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GROUP BUILDS => The 2017 One Week Build => Topic started by: NARSES2 on May 10, 2017, 01:47:10 pm

Title: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on May 10, 2017, 01:47:10 pm
Right here's the place to raise any questions or for any general chat about the GB

Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: loupgarou on May 10, 2017, 03:26:42 pm
Thanks for the "resurrection" GB.  :thumbsup:
As I suppose (and hope) will be done also for the other GB, I have a general question:
If, after the end of the "regular" GB, a member continues working on the model, is it eligible for the next "resurrected" GB, or everything must be left in the state from a GB to the next?
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on May 11, 2017, 06:23:40 am
Thanks for the "resurrection" GB.  :thumbsup:
As I suppose (and hope) will be done also for the other GB, I have a general question:
If, after the end of the "regular" GB, a member continues working on the model, is it eligible for the next "resurrected" GB, or everything must be left in the state from a GB to the next?

The plan is to have the "resurrection" section in all future G.B.'s

As for your specific question ? I'll leave that to Kitbasher, the Moderator, as it's his idea in the first place. (classic cop out  ;))
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: sandiego89 on May 11, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
I should be able to play this year, thinking of Liberty ship doing something it was not intended to do....
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: strobez on May 13, 2017, 09:10:14 pm
I kinda faded out of the Soviet GB (although my Yak-38 will get finished eventually), however I'm intrigued by this 1-week build.

I'm trying to make up my mind between tackling a nicely detailed OOB kit, like one of the newer Airfix ones (either a Tiger Moth or an F4F-4 Wildcat) or an old kit like the Airfix Fiat G.91...  which might cause me to do some involuntary scratch building (I'm not sure I can bring myself to just do that little detail OOB).

Any advice? Do I tackle a well-engineered modern kit? Or do I try to just slap together an older, less detailed kit?
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: zenrat on May 13, 2017, 10:03:24 pm
What's the critical path on your building?  What holds you up?
With me it's PSR so i'll go with a kit that fits well and do a paint only whiff with maybe some extra weapons hung on it.
If I do do a kitbash it'll be a simple one where the unrelated parts fit together so well (or can be made to fit together so well) that minimal filler is required.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on May 14, 2017, 05:14:44 am
I would say go with a modern well engineered kit like the Airfix F4F-4. Although strangely for a few of the past One Week builds I've done a full resin kit and had no problem completing it. Mainly Planet or Anigrand which go together well and don't have many parts.

Unfortunately I miss this years build although will probably have my own One Week Challenge when I return using an Anigrand kit.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Dizzyfugu on May 14, 2017, 07:10:05 am
Hobby Boss kits are a legit way of cheating in the 1 Week GB. Their F4Fs are nice - not 100% correct concerning engines and cowling, as far as I can tell, but these are good kits if you want to stay close to the OOB model/aircraft.

And an Airfix G.91 can be built in a couple of days, I did a Spanish one during one of the last GB editions, and AFAIK there was still time left for another build...  ;)
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Old Wombat on May 14, 2017, 08:57:24 am
... and AFAIK there was still time left for another build...  ;)

What do you mean "AFAIK"? :o

You probably built another 2 aircraft in the remaining minutes! ;D


 ;)
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Canada on May 14, 2017, 12:32:46 pm
I go see my the doc for a follow up x-ray and consultation on the 23rd, so if I get some good news look for me to enter a few ! Nothing else to do lol
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: sandiego89 on May 14, 2017, 04:03:42 pm

Any advice? Do I tackle a well-engineered modern kit? Or do I try to just slap together an older, less detailed kit?

For me picking the right paint job is the critical aspect to a one week build, as actual "building" can be rather quick- so an newer model may not save that much time, but generally simple, older models are good for the one week build.  Fewer decals helps also.   

I am lucky to get 2 hours at a crack, so picking a scheme that can I can paint and allow dry until the next color is critical.  So it may be best to go with simple schemes (or even one overall color) or bold demarcations and I use rattle cans to speed the dry time.  Last year I did a tri-color scheme, and was spraying on a humid, drizzly night in the back alley behind a hotel!  Not ideal conditions!     
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Weaver on May 14, 2017, 04:53:28 pm
Yes, painting/drying cycles are the critical limiting factor. You might be looking at something like this normally:

Undercoat
Wait 24 hours
Underside colour
Wait 24 hours
Cammo colour A
Wait 24 hours
Cammo Colour B
Wait 24 hours
Gloss coat
Wait 24 hours
Decals
Wait 24 hours
Matt coat
Wait 24 hours

That's seven of your nine days gone waiting for paint/decals to dry!

Fortunately, those 24 hour cycles can be realistically cut to 8 hour ones, but if you're going out to work and/or have family committments, you might not be able to exploit that fully.

Things you can do to cut this down:

Use 8 hour drying times in a warm room if possible. I leave things to dry in an attic with two electric radiators which gets very warm indeed.

Pick a colour scheme with the least number of colours.

Pick a scheme with a gloss or satin finish, so you don't have to matt coat after the decals.

If it has to be a matt scheme, then pick out some good quality decals and use Micro-Set/Micro-Sol so that you don't have to gloss coat before you put them on. If you handle it carefully during final photography, you don't have to matt coat over them either (but do it later, of course).

Consider getting up early and putting a coat of paint on the model before going to work. This gives you two 8(ish) hour drying times per day: one while you're at work and one while you're asleep. Obviously people's circumstances are different and this may not be an option. I'm lucky now in that my new job is 3.15pm to 11.30pm, so I can paint in the morning, let it dry, then paint again before I go to bed.

Pick a scheme where the demarcation between colours corresponds to the breakdown of the parts: that way you can paint two colours separately at the same time and combine them when you assemble the kit. For example, I did a red snowmobile with a black roof and a yellow crane for a 1WkGB: the black roof parts, yellow crane parts and red body parts were all separate, so I didn't have to wait for one to dry before I could paint over it.

Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: jalles on May 14, 2017, 05:46:43 pm
I have a question, I was thinking about vacuforming something for this build. Could I make the molds, vacuform the sheets, and cut them out before the build?  It would essentially be like starting out with a commercial vacuform kit, but this kit would be one I made.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Librarian on May 14, 2017, 06:17:15 pm
Thought I might challenge myself with one from the Kinetic/Kitty Hawk/Skunkworks stable. Always some serious fit problems to keep oneself occupied. Got an F-16XL in the stash so I'll probably have a go at that...God help me :banghead:
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on May 15, 2017, 06:21:00 am
I have a question, I was thinking about vacuforming something for this build. Could I make the molds, vacuform the sheets, and cut them out before the build?  It would essentially be like starting out with a commercial vacuform kit, but this kit would be one I made.

PM Kitbasher as he's the Moderator and will let you know
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: kitbasher on May 20, 2017, 02:02:39 am
Thanks for the "resurrection" GB.  :thumbsup:
As I suppose (and hope) will be done also for the other GB, I have a general question:
If, after the end of the "regular" GB, a member continues working on the model, is it eligible for the next "resurrected" GB, or everything must be left in the state from a GB to the next?

If a resurrection isn't done by the end of the week, then you can either finish it your own time or save it for the next appropriate resurrection thread.  Your call.  The risk is there may not be an appropriate resurrection thread!
So it would be possible to have a one week build taking four weeks spread over as many years, but it'd only be for your own fun.

The plan is to have the "resurrection" section in all future G.B.'s

As for your specific question ? I'll leave that to Kitbasher, the Moderator, as it's his idea in the first place. (classic cop out  ;))
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: kitbasher on May 20, 2017, 02:04:44 am
I have a question, I was thinking about vacuforming something for this build. Could I make the molds, vacuform the sheets, and cut them out before the build?  It would essentially be like starting out with a commercial vacuform kit, but this kit would be one I made.

PM inbound
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: kitbasher on May 20, 2017, 02:05:31 am
P.M. Dave Kit

All done
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Nils on May 20, 2017, 05:38:59 am
i wont be able to join this GB, im having trouble finding bechtime during the middle of the week and im booked for the weekends  :-\
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Gondor on May 20, 2017, 09:14:59 am
I have removed my entries for this GB as I don't think I will be able to dedicate the time required to build anything for it, not even the resurrection build likely to get any further.

Gondor
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 20, 2017, 10:50:19 am
Are we meant to state the build before we start off?

I think this is the first GB I've ever taken part in, and it's CERTAINLY the first 1 Week GB I've ever done. It'll be a miracle if I manage it............  :o
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: zenrat on May 20, 2017, 05:34:34 pm
No need to announce what you're doing before the start.
Some people do, others don't but it's not as if there is a ban on building the same subject as another entrant and thus no need to "bags" your place.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 21, 2017, 02:00:45 am
OK, thanks Fred, I'll keep schtum until D Day.

I might change my mind and do something else, or NOT do anything at all of course.  ;D
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: strobez on May 25, 2017, 08:00:31 am
I've changed my mind three times about what I'm going to do... and I think I'm starting to get stressed out by the short timeline. I'm not sure I can build anything that fast... :banghead:
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Librarian on May 25, 2017, 09:02:34 am
I've changed my mind three times about what I'm going to do... and I think I'm starting to get stressed out by the short timeline. I'm not sure I can build anything that fast... :banghead:

Same story...sick of Jets (so boring to build), half-term with the kids etc etc. Unless its 1/72 and I use a combination of rattlecans I seriously doubt completion :-\
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Mossie on May 25, 2017, 02:57:20 pm
I've changed my mind three times about what I'm going to do... and I think I'm starting to get stressed out by the short timeline. I'm not sure I can build anything that fast... :banghead:

Give it a go. :thumbsup:  If you don't make the deadline, don't worry, you can finish it in your own time afterwards. I've taken part in five 1WGB and only made the deadline once.

I know what you mean about changing your mind.  I'd had my mind made up over a week ago, then I realised I hadn't factored in I'm away for three days! :banghead:  I've been looking all through today at something else I might do, I've picked up four kits in the last the few hours.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Thorvic on May 25, 2017, 03:30:51 pm
I will have to move my own start time back as busy for the Bank Holiday weekend, but as its conversion of a ship I should be able to catch up fairly quickly (Gin Festival Sat Afternoon so daren't start after that, and got a friend staying over Sunday so won't be free till Monday night.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: strobez on May 25, 2017, 07:17:34 pm
I think I've decided to do an Airfix 1/72 Fiat G.91

I originally had plans for a F4F-4 Wildcat, but I uhh... couldn't wait and jumped the gun and started working on it in tandem with another Wildcat build I've been posting on in the WIP section...  :rolleyes:

I think I can use a modified F-8E cockpit tub from the spares box.  So it will really come down to how fast I can scribe some panel lines I think.  I'll give it a go, but I have little hope of completing it on time...
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on May 26, 2017, 06:04:38 am
  I'll give it a go,

That is all anyone can expect  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: kitbasher on May 28, 2017, 09:52:01 am
Are we meant to state the build before we start off?

I think this is the first GB I've ever taken part in, and it's CERTAINLY the first 1 Week GB I've ever done. It'll be a miracle if I manage it............  :o

entirely up to you, Kit.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Leading Observer on May 31, 2017, 06:20:02 am
Dizzy must be getting frustrated - the Finished Builds thread is still locked ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: kitbasher on May 31, 2017, 10:33:53 am
Dizzy must be getting frustrated - the Finished Builds thread is still locked ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ta, will sort it.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 01, 2017, 05:23:06 am
Isn't it a 'Week and a Day' build rather than a '1 week build'?

Rule 1 says it runs from 000l hrs last Saturday to 2400 hrs next Sunday, that's a week and a day.
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on June 01, 2017, 05:28:40 am
Yup, but it nearly is always longer than a week  :rolleyes When Bank Holidays have got involved it's been 10 days in the past  ;D
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: NARSES2 on June 05, 2017, 08:28:12 am
I'm just stunned with the quantity and quality of the entries.

 :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: To all
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Thorvic on June 06, 2017, 02:12:23 am
Isn't it a 'Week and a Day' build rather than a '1 week build'?

Rule 1 says it runs from 000l hrs last Saturday to 2400 hrs next Sunday, that's a week and a day.

Plus we are global so have to factor in we have builds in New Zealand all the way round to the west coast of the USA.

Plus most of us are honest and would have built within our own 7 day timeframe
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Librarian on June 06, 2017, 02:18:27 am
Isn't it a 'Week and a Day' build rather than a '1 week build'?

Rule 1 says it runs from 000l hrs last Saturday to 2400 hrs next Sunday, that's a week and a day.

most of us are honest


That's piqued my interest!!
Title: Re: 2017 One Week Build - The Discussion Thread
Post by: Librarian on June 08, 2017, 02:41:37 am
Could I request that the real time votes for each model be reinstated. It was very useful for a fun research project I'd been conducting on the Forum...kind of knocked a hole in my ongoing stats.