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Title: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: zenrat on February 25, 2019, 11:18:42 pm
Let me be the first to put their metaphorical towel on the sun lounger of the Flying Machines of Unconventional Means (that really needs a snappy acronym - haw about Alt. Flight?) GB.

I shall be building an improved Rotodyne from these parts.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7854/32273650357_7b9bbfe525_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RaUTRx)Rotodyne 2.0 Start (https://flic.kr/p/RaUTRx) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 26, 2019, 12:52:02 am
Go Fred!  :thumbsup:

But not until March 1st of course...........  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Modelling_Mushi on February 26, 2019, 01:37:07 am
Let me be the first to put their metaphorical towel on the sun lounger of the Flying Machines of Unconventional Means (that really needs a snappy acronym - haw about Alt. Flight?) GB.

Very interested to see how this one goes ... been a wallflower/lurker for nearly 2 years, dreaming of polystyrene glue ...

GB acronym? Already has one ... F*Mum ... although don't tell my mum.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on February 26, 2019, 01:42:19 am
Go Fred!  :thumbsup:

But not until March 1st of course...........  ;D

Not even a small head start so I can begin sanding all those rivets off...

OK, I promise.  ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Weaver on February 27, 2019, 06:49:43 pm
Hmmm, a Rotodyne AND a Harrier in the same build? It only needs a bit of Concorde in there to become more Nineteen-Sixtiesly British than the mind can comfortably conceive...
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on February 28, 2019, 12:40:50 am
The other two bags contain parts from an Il-28 and an A-10.  Neither British nor Sixties.

However, you have given me an idea for a paint job OTHER than zenrat industries.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Weaver on February 28, 2019, 01:59:30 am
The other two bags contain parts from an Il-28 and an A-10.  Neither British nor Sixties.

However, you have given me an idea for a paint job OTHER than zenrat industries.

Ah, I can see them now you've named them, however I was struggling to identify them before.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on February 28, 2019, 02:37:48 am
The other two bags contain parts from an Il-28 and an A-10.  Neither British nor Sixties.

However, you have given me an idea for a paint job OTHER than zenrat industries.

Ah, I can see them now you've named them, however I was struggling to identify them before.

But can you identify the kit manufacturers?
The A-10 is easy given there are two colours of plastic in there.
The Harrier could be a bit trickier unless you have built one of this example and have cursed at the ill fitting and poorly thought out intake design.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 03, 2019, 01:21:09 am
Well i've started.
I've glued the windows into the 'dyne fuselage, assembled the 'dyne wings, partially assembled the Il-28 nacelles and started assembling the Harrier fuselage while working out how to combine it with the rotor support thingo (pylon?).


Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kitnut617 on March 03, 2019, 07:56:06 am
The Harrier could be a bit trickier unless you have built one of this example and have cursed at the ill fitting and poorly thought out intake design.

I've got one of those in my stash, I'll try to find it.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 05, 2019, 12:21:03 am
Chop, saw, hack, glue, hack, chop, chop, saw, gouge, balance and photograph...

Progress so far.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7907/32344986667_0a5b85512c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RhdvDV)ROTODYNE 2.0 WIP 05-03-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/RhdvDV) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
While it will have a jet nozzle at the rear providing thrust, the main purpose of the Harrier's Pegasus is to provide compressed air to the rotor tips.  it also allows me to raise the rotor higher above the fuselage meaning the vertical tail(s) doesn't need to fold for clearance.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 05, 2019, 12:59:17 am
Radical thinking there Fred.  :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see where it goes eventually.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 05, 2019, 01:34:47 am
I may add burner cans to the rotor tips...
...and line the fuselage with cotton wool to simulate sound insulation.

Today I also disassembled the nacelles and reassembled them correctly so I didn't have one fat one and one thin one.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 05, 2019, 03:28:52 am

Today I also disassembled the nacelles and reassembled them correctly so I didn't have one fat one and one thin one.


Tophe wold have approved if you'd left them as they were.............  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kitnut617 on March 05, 2019, 05:45:40 am
I may add burner cans to the rotor tips...

I've been thinking about the Hughes hot tip solution* which is just exhaust gases being piped from the engines above the fuselage for a Rotodyne project I have in the works ---

* been reading about it on the Secret Projects Forum.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: strobez on March 05, 2019, 10:59:46 pm
Let me just say, I have no idea what’s going on here... but I like it!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 06, 2019, 02:01:59 am
...I have no idea what’s going on here...

Join the club mate.   :mellow:

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 10, 2019, 12:04:08 am
Interesting discovery today.  The rotor pylon on the Airfix Rotodyne is not moulded symmetrically.  When viewed from above one side has a more curved exterior profile than the other.
This'll be due to the old way of mastering.  Not something that will happen when Airfix use CAD to produce the moulds for the new 1/72 version.    ;)

Painted the inside of the fuselage black today (the easy way out - I am not up for scratching an interior on this one) and then, after checking I can insert the cockpit later, glued the halves together.
Applied PPP to the engine nacelles.
Also put epoxy filler on the remains of the Harrier and then glued the pylon to it.

Sanding the rivets off the fuselage will be next.  Then creating a restyled rear with a drop down ramp rather than clamshells.
I also have to get the stub wings and undercarriage nacelles (A-10) to fit.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 10, 2019, 05:20:56 am
You see, I would have simply swapped out the Tynes for full harrier fuselages and extended the wings.  Actually, I did consider doing that some years back but never got round to it.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 10, 2019, 09:47:42 am

.......and extended the wings.


Way to go!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 10, 2019, 12:06:35 pm
It wouldn't have been of Spackman proportions, just enough to accommodate the wider Harrier fuselages.  I was to have kept the noses as well for additional fuel.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kitnut617 on March 10, 2019, 12:36:21 pm
You see, I would have simply swapped out the Tynes for full harrier fuselages and extended the wings. 

Now you're talking,

shades of this which was started a long time ago (still needs to be finished though  :banghead: )

(http://village.photos/images/user/8f3973c9-3f0e-4b54-80e2-017121c0bf9f/535a3df2-13d2-4e66-a57a-3bf4d4c55fbb.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 10, 2019, 04:39:34 pm
I must admit the wings do seem a bit short.
However, in light of the statement in The Rules regarding stubby wings I will not be lengthening them.
I may however give them some Anhedral as a nod to the Harrier.

Kitnut, your B57(?) looks very promising.  Why has it stalled?
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 11, 2019, 12:37:35 am
Progress.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7837/40381140983_46436c5773_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24wkUmF)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 11-03-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/24wkUmF) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 11, 2019, 12:51:02 am
That's one SERIOUS exhaust duct on the Pegasus.

RESPECT!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 11, 2019, 01:34:59 am
Thanks Kit.  Not having a spare jet exhaust without an afterburner I had to use a piece of styrene tube and it was that one or one half the size which looked far too small.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: rickshaw on March 11, 2019, 03:58:43 am
I note you've added a rear ramp.  Rotodyne Z, the proposed production version had a beavertail door.  I did one on my RAN one a few years ago.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/192/picture148xq.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/707/picture143p.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 13, 2019, 04:44:30 am
Very nice.

I added the ramp because I thought it should be able to open the back door in flight should the operator want to air drop cargoes (or disgorge unruly passengers)..
The interior is divided into two with a dedicated cargo section at the rear (the last 3 windows on each side will be blanked off.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Captain Canada on March 13, 2019, 06:29:24 am
Very nice. I like the new look so far !
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 14, 2019, 02:42:38 am
Thanks Cap'n.  PSR time approaches...
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 17, 2019, 02:32:54 am
Today I have glued the Pegasus and pylon onto the top of the fuselage with styrene cement.  Contact points are minimal so once all is dried I will run a nice thick bead of epoxy round the edge.  This will be hidden under the filler that will blend the whole lot together.
I also glued the jet nacelles to the wings.  Yet more filler will be needed to blend these together.
Filler will also be needed for the many sink marks on the fuselage and for the steps where the fuselage halves didn't match up well.
I haven't glued the undercarriage sponsons and stub wings on yet but I am pretty sure that they'll also need filler.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 17, 2019, 03:58:16 am
Remind me to buy shares in Isopon, Humbrol, Squadron, Presto and anyone else who makes filler.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 17, 2019, 04:39:29 am
Tamiya Polyester (AKA stinky yellow) and PPP in my case.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on March 22, 2019, 11:12:44 am
Progress.
Good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 22, 2019, 09:33:56 pm
Stinky yellow putty has been applied to the join between the Pegasus and the Rotodyne.  I will shortly go down to the shed and sand it.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: 63cpe on March 23, 2019, 01:06:10 am
You go Fred!

 [Tamiya Polyester (AKA stinky yellow) ]   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 23, 2019, 01:28:25 am
Today I sanded back the Stinky Yellow and then added PPP to build the contours up to finished profile(ish).
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7809/46531710325_6d157af270_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dTRbkF)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 23-03-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2dTRbkF) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

While sanding I was contemplating Rotodyne 3.0.
Biggest difference will be no oval windows.  They are the one thing I have never liked on the 'dyne.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 24, 2019, 01:55:16 am
It's like watching a tadpole develop...

...or maybe not.  :unsure:
She's grown sponsons, become a bit smoother and i've extended the Pegasus fairing.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/32512410787_e6166ca784_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rx1B1F)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 24-03-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/Rx1B1F) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on March 24, 2019, 02:14:09 am
She's looking good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 24, 2019, 02:19:36 am
Thanks Tophe.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 24, 2019, 02:34:23 am
Developing nicely Fred, that exhaust pipe impresses me every time I see it.  :thumbsup:

I winder if the 'dyne used stock Viscount window frames, they're a very similar shape and size, ie BIG! I've spent may hours sitting alongside a BMid Viscount window while trekking across to Holland in the 80s, and they're certainly in the large side!  :o
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 24, 2019, 03:51:28 am
While sanding this today I blew into the Pegasus intake to remove some dust from the fan blades...
...and was startled by a puff of smoke from that exhaust.  I thought it was going to start!

I have to go to the model shop tomorrow.  I have almost run out of PPP.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kerick on March 24, 2019, 06:15:05 am
Looking really good! I have to remember using Harrier intakes like that for future projects.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on March 24, 2019, 07:41:38 am
It's like watching a tadpole develop...


Back in the 50's that was a standard primary school class "project" about this time of year  ;D


I have to go to the model shop tomorrow.  I have almost run out of PPP.


Now there's a surprise
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 24, 2019, 08:37:04 am

Looking really good! I have to remember using Harrier intakes like that for future projects.


And the good thing about that idea is you don't have a whole Harrier left over, as you can buy just the intakes from a few suppliers these days.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 25, 2019, 03:51:38 am
I used a very early (mould dates from 1969) Hasegawa GR-1/AV8-A.  These are only good for kit bashing, whiffing or parts donors.
I've previously used one to built the Harrier B non V/STOL version.
When I finally build the RAN FAA & RAAF Harriers I have planned I will be using a Hasegawa FRS Mk1 (from 1984 - somehow I have ended up with two of these) and an Airfix GR7A/GR9A (from 2014).
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on March 28, 2019, 12:43:30 am
The 'dyne has reached the point where most of the PSR is completed.  It's now the shape I want it to and needs a coat of primer to show up any flaws, dents, scrapes and holes.  Before I get to that stage though I need to fill around the edges of the glazing, polish it back and then mask it.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on March 28, 2019, 09:53:20 am
While sanding I was contemplating Rotodyne 3.0.
Biggest difference will be no oval windows.  They are the one thing I have never liked on the 'dyne.

Picture windows like the Yak-24K VIP?  ;D

(http://www.krasnayazvezda.com/air/appareils/helico/yak24/39.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on April 02, 2019, 03:27:53 am
Maybe Jon, maybe.

I spent sone time today polishing and then masking the windows on this.
Only to come to the conclusion that due to Airfix's ill fitting sink mark riddled glazing I am going to smooth over them with filler, paint them and make decals for the glazing.
Having made that decision I shot a coat of primer her the whole thing in order to see all the flaws.
That was slightly depressing...
 :-\
I am not as far along with the PSR as I thought.
Oh well, plus ca change.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on April 05, 2019, 05:06:26 am
A thought on the paintjob.
(http://www.vickersviscount.net/images/Photos_Medium/100701.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: rickshaw on April 05, 2019, 05:32:24 am
Ah, TAA, now that brings back memories...   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on April 12, 2019, 02:38:38 am
More PSR.  It's shaped and I am now at the stage of smoothing over all the little dings, dints, divots and dents.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on April 14, 2019, 04:55:33 am
Another of those weekends where I had to work and then was forced to stay away from the bench drinking, eating and generally having a good time with Mrs z.
Terrible.
When we got back this arvo though I did manage to nip down, S the latest application of P and then give it a squirt of primer.
The fuselage is very close to being finished now.  Which means I should really be completing the wings and engines and looking at starting the rotors and tails.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 14, 2019, 07:40:22 am

.......and looking at starting the rotors and tails.


In the PLURAL?  :o
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on April 15, 2019, 04:28:51 am

.......and looking at starting the rotors and tails.


In the PLURAL?  :o

Yep.  Even a stock 'dyne has four vertical tails - two on each side.  One above the horizontal tail and one below.
(https://www.helis.com/h2/fairey_rotodyne_london.jpg)
Note Fulham Power Station in the background.

Some sanding with fine wet & dry on the fuselage tonight followed by more primer.  I also dobbed some filler onto the nacelles and wings.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 15, 2019, 04:41:23 am
Yeah, OK.  :thumbsup:

But ROTORS in the plural too?  :o

And I think that's Battersea Power Station, isn't it?

[JMN mode off]
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on April 15, 2019, 04:51:34 am
Yes, four rotor blades.  Each one of which I will colloquially refer to as a rotor.  Therefore four rotors. :mellow:

It's Fulham.  Battersea has the chimneys on the corners.
If you look up how many coal fired power stations there used to be in London it's not surprising the air used to be so bad.
Fulham Borough had it's own fleet of colliers running on the Thames bringing coal to the place.
Read all about it on Wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_Power_Station)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on April 15, 2019, 06:22:34 am
If I could see the picture I'd arbitrate (used to go past Battersea twice a day, and still pass it a lot on the train) but there's just a yellow rectangle with Hellis.com in the middle  :-\
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: rickshaw on April 15, 2019, 06:28:51 am
If I could see the picture I'd arbitrate (used to go past Battersea twice a day, and still pass it a lot on the train) but there's just a yellow rectangle with Hellis.com in the middle  :-\

Right click on the yellow box and select "Copy image location" (if you're using Firefox, I don't bother using IE as it's crap IMO).  Then open a fresh tab and in the navigation bar, right click and select "Paste and Go."  You'll see the picture.  Not sure why it's showing a yellow box except there might be something there preventing linking...
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 15, 2019, 08:45:38 am

Yes, four rotor blades.  Each one of which I will colloquially refer to as a rotor.  Therefore four rotors. :mellow:


Yeah, right........................  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on April 15, 2019, 01:51:53 pm

" ... it's not surprising the air used to be so bad."


Indeed, as this example demonstrates.

(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-pF8DrRM/0/fdb4a2f4/X2/COAL_VS_GAS-X2.png)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on April 16, 2019, 06:02:00 am
Having followed Rickshaw's suggestion I can confirm it's Fulham
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 03, 2019, 03:09:55 am
Paint on the fuselage today .  The white on the top side.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Leading Observer on May 03, 2019, 04:47:04 am
Yes, four rotor blades.  Each one of which I will colloquially refer to as a rotor.  Therefore four rotors. :mellow:

It's Fulham.  Battersea has the chimneys on the corners.
If you look up how many coal fired power stations there used to be in London it's not surprising the air used to be so bad.
Fulham Borough had it's own fleet of colliers running on the Thames bringing coal to the place.
Read all about it on Wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_Power_Station)

Battersea is of course linked that most famous of Whatifs "What if Pigs could fly" as illustrated on Pink Floyds Animals Album cover
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 04, 2019, 01:33:28 am
Disaster!

My paint has crazed.  It will need to be left alone for a while to fully gas out before being sanded.  I will then re-do it with acrylic rather than enamel.]
I have no idea why this has happened as I used the same combination of paints I have used many times before.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Caveman on May 04, 2019, 02:12:11 am
Maybe it couldn’t handle the awesomeness of a rotodyne underneath?
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on May 04, 2019, 02:13:23 am
I absolutely hate it when that happens, and as you say quite often there is no rhyme or reason behind it  :banghead:

I've almost given up using Humbrol spray varnish because it seems to happen quite often with it and it always seems worse because you are "nearly there" when it happens  :-\
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 04, 2019, 02:44:27 am
It's not as bad as it could be.  It'll be fairly easy to sand because that's how I achieved its final shape and so there is no surface detail left anyway.
I think I put the paint on too heavily in my enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 04, 2019, 11:01:19 pm
Having been left overnight the crazing has settled down as the paint gases out and it a lot less disastrous looking.
It still has a very weird texture and unless I modify it's specs to include zimmerit I will still be sanding it and then recoating with acrylic white.
I've started work on the rotors.  I'm in two minds over whether to use the standard tip jets or replace them with something bigger.  Whatever happens they will incorporate parts from the Gundam thruster nozzles I ordered last night.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on May 05, 2019, 02:42:55 am
... unless I modify it's specs to include zimmerit ...

That was a laugh out loud moment. Thanks, Fred! :thumbsup: :laugh:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Caveman on May 05, 2019, 04:37:22 am
I've started work on the rotors.  I'm in two minds over whether to use the standard tip jets or replace them with something bigger.

Maybe use something like a BERP tip? With a tip jet in it, it could be called a Forced Air Reaction Tip?  :mellow:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on May 05, 2019, 05:46:04 am
 :rolleyes: ;D ;D ;D :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kerick on May 05, 2019, 08:42:27 am
I've started work on the rotors.  I'm in two minds over whether to use the standard tip jets or replace them with something bigger.

Maybe use something like a BERP tip? With a tip jet in it, it could be called a Forced Air Reaction Tip?  :mellow:

Eat some spicy food and let nature decide!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kitnut617 on May 05, 2019, 11:32:10 am
I've started work on the rotors.  I'm in two minds over whether to use the standard tip jets or replace them with something bigger. 

The ""rotodyne"" project I was going to start will be much bigger. Planning on using either a Transall or C-130 fuselage. For the rotor tips, I was thinking of doing something like a BERP shaped tip, but then have three or four very small jets sandwiched in between the top an bottom of the shape. Something like that proposed hypersonic aircraft's wing that the Brits came up with.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Caveman on May 05, 2019, 01:53:38 pm
Something like that proposed hypersonic aircraft's wing that the Brits came up with.

EE P10

(https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/images/cosford/English_Electric_P.10_sml.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: rickshaw on May 05, 2019, 04:55:02 pm
I've started work on the rotors.  I'm in two minds over whether to use the standard tip jets or replace them with something bigger. 

The ""rotodyne"" project I was going to start will be much bigger. Planning on using either a Transall or C-130 fuselage. For the rotor tips, I was thinking of doing something like a BERP shaped tip, but then have three or four very small jets sandwiched in between the top an bottom of the shape. Something like that proposed hypersonic aircraft's wing that the Brits came up with.

Back in the early 1960s, that was what Fairey came up with basically.  It was a set of outlets along the rear edge if each blade tip.  Apparently it reduced the amount of noise considerably from the 60-80 decibels it normally emitted.   I modeled it on my RAN Rotodyne's blades:

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8438/picture144pd.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 06, 2019, 05:01:11 am
I'm aware of the low(er) noise tip design.
Unfortunately it proved impractical when used in conjunction with a Pegasus and was ditched in favour of soundproofing the cabin and moving the heliports further from the more expensive houses.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on May 06, 2019, 06:16:55 am
and moving the heliports further from the more expensive houses.

I'm surprised they didn't actually do that  :rolleyes:

I suppose Battersea Heliport was stuck between the posh bit - Chelsea - and the working class, at the time anyway, bit - Battersea - so it wouldn't have taken much moving.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: rickshaw on May 06, 2019, 07:10:07 am
and moving the heliports further from the more expensive houses.

I'm surprised they didn't actually do that  :rolleyes:

I suppose Battersea Heliport was stuck between the posh bit - Chelsea - and the working class, at the time anyway, bit - Battersea - so it wouldn't have taken much moving.

What has always surprised me is the complaint about the noise that the Rotodyne supposedly made and how loud it was.  Yet, today, we have the V-22 in Operation and it is noisier than the Rotodyne was...   :banghead:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 06, 2019, 07:20:55 am
I think the 'dyne's noise, the sound that REALLY got to people, was a higher frequency than the V-22's sound. When the tip jets started up there was a high pitched whistle until the igniters lit, and they added a much louder roar to the whistle. All this on top of the twin Elands of course, but they sounded just like a couple of Darts, half a Viscount. When they did the approach test flights at Benson I could hear the tip jets start up before I could hear the Elands, and I could see them anyway as it made a sort of spiral smoke trail as it approached.

The V-22 sounds like a big turbo-prop with added helicopter Whup-Whup on top of it, and doesn't have the same high frequency input that the 'dyne had.

Having said that, Fairey made a lot of progress in quieting the 'dyne down later on apparently, but that was well after it left Benson so I never heard the 'quiet' version.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kitnut617 on May 06, 2019, 07:34:25 am
Interestingly I didn't find the V-22 that did the flying display at USMC Yuma airshow to be very noisy at all. Not compared to the Cobras that also did their flying display. I wasn't standing very far from the V-22 either.

(http://village.photos/images/user/8f3973c9-3f0e-4b54-80e2-017121c0bf9f/resized_673e19a9-fb85-48f5-9246-d8a35eede3f9.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Caveman on May 06, 2019, 10:24:18 am
I may be misremembering but noise dBs go up with the cube of the exhaust velocity. Something to do with shear planes mixing different velocity air flows. High pitch sounds tend to be more annoying but attenuate in the atmosphere faster.

So helicopters have relatively noisy turbines which you can hear up close but at distance it’s blade noise which dominates. Added to the fact that the engine exhaust is inside the rotor wash.

Rotordyne with its tip jets had very small exhaust areas and so required high speed exhausts to produce sufficient force. Small area made them high pitch too. So loud and annoying.

I think the modern winner of worst noise is F35 when hovering though.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 06, 2019, 11:53:18 am

I think the modern winner of worst noise is F35 when hovering though.


I'd agree with that too, possibly competing with a Typhoon doing a QRA take-off requiring full burner.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kerick on May 06, 2019, 06:49:57 pm
Saw and heard a Harrier at an airshow once hovering in front of the crowd. Now that was loud!!!
Plus IIRC the worst helicopter noise comes from the tail rotor as its higher RPM.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Captain Canada on May 06, 2019, 06:55:58 pm
For sure Robert, the Osprey is barely audible from what I remember of a Huey or a Cobra ! Mind you, those two were both the new Z's and barely audible at all. The Osprey did make some nice sounds at a few angles. Kind of like the USCG Dolphins we see all the time back home. They make some awesome sounds as they are turning !
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on May 07, 2019, 06:39:17 am
I never heard the Rotodyne, or if I did I don't remember, but people I know who lived near Battersea Heliport at the time said it was the particular "whine" that got to you
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 16, 2019, 03:43:11 am
Started sanding off the zimmerit.  It's not going to look pretty but it is going to be smooth again and then I can repaint.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 20, 2019, 04:12:38 am
Sand, sand, sand...

Nearly there.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 23, 2019, 04:39:57 am
Sanding is almost completed.  I realised that as I wasn't scratchbuilding an interior I needed to glue the passenger access door into place.  There will be a smidge more sanding needed around that and then I can paint again.
It won't be done by May 31st but as I am on leave again for the first two weeks of June I am hopeful I can get it done before the extended GB deadline.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on May 24, 2019, 02:40:26 am
Primer...

...again.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 03, 2019, 03:29:18 am
It appears it is not meant to be easy painting this Rotodyne.
I put another coat of flat white on as undercoat.
Too heavy and it crazed.  Not as bad as before but still crazed.
I sanded it down and decided to go straight to the silver car paint on the bottom half.
Not being one to learn a lesson, after masking the top of the fuselage I once again put the paint on too heavy and it crazed in places.
So today I sanded lightly and put on more silver in light coats.  This didn't craze.  Instead I produced a texture reminiscent of sandpaper.  I am hopeful( ever the optimist) that this will polish back to a smooth finish.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on June 03, 2019, 03:37:17 am
Sometimes sh!t happens. :(
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: loupgarou on June 03, 2019, 03:41:08 am
Are you sure that the kit is not in some special plastic that refuses paint??  :banghead:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 03, 2019, 04:36:17 am
Just normal Airfix plastic Loupy. 
I think it was cursed by someone before I got my hands on it.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 03, 2019, 04:49:51 am

So today I sanded lightly and put on more silver in light coats.  This didn't craze.  Instead I produced a texture reminiscent of sandpaper. 


Ah yes, that was a development by Fairey later on the Rotodyne 2.0 project for drag reduction, a bit like the dimples in golf balls but on a larger scale.

[Kit's 2md mantra :- 'The backstory can always be adjusted to suit the model.........]
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 03, 2019, 05:01:55 am
Like sharkskin you mean?  Creating a boundary layer around the fuselage...

I'm confident it'll polish OK.  A quick rub with paper towel this evening has already taken it from the texture of 80 grade sandpaper down to that of 1200 wet'n'dry.
And then it'll be time to see what happens when I apply the white acrylic on the top half.


Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 03, 2019, 05:36:33 am

Like sharkskin you mean?  Creating a boundary layer around the fuselage...


Exactly.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 02:36:06 am
I have finally got an NMF on the lower fuselage that I am happy with.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017850181_ca7fc90fdd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gab2WD)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 07-06-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gab2WD) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Now I need to do the same on the wings and tails.
I doubt this is going to be finished by the deadline.  How about another two weeks?
 ;D ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on June 07, 2019, 02:46:58 am
on the lower fuselage that I am happy with.
I confirm this looks good, the happiness is well deserved! ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 03:24:24 am
Thank you Tophe.  I hope you are also experiencing happiness.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2019, 04:46:13 am

I doubt this is going to be finished by the deadline.  How about another two weeks?
 ;D ;)


I think that's called pushing your luck.................  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 05:22:54 am

I doubt this is going to be finished by the deadline.  How about another two weeks?
 ;D ;)


I think that's called pushing your luck.................  ;D

Yeah, but it was worth a try.
I have next week off work.  I'll see how far I get before, what, Friday 14th?
I'm not rushing this one.  I've put too much into it.  All that PSR plus years of planning.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2019, 05:32:27 am

I have next week off work.  I'll see how far I get before, what, Friday 14th?


Yes, local midnight on the 14 th is the ultimate end time of this GB.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 05:55:59 pm

I have next week off work.  I'll see how far I get before, what, Friday 14th?


Yes, local midnight on the 14 th is the ultimate end time of this GB.

This always confuses me.  Do you mean midnight between 13th & 14th or Midnight between 14th & 15th?
In other words, do we get all day Friday?
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on June 07, 2019, 07:39:35 pm
23:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2019, 02:21:09 am
25:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".

Exactly.

So yes you get all of Friday
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 08, 2019, 05:15:37 am
25:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".

I see South Australia is still using the 26 hour clock... ;D
  ;)

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: rickshaw on June 08, 2019, 06:28:02 am
25:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".

I see South Australia is still using the 26 hour clock... ;D
  ;)

Daylight Savings, mate.   ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on June 08, 2019, 08:29:40 am
It's a statement of how much I'm trying to fit into a day lately. :o
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on June 08, 2019, 09:21:02 am
On April 1st here in France, last year, the news said that the Earth rotation speed is decreasing because of so many wind turbines now, so all clocks will have to be changed, from 12 hours normal to 13 hours new, sending to garbage all the old ones, sorry… On April 2nd, they said it was a joke. I hope the Rotodyne 2.0 will be finished in time or later (good also, even if not a winner).
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2019, 09:47:44 am
What Chris said.

My post #128 in the GB Discussion thread explained it, or so I thought.


The mods have met in plenary session (which is pretty good considering we're 12000 miles apart!  :o) and have decided, much against our better judgement, that there will be a 2 week extension.

Thus the GB will end at midnight, local time wherever you are, on Friday June 14th.

In case that's confusing it means you can carry on building until 2359 hrs on the 14th, but have to stop within the next 60 seconds.


Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2019, 06:22:31 am
Never assume I have bothered to go and look something up.
Being bone idle it is easier to just ask.

But thank you for pointing it out.
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Tophe.  It will be finished and I will continue to update the thread as I do so.  It is just very likely that it will be after June 14th.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on June 09, 2019, 09:29:52 am
Thanks! It will get many clapping hands even if this may be too late for votes :unsure: ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Scotaidh on June 10, 2019, 01:41:51 am
25:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".

Sooooo ... 1am on the 15th?  <confused>
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on June 10, 2019, 02:59:31 am
25:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".

Sooooo ... 1am on the 15th?  <confused>

See posts 106, 107 & 108 above. :-X


PS: If you think about it, it's actually 1 minute to 2am on the 15th ... I was tired, OK!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2019, 07:23:17 am
25:59:59hrs 14 June 2019 is how read that statement of "midnight".

Sooooo ... 1am on the 15th?  <confused>


<Sigh>

READ, MARK, LEARN AND INWARDLY DIGEST!



The mods have met in plenary session (which is pretty good considering we're 12000 miles apart!  :o) and have decided, much against our better judgement, that there will be a 2 week extension.

Thus the GB will end at midnight, local time wherever you are, on Friday June 14th.

In case that's confusing it means you can carry on building until 2359 hrs on the 14th, but have to stop within the next 60 seconds.


Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2019, 07:26:48 am

.. I was tired, OK!

And I've got dodgy eyesight  :banghead:

Yup GB finishes this coming Friday at 23:59.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 11, 2019, 05:44:31 am
This definitely won't be done.
I will be concentrating on the 1WGB and then giving this the attention it deserves.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on June 11, 2019, 06:34:37 am
Let me know if you'd like the thread moved mate
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2019, 04:36:19 am
Let me know if you'd like the thread moved mate

Yes please Chris.  Stick it in the Current and Finished Projects - Aircraft folder please.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2019, 06:01:12 am
Moved as requested

Chris
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on June 12, 2019, 09:01:54 pm
Now we can quietly wait for the completion, good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2019, 03:23:44 am
Thanks Chris.
I did a bit to this today.  Got the rudders and elevators attached to the tails.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48054216092_7ef2a0d9b0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gdoqg7)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 13-06-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gdoqg7) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on June 13, 2019, 03:47:12 am
Hey, good looking! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 13, 2019, 04:53:35 am
That's one SERIOUS exhaust there, worth a couple of hundred horse-power at least.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2019, 05:03:07 am
Well it needs to be large as the bypass air from the Pegasus exits through it along with the exhaust gases when it isn't needed to blow round the rotor.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Devilfish on June 14, 2019, 03:15:07 am
"Rotodyne - By Gerry Anderson!"  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Crackingjob on June 15, 2019, 04:49:57 am
I agree very Anderson Thunderbirds....but of course he adapted things in use
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=thunderbirds+helicopter&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwii3Yn4tOviAhVxsXEKHaelACwQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=768&bih=927
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 16, 2019, 02:04:34 am
Masked this and had another go at painting the top half white.
Much more satisfactory results this time.  Mainly because I used acrylic and brushed it on.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2019, 02:49:55 am
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078322186_c28968b6dc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfvYaq)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 17-06-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gfvYaq) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Scotaidh on June 17, 2019, 03:33:43 am
Looks good!  All hail the Hairy Stick!  ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2019, 04:02:58 am
You may hail it if you like.  Just don't look too closely at the finish.  This is going to need some very gentle and carefull polishing if I am going to gloss clear it.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 21, 2019, 04:49:29 am
Painting continues.  I am applying thinned coats of gloss white acrylic (Vallejo).  IMO this gives the smoothest finish with a hairy stick but it's taking a while to get even coverage.

In the meantime I have moved on to the cockpit and the rotor.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48102441142_a69fb68369_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghDzTu)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 21-06-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ghDzTu) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Rather than add big tip jet thingos I have gone subtle and settled for just cleaning them up and adding nozzles from a Gundam detail up pack.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48102328871_6ae7e87152_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghD1vM)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 21-06-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ghD1vM) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Having sanded all the lovely rivets off the rest of the thing I am determined to keep them on the rotor.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 23, 2019, 05:59:34 am
Wings and tails painted.  I got the sandpaper effect again.  It polished off OK on the fuselage so hopefully it'll do the same on these parts.
I think it is due to spraying hot paint (warmed in a bucket of hot water) in a cold and damp atmosphere.
I have also primed the front and rear cowlings from the nacelles.  I may do these in Alclad Chrome.  Or at least try to do so.  It also might not like the ambient conditions down there.
White is nearly there.  One or two more thinned coats should do it and then I can unmask.  I have the decals sorted (from one of my few 1/72 airliner kits - Brad C knows what it is) but as they are designed for clear windows and I filled and paintd over those on the 'dyne I have had to print some decals to go under them.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 28, 2019, 03:38:10 am
White paint finished and masking removed.  Oversplosh cleaned off.
Worked on the cockpit today.  It's a bit bare OOB so i'm adding some bits and pieces.  I'm not sure if i'll retain the Airfix pilots or use a couple of PJ Productions examples.  I'll have to see how visible everything is through the "glass".
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 28, 2019, 06:31:33 am
'Oversplosh', I like it.  :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 28, 2019, 06:41:18 am
Ummmm yeah, I may have got a bit exuberant with the old hairy stick.
But that's the beauty of acrylics, it just lick washed off.
 :mellow:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on June 28, 2019, 07:18:56 am
... it just lick washed off.
 :mellow:

You forced a cat to clean the paint off? :unsure:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: nighthunter on June 28, 2019, 09:33:27 am
... it just lick washed off.
 :mellow:

You forced a cat to clean the paint off? :unsure:

There's no such thing as "forcing" a cat to do anything, lol!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Rheged on June 28, 2019, 12:47:23 pm
Oversplosh cleaned off.


What a delightful technical term!!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 29, 2019, 04:10:27 am
... it just lick washed off.
 :mellow:

You forced a cat to clean the paint off? :unsure:

Heh heh, no.  No cats here.  They know better than to come near me.
I used my Nan's technique - lick a hanky and then rub.  For best results do it in public with the subject squirming in embarrassment.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Scotaidh on June 29, 2019, 08:08:44 am
... it just lick washed off.
 :mellow:

You forced a cat to clean the paint off? :unsure:

Heh heh, no.  No cats here.  They know better than to come near me.
I used my Nan's technique - lick a hanky and then rub.  For best results do it in public with the subject squirming in embarrassment.

Ewwwwww - I had that done to me.  :P  <yuck!>  Nasty, nasty, nasty!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Captain Canada on June 29, 2019, 08:37:07 am
Looking good !
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on June 30, 2019, 02:51:38 am
So I started putting on the transfers today.
The ones I am using are from a 1/72 airliner with "real" windows.  The decals therefore have cutouts to fit over those windows.
I filled and painted over the 'dynes windows and so printed some graduated window effect decals to fit under the ones from the airliner.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48158464136_f7eb098349_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnAHzb)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 30-06-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gnAHzb) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
While these worked they look too much like the NMF finish on the lower half to the thing and so I am going to have to come up with something to put over the top.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48158464641_19206d405f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gnAHHT)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 30-06-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gnAHHT) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 30, 2019, 06:55:42 am
That's looking VERY smart indeed!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 01, 2019, 02:39:15 am
A bit more transferring.  One side at a time.  White is very slightly tacky and I don't want to risk fingerprints.  I might have to bring it into the warm for a day or two to bake it off (It won't fit in my dehydrator).
I have also polished off the sandpaper texture on the wings and tails and cleared them.
Fronts and rears of the nacelles are separate parts and are resplendent in alclad chrome.
Rotor blades were looking acceptable in Dulux spray on chrome until I gave them a coat of clear.  They now look like cheap silver paint.  Hmmmmmmm.   :angry:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48168101892_7f7ae943b3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gos7xo)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 01-07-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gos7xo) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on July 02, 2019, 02:00:17 am
Coming together beautifully, Fred! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 02, 2019, 03:19:20 am
Thanks guys.
I put another coat od Dulux spray on chrome over the clear on the rotors and they went back to looking acceptable.  Lesson learnt.
I also did more decaling.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: b29r on July 02, 2019, 07:00:31 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Dizzyfugu on July 02, 2019, 08:26:56 am
Oh, pretty!  :wub:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Captain Canada on July 02, 2019, 05:46:55 pm
Great stuff. Looking so real now !
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kerick on July 02, 2019, 09:29:30 pm
Looks fantastic! Can't wait to see it done! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 09, 2019, 03:34:52 am
Thanks guys.
Decalling is finished now (apart from doing something about the windows).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48239458107_ec18455930_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2guKQfX)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 09-09-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2guKQfX) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on July 09, 2019, 03:41:39 am
Oh, Yeah! TAA, the friendly, friendly way! ;D


Had the opportunity to go into the cockpit of a TAA ...? ? ?... back when I was a micro-human (ca. 1970-ish) .............. Wanted to but I chickened out! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 09, 2019, 09:41:03 am
Oh YEAH!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

That looks the BUSINESS!  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: kerick on July 09, 2019, 09:52:36 am
Classic and classy! The decals really tie it all together! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: scooter on July 11, 2019, 08:35:28 am
Oh, Yeah! TAA, the friendly, friendly way! ;D


Had the opportunity to go into the cockpit of a TAA ...? ? ?... back when I was a micro-human (ca. 1970-ish) .............. Wanted to but I chickened out! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/QRspJxxhIui5i/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on July 11, 2019, 10:00:20 am
Oh, Yeah! TAA, the friendly, friendly way! ;D


Had the opportunity to go into the cockpit of a TAA ...? ? ?... back when I was a micro-human (ca. 1970-ish) .............. Wanted to but I chickened out! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/QRspJxxhIui5i/giphy.gif)

Five years ago I would have found that funny, scooter. :-\

Unfortunately, for the last four years, I've had to deal with real paedophiles every day (not mere child sex offenders) & have had the unpleasant experience of reading Police reports & victims statements. It kinda takes the humour out of that scene, I'm afraid. :(

Not your fault, just life throwing the reality in my face too frequently. Sorry!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Rheged on July 11, 2019, 10:27:39 am
The Rotodyne is coming along VERY nicely.  I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 11, 2019, 03:32:15 pm
That is looking great!!!!  I have to admit, when I saw that picture it looked like a submarine with a stubby cannon on the front...........

Re: Airplane.... funny coincidence, i just watched that about 3 days ago and saw those scenes...wow... that would never even remotely pass these days. Thing is, that sort of humor wasn't exactly off limits around that time period and I've seen it in other things as well.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 12, 2019, 04:27:15 am
That is looking great!!!!  I have to admit, when I saw that picture it looked like a submarine with a stubby cannon on the front...........
Yeah, I see what you mean.  One day I'll whiff one of the AMT Yellow Submarine kits.

Womby - I don't know how you can do that and not be badly affected by it.  Kudos.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 13, 2019, 01:07:17 am
I printed the new decals for the windows today.  These will go over the top of what is there.  I will cut each one individually from the sheet of clear decal paper so it will take some time to apply them.
However, once they are on I can clear the whole thing and then proceed with the canopy and the fiddly bits and then it will be completed.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on July 13, 2019, 01:35:29 am
I printed the new decals for the windows today.  These will go over the top of what is there.  I will cut each one individually from the sheet of clear decal paper so it will take some time to apply them.
However, once they are on I can clear the whole thing and then proceed with the canopy and the fiddly bits and then it will be completed.
To understand completely, I would need a little explanation: do "windows" mean "lateral windows" and does "canopy" mean "glazed nose"? :unsure:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 13, 2019, 01:43:50 am
Yes.

I am not happy with the transfers (decals) I made for the passenger windows in the sides of the fuselage.  I have made some more which I will put over the top of the ones on there.
By canopy I mean the glazed nose of the aircraft.  I have to paint the framing and then glue it on.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on July 13, 2019, 01:46:33 am
 :thumbsup: (thanks for the explanation)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 14, 2019, 06:15:52 pm
Uncle duties still allow for transfers to be put on in as it can be dine in the kitchen.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48285857826_98d5ab2ae1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gyRDh7)Rotodyne WIP 15-07-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gyRDh7) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
I took this pic half way through applying the windows so you can see the difference.  Because I somehow managed to print the "overglazing" smaller than the previous windows I had to cut them out individually.
They look better, but don't stand out as much.

Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on July 14, 2019, 10:18:45 pm
congratulations! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 14, 2019, 11:06:52 pm
That's looking VERY good Fred.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 15, 2019, 01:28:47 am
Thanks folks.  I cleared over the decals today.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: royabulgaf on July 17, 2019, 07:16:35 pm
Old Wombat, you are right.  Cultures change.  Guys like me in their 50s and 60s will usually chuckle at that line.  Hell, I'm old enough to remember when drunk driving would get a chuckle.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 21, 2019, 03:45:01 am
I installed the crew and started painting the canopy framing today.  I had to stop painting the canopy framing when it was time to go to a friends house to have lunch, drink too much red wine and celebrate the moon landing by watching The Dish.
Here are my crew.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48336590972_3437ea667c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gDkEtw)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 21-07-2019 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gDkEtw) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48336439411_6b666e3796_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gDjTqp)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 21-07-2019 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gDjTqp) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Looking at the pics I see I have forgotten to paint their cap badges and buttons.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on July 21, 2019, 04:06:52 am
Captain is the top figure I presume, given his double gold rings ?

Really good work mate  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 28, 2019, 04:27:38 am
Thanks Chris.

Canopy attached.
Wings attached.

I have just realised that despite mentioning it above I neglected to paint the crews cap badges and buttons before gluing the canopy.
Bollocks.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 28, 2019, 09:36:10 am
I'll save Chris the trouble, "This is why I take notes, mate!"  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 29, 2019, 04:37:52 am
Just one more thing for the list of what has gone wrong on this build...

However, today I glued the tails on and assembled the rotor head.  Undercarriage next and then its done (although given what's gone before i'll prolly drop it before then).
Here it is wth the first official appearance of Scale Reference Lego Riot Squad Officer.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48403512836_db462042d7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gKfE1L)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 29-07-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gKfE1L) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: loupgarou on July 29, 2019, 04:48:43 am
Really beautiful, Fred.
I thoght the figure was Darth Vader.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 29, 2019, 05:12:31 am
Thanks Loupy.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on July 29, 2019, 06:17:21 am
Seriously looking the business  :thumbsup:

Talk about a silk purse from a sow's ear.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 29, 2019, 06:22:53 am
That's really shaping up!!!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on July 29, 2019, 10:00:45 am
Wow! I imagine the noise of such a monster... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 29, 2019, 11:00:11 am

Wow! I imagine the noise of such a monster... :thumbsup:


I'm trying not to, the real one was bad enough!  :o
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: KiwiZac on July 29, 2019, 08:05:14 pm
That is so, so cool. I'd never have thought of TAA as an operator but that scheme and markings fit perfectly! Gorgeous work.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on July 30, 2019, 03:22:52 am
That is looking stunning, Fred! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 30, 2019, 04:06:16 am
TAA, Fly the noisy way... ;D

Thanks folks.  The transfers are from the Airfix Fokker Friendship.
I'm pleased with how it's coming out but I have made a few silly mistakes.  At least one of which I can't hide.
It's sitting on the table next to by bench and I can't resist flicking the rotors round everytime I walk past.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on July 30, 2019, 06:20:51 am
.
It's sitting on the table next to by bench and I can't resist slicing the rotors round everytime I walk past.

For some reason I have this image of some itinerant moggie being totally engrossed by it  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on July 31, 2019, 03:08:08 am
Flicking, not slicing.

.
It's sitting on the table next to by bench and I can't resist slicing the rotors round everytime I walk past.

For some reason I have this image of some itinerant moggie being totally engrossed by it  ;D

No cats in my shed.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on July 31, 2019, 06:21:48 am
Flicking, not slicing.

.
It's sitting on the table next to by bench and I can't resist slicing the rotors round everytime I walk past.

For some reason I have this image of some itinerant moggie being totally engrossed by it  ;D

No cats in my shed.

You sure ? The little so and so's can get anywhere  :angel:

Saw a pic of the pre-production 1/48 scale resin 3D printed Rotodyne someone is producing today.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: chrisonord on July 31, 2019, 12:33:00 pm
I could have sworn  I  had commented on  this Fred :o. Any how, eet's a veery niiiice. I like!!! ;D ;D
I knew I should  of got myself one of these when they were  repoped a while  back,  and yours has proved to me that  I am daft for not  doing.  Marvellous  Fred, crack on :thumbsup:
Chris.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on August 01, 2019, 01:33:39 am
Fred said he wasn't going to post these, so I will;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taToYCcesTE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taToYCcesTE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0pjq3ZzHUs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0pjq3ZzHUs)

 :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on August 01, 2019, 02:54:48 am
Thanks Womby.

Any cat foolish enough to trespass into the shed would leave spray painted the first colour that fell to hand.

I'm keen to pick up another of these (1/72 obviously, although the smaller Revell one would do at a pinch) but they are like hens teeth.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 01, 2019, 06:50:29 am
I see them pop up from time to time in the States for reasonable money. I bought one just yesterday in fact after going to look again after I saw yours. They usually are being sold for $60-100 though and I'll never pay that much. This one was $28 after shipping. Just under the limit of what I would spend on one.

(https://i.imgur.com/gILXCYM.jpg)

Complete but the parts bags aren't sealed. Problem is, shipping from here to there can be a bit expensive sometimes. There were times I had to pass on these when they were going for dirt cheap and I suppose I could ax you(y'all) if you want 'em.  :unsure:   About a month ago I saw one for $10. Someone bought it, but it wasn't me...  :banghead:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 01, 2019, 09:33:55 am
I don't think I've ever had a 'dyne kit that the parts in bags, just LOADS of bits bouncing about loose, most of them having fallen off the sprues!  :-\
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Mossie on August 01, 2019, 09:40:43 am
I see them pop up from time to time in the States for reasonable money. I bought one just yesterday in fact after going to look again after I saw yours. They usually are being sold for $60-100 though and I'll never pay that much. This one was $28 after shipping. Just under the limit of what I would spend on one.

(https://i.imgur.com/gILXCYM.jpg)

Complete but the parts bags aren't sealed. Problem is, shipping from here to there can be a bit expensive sometimes. There were times I had to pass on these when they were going for dirt cheap and I suppose I could ax you(y'all) if you want 'em.  :unsure:   About a month ago I saw one for $10. Someone bought it, but it wasn't me...  :banghead:

See if you can find the Revel kit, it's more detailed but an odd scale at 1/78.  A very nice kit for it's age, it has a full interior and passengers.  It was re-released within the decade, so might be easier to find than the Airfix kit.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on August 02, 2019, 05:45:16 am
$US 28 is about $AU41 today.  Not a bad price.
If I was whiffing another one then the Revell kit would be as good as the Airfix as the scale wouldn't matter too much.
I would like to build a stock one though so that should be in the one true scale.
Of course, should I get any further with my plans for a Super Rotodyne (Superdyne?) then i will start from a different place.  Osprey fuselage looks promising.

Started the last lap on the 'dyne 2.0 today.  Began work on the undercarriage.  The A10 wheels looked too large in diameter to me so I had a rummage in a parts box and found some smaller replacements.  No idea what they are off.  I also, after looking at the thickness (both Rotodyne and A10) and shocking ejector pin marks (Rotodyne) on thThis would have been fine except that while detailing it I had painted, transferred and cleared the body and I cracked the top fuselage joint seam while fitting it.  This crack is now hidden by a faired in antenna.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 02, 2019, 02:11:34 pm
Thanks, Mossie, I'll have a go! Sounds like a fun kit. Fred has the right idea, if I whif it then the size difference doesn't bother me any. I'd like to militarize one.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on August 05, 2019, 05:36:43 am
Finished...


...apart from some panel line pin washing.  And then i'll have to set up Dadswell Bridge for photos.
Main (A10) undercarriage legs are possibly a bit liong giving it a distinct nose down stance.  However I can claim this is deliberate to put the engines level...


It struck me yesterday that as well as being suitable for Flying Machines of Unconventional Means this would also have qualified for Engines - More or Less.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 05, 2019, 06:25:00 am

It struck me yesterday that as well as being suitable for Flying Machines of Unconventional Means this would also have qualified for Engines - More or Less.


Two GBs at once, eh? That would tax the supply of moderators for sure, and Chris would probably explode!  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on August 05, 2019, 06:32:46 am
Which is why unlike other sites we only run one GB at a time - normally  ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on August 08, 2019, 03:03:52 am
While you await the beauty pics, here is a teaser.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48486760447_1f13b118bd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gSBjCp)Rotodyne 2.0 WIP 08-08-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2gSBjCp) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Tophe on August 08, 2019, 03:27:01 am
already beautiful! :wub:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2019, 04:10:10 am
Oh YES!

That's splendid!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Mossie on August 08, 2019, 06:13:41 am
Cracking. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: NARSES2 on August 08, 2019, 06:21:34 am
Cracking. :thumbsup:

Indeed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: Old Wombat on August 08, 2019, 11:03:10 am
Woo-hoo! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0
Post by: zenrat on August 10, 2019, 04:19:08 am
Fairey Rotodyne Mk2.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500835762_ed35954bf9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsJf)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - 13 of 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsJf) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Mark 2 Rotodyne compound helicopter shared major components with the Mark 1 (AKA Model Y) but was longer, taller, more powerful, faster and louder.  It did away with turboprops in favour of a pair of Bristol-Siddeley Cerberus turbojets mounted on the wings.  Air for the rotor tip jets was provided by a Bristol-Siddeley Pegasus which, mounted above the passenger cabin at the base of the rotor pylon, also provided additional thrust for forward motion.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500664181_e4a19c6479_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTQzHX)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - 2 of 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTQzHX) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The main undercarriage of the Mark 2 was located in sponsons mounted either side of the fuselage beneath the high mounted wings.  The legs could be hydraulically retracted or re-extended in order to put the rear load ramp closer to the ground or increase clearance for take off.  The aircraft pictured above has the legs extended to maximum height.  This was done when taxiing in order to lift the jet efflux as high as possible.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500836017_d562cfdb98_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsND)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - 10 of 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsND) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Performance
Maximum speed: 286 mph
Cruise speed: 250 mph
Range: 450 mi
Service ceiling: 16,000 ft

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500835902_8d8585276c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsLE)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - 11 of 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsLE) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

TAA (Trans Australia Airlines) purchased five 'dynes with options for another ten.  Their range was too short to be able to do the non stop capitol city runs (with the exception of Melbourne/Hobart) but two were used from Melbourne to Victorian and Tasmanian cities while a third did similar duty from Sydney.  The remaining two were dedicated to Canberra, shuttling between the Harold Holt Helipad and Melbourne or Sydney city centre.  These routes proved very popular with politicians particularly after the end of the parliamentary week on Wednesday afternoon and again before it restarted the following Tuesday lunchtime.  The Pollie Shuttle operated regularly for three years but in the end it proved uneconomical as while it was fully booked when parliament was sitting is was empty the other 48 weeks a year.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500663296_84b892c440_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTQzsG)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - 16 of 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTQzsG) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Model
Airfix 1/72 Rotodyne.
Hasgegawa 1/72 Harrier fuselage and wheels.
Italeri 1/72 Ilyushin Il-28 engines.
Matchbox 1/72 Fairchild A-10 inner wings and undercarriage fairings.
Scratch building & PSR.
Transfers from Airfix 1/72 Fokker F-27 Friendship.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48500835172_c49c23ab36_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsy5)Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - 20 of 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2gTRsy5) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr



Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 10, 2019, 05:05:39 am
Pure brilliance, no other word fits.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I just LOVE the way you sorted the backstory to solve the landing gear length problem, and the sideways jab at the politicos is superb.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: chrisonord on August 10, 2019, 05:50:58 am
Marvellous  :wub: :thumbsup:
Chris
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 10, 2019, 06:35:15 am
"Well, I think it looks like a giant lavatory."
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2019, 07:58:17 am
She's a stunner!
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: Old Wombat on August 10, 2019, 09:36:27 am
Pure brilliance, no other word fits.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I just LOVE the way you sorted the backstory to solve the landing gear length problem, and the sideways jab at the politicos is superb.  ;D ;D

With Kit all the way on this one! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: TomZ on August 10, 2019, 09:48:31 am
Beautiful!

TomZ
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2019, 10:42:32 am
While it's fresh on your mind, does this part look familiar to you? 

(https://i.imgur.com/9RGHMwO.jpg)

I think it dropped out of the Rotodyne kit I just purchased. The plastic matches but I didn't see this little part in the parts diagram. (not that it's not there, I could have missed it.... )
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 10, 2019, 11:35:29 am

While it's fresh on your mind, does this part look familiar to you? 


Doesn't ring 'dyne bells with me at all. Perhaps it fell out of the FROG Lancaster instead?
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2019, 12:04:00 pm
Different colors! That FROG kit is a strange sort of dark blue-green plastic. It's actually quite lovely.  ;D
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: scooter on August 10, 2019, 12:33:13 pm
Its an IKEA part then... :wacko:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 10, 2019, 02:06:36 pm

Different colors! That FROG kit is a strange sort of dark blue-green plastic. It's actually quite lovely.  ;D


Yes, the late FROG kits were all that colour, and quite hard plastic too.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2019, 02:16:49 pm
Oh!! Like.... the type when you cut a piece with some nips and almost lose an eye!  ;D


IKEA parts, Scoot... you know, that could very well be the case. I'm with Kit, other than the color matching the piece doesn't look like anything that goes with the kit. SO... here's a theory.......   the former owner, having found a spare piece that was the same color, threw it in the kit and then through sheer dumb luck it happened to be the very part that fell out once I rec'd it. One hell of a stretch but could explain things and that little part could very well not belong to ANYTHING I have.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: zenrat on August 10, 2019, 06:08:41 pm
Thanks for all the nice words folks.

Kit - no back story adjustment took place, I always intended her to have her bum in the air... ;)  Honest...

Brad C - It's not one of the parts I used and it's not one of the parts I just sorted into the parts boxes.  You could well be right about it being the result of a quick tidy up.
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Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2019, 06:42:34 pm
Thanks, bud. I'll re-double my efforts.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: The Rat on August 10, 2019, 08:03:55 pm
She's a stunner!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: zenrat on August 11, 2019, 03:42:12 am
Thanks Ratty.
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Post by: NARSES2 on August 11, 2019, 06:06:57 am
That's super mate  :thumbsup:

I was wondering about the front undercarriage  ;) ;D
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Post by: Rheged on August 11, 2019, 06:36:11 am
That is indeed one very impressive machine, with a well crafted backstory too!!
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Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on August 11, 2019, 01:22:35 pm
Mad but brilliant! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: zenrat on August 12, 2019, 01:58:27 am
Thanks folks.

That's super mate  :thumbsup:

I was wondering about the front undercarriage  ;) ;D

Front isn't the problem as it's stock Airfix.  It's the back legs that I should really have cut down.  As it was I used smaller (Harrier) wheels.  If i'd had used the original Matchbox Warthog wheels then it would be even more tail high.
Title: Re: Fairey Rotodyne 2.0 - Finished pics page 14
Post by: chrisonord on August 14, 2019, 12:46:43 pm
That's it, I  want one of these things now, whether I will ever  build  it is yet to be seen but  you have  put a stop to my umming and arring.
Cheers Fred :rolleyes:
 :thumbsup:
Chris.
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Post by: Tophe on August 14, 2019, 09:05:11 pm
Belated congratulations for the beauty pics on page 14, in the airport :wub:
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Post by: zenrat on August 15, 2019, 02:51:46 am
Thanks folks.

Chris, took me about 5 years to decide what to do with it.
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Post by: chrisonord on August 15, 2019, 10:32:50 pm
Thanks folks.

Chris, took me about 5 years to decide what to do with it.
Good  thingd should  never be rushed  Fred.
Chris.