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Title: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Bungle on September 29, 2017, 07:44:59 am
Haven't actually posted any models on here for sometime. Mainly doing real world but as we all know that can get boring  :-\

So there was I clearing out a lot of kits, thinning the stash when I came upon the Emhar Lockheed F-94C Starfire and I thought I'd give that a go. As soon as I started a little voice said   :wacko:'RAF , it's got to be RAF' :wacko: so who am I to ignore that little voice (it also works in modelshops, outside chipshops and anytime I'm near a bar). So yes it was going to be RAF ..... decals from the spares box ?? or how about from the Airfix Swift I hadn't yet secreted into the stash of forgotten souls. And with that came how do I dress the Swift.... in the Starfires garb.... and so started Project Swapshop

Nothing fancy here OOB builds but each aircraft wearing the others decals.....
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Bungle on September 29, 2017, 07:50:03 am
So with no further adieu, no Noel Edmonds, no furry sidekick (excluding SWMBO) Project Swapshop starts with the Lockheed F-94C Swift and the Supermarine Starfire F.1

 Lockheed F-94C Swift

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/9485/0eSaBE.jpg)



Supermarine Starfire F.1

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/2571/tpxPq4.jpg)


Together....


(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/8339/1yVqz1.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Gondor on September 29, 2017, 07:57:02 am
They look rather nice, especially the F-94  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Bungle on September 29, 2017, 07:57:57 am
Post #2

Project Swapshop

The Cessna A-167 Strikemaster

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/9249/9R5xZE.jpg)


BAC 37 Provost Bird

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/2421/Fqmzlb.jpg)


Together

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9167/vWxKkT.jpg)


More to come  ;D
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Old Wombat on September 29, 2017, 08:17:26 am
The Strikemaster & the Provost almost look like the same bleedin' plane anyway! :o
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 29, 2017, 08:41:24 am
I thought the camo'd JP WAS an A-37 to kick off!

The Swift looks superb in USAF markings.  :thumbsup:

Darn good idea that, Javelin/Scorpion? Valiant/B-47? KC-135/VC10?
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Bungle on September 29, 2017, 11:46:04 am
Darn good idea that, Javelin/Scorpion? Valiant/B-47? KC-135/VC10?

Well thank you... nothing so (big) obvious.  Just completed waiting their photoshoot - a Henschel Hs-11C Hühnerhabicht  and a Curtiss F123-A1
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: kerick on September 29, 2017, 03:39:31 pm
The Starfire/Swift switch is great! Wish I had thought of that!
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Rick Lowe on September 29, 2017, 06:07:18 pm
Agreed, the Starfire/Swift swap works well.

Seahawk/Skyray?
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: NARSES2 on September 30, 2017, 02:30:20 am
Really nice builds but favourite is the F-94C Swift  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 30, 2017, 03:38:30 am
Very nice stuff here!!! 
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Dizzyfugu on September 30, 2017, 03:50:32 am
They look rather nice, especially the F-94  :thumbsup:

Gondor

Second that, and confirms my plan to build an F-94 in a similar livery (not RAF, though, but another NATO partner). Will be a Heller F-94B, though, but no idea when it might materialize.
The Swift looks sexy in the USAF markings, too.  :thumbsup:, twice.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Weaver on September 30, 2017, 10:50:46 am
They're all nice, but the Starfire in RAF markings is really a star. Still trying to work out exactly why: maybe it looks too old-fashioned for it's real-world silver livery and it sits better with the Meteor/Vampire generation in cammo? Anyway, well done! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Bungle on October 01, 2017, 03:36:36 am

Post #3

Project Swapshop

Henschel Hs-11C Hühnerhabicht

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/7617/Eb9M79.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/1222/UAEU0M.jpg)


Curtiss F123-A1

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/3703/aD5QAC.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/6771/uah57C.jpg)


Together

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1522/WUCj2A.jpg)

More to come.... on the table Yakolev Yak-130-200  and a BAe 130 Hawk II
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 01, 2017, 03:48:44 am
Are you SURE you swapped the paint jobs on those two? They look very RW to me, but I don't 'see' biplanes really.  ;D
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Dizzyfugu on October 01, 2017, 03:53:01 am
They're all nice, but the Starfire in RAF markings is really a star. Still trying to work out exactly why: maybe it looks too old-fashioned for it's real-world silver livery and it sits better with the Meteor/Vampire generation in cammo? Anyway, well done! :thumbsup:

Because one is not used to a camouflaged F-94 at all! That iself is pretty weird. I imagine one in SEA colors, too...  :rolleyes:

The Curtiss F123-A1 looks great, too. Recently came across a Ju 87 in coclorful USN markings, and it did not look bad either (even though its inline engine would make it rather unprobable).
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: zenrat on October 01, 2017, 03:57:07 am
These are great.  I particularly like the biplanes.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: NARSES2 on October 01, 2017, 04:34:17 am
The two bipe's are  :bow: Can't choose
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 01, 2017, 06:26:24 pm
The biplanes just... work! And well too!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 06, 2017, 05:30:41 pm
Love the two bipes and the camo'ed Starfire.  :wub:

<...> a camouflaged F-94 <...> I imagine one in SEA colors, too...  :rolleyes: <...>

JASDF? ROKAF? ROCAF? Would all look lovely!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop Update
Post by: Bungle on October 15, 2017, 08:20:28 am

Post #4

Project Swapshop

Yakolev Yak-130-200  'Fake'

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6070/cevyEU.jpg)

BAe 130 Hawk II


(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9921/4Vv3wC.jpg)


Together

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/331/xUnX90.jpg)


Next under the knife - T2 or not T2? that is the question  :-X
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: NARSES2 on October 16, 2017, 06:03:52 am
They work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 16, 2017, 02:15:37 pm
Love these tiny fighters. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 16, 2017, 02:54:14 pm
Oh cool!!! Russian one is my fav.  :lol:

Hawk II is awesome... I never seen one before.   :mellow:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Old Wombat on October 16, 2017, 06:41:10 pm
Oh cool!!! Russian one is my fav.  :lol:

Hawk II is awesome... I never seen one before.   :mellow:

Swap the types, Brad, & you have the actual aircraft, Bungle's just swapping schemes & markings between aircraft. ;)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Bungle on October 17, 2017, 06:08:05 am
Oh cool!!! Russian one is my fav.  :lol:

Hawk II is awesome... I never seen one before.   :mellow:

Swap the types, Brad, & you have the actual aircraft, Bungle's just swapping schemes & markings between aircraft. ;)

You can fool some of the people some of the time and hopefully my wife ALL of the time.  ;D

BTW there's a lot of filler in the Yak (real yak) !
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 17, 2017, 07:11:43 am
Oh cool!!! Russian one is my fav.  :lol:

Hawk II is awesome... I never seen one before.   :mellow:

Swap the types, Brad, & you have the actual aircraft, Bungle's just swapping schemes & markings between aircraft. ;)
My kind of shenannigans!!!!  :laugh: :laugh:

Oh cool!!! Russian one is my fav.  :lol:

Hawk II is awesome... I never seen one before.   :mellow:

Swap the types, Brad, & you have the actual aircraft, Bungle's just swapping schemes & markings between aircraft. ;)

You can fool some of the people some of the time and hopefully my wife ALL of the time.  ;D

BTW there's a lot of filler in the Yak (real yak) !

 :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: zenrat on October 17, 2017, 06:23:26 pm
Another good pairing.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Bungle on November 04, 2017, 01:21:13 pm
Post #5

Project Swapshop

T2 or not T2 that is the question....

Mitsubishi T-2-!! Jagā

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/4420/IlDM9K.jpg)


Sepecat Jaguar T-2-II


(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/2701/5N658N.jpg)


And together

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/6041/MlyRbH.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 04, 2017, 01:25:57 pm
I never could tell the difference between them anyway, so those two look totally RW to me.  ;D

But both splendid nonetheless.  :thumbsup:

A YS-11 and an Andover next maybe?  ;)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: DogfighterZen on November 04, 2017, 01:32:02 pm
Nice idea and builds! :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Gondor on November 04, 2017, 02:00:32 pm
Often thought of swapping over the Mitsubishi T-2 and Jaguar T-2 over like that as like Kit say's its difficult to tell the two of them apart if the other is not there  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Leading Observer on November 04, 2017, 02:21:32 pm
This has a strong Whif of Group Build about it........
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: NARSES2 on November 05, 2017, 06:22:24 am
I never could tell the difference between them anyway, so those two look totally RW to me.  ;D



You and me both. Lovely builds  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: McColm on November 07, 2017, 02:27:02 am
Great work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Weaver on November 07, 2017, 04:10:29 am
Nice one (two) Bungle - they look great!  :thumbsup:


I never could tell the difference between them anyway, so those two look totally RW to me.  ;D

But both splendid nonetheless.  :thumbsup:

From the front: Mitsu T-2 has a radome, curved intakes with splitter plates and one Starfighter-style Vulcan cannon under the cockpit LH side, Jag T.2 has a tin nose, square intakes with no intake splitter plates and two ADEN guns under the intakes.

From the top/bottom: Mitsu T-2 wing has tip pylons, a straight trailing edge and larger triangular LERX, Jag T.2 has no tip pylons a kinked trailing edge and small curved LERX

From the back: Mitsu T-2 fin has a much broader root and more leading edge sweep no bulge in the spine and ventral fins well forward of the engine nozzles. Jag T.2 has a narrower fin, a bulged spine and ventral fins that are rifght up against the engine nozzles.

On the ground: Mitsu T-2 has single wheels on all gear, Jag T.2 has twins.





Title: Re: Project Swapshop Update
Post by: Knightflyer on November 07, 2017, 05:40:36 am

Post #4

Project Swapshop

Yakolev Yak-130-200  'Fake'

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6070/cevyEU.jpg)

BAe 130 Hawk II


(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9921/4Vv3wC.jpg)


Together

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/331/xUnX90.jpg)


Next under the knife - T2 or not T2? that is the question  :-X

I'm liking all of these - but I'm thinking the Hawk II (Yak) looks like it could have easily been the subject of one of the conceptual drawings produced by BAe at some point in the 1980/90s in some way?
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - Final update
Post by: Bungle on December 20, 2017, 12:07:23 pm

Post #5

Project Swapshop

Hawker Sea Raider

(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/8522/fdhgfy.jpg)

Douglas AD6-X Skyfury

(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4637/ZqgPID.jpg)


Together

(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/6158/X4W4MG.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - Final update
Post by: Bungle on December 20, 2017, 12:10:39 pm

Post #6 and last

Project Swapshop

Supermarine Skyray F.1


(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3351/PPJDzg.jpg)


Douglas F4S Scimitar

(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/5251/kDjQjy.jpg)


Together

(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3944/uKnmvw.jpg)

Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 20, 2017, 02:10:20 pm
Both of them look particularly good in the opposing schemes.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 20, 2017, 06:46:52 pm
Outstanding, man!!! I really am digging the Sea Raider and Sky Fury especially!!  :bow: :bow: :party: :party:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: NARSES2 on December 21, 2017, 06:16:48 am
Both of them look particularly good in the opposing schemes.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

They do indeed, the Sea Raider in particular  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Dizzyfugu on December 22, 2017, 07:12:24 am
Nice swaps! I esp. like the Scimitar in USMC markings, but the Sea Fury without a spinner looks beefy, too. Totally changes the look of the aircraft.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 22, 2017, 08:28:18 am

Nice swaps! I esp. like the Scimitar in USMC markings, but the Sea Fury without a spinner looks beefy, too. Totally changes the look of the aircraft.  :thumbsup:


It looks pretty much like a Skyraider in fact.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: JayBee on December 22, 2017, 11:56:13 am
A couple of years ago I did two models in this same idea. I will not put a link to the old post as all the photos were then with botophucket, but here is the story.


There is an old joke.

How to confuse an Irish Navvy?

Answer :

Hold up two shovels and tell him to take his pick!

So the modern version would be :

How to confuse a JMN?

Show him two models of similar types from the same time period, that are not what they seem, and wait for his head to explode!


The story so far.

In the late 1940’s research going on, on both sides of the Atlantic into the best configuration for swept wing jets.
In particular there was much debate about whether swept wing jets would require a tailplane or not.
In America the Northrop Corperation produced an experimental type in the form of the X-4 Bantam. (The X stood for Experimental).
While in Great Britain the DeHavilland Aircraft Company produced the DH-108 Swallow.
Both designs did produce one definite result. At higher speeds the aircraft all showed reduced longitudinal stability (commonly known as “Porpoising”).

The models :

Planet Models DH 108 Swallow.
&
MPM Northrop X-4 Bantam.

They just underwent a bit of a transformation.

The Swallow got a new canopy (to lose the framing detail) modified from an F-16 (no idea what kit it came from), a long nose probe, and a pitot tube mounted high on the leading edge of the fin.

The Bantam got a shortened, and reshaped, fin, and two wingtip mounted pitot tubes.

Then the colour schemes and markings were swapped over.

Now the finished result :


(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/125/thd25L.jpg)




Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: NARSES2 on December 23, 2017, 02:17:40 am
Very neat Jim  :thumbsup:

I built the Swallow in RAF high altitude scheme (one of my first resin builds) now maybe I should put my X-4 in USSAF operational colours ?
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 25, 2017, 03:14:17 am
I do like the Sea Fury/Skyraider swap - that worked really well.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 26, 2017, 07:39:17 am
OK, I was thinking about your glorious project this morning as I was waking up when I had an idea for a couple of planes for you to swap around if you have the time/kits:

CF-100 and F-89.   :mellow: :mellow:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 26, 2017, 02:04:31 pm
A Javelin and an F-89 too?

I've thought of doing a wing swap between them, and while a delta F-89 looks sort of OK, those massively thick wings really don't do it justice. But a straight winged Flat Iron looks pretty darn good......
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: Nick on January 17, 2018, 11:00:12 am
Post #5

Project Swapshop

T2 or not T2 that is the question....

Mitsubishi T-2-!! Jagā

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/6041/MlyRbH.jpg)

Did I mention the time I confused an RAF Squadron Leader at the model show in RAF Museum at Hendon?

He was sure he'd flown in one of the RAF Jaguars I was displaying. Trouble was they were a Mitsubishi F-1 and a T-2  :wacko:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop
Post by: NARSES2 on January 18, 2018, 01:19:37 am

Did I mention the time I confused an RAF Squadron Leader at the model show in RAF Museum at Hendon?

He was sure he'd flown in one of the RAF Jaguars I was displaying. Trouble was they were a Mitsubishi F-1 and a T-2  :wacko:

 ;D ;D ;D Probably knew which knife and fork to use though  :angel:  Sorry Dave  ;)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: AS.12 on January 18, 2018, 02:30:31 am
This is a great thread.

I don't have the skills to deliver it, but I do daydream occasionally of a BOAC Il-62..
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 18, 2018, 02:46:30 am
This is a great thread.

I don't have the skills to deliver it, but I do daydream occasionally of a BOAC Il-62..


Hm, somewhere I have a PanAm Trident and a BEA 727-100 that have been 'in build' for many decades. I should look them out.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: McColm on January 20, 2018, 08:36:20 am
The Avro Shackleton and the Lockheed Neptune could be swapped over as evaluation aircraft, so could the Lockheed P-3 Orion and the Breguet Br.1150 Atlantic.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: JayBee on January 20, 2018, 09:12:05 am
Very neat Jim  :thumbsup:

I built the Swallow in RAF high altitude scheme (one of my first resin builds) now maybe I should put my X-4 in USSAF operational colours ?

The Swallow was my first ever resin full kit build.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Scotaidh on February 11, 2018, 04:09:33 am
OK, I was thinking about your glorious project this morning as I was waking up when I had an idea for a couple of planes for you to swap around if you have the time/kits:

CF-100 and F-89.   :mellow: :mellow:

Your post immediately triggered the thought - What about the Clunk & Bucc?   :lol:

Then I thought that if one were really ambitious, one could do a three-way swap - CF-100, F-89, and Buccaneer   :wacko:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 11, 2018, 04:14:11 am
I have an idea that someone on here did an RCAF Bucc some years ago. It certainly looked 'different'........  ;)
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Weaver on February 11, 2018, 06:32:52 pm
How about a B-52 and a Tu-95? Both available in 1/144th if you don't want to break the bank/marriage.

Surely the natural swaps for a Buccaneer would be either an A-6 Intruder (RN/USN markings) or an F-105 (RAF/USAF markings)?

How about a three-way (ooh-err  ;) ) between an F-111, a Tornado and an Su-24 Fencer? F-111 in Soviet markings, Fencer in RAF/Luftwaffe/Italian markings, and Fencer in USAF markings.

EE Lightning and an Su-7? Both extreme-sweep designs, and the Su-7 was originally intended as a fighter before it was moved to the attack role, so maybe put it in an NMF scheme and give it some AA-1 Alkalis? Alternatively, use a Mig-21, Su-9 or Su-11. You could even put Firestreaks on the Su and Alkalis on the Lightning: the latter are short, so they'd probably fit on the Lightning's inboard wing, ahead of the undercarriage bay on the original Russian pylons. To confuse matter even further, you could put a pair the distinctively Russian MiG-21 drop tanks on the Lightning's overwing pylons... :wacko:

Vautour and a Yak-25/27/28?

Mirage 2000 and an F-16?

Curtiss P-40 or Vought Corsair swapped with a Dewoitine D.520? Both designs with the cockpit relatively far back.

Mitsubishi J2M Raiden and a razorback P-47 Thunderbolt: both big, beefy radial-engined designs.

Gloster Gladiator and Polikarpov I-153 or I-152?

Gloster Gladiator and PZL P.11c or, better yet P.24 (enclosed cockpit GR-engined export version)


The Avro Shackleton and the Lockheed Neptune could be swapped over as evaluation aircraft, so could the Lockheed P-3 Orion and the Breguet Br.1150 Atlantic.

The RAF actually flew Neptunes though, so it wouldn't look out of place in UK markings. The P-3/Atlantic swap sounds good though: they're in different size/range categories, so you might imagine the USN taking on the Atlantic as a natural replacement for the Neptune, in exchange for the French taking the Orion as a long-range complement to the Atlantic.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 11, 2018, 06:48:53 pm
I have a Zvesda Fencer... and now I also have a huge hankering to make it a SEA camo 'Nam bird...   :unsure: :mellow: :mellow:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: McColm on February 11, 2018, 07:15:22 pm
How about a B-52 and a Tu-95? Both available in 1/144th if you don't want to break the bank/marriage.

Surely the natural swaps for a Buccaneer would be either an A-6 Intruder (RN/USN markings) or an F-105 (RAF/USAF markings)?

How about a three-way (ooh-err  ;) ) between an F-111, a Tornado and an Su-24 Fencer? F-111 in Soviet markings, Fencer in RAF/Luftwaffe/Italian markings, and Fencer in USAF markings.

EE Lightning and an Su-7? Both extreme-sweep designs, and the Su-7 was originally intended as a fighter before it was moved to the attack role, so maybe put it in an NMF scheme and give it some AA-1 Alkalis? Alternatively, use a Mig-21, Su-9 or Su-11. You could even put Firestreaks on the Su and Alkalis on the Lightning: the latter are short, so they'd probably fit on the Lightning's inboard wing, ahead of the undercarriage bay on the original Russian pylons. To confuse matter even further, you could put a pair the distinctively Russian MiG-21 drop tanks on the Lightning's overwing pylons... :wacko:

Vautour and a Yak-25/27/28?

Mirage 2000 and an F-16?

Curtiss P-40 or Vought Corsair swapped with a Dewoitine D.520? Both designs with the cockpit relatively far back.

Mitsubishi J2M Raiden and a razorback P-47 Thunderbolt: both big, beefy radial-engined designs.

Gloster Gladiator and Polikarpov I-153 or I-152?

Gloster Gladiator and PZL P.11c or, better yet P.24 (enclosed cockpit GR-engined export version)


The Avro Shackleton and the Lockheed Neptune could be swapped over as evaluation aircraft, so could the Lockheed P-3 Orion and the Breguet Br.1150 Atlantic.

The RAF actually flew Neptunes though, so it wouldn't look out of place in UK markings. The P-3/Atlantic swap sounds good though: they're in different size/range categories, so you might imagine the USN taking on the Atlantic as a natural replacement for the Neptune, in exchange for the French taking the Orion as a long-range complement to the Atlantic.
On the bench I have the Revell Breguet Atlantic with the wings and engines from the Hasegawa Lockheed P-3 Orion. The Mach2 Breguet Atlantic has a pair of turbofans instead of the Tyne engines.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Weaver on February 11, 2018, 07:40:16 pm
Any combination of Tu-22 Blinder, B-58 Hustler and Mirage IV?  :wub:

Tu-22M Backfire or Tu-160 Blackjack and a Rockwell B-1?

Luftwaffe Do.24 and an RAF or USN Catalina?

Beaufighter and a Bf 110?

Noratlas and a C-119?

Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 11, 2018, 11:41:29 pm

Noratlas and a C-119?


What? You mean they really AREN'T the same aircraft?  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: The Rat on February 12, 2018, 03:48:12 am
Can't believe the incredible work you've done on all of these, just mind blowing! Impossible to pick any favorites, every one is a winner.  :thumbsup: :bow:

An idea I had a while ago was a Sunderland/Emily swap, but finding the second one is getting difficult and expensive. You can steal that idea if you wish.  :mellow:
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: McColm on February 12, 2018, 04:23:03 am
The Sud Caravelle and the de Havilland Comet. Apart from the tail end, windows , wings and engines. They are almost the same.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 12, 2018, 04:26:11 am

The Sud Caravelle and the de Havilland Comet. Apart from the tail end, windows , wings and engines. They are almost the same.


The trouble with doing that swap is that Air France really DID have Comets.

Ok, they were Comet 1s and they didn't have them for very long, but that half of the swap wouldn't be a swap.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Rheged on February 12, 2018, 05:51:51 am
The Sud Caravelle and the de Havilland Comet. Apart from the tail end, windows , wings and engines. They are almost the same.

I understand that the prototype Caravelle nose WAS a Comet.  If you look very closely at the photos, you can see evidence of PSR work where the joint is. Wikipedia says " Sud's design licensed several fuselage features from British aircraft company de Havilland, whom Sud had already made previous dealings with in respect to several earlier designs. The nose area and cockpit layout were both taken directly from the de Havilland Comet jet airliner, while the rest of the airliner was locally designed".
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 12, 2018, 06:17:24 am
Even more bizarre was that de Havilland tested the Comet cockpit grafted onto the front of a Horsa glider!
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Old Wombat on February 12, 2018, 06:45:26 am

How about a three-way (ooh-err  ;) ) between an F-111, a Tornado and an Su-24 Fencer? F-111 in Soviet markings, Fencer in RAF/Luftwaffe/Italian markings, and Fencer in USAF markings.


Slightly confused about this idea as written. :o
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Weaver on February 12, 2018, 04:56:31 pm

How about a three-way (ooh-err  ;) ) between an F-111, a Tornado and an Su-24 Fencer? F-111 in Soviet markings, Fencer in RAF/Luftwaffe/Italian markings, and Fencer in USAF markings.


Slightly confused about this idea as written. :o

Ahhhh..... spherical objects... :banghead: Let's try again:

F-111 in Soviet markings, Fencer in Tornado markings (i.e. RAF or Luftwaffe or Italian) and Tornado in USAF markings.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: AS.12 on February 12, 2018, 11:45:46 pm
F-111 in Soviet marking

That rang a small bell in the recesses of my brainhole:

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,18821.msg646598.html#msg646598
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 13, 2018, 09:10:25 am
F-111 in Soviet marking

That rang a small bell in the recesses of my brainhole:

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,18821.msg646598.html#msg646598


Oh yes, one of Spinners' wonderful 'swap jobs'.  :thumbsup:

And right below the F-111/Su-24s is a Soviet Bucc, lovely stuff.

How I miss Spinners' inspiring work, I've got a SwAF 'Acrojets' Lightning to do from his artwork and that REALLY looks the business.
Title: Re: Project Swapshop - an update
Post by: Weaver on February 13, 2018, 05:58:22 pm
Yeah, for some reason I fell in love with his Gloster Grebe, which was a MiG-17 in NMF with RAF Javelin-style markings.