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Title: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 01, 2019, 06:12:32 am
Right it's that time of year again and I am asking for suggestions for subjects to be included in this year's Group Build Poll, which I will hold in May.

Any and all suggestions will  be included, although I may well combine similar ones to give them more of a chance. I did last year and one of my "combinations" is currently running  ;D

Please remember that for the first time this year GB subjects from the previous two seasons are excluded from the Poll. This is as per the members vote last year.

Anyway, thinking caps on lads and get suggesting.

Chris
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Old Wombat on April 01, 2019, 07:48:33 am
So, those not allowed this year are:

Sci Fi

Flying boat, seaplane and amphibian

Cold War

RAF 100

Racing

The V/STOL/Rotary Wing/Ornithopter/Ekranoplane/Ground Effect vehicles/Heli-planes (a.k.a. Flying Machines of Unconventional Means)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Old Wombat on April 01, 2019, 08:00:25 am
1) South East Asia (can be time/event-stamped, eg: 1918-1939, WW2, 1945-1975, Korean War, Vietnam War, etc., if preferred)

2) War in the Pacific (or just "The Pacific")

3) Former Republics of the Former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (or "Former Member States of the Warsaw Pact")

4) Singles Twinned & Twins Singled (twin-engined variants of single-engined aircraft or single-engined variants of twin-engined aircraft)

5) In the Navy (can be vehicles, boats, aircraft or figures as long as they're naval subjects)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Ed S on April 01, 2019, 03:38:01 pm
FIRSTS. The first of something in WHIF universe. First to the moon. First to the bottom of the sea. First to cross the Straits of Gibraltar.  You get the idea.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: sandiego89 on April 01, 2019, 08:01:08 pm
Two nominations:

1. “Means of propulsion”. Submit a subject that has a significant change in the means or type of propulsion: piston to turbine, sail to steam, horse to horseless, rotor to fixed, piston to turboprop, gas to electric, coal to nuclear, jet to rocket,  etc.

Changes using variation of the same mode of power NOT allowed: bigger engines, turbo/supercharger, adding more of the same engine, booster jets etc. 

2. “Out of retirement”. Bring a museum piece or retired type back into service. Type should be recognized as being out of major service, but perhaps some allowance for nearly retired types such as a target tug reverted back to front line service.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: kitbasher on April 02, 2019, 12:09:07 am
D-Day

Start of WW2 - not 1939 but what if the Munich Agreement never happened.

American military aviation if the Empire Loyalists had won.

What if the jet engine hadn't been invented.

Swords into ploughshares.

Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 02, 2019, 12:57:37 am
It's recurring, but I'd suggest "Africa" as an alternative to Asia. An overlooked continent with many exotic options.

And something simple and abstract: "Red". That's pretty free for interpretation and can be anything from a standard vehicle in a whiffy red livery, fire engines, Ferrari whifs, mecha galore, figures, maybe something Soviet from the Cold War era, or other weird ideas in... red.  ;)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 02, 2019, 02:21:48 am
The James Bond GB.

Make a what-if vehicle, building or gadget from a James Bond movie. It might be your alternative take on something from a real James Bond movie, or the movie itself might be the what-if, in which case you get to outline your own script, which might play it straight or be a parody.

The beauty of this is that, on the one hand, it has a sharp focus in order to concentrate minds and produce a coherent set of entries, but on the other hand, it's very inclusive of different modellers' preferences because it covers cars, planes, ships, spacecraft, buildings, and even 1/1 scale props, and can be entered by physical modellers, profilers and story writers.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 02, 2019, 02:34:09 am
I keep notes of potential GB subjects that occur to me throughout the year.

This year's list reads;

Stop That Pigeon GB - AKA Dastardly & Muttley in their flying machines GB.  Build something that would not look out of place in the cartoon - setting it in other wars is allowable.

Special Scheme GB.  The special schemes that never were (E.g. Luftwaffe BoB 75th anniversary Eurofighter) or RW special schemes transplanted to other aircraft (E.g. one of the more colourfull Japanese schemes on an RAF F-35) or a special scheme on something other than an aircraft (E.g. Agincourt commemorative scheme Centurion).

Armoured Vehicles GB.  Armoured cars, armoured trucks, armoured trains, armoured boats, armoured aircraft.  Take a vehicle and add armour.

Simply the best GB.  Build it and justify it  Biggest, fastest, highest, deepest, most expensive...

Purple GB.  Same concept as Dizz's Red idea.  Just with soundtrack by Prince.

Between the wars GB.  1920 to 1938.  Technology must fit with OTL.

Sports Team GB.  Paint something in the colours of your favourite team.

Latin/South America GB. 

Doctors and Nurses GB.  Ambulances, hospital ships, flying doctor...

Scaleorama GB.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 02, 2019, 05:02:02 am

Purple GB.  Same concept as Dizz's Red idea.  Just with soundtrack by Prince.


Hoots of laughter here in the FoD.  ;D ;D ;) ;)

A L'il Purple Corvette springs to mind.  ;)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 02, 2019, 05:39:20 am
I keep notes of potential GB subjects that occur to me throughout the year.

This year's list reads;

Stop That Pigeon GB - AKA Dastardly & Muttley in their flying machines GB.  Build something that would not look out of place in the cartoon - setting it in other wars is allowable.

You could combine that with Wacky Races to let the land vehicle modellers play too...
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 02, 2019, 05:51:05 am
Oh what fertile minds you all have, we are up to 25 all ready.


Between the wars GB.  1920 to 1938.  Technology must fit with OTL.


Can I just be clear about what you mean by OTL Fred ?

I assume it's Our Time Line, but do you mean you can only use technology that was available during the period 1920-1938 ? Or do you mean using any technology that has been available to date ? I think I know which, but I'd like to be sure.

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 02, 2019, 06:27:56 am
I don't normally suggest anything for this on the grounds that I run the Poll, but this year as the idea I've had is so all encompassing I thought I would.

So - The build anything as long as it can't/doesn't/was never intended to fly GB
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Nick on April 02, 2019, 07:12:13 am
I don't normally suggest anything for this on the grounds that I run the Poll, but this year as the idea I've had is so all encompassing I thought I would.

So - The build anything as long as it can't/doesn't/was never intended to fly GB

I already have an idea for that!  ;D

I like the fixed colour idea, Red or Purple.

Africa or South America would be good. Latin America too, but haven't we done one of these recently?
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: kitbasher on April 02, 2019, 01:40:23 pm
I don't normally suggest anything for this on the grounds that I run the Poll, but this year as the idea I've had is so all encompassing I thought I would.

So - The build anything as long as it can't/doesn't/was never intended to fly GB

Ships then!  And to pre-empt the sm@r7@r5e5 no I don't mean airships.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 03, 2019, 03:14:49 am
Oh what fertile minds you all have, we are up to 25 all ready.


Between the wars GB.  1920 to 1938.  Technology must fit with OTL.


Can I just be clear about what you mean by OTL Fred ?

I assume it's Our Time Line, but do you mean you can only use technology that was available during the period 1920-1938 ? Or do you mean using any technology that has been available to date ? I think I know which, but I'd like to be sure.

Cheers

Chris

Yes, Our Time Line.
I meant that any technology used should have actually existed between 1920 and 1938.
For example. Merlin - yes (1933).  Griffon - no (1939).


Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 03, 2019, 03:29:41 am
Another idea.  Inspired by Tophe's F-14F SpareCat.

Parts Box GB.  Build something from spare parts.  50% by weight of the finished model must be from the parts box.  The rest can be scratchbuilt, aftermarket, kitbashed, found or whatever.  Almost impossible to police but I like to think we can all trust each other to be honest. 
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 03, 2019, 03:41:47 am

Another idea.  Inspired by Tophe's F-14F SpareCat.

Parts Box GB.  Build something from spare parts.  50% by weight of the finished model must be from the parts box.  The rest can be scratchbuilt, aftermarket, kitbashed, found or whatever.  Almost impossible to police but I like to think we can all trust each other to be honest.


We did that at Trent Plastic Modellers in the 80s, and we made one model from EVERYone's  spares box.  :o

The result was an ENORMOUS (like 3.5 feet long! :o) purple spaceship, looking like a cross between a Star Wars Star Destroyer and the 2001 Discovery One, and we used it to hang our club sign on at shows.  ;D

You can get very creative with that sort of thing.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 03, 2019, 03:48:11 am

Another idea.  Inspired by Tophe's F-14F SpareCat.

Parts Box GB.  Build something from spare parts.  50% by weight of the finished model must be from the parts box.  The rest can be scratchbuilt, aftermarket, kitbashed, found or whatever.  Almost impossible to police but I like to think we can all trust each other to be honest.


We did that at Trent Plastic Modellers in the 80s, and we made one model from EVERYone's  spares box.  :o

The result was an ENORMOUS (like 3.5 feet long! :o) purple spaceship, looking like a cross between a Star Wars Star Destroyer and the 2001 Discovery One, and we used it to hang our club sign on at shows.  ;D

You can get very creative with that sort of thing.  :thumbsup:

You could do a round-robin build like that, where each member adds, say, half-a-dozen spares box pieces each, and then posts it on the next member.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 03, 2019, 04:13:26 am

Another idea.  Inspired by Tophe's F-14F SpareCat.

Parts Box GB.  Build something from spare parts.  50% by weight of the finished model must be from the parts box.  The rest can be scratchbuilt, aftermarket, kitbashed, found or whatever.  Almost impossible to police but I like to think we can all trust each other to be honest.


We did that at Trent Plastic Modellers in the 80s, and we made one model from EVERYone's  spares box.  :o

The result was an ENORMOUS (like 3.5 feet long! :o) purple spaceship, looking like a cross between a Star Wars Star Destroyer and the 2001 Discovery One, and we used it to hang our club sign on at shows.  ;D

You can get very creative with that sort of thing.  :thumbsup:

You could do a round-robin build like that, where each member adds, say, half-a-dozen spares box pieces each, and then posts it on the next member.

Good idea, but how do we decide who has to do the PSR?
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Modelling_Mushi on April 03, 2019, 04:38:36 am
A few thoughts:

1. The Guvmint's Run Out of Money GB - ridiculously extended airframe lifetimes
2. The Noone Loves Monoplanes GB - monoplanes converted to biplanes, triplanes, sesqui-planes
3. The Asymmetrically Perfect GB - whatever it is (aircraft, vehicle, ship, space invader) there is no symmetry around any axis
4. The Edsel Memorial GB - glorious, ridiculous, ugly failures
 . . .
6. The Leonardo Da Vinci GB - all means of propulsion, flight or fighting are based on his ideas

Ciao
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Nick on April 03, 2019, 04:57:46 am

Another idea.  Inspired by Tophe's F-14F SpareCat.

Parts Box GB.  Build something from spare parts.  50% by weight of the finished model must be from the parts box.  The rest can be scratchbuilt, aftermarket, kitbashed, found or whatever.  Almost impossible to police but I like to think we can all trust each other to be honest.


We did that at Trent Plastic Modellers in the 80s, and we made one model from EVERYone's  spares box.  :o

The result was an ENORMOUS (like 3.5 feet long! :o) purple spaceship, looking like a cross between a Star Wars Star Destroyer and the 2001 Discovery One, and we used it to hang our club sign on at shows.  ;D

You can get very creative with that sort of thing.  :thumbsup:

We can just send all the parts to Dizzy and give him 48 hours to solve the case to build the model!
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 03, 2019, 05:55:01 am
So, those not allowed this year are: Sci Fi : Flying boat, seaplane and amphibian : Cold War : RAF 100 : Racing : The V/STOL/Rotary Wing/Ornithopter/Ekranoplane/Ground Effect vehicles/Heli-planes (a.k.a. Flying Machines of Unconventional Means)

Indeed. Apologies I should have posted it.

Thank you Mr Wombat  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 03, 2019, 06:09:27 am

Africa or South America would be good. Latin America too, but haven't we done one of these recently?

Asiarama was back in 2013 and I have a memory of S America but a long time ago Nick.

Sign of getting old when you think something was a few years ago and it turns out to have been ten. Have to stop calling you Young Nick soon  :angel:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Mossie on April 03, 2019, 07:00:48 am
Wet Stuff GB.  Anything designed to operate on or in the water.  Carrier aircraft included.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: loupgarou on April 03, 2019, 07:06:25 am
Wet Stuff GB.  Anything designed to operate on or in the water.  Carrier aircraft included.

Including wet t-shirt contests?  ;D
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: JayBee on April 03, 2019, 09:13:40 am
Wet Stuff GB.  Anything designed to operate on or in the water.  Carrier aircraft included.

Including wet t-shirt contests?  ;D

Some people just live in hope!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Dingg on April 03, 2019, 09:34:52 am
Europe PPLS 1936-43  - Projects, prototypes & limited series.Maybe all countries, maybe only some.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Rheged on April 03, 2019, 01:02:49 pm
4. The Edsel Memorial GB - glorious, ridiculous, ugly failures

I do like the sound of this one. It might even combine with the Dick Dastardly/Wylie Coyote sort of vibe.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: kitbasher on April 03, 2019, 02:47:41 pm
Another idea.  Inspired by Tophe's F-14F SpareCat.

Parts Box GB.  Build something from spare parts.  50% by weight of the finished model must be from the parts box.  The rest can be scratchbuilt, aftermarket, kitbashed, found or whatever.  Almost impossible to police but I like to think we can all trust each other to be honest.

IIRC some years ago we had a scrapyard GB that this suggestion reminds me of.  It's a good idea.

Also how about 'swords into ploughshares' (done in the past I think) ot 'ploughshares into swords'?  And the latter wouldn't just be a case of impressed civil stuff but civil stuff repurposed into a military role. 
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 04, 2019, 05:50:40 am
4. The Edsel Memorial GB - glorious, ridiculous, ugly failures

I do like the sound of this one. It might even combine with the Dick Dastardly/Wylie Coyote sort of vibe.

Must admit I like it to, and was thinking of possibly linking it as per your suggestion to give it a better chance. We shall see.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 04, 2019, 05:54:21 am

Also how about 'swords into ploughshares' (done in the past I think) ot 'ploughshares into swords'?  And the latter wouldn't just be a case of impressed civil stuff but civil stuff repurposed into a military role.

Your getting old mate. You already nominated this on page 1  ;) Mind you in fairness you have since added the ploughshares into swords'   ;D

I may well combine them in the Poll
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: kitbasher on April 04, 2019, 09:59:54 am

Also how about 'swords into ploughshares' (done in the past I think) ot 'ploughshares into swords'?  And the latter wouldn't just be a case of impressed civil stuff but civil stuff repurposed into a military role.

Your getting old mate. You already nominated this on page 1  ;) Mind you in fairness you have since added the ploughshares into swords'   ;D

I may well combine them in the Poll

Ha ha ha!
I was
a) emphasising the suggestion.
b) making sure you're paying attention.

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.  Will be keeping an eye on you in future, mateyboy!  ;)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 05, 2019, 05:40:54 am

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.  Will be keeping an eye on you in future, mateyboy!  ;)

Yup. Those who live in glass houses etc :angel:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 05, 2019, 10:48:34 pm
The Earl(ier) Jets GB

We often see What-If scenarios where jet engines are never invented, thus giving an excuse for 'ultimate' prop-jobs to get into service. However, what if it was the other way around, and jets became practical up to ten years earlier? A lot of the delay in getting them into service was down to lack of support and funding, so you might imagine a scenario where governments get solidly behind them in the early 1930s, with the result that jet aircraft enter squadron service just before WWII starts.

There are some easy things you could do for this of course, such as Meteor/Vampire Mk.1s in green/brown cammo with black/white undersides, or operational He 280s. However there are also some more conceptual things to think about. The real-life early jets benefitted from experience gained on the brutal learning curve of the early years of WWII. Without that, if they were based on the mixture of right and wrong ideas knocking around in the late 1930s, what might they have looked like? Jet turret fighters? Jet three-seater 'fighter control' aircraft? Also, how many more Yak-15-style converted piston types with a jet in/under the nose would have appeared as first steps? Would the first Spitfire have been literally spitting fire?
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 06, 2019, 01:17:35 am
The Earl(ier) Jets GB

We often see What-If scenarios where jet engines are never invented, thus giving an excuse for 'ultimate' prop-jobs to get into service. However, what if it was the other way around, and jets became practical up to ten years earlier? A lot of the delay in getting them into service was down to lack of support and funding, so you might imagine a scenario where governments get solidly behind them in the early 1930s, with the result that jet aircraft enter squadron service just before WWII starts.

There are some easy things you could do for this of course, such as Meteor/Vampire Mk.1s in green/brown cammo with black/white undersides, or operational He 280s. However there are also some more conceptual things to think about. The real-life early jets benefitted from experience gained on the brutal learning curve of the early years of WWII. Without that, if they were based on the mixture of right and wrong ideas knocking around in the late 1930s, what might they have looked like? Jet turret fighters? Jet three-seater 'fighter control' aircraft? Also, how many more Yak-15-style converted piston types with a jet in/under the nose would have appeared as first steps? Would the first Spitfire have been literally spitting fire?

Excellent.  If this gets selected then I have an excuse to buy the Clear Prop Gloster E28/39.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: loupgarou on April 06, 2019, 01:39:44 am
The Earl(ier) Jets GB

We often see What-If scenarios where jet engines are never invented, thus giving an excuse for 'ultimate' prop-jobs to get into service. However, what if it was the other way around, and jets became practical up to ten years earlier? A lot of the delay in getting them into service was down to lack of support and funding, so you might imagine a scenario where governments get solidly behind them in the early 1930s, with the result that jet aircraft enter squadron service just before WWII starts.

There are some easy things you could do for this of course, such as Meteor/Vampire Mk.1s in green/brown cammo with black/white undersides, or operational He 280s. However there are also some more conceptual things to think about. The real-life early jets benefitted from experience gained on the brutal learning curve of the early years of WWII. Without that, if they were based on the mixture of right and wrong ideas knocking around in the late 1930s, what might they have looked like? Jet turret fighters? Jet three-seater 'fighter control' aircraft? Also, how many more Yak-15-style converted piston types with a jet in/under the nose would have appeared as first steps? Would the first Spitfire have been literally spitting fire?

With gull wings, fixed undercarriage and spats, obviously!  :wub:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 06, 2019, 03:18:25 am
The Three's Company GB.

We're always making up fictional countries and writing histories for them, but the history of companies can be just as interesting. The challenge therefore, is to make up a fictional manufacturing company, or radically alter the story of a real one, and then build three models that illustrate that history. It doesn't have to be aircraft and it doesn't have to be military: if you can make up an interesting bus company and find/scratch the models then go for it.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 21, 2019, 06:08:04 am
Right just over a week to go and then I'll collate the suggestions and organise the Poll
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 21, 2019, 06:36:15 am
The Weapons GB.

Another thing we're always doing is concentrating on the weapon platforms, rather than the weapons themselves, so how about a GB where the object is to build a what-if weapon? Eligible items might include missiles, bombs, rockets or guns (everything from small arms up to artillery pieces). The principle is that it should be a single-use device intended to cause damage or destruction to a target, and the element which does the destruction should be un-crewed (a gun is crewed but it's shells arn't), the exception being devices wherein the crew is supposed to die in the process, i.e. a suicide weapon like an Ohka.

The question arises: to what degree should launch vehicles be included in the build, i.e. if you build an anti-aircraft missile, can you build the launch vehicle it travels on? I would say yes, if the launch vehicle is single-purpose. That is to say, it has no purpose other than carrying and launching the weapons. Thus a tank chassis used as a SAM launcher would count, but a fighter plane carrying an ASM wouldn't, since the fighter plane can do other things too.

Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: sandiego89 on April 21, 2019, 07:30:52 am
I think there are some interesting anniversaries that could serve as themes:

2019: D-Day, 75th Anniversary of D-Day (modification of kitbashers nomination if ok kitbasher).  Build something that could have played a part in D-Day, sea, air, land, either side.

2019: Soccer War 50th Anniversary.  Build something in Central American service in the 1969 timeframe.

2020. Discovery of Antarctica 200th Anniversary.  Build something that could have operated in, near or over Antarctica.  Sea, air, land, ice.  Any time frame from 1820 to 2020.  Secret Nazi bases allowed, aliens not.     


Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: kitbasher on April 21, 2019, 12:19:34 pm
2019: D-Day, 75th Anniversary of D-Day (modification of kitbashers nomination if ok kitbasher).  Build something that could have played a part in D-Day, sea, air, land, either side.

Not a problem, it's exactly what I had in mind.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 22, 2019, 01:20:37 am
Oh, I can see a lot of BW stripes coming along...
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Rheged on April 23, 2019, 01:35:00 pm
The Three's Company GB.

We're always making up fictional countries and writing histories for them, but the history of companies can be just as interesting. The challenge therefore, is to make up a fictional manufacturing company, or radically alter the story of a real one, and then build three models that illustrate that history. It doesn't have to be aircraft and it doesn't have to be military: if you can make up an interesting bus company and find/scratch the models then go for it.

I could quite fancy this one.  Start with the Supermarine  Spitfire, go on to the Supermarine Scimitar, then the 1982 Supermarine Switchblade ( a swing wing carrier based strike aircraft)  the 1995 Supermarine Skean Dhu ( a small VTOL  strike fighter capable of being positioned on container vessels) and finally the Supermarine Stiletto of 2037, an exo-atmospheric interceptor of  the Royal Naval Air Service  Aerospace Command.   ...................and as for the sidearm, sickle, skewer, scythe , scalpel , sabre, spike, spear, slingshot, shotgun  and sword........ladies, gentlemen, fellow whiffers and other indeterminate sentient beings.............I await your ideas.  We haven't even touched on the civilian splendid, superb, sybarite or swan yet!   I might even try to write up a backstory for the company  for someone else more manually dextrous than me to transmute into styrene or resin.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 23, 2019, 02:03:29 pm
Alliteration Rules OK!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Captain Canada on April 23, 2019, 02:46:24 pm
I like that Arctic idea.

Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 23, 2019, 04:40:13 pm
Para-national GB:  Doesn't matter what you do... create anything... but it has to be affiliated with a nation that doesn't currently exist. Could be historic like the Roman Empire or a completely made up nation. 
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 23, 2019, 07:40:49 pm
...2020. Discovery of Antarctica 200th Anniversary.  Build something that could have operated in, near or over Antarctica.  Sea, air, land, ice.  Any time frame from 1820 to 2020.  Secret Nazi bases allowed, aliens not.     


Why is it always secret Nazi bases?  Why not a secret Japanese base?  Japan is much closer and could be supplied secretly under cover of whaling...

But I digress.


Camper van GB.  Convert anything into a camper van - car, ship, tank, aircraft.  I can already envisage a sky van with a pop-top and an awning...

Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 12:27:40 am

Camper van GB.  Convert anything into a camper van - car, ship, tank, aircraft.  I can already envisage a sky van with a pop-top and an awning...


Hehehehe, the mind BOGGLES!

Already I'm thinking of my 'melted' A Model Miles Aerovan with a sliding side door and an awning draped over one wing.  ;D
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 24, 2019, 04:08:49 am
...2020. Discovery of Antarctica 200th Anniversary.  Build something that could have operated in, near or over Antarctica.  Sea, air, land, ice.  Any time frame from 1820 to 2020.  Secret Nazi bases allowed, aliens not.     


Why is it always secret Nazi bases?  Why not a secret Japanese base?  Japan is much closer and could be supplied secretly under cover of whaling...

But I digress.


Camper van GB.  Convert anything into a camper van - car, ship, tank, aircraft.  I can already envisage a sky van with a pop-top and an awning...

There was a real-life heli-camper conversion for the S-55 promoted in the 1960s(?). Sold seven at most...

(https://stuckattheairport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1976Helihome-2.jpg)

https://stuckattheairport.com/2011/12/16/the-flying-winnebago/

Could see lots of alternatives/updates for that...
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2019, 04:59:58 am
Para-national GB:  Doesn't matter what you do... create anything... but it has to be affiliated with a nation that doesn't currently exist. Could be historic like the Roman Empire or a completely made up nation.

Royal Rutland Marines
The Grand Army of Sealand
Conch Republic Space Force
Nepalese Strategic Air Force
Micronesia Mining Engineer Corps
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: loupgarou on April 24, 2019, 12:43:36 pm
Para-national GB:  Doesn't matter what you do... create anything... but it has to be affiliated with a nation that doesn't currently exist. Could be historic like the Roman Empire or a completely made up nation.

Royal Rutland Marines
The Grand Army of Sealand
Conch Republic Space Force
Nepalese Strategic Air Force
Micronesia Mining Engineer Corps

Marine imperiale du Luxembourg
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 02:50:52 pm

Marine imperiale du Luxembourg


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2019, 02:52:28 pm
On a similar theme....

Dutch Mountain Rescue Organisation.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: loupgarou on April 24, 2019, 03:22:08 pm
On a similar theme....

Dutch Mountain Rescue Organisation.

Koninklijke Nederlandse bergreddingsorganisatie.
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Rheged on April 25, 2019, 01:55:55 am
Of course you could play mind games with the uneducated: - The Namib Desert Lifeboat Organisation.   A desert  lifeboat service, obviously a joke but...........................

Being geographically literate individuals, you will all be aware that part of the Namib Desert  is the so called "Skeleton Coast"; the deserted and highly treacherous shoreline  that makes up Namibia's Atlantic border
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 25, 2019, 02:30:59 am
Of course you could play mind games with the uneducated: - The Namib Desert Lifeboat Organisation.   A desert  lifeboat service, obviously a joke but...........................

Being geographically literate individuals, you will all be aware that part of the Namib Desert  is the so called "Skeleton Coast"; the deserted and highly treacherous shoreline that makes up Namibia's Atlantic border

On this principle, I once Googled "Nebraska Lighthouse" just to check that my silly idea really was silly, and I discovered that there actually are five...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 25, 2019, 03:05:39 am
Austria had (until 2006) an operational navy - with a few patrol ships for the Danube river!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/2010-07-20_0005_Wien02_Mexikoplatz_ex_OeBH-Patrouillenboot_Niederoesterreich.JPG/220px-2010-07-20_0005_Wien02_Mexikoplatz_ex_OeBH-Patrouillenboot_Niederoesterreich.JPG)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Old Wombat on April 25, 2019, 03:27:52 am
So did the Czechs:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Hl%C3%ADdkov%C3%A1_lo%C4%8F_President_Masaryk_%282%29.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakian_Naval_Forces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakian_Naval_Forces)
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 25, 2019, 03:57:24 am
On a similar theme....

Dutch Mountain Rescue Organisation.

Koninklijke Nederlandse bergreddingsorganisatie.


 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



Being geographically literate individuals, you will all be aware that part of the Namib Desert  is the so called "Skeleton Coast"; the deserted and highly treacherous shoreline  that makes up Namibia's Atlantic border


Tell me about it! I went there for a day trip once (yes, really...) and it sure is a desolate place. Mind you, I didn't know where I'd been until a while later..........
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: The Rat on April 25, 2019, 01:55:25 pm
Trikes and taildraggers: just what it says, take any aircraft and swap the landing gear arrangement. It's easy to change a tricycle gear to conventional, but a fair bit of surgery to go the other way. I'm sure Dizzyfugu could whip one up either way in a week.  ;D
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 25, 2019, 03:46:00 pm

 I'm sure Dizzyfugu could whip one up either way in a week.  ;D


As long as THAT?!  :o
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 26, 2019, 05:53:57 am
Trikes and taildraggers: just what it says, take any aircraft and swap the landing gear arrangement. It's easy to change a tricycle gear to conventional, but a fair bit of surgery to go the other way. I'm sure Dizzyfugu could whip one up either way in a week.  ;D

Neat idea Ratty. I've done it with a couple of types, one being the old Airfix DH Comet racer, and as you say it can be an interesting process turning it into a nose wheel jobby  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 26, 2019, 06:29:39 am
That's a tricky task...
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 27, 2019, 02:30:46 am
Right I'll be pulling the ideas together some time next week once the "request for suggestions" closes on the 30th April. Hopefully then I'll get the initial ideas up for comment before sorting the Poll out in the same way as last year. The Poll will then run for a couple of weeks with the first GB of the 2019/2020 Season opening on the 1st July.

The One Week Build will start on Saturday 8th June and finish on Sunday 16th June. I know that will clash with the inevitably extension to the current G.B. but if I'm honest I don't think that is to much of a problem as we've dealt with it that way before and it does mean I can keep to a schedule of the GB season running during a calendar year and not taking 13/14 months.

Things are a little tighter then I would like and that's down to me. I do have an excuse, but you know what they say about excuses ?  :rolleyes: Anyway I've made a note in my diary to kick the process off a little earlier next year, all being well.

Thanks again for your enthusiasm and patience.

Chris

Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: Weaver on April 27, 2019, 09:28:03 pm
Of course you could play mind games with the uneducated: - The Namib Desert Lifeboat Organisation.   A desert  lifeboat service, obviously a joke but...........................

Being geographically literate individuals, you will all be aware that part of the Namib Desert  is the so called "Skeleton Coast"; the deserted and highly treacherous shoreline that makes up Namibia's Atlantic border

On this principle, I once Googled "Nebraska Lighthouse" just to check that my silly idea really was silly, and I discovered that there actually are five...  :rolleyes:


Aaaaand then, out of nowhere, this appeared in my Twitter feed with no context:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D46TYc1XkAEHRpl.jpg)

Posted by Reverend Bark Cowcatcher, here: https://twitter.com/BCowcatcher/status/1120995406501097472
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 29, 2019, 05:48:48 am
...The One Week Build will start on Saturday 8th June and finish on Sunday 16th June...

Well how about that.  I appear to have a weeks leave booked and nothing to do (other than go to Model Expo on the Monday).
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 29, 2019, 06:19:16 am
Serendipity or what ?  :mellow:
Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: zenrat on April 30, 2019, 01:51:16 am
Serendipity or what ?  :mellow:

Yes, which makes me suspicious.  Life doesn't often cooperate with me like this.

Going back to campers from anything, this article was on display at the Lake Boga Flying Boat Museum.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47731081461_761e73214c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fHQgAn)20190428_135159 (https://flic.kr/p/2fHQgAn) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: 2019/2020 GB Season suggestions.
Post by: NARSES2 on April 30, 2019, 05:52:32 am
Right gents, that's it I'll now lock this thread and start working at collating all the suggestions.

Hopefully I will get the prospective runners in the 2019/20 Poll out for comment by the end of the week. I'll leave them open for 10 days or so, so that people can check I haven't missed anything or watered things down a bit to much where I combine some subjects so as to give them a better chance in the Poll. That will stay open for another couple of weeks and we will kick the GB season off on the 1st July after the normal curtain raiser of the 1 Week GB has been run.