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GROUP BUILDS => The Racing and Competition G.B. => Topic started by: NARSES2 on September 23, 2018, 05:54:35 am

Title: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on September 23, 2018, 05:54:35 am
As it says, the place to have a chat about your ideas and a place for your questions.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2018, 02:01:08 pm
Hmmmmmmmm...  I've already made one racing glider:

(https://i.imgur.com/g0EYegt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Tb1eeBL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Es6DQEb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1666Pww.jpg)

I issue unto you all a CHALLENGE, in the true spirit of the group build, to create an even better, even slowerfaster glider!  :wacko: :wacko: 

Speaking for myself, I have some of that one's cousins... two or three more little 1/72 gliders that I might attempt to make. I have quite a few race car decals sitting around so I should have all I need to decorate things.


Also, the idea of the slowest, bulkiest, least aerodynamic, etc being made into a racing vehicle. You know... like... that mechanized platform the space shuttle used to travel on. Top speed 1MPH, huge, and quite bulky. An An-12 and other ridiculously low stall speed aircraft.

How about some racing locomotives? Would be cool to see a racing semi truck or maybe a garbage truck or something. Racing street sweeper.  ;D

Racing Nuclear Submarine? Richard Petty blue number 43 Los Angeles Class. How about a racing super freighter or racing cruise ship?


Or I'm just a buffoon with idiotic nonsense ideas, whatever, take your pick.  ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: loupgarou on September 23, 2018, 03:11:38 pm
Hmmm. Some ideas are not so far fetched. Pennsy and NYC steam trains used to race (unofficially) on parallel tracks leaving NY, IIRC.
And the Blue Ribbon (or Riband) was a trophy for passenger ships across the Atlantic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Riband
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2018, 04:24:28 pm
Thanks, great stuff!  Definitely. Some of the others aren't far fetched either, like the semi trucks (although I don't recall see them ever race with trailers attached; now THAT would be fun to watch). Just some ideas and perhaps things I haven't seen very many of modeled.  :wacko:

I have a Ferrari model kit sitting somewhere I might slap some Folgers coffee NASCAR stuff onto. Hmmmmmmm. . . . ..
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2018, 04:31:07 pm
Holy crap, what a coincidence. I just left here and went to face book. The "you have memories from a year ago" thing popped up and the first one was a link I posted to Stan Mott artwork, thus, I present highly relevant material By Stan Mott:

(https://i.imgur.com/WAEC7w8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h4xf1PO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EtQv4ZL.jpg)

Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kerick on September 23, 2018, 06:24:57 pm
There is also truck and tractor pulling contests.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/86/Tractor_pull_02.JPG/640px-Tractor_pull_02.JPG)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_pulling
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Dizzyfugu on September 24, 2018, 12:34:15 am
A German Reno Racer...

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2825/9461898755_25f3d33943_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fq7GRr)
1:72 Vereinigte Flugtechnische Werke (VFW) 'The Jšgermeister' (ex Heinkel He-100D); Reno Air Racer, Unlimited Class; summer 1969 (Whif/kit conversion) (https://flic.kr/p/fq7GRr) by dizzyfugu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/), on Flickr

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2886/9461898699_88b7c33b1a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fq7GQt)
1:72 Vereinigte Flugtechnische Werke (VFW) 'The Jšgermeister' (ex Heinkel He-100D); Reno Air Racer, Unlimited Class; summer 1969 (Whif/kit conversion) (https://flic.kr/p/fq7GQt) by dizzyfugu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3772/9461898637_49eb104da9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fq7GPp)
1:72 Vereinigte Flugtechnische Werke (VFW) 'The Jšgermeister' (ex Heinkel He-100D); Reno Air Racer, Unlimited Class; summer 1969 (Whif/kit conversion) (https://flic.kr/p/fq7GPp) by dizzyfugu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on September 24, 2018, 05:34:50 am
Hmmmmmmmm...  I've already made one racing glider:

(https://i.imgur.com/g0EYegt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Tb1eeBL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Es6DQEb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1666Pww.jpg)

I issue unto you all a CHALLENGE, in the true spirit of the group build, to create an even better, even slowerfaster glider!  :wacko: :wacko: 

Speaking for myself, I have some of that one's cousins... two or three more little 1/72 gliders that I might attempt to make. I have quite a few race car decals sitting around so I should have all I need to decorate things.


Also, the idea of the slowest, bulkiest, least aerodynamic, etc being made into a racing vehicle. You know... like... that mechanized platform the space shuttle used to travel on. Top speed 1MPH, huge, and quite bulky. An An-12 and other ridiculously low stall speed aircraft.

How about some racing locomotives? Would be cool to see a racing semi truck or maybe a garbage truck or something. Racing street sweeper.  ;D

Racing Nuclear Submarine? Richard Petty blue number 43 Los Angeles Class. How about a racing super freighter or racing cruise ship?


Or I'm just a buffoon with idiotic nonsense ideas, whatever, take your pick.  ;D ;D

How about a swing-wing glider? Folds it's wings back to pick up speed in a dive, then swings them forwards to turn the speed into lift...

Make it a ultra-modern thing made of carbon-fibre and computer-graphics with miniaturized flight-computers and a mission to save the planet with 'free' flight and you could probably get it funded for real on Kickstarter... :wacko: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on September 24, 2018, 07:59:41 am
Looking forward to this GB.  I have my plastic ready, I know what to build.  It may not be as exciting as other creations but I'm itching to get it done!
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 24, 2018, 08:02:14 am

How about a swing-wing glider? Folds it's wings back to pick up speed in a dive, then swings them forwards to turn the speed into lift...

Make it a ultra-modern thing made of carbon-fibre and computer-graphics with miniaturized flight-computers and a mission to save the planet with 'free' flight and you could probably get it funded for real on Kickstarter... :wacko: :rolleyes:


There've been a couple of variable geometry sailplanes, but none ever went into production. I don't mean ones with large flaps, as many do these days, I meant aircraft that radically changed their geometry.

The Beatty B-5 could change its chord AND span, both at once if need be, but ran into massive stability problems and later versions were more conventional.

(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/6095/mNJZO6.jpg)

There were also a couple of German designs after WWII, one which had telescopic wings to almost double its span as needed and the other had wings which were hinged at mid span and the outer half folded up underneath the inner half! Goodness knows what sort of trim change that latter type suffered during the change.  :o
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Rheged on September 24, 2018, 10:51:47 am

There were also a couple of German designs after WWII, one which had telescopic wings to almost double its span as needed and the other had wings which were hinged at mid span and the outer half folded up underneath the inner half! Goodness knows what sort of trim change that latter type suffered during the change.  :o

I'd be just ever so slightly concerned if the wing extension or wing folding mechanisms got out of sync.  Unplanned asymmetry would give results  that even our esteemed colleague Tophe might find challenging.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 24, 2018, 12:58:33 pm

There were also a couple of German designs after WWII, one which had telescopic wings to almost double its span as needed and the other had wings which were hinged at mid span and the outer half folded up underneath the inner half! Goodness knows what sort of trim change that latter type suffered during the change.  :o

I'd be just ever so slightly concerned if the wing extension or wing folding mechanisms got out of sync.  Unplanned asymmetry would give results  that even our esteemed colleague Tophe might find challenging.


Exactly!

I'm not sure if they ever built the folding wing design, but the telescoping wing one definitely did. Sadly I can't find a reference to it on the net as yet, but someone made a flight simulation version of it and I may be able to track it down that way.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: perttime on September 24, 2018, 10:30:19 pm
It's been a while since I drew anything. There's the land version of Macchi M39:

(https://img00.deviantart.net/1e25/i/2013/259/d/b/macchi_m39t___side_views_by_perttime-d6mdsoj.jpg)

And a couple of modernized Napier-Heston Racers:

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,34783.msg577449.html#msg577449
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,34783.msg594692.html#msg594692
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: perttime on September 24, 2018, 10:41:21 pm
There are some interesting shapes in Control Line model aircraft. This one is a 1965 FAI class racer by Gerry Hand of Ireland:

(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/5/9/8/2/a3756969-254-Gerry%20Hand%201965.JPG)

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1530258-Control-Line-Team-Racer-plans-and-pictures
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Mossie on September 25, 2018, 12:22:53 am
Talking of gliders, I've often wondered if a tandem wing design would have benefits in terms of endurance.  The only one I know about is Rutan's Solitaire.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on September 25, 2018, 03:40:26 am
How about these.

Unidentified single Allison powered Dragster.
(http://www.enginebuildermag.com/wp-content/uploads/Dragster-single-engine.jpg)

Quad Allison engined dragster built by Jim Lyttle.
(http://www.enginebuildermag.com/wp-content/uploads/JimLytle_02_800.jpg)

And if you thought drag racers were crazy...

Unidentified triple Allison powered tractor puller.
(http://www.enginebuildermag.com/wp-content/uploads/tractorpull-3-engines.jpg)

Roude Leiw - a Curtiss Wright radial powered tractor puller.
(http://lh5.google.de/tractorpulling.sascha/RuUoLQl6n_I/AAAAAAAA7CA/aF18tlE8cT0/IMG_8697.JPG?imgmax=640)

Baby Duck - quad gas turbine powered tractor puller.
(http://lh5.google.de/tractorpulling.sascha/RuUqzQl6q-I/AAAAAAAA7m0/rs0e-dOftxA/IMG_8920.JPG?imgmax=640)

And just to finish on something (relatively) sensible (and Australian) this is Craig Archer's V8 dirt drag bike.
(https://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/silverstone-feed-data/4fc0de5b-df05-4208-834e-049f2b454a92.jpg/r0_0_847_565_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 25, 2018, 04:21:29 am

And just to finish on something (relatively) sensible (and Australian) this is Craig Archer's V8 dirt drag bike.
(https://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/silverstone-feed-data/4fc0de5b-df05-4208-834e-049f2b454a92.jpg/r0_0_847_565_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg)


A down under E J Potter, no less!. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on September 25, 2018, 05:01:22 am
Indeed.  IIRC Potter was also involved in putting Allisons in cars.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 25, 2018, 08:40:20 am
These ridiculous contraptions are glorious.  ;D :mellow:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on September 26, 2018, 04:16:32 am
Two words - Clipper Ship.
Lets say, for whatever reason, air freight isn't an option and the need for tea to be once again shipped from China to London as fast as possible turns into a race.  What would you choose?  Catamaran, hydrofoil or ekranoplan?
This pic isn't really relevant but if it doesn't stir something in you...
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-972f3bdce9bc989a36bf446fd3c681e0-c)

Also, lets not forget Van Ships.  Googling Racing Van ship brought me to this build of Dizzy's...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5696/20980988925_b52652787a_b.jpg)
...and this one by Bengalensis on Britmodeller.
(https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.asiakattz.se/_modeller/Vanship/VS1000.jpg&key=90eedc1fcb4b7a472dafe02b5e2508cc65cba6977f2822b7f1929e2fcaebcc5e)
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234965961-24h-endurance-racing-vanship/
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 26, 2018, 04:23:46 am

Two words - Clipper Ship.
Lets say, for whatever reason, air freight isn't an option and the need for tea to be once again shipped from China to London as fast as possible turns into a race.  What would you choose?  Catamaran, hydrofoil or ekranoplan?
This pic isn't really relevant but if it doesn't stir something in you...
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-972f3bdce9bc989a36bf446fd3c681e0-c)


I rather like the idea of a hydrofoil, Trimaran clipper container ship. The potential sail area would be VAST, and with all that deck area it could carry a LOT of containers too.

Darned if I know how I'd model it though...................
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 26, 2018, 03:08:26 pm
A foiling tri-hull as Kit suggests.

Ekranoplans are a non-starter for open ocean, although a Lippisch
type reversed-delta WIG might be viable, and a better choice as
they can fly up out of ground effect and operate effectively as an
airplane, unlike an ekranoplan, and thus be safe from heavy seas
when necessary.

Of course, that puts it outside of your no airfreight arena.
 ;D

The reality is that ekranoplans basically suck on anything but
very smooth water, plus the airframes are grotesquely overweight,
the heaviest flying boats have a much lower structural weight as
a percentage of overall weight than an ekranoplan.
 :wacko:


Lippisch 300-ton WIG
(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-nLKf4R2/0/19f636cc/O/LIPP_300-TON_01.png)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on September 27, 2018, 04:03:59 am
...The reality is that ekranoplans basically suck on anything but
very smooth water, plus the airframes are grotesquely overweight...
That may be true.  But they are still way cool.

Another potential form of racing for the GB.  Demolition Derby...
...with tanks.

Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Mossie on September 27, 2018, 07:59:56 am
An amphibious road train might be interesting, though! :wacko:

(http://www.ourterritory.com/katherine_region/images/shell_tankers_alicesprings_terryhassam.jpg)

That, and nicking Wombat's image gives me an idea too; road train racing.  Like caravan/trailer racing but bigger with hazardous loads and armoured cabs. :angel: 
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Dizzyfugu on September 27, 2018, 08:01:17 am
(http://www.draglist.com/draglist/admin/thumbnail.php?i=1226163552_Hell_on_Wheels-600x400.jpg&full=yes)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 01, 2018, 09:58:14 am
Is it OK to use tobacco company sponsor decals please?
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on October 01, 2018, 11:38:35 am
Is it OK to use tobacco company sponsor decals please?

Sure, but only as long as you include the black box warnings.  :wacko:
Not really, just jesting.
Feel free to use any markings you desire.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 01, 2018, 12:38:03 pm
Is it OK to use tobacco company sponsor decals please?

Sure, but only as long as you include the black box warnings.  :wacko:
Not really, just jesting.
Feel free to use any markings you desire.


Roger that, thanks.  :thumbsup:

I may put the warning on the bottom of the model..............  ;)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on October 01, 2018, 02:54:03 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 01, 2018, 03:19:55 pm
Developing that theme, I've been up in The Loft and come down with a whole bunch of interesting stuff.

Can I enter a whole racing team, the race car, the trailer and the tow truck as one model or will they have to be entered separately?
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on October 01, 2018, 03:33:57 pm
I have no problem with a race team entry, and I doubt Fred will either,
you could do the pit if you wanted and I'd consider it a single entry.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 01, 2018, 03:49:31 pm
Mechanical stuff I can, but I'm limited with architecture.  ;D

Thanks for the judgement.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on October 01, 2018, 05:29:51 pm
Architecture? I was looking forward to a grid girl or two.  ;)  :wacko:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 02, 2018, 12:37:31 am
Funny you should say that, I found a Fujimi set of 1/24 figures in The Loft and there's two girls in the set, one 'wearing' a swimming costume by De Vilbiss.............  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on October 02, 2018, 03:48:24 am
I'm good with a whole team being one entry.
And tobacco sponsorship is fine despite my vehement hatred of smoking (i'm the worst sort of ex-smoker - the zealot  ;D )
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 02, 2018, 09:31:44 am
Thank you kindly, I'll get on with acquiring the various bits, but I have most of it in The Loft anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 07, 2018, 01:54:13 pm
I know it doesn't start for 3 weeks plus, but when can we start posting pics of 'the ingredients'?
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on October 07, 2018, 06:24:02 pm
I canít speak for Fred, for myself Iíd say feel free to start your build threads at any time,
just not the actually chopping, twirling back kicks etc. until November 1.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on October 08, 2018, 02:48:15 am
Go for it.  Post away to your hearts content.  Just don't start anything.

Knowing what you are planning Kit you're going to need all three weeks to lay everything out... ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 08, 2018, 03:34:39 am
I haven't got all the bits yet either.  ;D

I hope the postmen are on top their game this week.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: nighthunter on October 08, 2018, 01:14:38 pm
Waiting on my Valom 1/144 Texan/Harvard kits to arrive, they're due around the 16th.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: McColm on October 09, 2018, 01:23:27 am
I've always wanted to put an aircraft engine into a car or truck. With my collection of 1/24 and 1/25 cars in need of restoration an idea is forming in my head.
There have been many racing Austin Mini conversions, as I have one in the stash there should be enough reference material on line .
 Which leaves the Jaguar E-type and Ford Crown Victoria as whiffs. The other cars are in storage boxes stacked in a cupboard. " Break glass when spares bins are empty".
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Dizzyfugu on October 09, 2018, 01:29:20 am
There was a Land Rover with a Merlin engine...

(https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Bell-Aurens-Longnose-fotoshowImage-8cabb852-258203.jpg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 09, 2018, 10:47:48 am
Many years ago I built a drag racing Chevy van with a Merlin engine in the back, driving the rear axle through a boat V-Drive and with the exhausts going out through the roof.

It for comprehensively broken when we moved from one end of the Forest to the other in 1983, but I still have all the bits. I'll try and take some pics soon.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Steel Penguin on October 09, 2018, 11:37:35 am
that landie is awesome  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: wacek85 on October 17, 2018, 05:19:05 am
I wonder if extension works in both ways i.e. can I start right now ? :)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on October 17, 2018, 06:35:47 am
I wonder if extension works in both ways i.e. can I start right now ? :)

 ;D ;D Nice try, but no  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on October 18, 2018, 03:27:42 am
Well, you could start now without telling anyone, fiddle the date settings on your camera and then stagger your posting of the pics here to match the adjusted dates.
Prolly easier to just wait.

Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 18, 2018, 04:18:59 am
Can do the clipping out of parts though right?  Clip out parts, sand away the burrs and flash, then get them organized. No glue! 
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on October 19, 2018, 03:07:34 am
Soitanly can Brad C.  Clip and trim away.  Just don't glue, cut, modify, putty, sand, repeat...
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2018, 05:41:06 am
Nice. I need to find my ferrari or lambo or whatever it was. lol
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on October 19, 2018, 06:07:51 am
Nice. I need to find my ferrari or lambo or whatever it was. lol

Why ? Oh so you can pop down to the local model shop  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2018, 08:02:55 am
Damn, that would be nice.  ;D

I need to start playing the lottery ever so often on the off chance I win it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: rickshaw on October 20, 2018, 02:57:17 am
Damn, that would be nice.  ;D

I need to start playing the lottery ever so often on the off chance I win it.  ;D

As a statistician I used to work with liked to remark, "you do realise that your chances of winning are only marginally improved by purchasing a ticket?"

It took about 15 years for my kids to realise what I meant when I said that to them when they suggested I purchase a lottery ticket.   ;)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 20, 2018, 03:20:39 am
I call it toilet paper and the casino is "where an idiot and his money parts."  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: loupgarou on October 23, 2018, 01:33:31 pm
I have found a book to study for ideas:

(https://i.postimg.cc/SxNz0c1b/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on October 29, 2018, 02:56:08 am
Competitors one and all.
There are just over two days to go until we start The Competition.
Please begin making your way towards the start line in an orderly manner.
Those requiring scrutineering form a civilised queue and have your wallets ready.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: scooter on October 29, 2018, 03:14:55 am
Those requiring scrutineering form a civilised queue and have your wallets ready.

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/amv-prod-cad-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/24-Hours-of-LeMons-BRIBED-Stencil-Photo-Gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Nils on October 29, 2018, 01:08:49 pm
i just found my old PM Model Spitfire Mk.V i started many years ago, also as a racer, but the project stalled and from what ive seen i dont think the kit is gonna be any good to me anymore  :-\

so now, i have looked into the stash and found 3 projects i can enter.
im now looking to choose between these:

-1/72 Spitfire Mk.XVI racer (thinking if calling it the "Red Devil" or the "Green Fairy (or Goblin)",depending on the color)
-1/72 F4U Corsair racer (same as above, stinnneed a name)
-1/144 Air racing diorama (im thinking a air racing pylon, with 3 smaller aircraft taking a sharp turn arround it, might be a bit complicated to make).
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2018, 01:51:12 pm

-1/144 Air racing diorama (im thinking a air racing pylon, with 3 smaller aircraft taking a sharp turn arround it, might be a bit complicated to make).


Back in the 70s Monogram sold their 1/72 Bearcat and P-51B Mustang as a racing pair, the Mustang as Paul Mantz's maroon aircraft, and it came complete with a cardboard cut-out pylon and wires to mount the two models. I used to have that kit but built the aircraft separately and I can't find the pylon any more, but they may still be around on auction sites and might be worth tracking down. The RW pylons are MASSIVE so the difference between 1/72 and 1/144 may not be so obvious.

This is what I did with the Bearcat, just 40 years too early for this GB, and it's not a Whiff anyway.  ;D

(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/4197/1DJ76a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: loupgarou on October 29, 2018, 02:21:07 pm

Those requiring scrutineering form a civilised queue and have your wallets ready.

I am preparing the wherewithal for the GB. Still have some Soles de oro from Peru, or maybe french Indochina piastres would be more appreciated?  ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdSjhbhm/IMG-2293redux.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TallEng on October 29, 2018, 02:33:48 pm

-1/72 Spitfire Mk.XVI racer (thinking if calling it the "Red Devil" or the "Green Fairy (or Goblin)",depending on the color)
-1/72 F4U Corsair racer (same as above, stinnneed a name)
-1/144 Air racing diorama (im thinking a air racing pylon, with 3 smaller aircraft taking a sharp turn arround it, might be a bit complicated to make).

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649
And how about The Black pearl for the Corsairs name? Might look pretty sharp in gloss black pearlescent paint?

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2018, 02:54:42 pm

I am preparing the wherewithal for the GB. Still have some Soles de oro from Peru, or maybe french Indochina piastres would be more appreciated?  ;D


I have some DDR Reichsmarks stashed away somewhere, smuggled out in the 70s.

Probably worth at least 2p by now though.  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on October 29, 2018, 05:29:45 pm
Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly?  :wacko:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: scooter on October 29, 2018, 05:44:37 pm

I am preparing the wherewithal for the GB. Still have some Soles de oro from Peru, or maybe french Indochina piastres would be more appreciated?  ;D


I have some DDR Reichsmarks stashed away somewhere, smuggled out in the 70s.

Probably worth at least 2p by now though.  ;D

I think Confederate bank notes have finally valued up to that
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TallEng on October 30, 2018, 12:08:31 am
Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly?  :wacko:

Indeed ;D my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on October 30, 2018, 06:16:43 am
Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly?  :wacko:

Indeed ;D my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

The upside of a Firefly would be that you could easily give joyrides to help pay for the racing.

I'm not sure to what extent a Firefly's performance could be made competitive. The Mk.1's top speed of 316mph with a 1700hp Griffon wouldn't cut it, but Mk.4s onwards had 2300hp Griffons, which I can't find a speed figure for. There's also the issue of lightening and cleaning the airframe up, and how much difference they'd make.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TallEng on October 30, 2018, 10:59:53 am
Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly?  :wacko:

Indeed ;D my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

The upside of a Firefly would be that you could easily give joyrides to help pay for the racing.

I'm not sure to what extent a Firefly's performance could be made competitive. The Mk.1's top speed of 316mph with a 1700hp Griffon wouldn't cut it, but Mk.4s onwards had 2300hp Griffons, which I can't find a speed figure for. There's also the issue of lightening and cleaning the airframe up, and how much difference they'd make.

I've seen 386mph at 14,00ft quoted on the web, so if you cleaned it up a bit (around 6,200kgs in fighting trim)* and lost some weight... 400ish mph ought to be doable, trouble is if your mate turns up with a Spiteful say (4,200kgs in fighting trim and 494mph flat out)* with the same engine and some  cleaning up/weight loss.....

*all figures in "ish"

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Doug K on October 30, 2018, 12:54:30 pm
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202

Not sure I can afford all the Spitfire floats Iíd need at £15 a pop for Bren Gunís Vs or IXs!
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TallEng on October 30, 2018, 02:36:02 pm
How about using Revells Re-pop of Matchbox's Twotter? It comes with alternate land/float U/C and seems to be available for around Ä10. The floats might be a bit big, (probably easier to make smaller than to make a small float bigger?) but then if your putting a late mark on floats it would probably need bigger floats.
Spitfire Vb approx 3,000kgs
Spiteful XIV 4,200kgs (that's a very late mark Spitfire I know :rolleyes:)

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: loupgarou on October 30, 2018, 03:12:04 pm
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202

Not sure I can afford all the Spitfire floats Iíd need at £15 a pop for Bren Gunís Vs or IXs!

You'd better upgrade to a Macchi 205, or Fiat G.55, for the italian entry.  ;) Or even the G.59.
PM Models did a float Spit. You should be able to find it cheaper.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on October 30, 2018, 03:35:28 pm
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.

Given my habit of biting off far more than I can chew GB-wise I'm fighting off the temptation to have two builds going.  I know exactly what Cunning Plan #2 would be - I have the components - so perhaps I'll remove one of the components from the SMW KitSwap stash reduction pile and hold it in reserve should a second build appear feasible.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on October 31, 2018, 01:52:14 am
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202


Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on October 31, 2018, 02:41:13 am
Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly?  :wacko:

Indeed ;D my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

The upside of a Firefly would be that you could easily give joyrides to help pay for the racing.

I'm not sure to what extent a Firefly's performance could be made competitive. The Mk.1's top speed of 316mph with a 1700hp Griffon wouldn't cut it, but Mk.4s onwards had 2300hp Griffons, which I can't find a speed figure for. There's also the issue of lightening and cleaning the airframe up, and how much difference they'd make.

I've seen 386mph at 14,00ft quoted on the web, so if you cleaned it up a bit (around 6,200kgs in fighting trim)* and lost some weight... 400ish mph ought to be doable, trouble is if your mate turns up with a Spiteful say (4,200kgs in fighting trim and 494mph flat out)* with the same engine and some  cleaning up/weight loss.....

*all figures in "ish"

Regards
Keith

Youi could always persuade a pretty girl to go and put a lipstick kiss on the Spiteful's wing: that should cost it 20mph at least... :wacko:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on October 31, 2018, 02:44:40 am
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202


Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

1957 - Gnat. Folland/Hawker sponsor a one-make class to promote sales, with subsidised/loaned aircraft for 'promising' teams...
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: scooter on October 31, 2018, 02:49:01 am
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202


Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

Convair: "Floats?  We don't need no stinking floats"
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on October 31, 2018, 02:56:45 am
Reno Rocket Replica Racing (R4 for short).

A racing class for restored originals or replicas of rocket-powered aircraft such as Me 163 and the like.

Aircraft can have auxiliary turbojets for taxiing/recovery/ferrying, but they must not contribute more than 20% of the total installed thrust, and the rocket engine must fire from before the aircraft starts it's take-off run and keep firing continuously until it runs out of oxidiser.

Aircraft must make a conventional runway take-off and landing. They must not use jettisonable undercarriage components at take-off, and on landing, at least 80% of the aircraft's weight has to be supported by rubber-tired wheels. This means that Me 163 replicas need to be modified with a central recessed wheel and outrigger skids.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on October 31, 2018, 07:41:08 am
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.



Isn't that the same thing ? Or is that bloke Zen at work again ?  ;)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TallEng on October 31, 2018, 11:23:39 am
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Tropby

There are of course several other air races available if Reno or the Schneider trophy aren't quite your thing...
Kings Cup Race (UK and commonwealth pilots only I believe), Bendix trophy (Transcontinental for our American friends), Daily Mail Trans-Atlantic Air Race (to commemorate Alcock and Browns first trans-Atlantic crossing- all sorts of aircraft were used... Phantoms, a Harrier, H.S.125, Beagle Basset, VC-10 and a Piper Comanche to name but a few)
Or you could re-run the MacRobertson Tropy Air Race (AKA as the London to Melbourne Air Race) post war. anything from small purpose built racers to Airliners took part in the original (including military types) Plenty of choices and not just restricted to Reno style ex-warbirds.

Regards
Keith (might find a flimsy excuse to build my DH.91 Albatross yet) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Doug K on October 31, 2018, 12:13:51 pm
I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202


Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

Yeah, I was thinking that it would be restricted to props,

Oh, another thought! Seafang on Zeke floats.......
Iím off to scour fleabay
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on October 31, 2018, 03:19:59 pm
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.

Isn't that the same thing ? Or is that bloke Zen at work again ?  ;)

well yes, but no, but....
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 31, 2018, 05:07:57 pm
It's 0008 GMT and we're off and racing in the UK.  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Gondor on November 01, 2018, 12:35:36 am
It's 0008 GMT and we're off and racing in the UK.  ;D

Not if you had been on my route to work this morning.....  :-\

Gondor
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on November 01, 2018, 01:51:44 am
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.



Isn't that the same thing ? Or is that bloke Zen at work again ?  ;)

I know nothing.

I just canít stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Tropby

There are of course several other air races available if Reno or the Schneider trophy aren't quite your thing...
Kings Cup Race (UK and commonwealth pilots only I believe), Bendix trophy (Transcontinental for our American friends), Daily Mail Trans-Atlantic Air Race (to commemorate Alcock and Browns first trans-Atlantic crossing- all sorts of aircraft were used... Phantoms, a Harrier, H.S.125, Beagle Basset, VC-10 and a Piper Comanche to name but a few)
Or you could re-run the MacRobertson Tropy Air Race (AKA as the London to Melbourne Air Race) post war. anything from small purpose built racers to Airliners took part in the original (including military types) Plenty of choices and not just restricted to Reno style ex-warbirds...

And then there's this race, which i'm surprised no-one has brought up...

(https://i0.wp.com/www.sweetsouthernsavings.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Wacky-Races.jpg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on November 01, 2018, 07:15:45 am
Right I;ve unlocked the finished builds thread. Surprised Dizzy hasn't been onto me  ;)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on November 02, 2018, 07:16:15 am
Pondering "Racing Armoured Cars", either 30's or late 40's based. Guns are allowed but each car can only carry 5 rounds ?

Might have a rummage at Telford and London
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Rheged on November 02, 2018, 12:20:57 pm
Pondering "Racing Armoured Cars", either 30's or late 40's based. Guns are allowed but each car can only carry 5 rounds ?

Might have a rummage at Telford and London

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on November 02, 2018, 02:30:10 pm
Pondering "Racing Armoured Cars", either 30's or late 40's based. Guns are allowed but each car can only carry 5 rounds ?

Might have a rummage at Telford and London

Paint rounds with all competitors using an identical gun?

Wheel hits resulting in a time penalty, engine hits causing retirement.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitnut617 on November 02, 2018, 03:39:03 pm

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.

The Saladin only had a 170 hp engine   :o :o :o  my Dodge Ram has nearly 400
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 02, 2018, 03:55:07 pm

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.

The Saladin only had a 170 hp engine   :o :o :o  my Dodge Ram has nearly 400


But yours hasn't got a gun turret...........  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitnut617 on November 02, 2018, 05:25:52 pm

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.

The Saladin only had a 170 hp engine   :o :o :o  my Dodge Ram has nearly 400


But yours hasn't got a gun turret...........  ;D ;)

Weeelll! I've been working on that ----   ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://village.photos/images/user/8f3973c9-3f0e-4b54-80e2-017121c0bf9f/7d289447-be8b-4f34-906d-99d1c830f9e5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: McColm on November 02, 2018, 10:08:08 pm
I had an idea ages ago to put a 1/24 aircraft engine in a 1/24 truck or car kit, I never got around to build it.
Perhaps something along the lines of SteamPunk might be a better option.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2018, 03:22:31 am
Ha! Oklahoma, why am I not surprised.  ;D :mellow:
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on November 03, 2018, 03:25:25 am
...and that is exactly what they had in mind when they added "the right to bear arms" to the US constitution...

 :-X
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2018, 03:29:44 am
If you can't saw buildings in half with it, it's just not worth having I say!  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 03, 2018, 03:45:38 am
I want one of those with an automatic 'seek and destroy BMWs' software package added to it.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on November 03, 2018, 04:25:44 am
I used to play Car Wars and to this day, when somebody cuts me up on the road, I flip up the safety on the non-existent gun button on the wheel and go "brrrrrrrt!" Have to remember not to do it when there are other people in the car though... :rolleyes:

Car Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Wars
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: scooter on November 03, 2018, 04:48:41 am
I used to play Car Wars and to this day, when somebody cuts me up on the road, I flip up the safety on the non-existent gun button on the wheel and go "brrrrrrrt!" Have to remember not to do it when there are other people in the car though... :rolleyes:

Car Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Wars

I go "Pew Pew Pew"...especially when the person in front of me doesn't understand the concept of the posted speed limit (usually by going slower)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2018, 09:41:47 am
I used to have a PA system on my car with a bullhorn up front and I'd verbally chastise people using my CB radio.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on November 03, 2018, 05:57:42 pm
I use a dirty mark on the windscreen as an aiming point and track it onto target by moving my head.
When someone cuts in front of me I shout "RAMMING SPEED".
Like Archer I have to remember not to do these if not alone.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: nighthunter on November 06, 2018, 08:36:29 am
Death Race, is a thing, just saying ;)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: scooter on November 06, 2018, 09:45:40 am
Death Race, is a thing, just saying ;)

Every major highway in New Jersey *except* the Garden State Parkway in the summer
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Mossie on November 06, 2018, 11:06:34 am
On the receiving end, I had hellfire and brimstone rained down on me. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I was driving on a holiday in Texas and I messed the priorities at a junction.  The guy blasted his horn, sped up to pass me and brandished a cross that he had hanging from his mirror!.  He then glowered at me instead of looking where he was going then pulled right in front of my nose forcing me to brake. I'd have been pretty p!ssed off if I could have believed what  I saw!
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 06, 2018, 11:31:30 am
He obviously thought you were a vampire. "I can't believe they let those guys drive in the day time!  :angry: :angry:  " 
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: nighthunter on November 06, 2018, 04:37:57 pm
It seems more along the lines of: "The Power of Christ compels you!" Lol!
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on November 07, 2018, 12:24:18 am
On the receiving end, I had hellfire and brimstone rained down on me. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I was driving on a holiday in Texas and I messed the priorities at a junction.  The guy blasted his horn, sped up to pass me and brandished a cross that he had hanging from his mirror!.  He then glowered at me instead of looking where he was going then pulled right in front of my nose forcing me to brake. I'd have been pretty p!ssed off if I could have believed what  I saw!

He obviously thought you were a vampire. "I can't believe they let those guys drive in the day time!  :angry: :angry:  " 

It seems more along the lines of: "The Power of Christ compels you!" Lol!

His passenger probably said "Show him you're cross..."

 ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 07, 2018, 03:21:58 am
He showed that he was cross by showing his cross. (as he crossed the intersection, which is another cross)

(https://i.imgur.com/LZdH4j3.jpg)

Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Rheged on November 07, 2018, 03:30:49 am
He showed that he was cross by showing his cross. (as he crossed the intersection, which is another cross)

(https://i.imgur.com/LZdH4j3.jpg)

Why, one asks, are these two young persons wearing their trousers back to front?  Is it because they are backward in other respects, or is it some strange recognition symbol between certain members of the youth of the Excited States?   Come to think of it, their tailor  made a mess of their leg measurements too.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 07, 2018, 03:35:38 am
 ;D ;D   

They were kid-rappers back in the early 90s that made music that appealed to children. Songs about things like missing the school bus and being in trouble for it, etc. Their gimmick was that they wore their clothes backwards. The clothes themselves, however, were the actual style of the time among "urban" yoots; baggy, oversized, and often featuring sports team stuff (just... not backwards).

EDIT:   Ooops, I forgot .... the relevance:  Their name is "Kriss Kross."    Might have heard of one of their songs, that goes like, "Kriss Kross will make you jump!"  ;D
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: Mossie on November 07, 2018, 04:23:34 am
He showed that he was cross by showing his cross. (as he crossed the intersection, which is another cross)

He then sped up to cross in front me.  Whole load of judgement heading my way!



He obviously thought you were a vampire. "I can't believe they let those guys drive in the day time!  :angry: :angry:  " 

It seems more along the lines of: "The Power of Christ compels you!" Lol!

His passenger probably said "Show him you're cross..."

 ;D

;D ;D ;D :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObpcGNCU944
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on November 07, 2018, 08:19:13 am
Thought I'd throw this in here for your viewing pleasure and perhaps some inspiration....

One of my best buddies at work got into racing a few years ago.  He's on his way to China this week for a race, but here are some videos form a race he want to in Thailand last November.  He raced at Reno this year too, taking third in class. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh5JZsTqJY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh5JZsTqJY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptdcv6bgYYg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptdcv6bgYYg)
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: perttime on November 07, 2018, 09:10:15 pm
Thought I'd throw this in here for your viewing pleasure and perhaps some inspiration....

One of my best buddies at work got into racing a few years ago.  He's on his way to China this week for a race, but here are some videos form a race he want to in Thailand last November.  He raced at Reno this year too, taking third in class. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh5JZsTqJY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHh5JZsTqJY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptdcv6bgYYg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptdcv6bgYYg)
I believe the people who run the Formula 1 Air Racing tour are also working on an electric Air Racing class. Electric power has come a long way in the last few years.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: nighthunter on November 27, 2018, 11:52:41 am
I'm half tempted to take my "antique" Airfix Mk.IX Spitfire and doing something racing oriented with it. It's almost as if we should do a crappy kit group build next, lol!
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on January 02, 2019, 06:57:56 am
Just under the month to go lads
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on January 21, 2019, 06:41:54 am
10 Days or so to go lads
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on January 24, 2019, 06:20:20 am
Right gents. Your gracious Moderators have agreed to an extension of 14 days being issued for the GB. Therefore the GB will now finish on 14th February, Valentines Day.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on January 27, 2019, 02:57:12 am
Right gents. Your gracious Moderators have agreed to an extension of 14 days being issued for the GB. Therefore the GB will now finish on 14th February, Valentines Day.

Ta
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on February 02, 2019, 02:00:20 am
Just under 2 weeks to go lads
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on February 10, 2019, 12:32:52 pm
Sadly I fear I have to bail.  Had hoped to get my entry done by the 14th but that's looking highly unlikely.  Mum in and out of hospital end of last week so Up North for a few days.  Will plod on with the build when I get back.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on February 10, 2019, 08:43:19 pm
Sorry to hear that KB.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on February 13, 2019, 07:43:23 am
Hope everything turns out OK Dave
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on February 13, 2019, 09:44:30 am
Zenrat, Chris - thanks a lot.  Minor blip to be honest, to be expected when in the early stages of heart failure (general catch-all term for 'there's something not quite right with the heart'), unlike father-in-law who's in later stages.  She's 90 (and otherwise in very good health for a person of her age), while he's 89 and in poor health.  Ho hum, comes to us all.  Anyway, it was a brief diversion and Mum's getting back to normal (albeit with the heart failure), she was in hospital for two nights.
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: 63cpe on February 13, 2019, 10:30:46 am
Sorry to read you have to bail out KB. But your health is more important than modelling ( what?!, wait a minute. Did i wrote that?). Anyway, take care and finish the models later.

Is usually overshoot GB due dates as live outside what-if takes over...wish it stopped interfering, but pays the bills.;-)

Cheers!
David aka 63cpe
Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on February 14, 2019, 03:47:49 am
One hour and thirteen minutes to go here.

Other time zones are available.

Title: Re: The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2019, 06:05:50 pm
And we're done.