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Title: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on January 13, 2019, 10:05:01 am
I just posted a (long overdue) update to my site on the De Havilland DH-88 Comet.

Not structly what-if but there is a what-if section in the site!

(http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/Comets/Images/GACSS-0.jpg)

http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/index.htm (http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/index.htm)


Have a look!

TomZ



Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Leading Observer on January 13, 2019, 10:41:06 am
No doubt you've seen this:https://www.cometracer.co.uk/ (https://www.cometracer.co.uk/) and G-RCSR is a reproduction Comet based on the original construction drawings, being built by Ken Fern in parallel with the restoration of Black Magic at Derby
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on January 13, 2019, 10:52:18 am
No doubt you've seen this:https://www.cometracer.co.uk/ (https://www.cometracer.co.uk/) and G-RCSR is a reproduction Comet based on the original construction drawings, being built by Ken Fern in parallel with the restoration of Black Magic at Derby
Yes, I have seen the site and follow them on Facebook. Can't wait to see all three Comets flying together!

TomZ
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on January 25, 2019, 08:22:16 am
there is a what-if section in the site!
http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/index.htm (http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/index.htm)
Have a look!
I love this what-if section! (with 3 & 4 engines & jet Comets, mainly) ;D :wub:
And I am glad to find included the French and Soviet cousins of the British bird, thanks! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: kitbasher on January 25, 2019, 03:59:23 pm
there is a what-if section in the site!
http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/index.htm (http://dh88.airwar1946.nl/index.htm)
Have a look!
I love this what-if section! (with 3 & 4 engines & jet Comets, mainly) ;D :wub:
And I am glad to find included the French and Soviet cousins of the British bird, thanks! :thumbsup:

And a fair number of them have been lifted (without credit) from this very forum.  4 are mine and at least one is NARSES2's.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: NARSES2 on January 26, 2019, 02:19:18 am

And a fair number of them have been lifted (without credit) from this very forum.  4 are mine and at least one is NARSES2's.

Well I'll be jiggered ! Perhaps we should consider a Class Action Dave ?  ;)

Seriously it does annoy me when people's work, or even the source, goes unaccredited.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on January 26, 2019, 02:27:24 am
And a fair number of them have been lifted (without credit) from this very forum.  4 are mine and at least one is NARSES2's.

Just let me know which ones are yours and I will put the credits in.
I has a lot of material that I have no idea where it came from.
No offence meant!

TomZ
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: NARSES2 on January 26, 2019, 02:40:01 am
Cheers Tom  :thumbsup:

Mine is the RAF PR one.

Chris
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: kitbasher on January 26, 2019, 02:54:05 am
And a fair number of them have been lifted (without credit) from this very forum.  4 are mine and at least one is NARSES2's.

Just let me know which ones are yours and I will put the credits in.
I has a lot of material that I have no idea where it came from.
No offence meant!

TomZ

None taken, Tom.  :thumbsup:

Mine are the BEA, RAF camouflaged, Schneider and Supermarine Comets. 

There's a couple of others there that I've seen here, but don't recall which threads.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on January 26, 2019, 04:17:33 am
Seriously it does annoy me when people's work, or even the source, goes unaccredited.
According to me, the main fault is not Tom's but Microsoft's: "Save picture as" should not save only the picture, but a few pixels addition with the source. This is the need but computer people don't care of the need, alas. So, now, I do not use anymore "Save picture as" but "Print Screen" then going on a pixel management software to include the web address. This is possible but long and uneasy.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on January 26, 2019, 09:26:30 am
Gentlemen,

I've added your names (I hope I picked the right pictures  ;)) and where I could find them I added a link to the relevant topics on the forum.
Again apologies for not attributing your work!

TomZ
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: NARSES2 on January 27, 2019, 05:34:37 am
Thank you Tom  :thumbsup:

And Tophe, yes I can see where you are coming from.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: king of men on January 27, 2019, 09:24:44 pm
I do understand Tom's dilemma. I've been gathering up photos of 1:72 models in a folder for many many years. They're really just for my own entertainment and edification, but if I ever did decide to build an online 1:72 museum site, I wouldn't have the foggiest how to attribute probably 99% of those photos. I guess I'd just post them, ask that anyone who recognizes a model contact me, and go from there.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: NARSES2 on January 28, 2019, 07:06:01 am
I guess I'd just post them, ask that anyone who recognizes a model contact me, and go from there.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable way to do it.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on February 19, 2019, 08:49:20 pm
Do you know this lovely cartoon Comet? by Pat Cherry.
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/DH88-backheartart_zpssphggklo.png)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 19, 2019, 10:55:00 pm
I saw the real 'Grosvenor House' on Sunday, standing right next to Alex Henshaw's Mew Gull. It was amazing to think how many miles those two had done all that time ago.  :o
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 03, 2019, 10:23:52 am
And do you know the what-if twin-boom Comets? :unsure: ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/DH-188_b.jpg)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: NARSES2 on May 04, 2019, 01:53:55 am
Ooh I do like the twin boomers Tophe  :thumbsup:

Depending on what comes out on top in the next GB Season Poll I can see me turning the old Airfix kit into a nose wheel twin boomer
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 04, 2019, 07:43:47 pm
Thanks!
Then I will see if our Comet expert TomZ "accepts" it or judges this is too much heresy... :unsure: :-\ ;D
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on May 08, 2019, 12:35:24 am
Thanks!
Then I will see if our Comet expert TomZ "accepts" it or judges this is too much heresy... :unsure: :-\ ;D

I think it looks great. Anything that even remotely looks like a Comet is good!
I'm already looking for some extra Airfix Comet kits to turn it into plastic  :lol:

TomZ
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2019, 01:36:40 am
Wonderful! :thumbsup:

Ahem, concerning "turning it" into plastic, something has to be changed maybe: I have decreased the fin size by 30% because there are two of them (for having the same total area: aČ=2*bČ --> b=a/sqrt(2)=a*70.7%), so maybe using 1/72 fins/rear fuselages for a 1/48 nose/canopy (ratio 66.7% similar to 70.7%)? [Mathematics is fun when applied to the what-if world]

or using 2 big fins is possible also... like on the Twin-Mustang...
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2019, 03:36:08 am
Anything that even remotely looks like a Comet is good!
Anything? So, here are Mustang-Comet mixes:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P-51_profil01_eq.jpg)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on May 08, 2019, 03:44:42 am
 ;)

Will probably also have some scaling issues.......


TomZ
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2019, 11:47:16 am
Thanks!
And now 3 Lockheed intermediates (in my mind) between Lightning and Comet:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38_persp_C_aj.jpg)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 24, 2019, 06:34:39 am
There is another weird Comet (profile) at https://www.deviantart.com/bispro/art/De-Havilland-Comet-Trainer-203414640
by Bispro that was here as our friend Stargazer.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2019, 03:39:44 am
Maybe for father's day I may require the 1/144 DH-88 from http://jacques.chaubet.free.fr/1919/dh88/dh88.htm
It is all in white metal, I have never built such a kit... :unsure: (Jacques Chaubet answered that cyanoacylide glue like superglue works for that all right)
Has someone an experience of this kit?
(My plan is to build an asymmetric push-pull version, maybe biplane)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: TomZ on May 25, 2019, 04:27:32 am
I have two of them. Nice kit. Haven't built them yet.
Solid metal fuselage and wings in one piece.
Separate undercarriage.
Because it is solid metal, surgery to make into something else (shudder ;) ) will not be very easy.

TomZ
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Hobbes on May 25, 2019, 05:31:43 am
white metal is very soft. You can cut it with a hobby knife, and white metal landing gear sometimes will sag under the weight of a resin aircraft.
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2019, 05:39:54 am
Thanks! So I think this De Havilland/Tophe special Comet will be... ;D
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on May 28, 2019, 10:14:37 am
I found other Comets from our friend Stargazer2006 (and maybe transformed by myself):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/dehavilland%20joka.JPG)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/dehavilland%20dh88z.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/dehavilland%20joka10b.JPG)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on May 29, 2019, 10:53:31 am
A stretched, four-engine executive transport, a mini-Albatros.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JTjoNtdEOIY/USpnWZN1C1I/AAAAAAAAGLo/iulodfGdn20/s1600/De+Havilland+Albatross.jpg)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on June 07, 2019, 10:12:18 am
I found other Comets from our friend Stargazer2006 (and maybe transformed by myself):
I found another one in my archives:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/dehavilland%20jokaA.JPG)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on June 12, 2019, 11:10:44 am
I have created like a 1/72 single-seat plane with micro engines from a 1/144 Comet at
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=46580.0
 ;)
Title: Re: De Havilland DH-88 Comet
Post by: Tophe on August 19, 2019, 03:12:40 am
And do you know the what-if twin-boom Comets? :unsure: ;D
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/DH-188_b.jpg)
The DH-188 was not the only twin-boom Comet, there was also the DH-88TB and this one inspired its foreign cousins:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/DH-88TB_a.jpg)