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Title: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 07, 2018, 12:27:47 pm
We're all aware, or mainly aware, of Northrops many adventures with the -Flying Wing- and the large, more well known models. Well, here's the small, lesser known jet fighter one. I'm not entirely convinced it was ever ACTUALLY intended to be used to fly through other aircraft although that seems to be the consensus. Either way, the proposal is utterly preposterous. Still, it makes for some fancy lore!

"The Northrop XP-79, USAAF project number MX-365, was an ambitious design for a flying wing fighter aircraft, designed by Northrop. It had several notable design features; among these, the pilot would operate the aircraft from a lying position, permitting the pilot to withstand much greater g-forces in the upward and downward direction with respect to the plane and welded magnesium monocoque structure instead of riveted aluminum.Wiki + more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_XP-79   



Fancy Book Learnin'  (nice article about it): https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=549

Some notable aspects of this thing:

*Pilot flies prone.
*Canopy is also the nose
*Quad landing gear in a typically automotive fasion, i.e. "four corners"
*No rudders, but has fins
*Control surfaces partialy operate with ram-air from wing-tip inlets
*No rivets
*Made out of Magnesium
*Ridiculous

This is the RS kit. I've went and did some intell gathering and it seems I'll have problems with the intakes and a couple other minor things but should go together reasonable well. It's an extremely simple looking kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/Pve42h6.jpg)

See why I picked it?   ;D ;D   Should be simple even having to fix things. RS Models even helps out as the "what if" scheme is all there in the box with a painting guide and everything so all the work of that type is done for me which saves a decent chunk of time. Good job, RS Models!  :thumbsup:

It will have yellow on the bottom and green-grey camo on top with the UK roundels. 


Should be interesting... I've never built anything quite like it. Closest to a flying wing would perhaps be the Vampire I made but it has booms and a tail....  (OH HEY I just came up with a neat idea to make a Vampire flying wing!!  take the booms away and stick the fins and stuff up on the fuselage, etc etc etc...  :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: )   I DIGRESS. Long story short, it should be pretty interesting.  :mellow:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: zenrat on June 08, 2018, 05:15:14 am
...Some notable aspects of this thing:

*Pilot flies prone.
*Canopy is also the nose
*Quad landing gear in a typically automotive fasion, i.e. "four corners"
*No rudders, but has fins
*Control surfaces partialy operate with ram-air from wing-tip inlets
*No rivets
*Made out of Magnesium
*Ridiculous
...:mellow:

IMO the last point is the most important.
 ;D
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2018, 06:29:05 am
Ah, another magnesium aircraft to keep the manufacturers of fire extinguishers in business  :rolleyes: Just make sure it's parked in a bay a long way away from anything else flammable.

The biggest problem you might have with this is getting a good coverage with the yellow funnily enough.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 08, 2018, 07:48:02 am
I'm going to try some intermediate coats of differing colors under that yellow. I've heard pink works pretty well so after primer I might throw on a couple coats of white-ish color then some pink then try the yellow on top of that to see what happens. I'm thinking of "black-basing" it, as well, so if anything doesn't cover quite as well, it just looks like weathering instead of primer-grey shining through. It's an experimental airplane anyway so why not have a little fun with the painting!  :wacko:

You know, it's a shame, and I can see why they cancelled the program, but it would have been nice if the craft (and test pilot) weren't destroyed and we could have seen more of what could have become of it.  Magnesium... and.... at first they were wanting to use rocket motors or whatever with some highly corrosive, volatile fuel if memory serves. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen even after they went with the turbo-fans.  :unsure:  Fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: JayBee on June 08, 2018, 01:42:43 pm
Let's just go back five years :

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,37828.msg614995.html#msg614995

Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 08, 2018, 02:15:04 pm
Ha, Japanese, brilliant!!!!  Very good, there!!  :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: 
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: NARSES2 on June 09, 2018, 02:35:52 am
Yup pink, for some reason, makes a good base coat for yellow.

Use a fairly lightish pink though
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2018, 03:04:13 am
Yup pink, for some reason, makes a good base coat for yellow.

Use a fairly lightish pink though

The reason is probably quantum.
 :mellow:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 09, 2018, 08:00:23 am
Wilco! We'll see how it goes pretty soon. I'm getting under way tomorrow and have every right to just sit around and work on it all day in the cool AC so it won't be very long before we see some pink paint action. I've done the layering of different colors before but have not yet tried using pink so we'll see how it goes. It'll be fun to try it out and I've been wanthing to paint something with pink for quite some time now as I've never done it before despite being a fan of the color. Almost a shame to cover it up with yellow.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: JayBee on June 09, 2018, 08:07:42 am
Make sure you get PLENTY of nose weight in, I had to mould (English spelling) new nose wheels in lead and then it is only just not tail sitting.

Jim
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 09, 2018, 08:26:48 am
Thanks for the tip, Jim. It's weird, you wouldn't imagine something that doesn't have a fuselage and with a four point gear configuration would need anything!  I'll be sure to address this early and be aware of it continually as I go. I had to do the "stick glued to the end of the fuselage" a couple times before and it's always the pits.  ;D
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 10, 2018, 03:58:31 pm
90% of the construction is done. Top and bottom fins, a couple gear doors that go on closed, then the fuselage halves are what's next. I'll leave 4 gear and two last gear doors until I'm finished doing any PSR.

I have a ton of solid lead sitting in this thing. I wonder if it is enough? I might dry fit things together and do a fulcrum test.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ad4i6k7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZOQIrFm.jpg)

Not too shab!!! I'll be painting the interior stuff soon. Not sure if I'll do what the instructions say or change it up but I'll likely keep it mostly the same with exception of the cockpit which I don't think needs to be chromate yellow or whatever... I'll likely just paint it some color of interior green.

For a short run kit.... this thing is really nice. I've seen mass produced name brand kits that were 10x worse than this stuff...


Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 10, 2018, 06:12:55 pm
Interior is painted.


(https://i.imgur.com/GvgMQmU.jpg)

Good enough!! I'm not going into hyper-detail because the whole point is to blaze through this and not only that, I do believe it is rather difficult to peer through the front glass and see anything all too well to begin with.

Now, I'm going to go over everything again and make sure I didn't get any paint on any joining surfaces or inadvertently knock anything loose that will affect the fitment of the wing halves. (Did I call them fuselage halves earlier!?  ;D ;D ;D ) Earlier I did a bunch of dry fitting mixed with filing and sanding (along with heavier measure to remove pin towers) and got it really nice so this shouldn't take long. Then.... I'll be gluing this together and applying copious clothes pins to keep it all in order.

I have to say, I'm really enjoying building this!!  :lol: :lol:  I'm definitely going to be keeping my eye out for more of these kits. It's a really nice kit, in my opinion. I have yet to fit the intakes, however (I forgot about those in the last update), so "knock on wood. "

Anyway...  once I get the fuselage halves together I think I'll call it a day on this one so it can dry up. Next round I'll sand and fix anything I need to before I glue on the fins. I don't want to break them off gripping and elbow-greasing things so they'll have to wait 'til the next phase.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2018, 06:00:57 pm
This lil sucker is coming together, now!!!

All construction is complete aside from the antenna and gluing the 4 gear on. Oh and two gear doors.

I know I need to do more PSR but I went ahead and primed it to help matters.

(https://i.imgur.com/kh2pdPE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UsrEGlm.jpg)


I'll give it all a day to dry then get back after it. Won't be long, now. All I need to do is sand/file some places then hit it with another coat of primer then I can start painting. That should hopefully last 2-3 hours or less then I can gloss it and do transfers. If all goes well, I'll definitely be done before the deadline.

Rumination:  There's so much weight in this.... it makes it feel "good." Has a nice weight to it and almost seems as an actual shrunken down "real thing" with engines and everything. Something about being weighty just makes things like this seem of higher quality. Also of note is that it's such a nice little tidy package... compact...     A really neat model kit! (it's also good to get rid of more lead  ;D ;D ;D )

 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: NARSES2 on June 13, 2018, 06:21:55 am
Something about being weighty just makes things like this seem of higher quality.

True. We all seem to want to "heft" things to try and judge their quality sometimes. Almost certainly goes back to when a lot of items were metal and to a lot of people weight meant quality. I've also seen people do it with wood to try and determine hard wood or soft wood ?
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 13, 2018, 08:13:54 am

 I've also seen people do it with wood to try and determine hard wood or soft wood ?


Doesn't work worth a light with balsa, it's a hard wood and weighs naff all.  ;D
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 13, 2018, 08:22:10 am
What is it about that, anyway?! I seem to recall hearing an explanation but I've forgotten it if I have.


Balsa wood furniture would make moving easy. (so help me God if I ever have to move again I'm paying someone else to do it. )   I saw something the other day that had examples of PURPLE wood... it looked nice and heavy but would make some snazzy wares!
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 13, 2018, 09:45:23 am
Balsa furniture would indeed be very light, but it's not that strong either.

IIRC they used balsa furniture for filming Western bar brawls as it could be thrown about easily and looked terrific when it was broken over the bar, or someone's head..........  ;D
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 13, 2018, 10:24:19 am
Balsa furniture would indeed be very light, but it's not that strong either.

IIRC they used balsa furniture for filming Western bar brawls as it could be thrown about easily and looked terrific when it was broken over the bar, or someone's head..........  ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

I always wondered how they did that!  :mellow:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: NARSES2 on June 14, 2018, 02:57:09 am
  I saw something the other day that had examples of PURPLE wood... it looked nice and heavy but would make some snazzy wares!

Probably Purpleheart http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/ (http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/)
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2018, 04:06:00 am
Isn't it as simple as hard wood comes from deciduous trees and softwood from evergreen?
Or is that another "truth" that will turn out to be wrong (like the one about the water going down the plug hole the other way North of the equator.

<off to google>

Here we go.  Wikipedia says;

Hardwoods are produced by angiosperm trees that reproduce by flowers, and have broad leaves. Many species are deciduous. Those of temperate regions lose their leaves every autumn as temperatures fall and are dormant in the winter, but those of tropical regions may shed their leaves in response to seasonal or sporadic periods of drought. Hardwood from deciduous species, such as oak, normally shows annual growth rings, but these may be absent in some tropical hardwoods.

Hardwoods have a more complex structure than softwoods and are often much slower growing as a result. The dominant feature separating "hardwoods" from softwoods is the presence of pores, or vessels.[1] The vessels may show considerable variation in size, shape of perforation plates (simple, scalariform, reticulate, foraminate), and structure of cell wall, such as spiral thickenings.

As the name suggests, the wood from these trees is generally harder than that of softwoods, but there are significant exceptions. In both groups there is an enormous variation in actual wood hardness, with the range in density in hardwoods completely including that of softwoods; some hardwoods (e.g., balsa) are softer than most softwoods, while yew is an example of a hard softwood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardwood

Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 14, 2018, 08:16:50 am
  I saw something the other day that had examples of PURPLE wood... it looked nice and heavy but would make some snazzy wares!

Probably Purpleheart http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/ (http://www.wood-database.com/purpleheart/)

 :wub: :wub:

Man, I bet that stuff is expensive!!!
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 14, 2018, 08:18:42 am
Isn't it as simple as hard wood comes from deciduous trees and softwood from evergreen?
Or is that another "truth" that will turn out to be wrong (like the one about the water going down the plug hole the other way North of the equator.

<off to google>

Here we go.  Wikipedia says;

Hardwoods are produced by angiosperm trees that reproduce by flowers, and have broad leaves. Many species are deciduous. Those of temperate regions lose their leaves every autumn as temperatures fall and are dormant in the winter, but those of tropical regions may shed their leaves in response to seasonal or sporadic periods of drought. Hardwood from deciduous species, such as oak, normally shows annual growth rings, but these may be absent in some tropical hardwoods.

Hardwoods have a more complex structure than softwoods and are often much slower growing as a result. The dominant feature separating "hardwoods" from softwoods is the presence of pores, or vessels.[1] The vessels may show considerable variation in size, shape of perforation plates (simple, scalariform, reticulate, foraminate), and structure of cell wall, such as spiral thickenings.

As the name suggests, the wood from these trees is generally harder than that of softwoods, but there are significant exceptions. In both groups there is an enormous variation in actual wood hardness, with the range in density in hardwoods completely including that of softwoods; some hardwoods (e.g., balsa) are softer than most softwoods, while yew is an example of a hard softwood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardwood



Fascinating! So it's all down to how the trees "get it on."  ;D ;D





EDIT:  Let's tack on an update real quick...      I had an amazingly brief day of work. Picked up trash from the big shopping center then mowed two lawns and made it home just shy of 9AM!!   YAY!! FANTASTIC!  Good deal, too, because I feel rather lousy. Just generally worn out and a bit nasueaus, etc. It's the humidity!! It's way high and ALWAYS makes me feel like garbage. BUT ANYWAY... yeah, I'm now home, chores done, and have allll day to work on this neat lil wing thing.

So, the PSR is all done now to best of my knowledge. It all looks great but I'll know more after the next round of primer. I have the can of that sitting out on top of the AC unit warming up and should be at operating temperature within the next half hour or so then I just have to hit this thing with a couple quick shots and see what the score is.

I feel pretty confident about it being just fine. All I had to do was smooth out the joins on the intakes and a little bit where I went wide with the glue on the bottom side fins. So, if this is good like I think it will be I'll be in paint by early afternoon.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 14, 2018, 02:17:00 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/FuxDwTB.jpg)
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2018, 02:20:55 pm
Pretty.
Leave it like that.
 ;)
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 14, 2018, 02:45:01 pm
Ha!  ;D      "Pepto-Abysmol"


It does look pretty good, though. One more coat and it would be about perfect and I could leave it. I entertained thoughts of turning this whole thing pink for evening time interceptor.  ;D ;D


'Bout ready for yellow I think. I'm going to go ahead with one more coat of pink. I was about to skip it but I think I'd like to get the rest of the darker areas in the interior evened out so I can have a true result from the experiment. I'll take pictures after each coat of yeller to see what it looks like. (unless I forget, which is likely.)   ;D  I'll at least get the first coat! Not going to thin the paint any; it's about the same consistency as the pink and it went down flat enough. Helps having a nice quality, wide brush, too.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 14, 2018, 05:30:17 pm
After one coat:

(https://i.imgur.com/abxFyZT.jpg)

After 3:
(https://i.imgur.com/bmsY9Ej.jpg)
Still dark patches on the interior.

After 6:
(https://i.imgur.com/wzyusUU.jpg)
Dark patches eliminated.



I definitely like pink as a base for yellow! I still had to put on a bunch of coats to really get all of the thin parts covered but that may be down to technique as much as anything. I've noticed that in painting large expanses that the interiors always even out last and darker shades persist until after numerous coats.

That's it for now, though. After so many coats I have a ridge and clean up to sand away/paint over. I'd rather this acrylic paint dry thoroughly before I do that so I'm not going to push the issue and trash this thing. There's still plenty of time left!  :thumbsup:

BUT... after some of that... I'm just going to paint the green on and leave the primer grey as it works perfectly fine for the second color of the upper camo..

In other news, all the gear and doors are painted.

Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: Mossie on June 15, 2018, 01:49:02 am
Looking great, keep going. :thumbsup:

I did something similar a while ago, mine was a captured aircraft though.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Mossie105/Horten%20Ho-229%20RAF/FinishedUpperside.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Mossie105/Horten%20Ho-229%20RAF/FinishedUnderside.jpg)
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: zenrat on June 15, 2018, 03:59:50 am
I use white undercoat as a base for yellow.  Do you think pink is better?
Maybe I should do a side by side comparison.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2018, 05:20:50 am
Looking great, keep going. :thumbsup:

I did something similar a while ago, mine was a captured aircraft though.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Mossie105/Horten%20Ho-229%20RAF/FinishedUpperside.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Mossie105/Horten%20Ho-229%20RAF/FinishedUnderside.jpg)

Ohhh yeah!!! There we go!!  That hits the spot. They're going to be pretty similar looking if all goes as planned. Mine won't be nearly as refined and nice though!! That's some good work, there.  :mellow: :mellow:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2018, 05:24:40 am
I use white undercoat as a base for yellow.  Do you think pink is better?
Maybe I should do a side by side comparison.


I was using white as well and I have to say I rather like pink as a replacement. Marginally so, but it definitely wasn't worse than white. The novelty of it adds in a bit of cool factor. Also, I imagine the specific hue or shade of yellow you wan't in the end might make a difference. Seems like the pink might yield a warmer, more sunny and golden shade of yellow whereas white might give a brighter, lighter yellow.  SHRUG. 

In conclusion: It's probably a "take it or leave it" deal but I like it and I think I'll start using it instead of white.


By all means, do a Side by Side! It would be easy, look cool, and be scientific! 
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: NARSES2 on June 15, 2018, 06:53:14 am
I'll use white for small areas I want to paint yellow but pink for larger ones. I do use a paler pink then the "Chronic" has used though. It can also be complicated by the exact hue of yellow you are using and indeed who's yellow you are using  :banghead: Why the heck is yellow so difficult ?
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2018, 07:41:46 am
I think I like it better than red at least.  ;D ;D


Funny you mentioned that about the ligther pink... I didn't pay any attention to it at the store (just grabbed the pinkest pink I could find in my preferred brand) but after I started painting it on it seemed "different" from what I was expecting. I noticed it isn't called just "pink," rather Taffeta pink and it struck me as being... ohhhhh...  I don't know... "fuller" or perhaps "darker" or "richer" than what I was initially expecting. Less Barbie, more Pepto-Bismol? My yellow is the same way, though! I have some others that seem lighter and the one I used is more golden and sunny. Less mustard, more American school bus.

(https://i.imgur.com/EhANn6W.jpg)


Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2018, 06:25:11 am
I use Vallejo Pink with a fair bit of white added. Nothing scientific, but out of the bottle it takes far to many coats of yellow to cover it.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 16, 2018, 02:52:47 pm
HMMMMM....   so "light pink." I'm going to try that next.  :mellow: :mellow:


Speaking of paint... I'm done with all that on this. It took a lot longer than I thought to get all the touch up and small stuff finalized but it's worth it in the end, of course. I decided to make a slight modification to the scheme. It's subtle and doesn't ruin the properties of the camo but makes it better I think.

Waiting on the last bit in the wheel wells to dry up then I'm going to  gloss it. It only has like 10 or less transfers so I'll be done with that soon as well.

One problem.... my head wasn't screwed on straight this morning and I forgot to pick up more satin or matte clear so this thing is going to have a glossy finish.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 16, 2018, 06:05:08 pm
Holy Crap, this got intense at the end. WAAAAAY more work than I thought I had left just getting all the little odds and ends taken care of. Not the least of which was putting the canopy together and dry fitting it and making adjustments. It worked before the last coat of clear so it should work after. That's all I have left... I'm letting it dry a bit then I'll put the canopy on and it's done.

That said, it turned out way better than I thought it would.  :thumbsup:

Pics soon!
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 16, 2018, 06:58:29 pm
What if WWII hadn't wrapped up in 1945? What if Northrop sent a flying wing type contraption to the RAE for trials?

1/72 RS Models XP-79B acyrlics with hairy stick. OOB with no mods other than slight deviation from painting instructions (which are fiction anyway . .. . ) 



(https://i.imgur.com/OX8qppB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pjW0G5c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ilCIUBm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/emKVSBM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RcnMVYZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/H6IVUnD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ctVcMr2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/td6qsDp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AQCqqV7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tL9GOrN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KHfFYJY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/R7NUyYu.jpg)


And..... it doesn't tail-sit!  :thumbsup:  I crammed a ton of lead in there. This sucker has some weight to it. As I mentioned prior, it makes it nice being a weighty piece! It's a delight to pick it up and look at it without it feeling flimsy and ready to fly off like a wet bar of soap just from trying to handle it.

The kit was a bit squirrely but I can definitely recommend it to model builders that have a bit of skills about them. It's nothing new, really, the fixes.....  if you have some decent files, sand paper, patience, and hands not made of sticks of butter you, too, can make a nice example!  :lol: :lol: I'm pretty impressed!


Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2018, 02:40:04 am
Good job there Brad C.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 17, 2018, 05:57:03 am
It certainly suits the camouflage scheme. Well done mate, lovely effort on an interesting kt  :thumbsup:

You've now got me thinking of a British Pacific Fleet kamikaze catcher  &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2018, 06:33:17 am
Thanks y'all!!!   



^Get on down, that sounds good. I'd like to see more of these made up in different ways. They're pretty neat if you ask me and now I want to see a whole bunch of them.  :mellow: :mellow:


I'd like to build one and give it twin booms.  Kinda sorta jet-P38-ish (loosely) .  ;D ;D  These little kits are fun just to think about. I'd buy a stack of them if they were $5 a piece.  :wacko:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: Mossie on June 17, 2018, 08:17:02 am
Thanks y'all!!!   



^Get on down, that sounds good. I'd like to see more of these made up in different ways. They're pretty neat if you ask me and now I want to see a whole bunch of them.  :mellow: :mellow:


I'd like to build one and give it twin booms.  Kinda sorta jet-P38-ish (loosely) .  ;D ;D  These little kits are fun just to think about. I'd buy a stack of them if they were $5 a piece.  :wacko:

Good job on it, I can definitely see the RAF taking one for evaluation. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2018, 09:00:05 am
Thanks Mossie! Neat little things there. I think Northrop was a man ahead of his time and RS Models made a very nice kit of it.  :mellow: :mellow: Things went pretty smoothly and boy am I glad!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 17, 2018, 10:01:15 am

I'd like to build one and give it twin booms.  Kinda sorta jet-P38-ish (loosely) .  ;D ;D


Then you'd need even MORE nose weight!  :o
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on June 17, 2018, 10:45:17 am
Good job - & something really different! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: AS.12 on June 17, 2018, 12:59:06 pm
Oooooh!  That made me look twice. Fairly sure I saw that in the back of one of the Putnam books. Armstrong-Whitworth Anvil F.Mk.1B?  That rings a bell.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 18, 2018, 02:27:38 am
Thanks Mossie! Neat little things there. I think Northrop was a man ahead of his time and RS Models made a very nice kit of it.  :

Very much so to both. RS have come on leaps and bounds and there latest stuff is up there with the best of the limited run stuff
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 18, 2018, 02:48:09 am
Thanks everyone!!! 

And.... yeah....  woo....  here's the cool thing, believe it or not, there was more room to fit weight inside but with diminishing returns as it has to be placed closer to the main gear. But, there were other little nooks and crannies where mashed up lead flattened out (like I did with a couple pieces ) would fit in there so it might be possible.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: Mossie on June 19, 2018, 02:27:24 am
I've got a trick for working out if you've got enough weight.  Put your weight in, then dry fit your major parts, holding them with masking tape.  Balance the model on something like a pencil or brush, where the rear undercarriage sits.  If it falls backwards, keep adding weight until it tips forwards, I usually then add a little bit more for good measure, to account for those little parts that might just tip the balance back again.  Doesn't have to be in the nose, anything in front of the tipping point will work, although the further from it the better.
Title: Re: RAE XP-79B "Flying Ram", RAE Farnborough (FINISHED Pics pg. 3)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 19, 2018, 06:48:09 am
That's great, thanks for the tip! I'll remember that next go round. At some points I just sort of balance it on my fingers where the main gear go but that's not very "scientific." I'm always worried that I didn't put quite enough weight inside. Ironically, this probably leads me to wasting weight by adding in more than I need.  ;D ;D