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Title: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: 63cpe on February 04, 2017, 12:01:21 pm
I guess you're all familiar with the Vought A-7 Corsair aka SLUF. But how would it look without the characteristic chin intake? Here my take: The GAF Corsair II....

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For the RAAF the search for a Sabre replacement began in the late 1950s, and when a joint evaluation team from the Departments of Air and Supply visited Europe and North America in the early 60-ies. During this process the RAAF evaluated the Dassault Mirage III, Dassault Mirage 5, Northrop F-5, McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II, Lockheed F-104 Starfighter and the SAAB J-35 Draken before finally selecting the Corsair II in 1968. 
Like the US government the Australian Government insisted to search for a multirole (in the anti-ship, air interdiction and air defense roles) aircraft as a replacement for the CAC Sabre fighters. The anti-ship role required an aircraft to be efficient in low altitude while the air interdiction and air defense roles required a high altitude efficient aircraft. While the lessons learned in the deployment of Canberra’s in Vietnam conflict (The Canberra's were typically operated in the low-level bombing role)dictated an high altitude interdiction and defense role would likely change in the near future to mid to low altitude interception. This changed the requirements and all agreed an multirole subsonic fighter with supersonic and strike capabilities. The Vought A-7 seemed to be a relatively quick and inexpensive way to satisfy this need.

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Built by the Ling-Temco-Vought, the YA-7A made its first flight on 27 September 1965. After several trails the A-7A and B versions were suited unfit for the Australian joint evaluation team as pilots noted a lack of engine thrust. This was later addressed with the A-7D/E. Although it was recognized the turbofan engine provided a dramatic increase in fuel efficiency compared with earlier turbojets.
During 1966 the Australian joint evaluation team got interested in the A-7D (then under development for the USAF TAC) and in 1967 the decision was made to keep the Avon Sabres as the main fighter until a suitable replacement was available. The A-7D differed from the Navy's Corsair II in several ways. For one, the Air Force insisted on significantly more power for its Corsair II version, and it selected the Allison TF41-A-1 turbofan engine, which was a license-built version of the Rolls-Royce Spey. It offered a thrust of 14,500 pounds, over 2000 pounds greater than that of the TF30 that powered the Navy's Corsair IIs. Other changes included a head-up display, a new avionics package, and an M61A1 rotary cannon in place of the two single-barreled 20-mm cannon. Also included was a computerized navigation/weapons delivery system with AN/APQ-126 radar and a head-up display. The first Spey-powered A-7D (67-14854) flew for the first time on 26 September 1968.

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Meanwhile the Australian joint evaluation team contacted Rolls-Royce about the availability of the the afterburning Spey 201 then selected for the Blackburn Buccaneer S2 and F-4K/M as the A-7D was designed for subsonic speeds (Spey 201 turbofans: 12,250 lb thrust dry and 20,515 lb thrust with afterburner). Partly as a means of guaranteeing employment in the Australian aerospace industry, agreement was reached in 1968 that major portions of the RAAF’s Corsairs would be built domestically. The A-7D variant was taken as the basis for the RAAF aircraft, subject to major redesign. The most significant change was the substitution of the larger and more powerful afterburning Rolls-Royce Spey turbofan to allow supersonic interceptions. GAF redesigned and built the entire lower fuselage section with area rule as CAC earlier did with the Avon Sabres. This redesign meant about 50% of the original airframe was changed and the inner hardpoints on the A-7 wings couldn't be used.

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Initially, there was an intention to procure up to 200 aircraft for the RAAF, but the development cost for the changes to accommodate the Spey turbofans meant that the per-unit price eventually ended up three times the price of an A-7D. Because the government then had a policy of negotiating fixed-price contracts, these costs could not be evened out by a large production run, which left the total order at 83.Pilots of the GAF Corsair II lauded the aircraft for general ease of flying (with the exceptions of poor stability on crosswind landings) and excellent forward visibility. The aircraft ceased squadron operations in September 1985.

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Pictured is a No 3 Squadron aircraft stationed at Butterworth in 1969.

Ok, it's a 1/72 Hobby Boss A-7D sectioned and lower half replaced by lower half of an 1/48 F-5 (can recall the brand). All undercarriage parts were re-placed in the F-5 belly. Nose cone was replaced by 1/72 F-4 C/J (Think it was Esci) and  lower half of the nose was the upper half of the F-5 nose. Yeah, it was kinda mix and match with lots of PSR…great fun!

Many thanks to Nick for providing me the decals!  :thumbsup:

More pictures here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/albums/72157679850948706 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/albums/72157679850948706)

Hope you like it!
David
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 04, 2017, 01:19:52 pm
Like it? It's MAGNIFICENT!  :thumbsup:

A superb job of plastic engineering there David, and a terrific backstory too. A Whiffie nomination for sure.
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Librarian on February 04, 2017, 01:27:16 pm
WOW!! :o...really makes you think. Like a Super-Gnat :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 04, 2017, 01:41:06 pm
Brilliant work! Mad skillz.   
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: sandiego89 on February 04, 2017, 01:45:29 pm
Excellent surgery skills!  Well done
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: DogfighterZen on February 04, 2017, 01:49:27 pm
Great work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: The Rat on February 04, 2017, 03:59:33 pm
OMIGAWD!!! BRILLIANT! That's a much sexier looking bit of machinery than the A-7.  :bow: :cheers:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: KiwiZac on February 04, 2017, 05:03:05 pm
Whoa. That is some stunning work!
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Ed S on February 04, 2017, 05:50:40 pm
Nice conversion of a SLUF.
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: kerick on February 04, 2017, 06:18:31 pm
Excellent work and a great concept!
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: rickshaw on February 04, 2017, 08:00:58 pm
Now, that is interesting, indeedy do!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 05, 2017, 12:43:16 am
That's an interesting solution! I always wondered how an A-7 would look like without the chin intake and the deep fuselage, but I never thought of such cheek intakes?!  :blink:
Weird solution, but great work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: zenrat on February 05, 2017, 01:03:09 am
Fabulous piece of work.  Well done.
Not ugly anymore but not pretty either.  Just an Average Bloke?
You could say its gone from SLUF to SLAB maybe.
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: 63cpe on February 05, 2017, 01:38:25 am
Thanks everyone! And many, many thanks for the nomination. I'm humbled by the Academy honouring this model with a nomination and like to thank all my family and friends etc etc.....

I enjoyed this build and was rather easier as anticipated. Although I managed to wreck an airfix A-7 beyond repair in the preparation of this model (The sectioning of the fuselage was too high).

I like the change in nickname to SLAB.... I agree with Zenrat It's not as ugly as the A-7 but not pretty either. It does look rather muscular, like it means business. The nose section looks ok, maybe a bit outlandish/design-ish. While PSR-ing the fuselage i produced the story and like the idea of the Gating and the afterburner power for supersonic interceptions. Just raw undiluted power! How about that in stead of the sleek and sexy Mirage 3 the Australians used to have in the same period.....

Thanks for your comments! Really appreciate it!
David
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 05, 2017, 06:15:15 am

Thanks everyone! And many, many thanks for the nomination. I'm humbled by the Academy honouring this model with a nomination and like to thank all my family and friends etc etc.....


Hold on there, the 2018 red carpet doesn't get laid for over a year yet.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: NARSES2 on February 05, 2017, 06:41:51 am
That does look the business  :bow:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 05, 2017, 06:48:08 am
 :bow: :bow: :thumbsup: :wub: :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Martin H on February 05, 2017, 07:29:43 am
That nose almost looks like a slimmed down and streamlined SkyKnight nose.  :thumbsup:

I like it  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 05, 2017, 08:22:18 am

That nose almost looks like a slimmed down and streamlined SkyKnight nose.  :thumbsup:


Can you use 'slimmed', 'streamlined' and 'Skynight' in the same sentence?  ;D
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: silverwindblade on February 05, 2017, 11:44:51 am
I love the look of the original Corsair, but this is a great take on it :)
Fantasic job in making it too, it looks seamless!
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Jesse220 on February 05, 2017, 01:27:49 pm
Radical :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: CammNut on February 05, 2017, 02:51:42 pm
Superb!
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Snowtrooper on February 05, 2017, 03:08:25 pm
I've always thought that Corsair looks cute rather than ugly - it is laughing all the time, just like X-32! ;D Nevertheless, this - whatever word describes brutalist architecture applied to mechanical engineering - interpretation is still made of win and awesome.

Considering the power of its engine, four hardpoints seems a little low number, as even the fuselage missile rails were lost. Overwing pylons, Jag or BAC Lightning style? ;D
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on February 05, 2017, 03:33:14 pm
That looks magnificent - a great bit of work! :thumbsup:I like the backstory as well.
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: 63cpe on February 06, 2017, 11:08:47 am
Thanks everybody!

@ Snowtrooper: yeah, I guess overwing tanks will be very suitable freeing up the inner hardpoints for some mudmoving explosives.. So go ahead give it a try! The conversion is easier than expected....that is if you cut the fuselage right...

David
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: TomZ on February 06, 2017, 11:25:45 am
This is great! It took me three looks to see what was different about it. It just looked very nicely "wrong"  ;)

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

TomZ
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: 63cpe on February 06, 2017, 12:00:25 pm
Hahaha, Thanks Tom!

D
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Captain Canada on February 20, 2017, 07:11:10 am
How cool is that ! Defo changes the look. Now I want one !

 :wub: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Tophe on February 20, 2017, 09:07:08 am
Wonderful improvement for the A-7! :wub:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: chrisonord on February 26, 2017, 02:38:56 pm
That certainly made me look several times I tell you, very well done
Chris
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Weaver on February 26, 2017, 04:51:10 pm
That looks so right! Great concept and execution there - well done!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: comrade harps on March 02, 2017, 04:30:22 am
Brilliant work!  :thumbsup: :wub: :drink: :bow:
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: dwomby on March 07, 2017, 11:35:48 am
Brilliant concept and backstory with excellent execution!

David
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: Texbolt89 on March 18, 2017, 11:21:55 am
Pretty darn convincing! 8) Heck, if the Chinese can turn the MiG-21 into the Shenyang J-8II, why not?
Title: Re: The chinless A-7 Corsair: RAAF GAF Corsair II
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 21, 2017, 02:38:26 pm
I like it! :wub: :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: