far too soft for the pins to grip, so onto Plan B.  :banghead:

I drilled larger holes in the base and countersunk the undersides and then put two larger countersunk self-tappers through and screwed them into the tyres! It worked pretty well until the self-tappers hit up against the hubs, so I drilled them as well!  ;D

Now you can hold the base upside with the Mustang hanging from it, not that I'll recommend it for display purposes!  :-\

The presentation's on Thursday evening and I hope to get a couple of pics then.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Rick Lowe on August 26, 2019, 01:56:03 am
Any word on the presentation, Kit?

That came out really nicely!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 26, 2019, 04:38:32 am
Oh sorry, I forgot to post the presentation pics.

First the un-veiling......

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9701/ZSZ5NK.jpg)


And then the close investigation.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/6284/c2S8El.jpg)
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: zenrat on August 26, 2019, 04:40:50 am
Another satisfied customer.  Well done.
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Old Wombat on August 26, 2019, 05:14:41 am
Aced it! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yet another RW car build!
Post by: Rick Lowe on August 26, 2019, 11:34:45 am
Great!  :thumbsup: