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Title: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: KiwiZac on December 30, 2016, 10:57:16 am
A B-70A Valkyrie of the Strategic Air Command some time in the 1980s.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/E636BDB5-A666-4F4A-BBF6-54D58AAA1C8E_zpso6bmmmzo.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/E636BDB5-A666-4F4A-BBF6-54D58AAA1C8E_zpso6bmmmzo.jpg.html)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/21B66204-94DA-49C2-BB8F-0A53C84CF4D1_zps9noadfa6.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/21B66204-94DA-49C2-BB8F-0A53C84CF4D1_zps9noadfa6.jpg.html)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/05FF5748-E07D-460A-84EC-B327B90DB0D9_zpsyjzvzrih.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/05FF5748-E07D-460A-84EC-B327B90DB0D9_zpsyjzvzrih.jpg.html)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/438D379A-6698-4542-8F01-E0C1170FFBC4_zpsrssldmc7.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/438D379A-6698-4542-8F01-E0C1170FFBC4_zpsrssldmc7.jpg.html)

Lindberg 1/180 kit with kit decals plus Lindberg B-1 decals.
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: kerick on December 30, 2016, 03:40:46 pm
Nice! A could have been!
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 30, 2016, 04:19:28 pm
Nicely done there Zac.  :thumbsup:

But how long would the paint have lasted at Mach 3?  ;D
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 30, 2016, 06:43:51 pm
Nicely done there Zac.  :thumbsup:

But how long would the paint have lasted at Mach 3?  ;D

Ah, but that could have been part of the Plan:
if the paint was somehow designed to slough off as a whole, you'd have 2 returns on the scope and potentially shoot at the wrong one... ;)

Yeah, not so much, right? :rolleyes:

Nice work, Zac. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: McColm on December 30, 2016, 11:01:26 pm
Good job!
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: NARSES2 on December 31, 2016, 05:09:01 am
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: Captain Canada on December 31, 2016, 05:53:42 am
Oh yes ! That looks great like that ! Such a sexy beast. What colours are those ?

 :wub:
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 31, 2016, 05:55:18 am
That's awesome!! 
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: sandiego89 on December 31, 2016, 06:41:25 am
But how long would the paint have lasted at Mach 3?  ;D

And who would have been looking down on it for it to blend in to the forest?  Unless she went low level  :o 

Still looks good! 
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: Snowtrooper on December 31, 2016, 07:32:53 am
But how long would the paint have lasted at Mach 3?  ;D
And who would have been looking down on it for it to blend in to the forest?  Unless she went low level  :o 

Still looks good!
But wouldn't it have to have gone down eventually to survive against more modern SAM's? Then it wouldn't be able to do Mach 3 (or if it did, weapons would be redundant against all but hardened targets; see Project Pluto).
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 31, 2016, 08:50:25 am
Just the sound of those six J-93s in full burner would have been a weapon in their own right!  :o

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/8034/OmlQd2.jpg)
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 31, 2016, 09:07:41 am
I think in some instances "they" painted things in camo colors for giggles. Maybe?  Look at B-52s.. how many of them are down in the dirt flying around? Why did they put camo all over those?  I've been trying to figure it out myself.   ;D
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 31, 2016, 09:20:06 am
The USAF even camo'd a B-58!  :o

But they didn't send any to Viet Nam anyway.
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: The Rat on December 31, 2016, 10:16:19 am
Nice job on a gorgeous aircraft!
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: sandiego89 on December 31, 2016, 02:42:41 pm
Look at B-52s.. how many of them are down in the dirt flying around? Why did they put camo all over those?  I've been trying to figure it out myself.

B-52's did indeed go to low level penetration tactics as Soviet radar and defenses improved.  The B-52 was originally designed as a high altitude bombers, but by 1960 it was apparent that low level enhancement and tactics would be required (Lloyd, 6)   The last model, the H, was the only version specifically designed from the start for low level work.  Other models were upgraded with low level radar, improved altimeter, better cooling, structural improvements etc.  Wing cracking later required stronger wing skins. 

Gradually the fleet was painted, although some early models remained in natural metal and anti-flash undersides their entire lives.  By the mid 1960's many were painted. There was a variety of paint schemes to better suit the low level mission.  SAC three tone scheme, SEA scheme, SEA scheme with gloss black undersides, SIOP scheme, and later on all over gray.   

Ref: Lloyd, Alwyn. B-52 in detail and scale.   
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 31, 2016, 03:00:23 pm
Wow that's cool! I find that type of thing fascinating...  all the little in and outs about how planes came to be decorated...   :laugh:   Been wondering about this matter in particular for a few months now.  I tried looking up stuff on it and struck out. Thanks!   :mellow: :lol:
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: zenrat on December 31, 2016, 04:48:34 pm
A Valkyrie doing mach 3 at low level would be a weapon in itself - Imagine the shockwave damage.

Good job Zac.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: KiwiZac on December 31, 2016, 11:09:22 pm
Thanks all! Some very kind comments.

The paints are taken from Federal Standard callouts converted on a FS-Humbrol-Tamiya-whatever chart I found online: Tamiya XF-27, XF-65 and XF-49 over X-2, followed by all-over Humbrol Gloss Kote for the decals then Matt Cote to finish.

How I'd love to see and hear one fly. Sadly my wife isn't a fan!
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on January 01, 2017, 05:19:57 am
That looks a mean beast in those colours! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SAC camo B-70A Valkyrie
Post by: Dizzyfugu on January 04, 2017, 08:07:36 am
I was not aware of this 1:180 scale kit - wondered about the "flat" nose, but the manufacturer explains a lot. Makes me wonder if a simple 1:72 bubble canopy could be implanted, for an F-12 alternative...?