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Title: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on December 27, 2016, 04:09:12 am
I just thought I'd put up a box into which I can put some thoughts and ideas I'm happy to have someone elses input on. From time to time, there might even appear the odd glimpse from the work bench or so. But mostly offsprings from a styrene poisonend mind, I'm afraid.

So here goes - the First Thought:

In the late 80:ies/early 90:ies, it was quite clear that the soviet empire was collapsing rapidly, and that they couldn't in fact keep their quite ambitious conventional ground forces at par with western technical evolution. And at this time, not even their large overweight in numbers could fully compensate.
As this became increasingly clear to western leaders, the western military focus rapidly shifted from the european battlefield towards different proxy areas, mainly in the middle east as we have seen during the last two decades, this refocus not only necessitating reequipment of the armed forces in different ways (f.i "fenced tanks" etc) but also meant that camouflage colours changed to better match the new fighting environment.

Now - what if the Soviet Empire some way (oil, gold or f-ing unobtanium findings) didn't break financially as in the real history? That would have allowed them to keep the pressure on the european front and thus the "home" focus on western european armed forces. Would we still have seen green/grey wraparound camouflage on strike aircraft, darker grey maritime aircraft etc or would we still have seen the unbelieveble boring development towards an even greyer military aircraft future? I'd like to think not. I'd really would have loved the Atlas C.1 in dark green/dark sea grey wraparaound in RAF service, not to mention the very very nice three tone grey maritime camouflage we could have seen on Marineflieger Atlantics and Orions.

Or am I too far from reality?

Thoughts and reflections, please?

Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 07:01:01 am
Sounds good to me. It sounds reasonable and cohesive so why not? I, too, don't care at all for contemporary boring grey schemes. I want colors and camo!! 

Also, you could kill two birds with one stone as we're to begin a Soviet Group Build here in a little over a month. 
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: kerick on December 27, 2016, 05:03:22 pm
A lot of the swing towards shades of grey is in response to aircraft no longer required to fly "under the radar" to avoid AAA and SAMs. In Europe the threat was considered to be higher from an enemy ac spotting you as you flew close to the ground so camo meant to blend into the landscape was needed. Now with little threat from modern SAMs in Iraq and the 'stan ac can fly higher to avoid small arms and shoulder fired weapons so air to air camo is more appropriate.

I do agree the greys do get boring after a while. Your suggestion is interesting. F-16s in Euro I? How about a Typhoon in green and grey wrap around?
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 27, 2016, 05:55:09 pm

How about a Typhoon in green and grey wrap around?


And why not? I was thinking just that y'day.

Almost any of the current 'Grey Ghosts' would look great in the older, more colourful schemes.
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: kerick on December 27, 2016, 07:09:42 pm
Except for F-15s.
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 28, 2016, 01:21:16 am
Except for F-15s.

Other opinions are available..........
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 28, 2016, 01:38:46 am
Except for F-15s.

Other opinions are available..........

 ;D ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on December 28, 2016, 03:00:06 am
F-16s in Euro I? How about a Typhoon in green and grey wrap around?

Thanks, all, for weighing in. Really encouraging!!

I suspect that air superiority fighters as well as other assets that necessarily will have to work at higher altitudes most probably still would benefit from some kind of light grey scemes to visually blend in even if they're traceable via radar. As radar in many ways are affected by proper ECM, low visibility to the eye shouldn't be underestimated. Thus, you would probably need to consider in which environment your actual F-16 or Tiffie is to spend most of its activities to decide on scheme. As that gives an opportunity for different versions of the same basic airframe, and thus more whiffing opportunities - I'm unreservedly for. 😋
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on December 28, 2016, 03:28:16 am
....and as promised, a quick glance at the current status on the "Divine Area" (where creation happens):

 (https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174025&g2_serialNumber=2)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: DogfighterZen on December 28, 2016, 05:39:57 am
Thunderchiefed Lightining?  :o That looks very interesting! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: kerick on December 28, 2016, 07:31:26 am
Nice variety of ongoing projects!
That Lightning on the right looks very interesting.
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on December 28, 2016, 07:57:46 am
Thunderchiefed Lightining?  :o That looks very interesting! :thumbsup:
I'm Swedish, remember? You could call that a notched double delta..  😉
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: DogfighterZen on December 28, 2016, 01:19:57 pm
Thunderchiefed Lightining?  :o That looks very interesting! :thumbsup:
I'm Swedish, remember? You could call that a notched double delta..  😉

Ok, i get it... :thumbsup: any close up pics?
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on December 28, 2016, 01:46:11 pm

Ok, i get it... :thumbsup: any close up pics?

In time. There will be a thread in "Current & finished projects" as soon as I can get around to arm her up properly. 😉
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on January 04, 2017, 01:11:27 pm
Absolutely no progress whatsoever at this time, I'm afraid. I'm currently recovering from some major surgery and things aren't exactly going as planned, unfortunately. No panic about long term but really annoying in the present.

Whining done. Over and out.
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 04, 2017, 05:54:37 pm
Get well soon.
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: kerick on January 04, 2017, 07:13:58 pm
Been there, done that, no fun! Get well soon please!

Heres an A-7 in greys with a twist.
http://www.air-and-space.com/19901006%20Edwards/901569%20YA-7F%2071-344%206512TS%20left%20side%20taxiing%20l.jpg
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on January 05, 2017, 06:21:58 am
Heres an A-7 in greys with a twist.
http://www.air-and-space.com/19901006%20Edwards/901569%20YA-7F%2071-344%206512TS%20left%20side%20taxiing%20l.jpg

Thanx.

The A-7F. I've actually made one out of an old Airfix A-7E, but never got as far as painting/decalling. It's still around, though, so one day I'd guess it'll show up again, probably in "Europe One". 😁
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: NARSES2 on January 05, 2017, 06:50:01 am
Yup, hope the recovery speed picks up
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: zenrat on January 06, 2017, 02:39:02 am
...Whining done. Over and out.

OK.  We'll allow a small amount of whining but do hurry up and recover.  I want see more pictures.
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 06, 2017, 09:18:12 am
OK.  We'll allow a small amount of whining but do hurry up and recover.  I want see more pictures.
 :smiley:

Totally agree with the gentleman's words... ;D Get well soon! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on February 13, 2017, 08:12:52 am
OK, while not much modelling has been done lately, I've at least gotten around to shoot some old stuff not previously shown, so I thought I'll just throw them up here in anticipation of creating a background for them. And if nothing else, to bask a bit in the attention. 😉

So - first out - the previously unveiled Washington R.2A. The old Airfix offering, originally built as "Joltin Josie" by my old man in the late 70:ies but rescued by me when he decided to minimise storage spaces. Ever since (some odd 10 years) it's been sitting on my top shelf dusting about until I finally, last November, got inspired and added some random blobs and antennas, and in an attack of severe hybris, also an EO/IR/Laser targetting ball turret. To get that into the backstory will crave some creativity, but hey - it's whiffworld! Decided to try out my new hemp enamel and I kind of like the turnout. Should have thought twice about the lightning bolts on the fin, though (they should have been lower set) but now they're under three layers of Johnsons and some varnish, so..

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174048)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on February 13, 2017, 08:15:04 am
(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174050)

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174049)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on February 13, 2017, 09:06:11 am
Next up - a subject I suspect most of us has looked at. A Freighter C.2 in MEAF colours. Basically straight out of the box, camo estimated from the Aden based Beverleys, however slightly modernised along Andover lines. General backstory idea is UK staying put in Aden, creating an arabian Gibraltar but also continuing supporting various local entities, such as Omani interests etc. I would be happy to receive further input here if someone feels they would like to contribute. Time frame would be mid 70:ies, or so, but think it as a not very prioritised theatre with old, second line aircraft and a backlog of modernisation long as a starvation year.

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174046)

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174045)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 13, 2017, 09:30:46 am
Cool stuff! 
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: zenrat on February 14, 2017, 02:33:23 am
Cool indeed but I particularly like the RAF Tu-4  :mellow: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: NARSES2 on February 14, 2017, 03:08:00 am
Very nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on September 17, 2020, 07:04:54 am
Hi all

Apparently, it's been a while since I updated this page. As I write, there's a big red square on top of it, encouraging me to start a brand new topic rather than posting in an ancient thread. Well - I'm getting ancient too, so I think I'll just carry on..

In the mean time, my modelling has become somewhat erratic. Partly due to having to work entirely from my hobby desk since March, partly from also having my wife working from her hobby desk just opposite mine and last but not least from having to home school the kids during a large portion of the spring. But mainly due to lack of focus. And it's not that bad, actually. I've given up on staying on a subject and these days, I build whatever I feel for in the moment. The result is a rather messy build shelf, littered with more or less complete projects, and most annoyingly a certain difficulty to finish off when something is almost there. On the other hand, when I get a little time to create, I do it with more joy and less angst. In all, I think its a good trade - for as long as the space allows, that is.

My current feel, however, doesn't improve things from a shelf space perspective. I have finally gotten round to make some progress on the tanker that'll benefit from the old Matchbox Victor Mk 20 pods kindly provided by Kit, and that is a rather substantial aircraft, even in my preferred 72nd scale. Things got even worse when I out of the blue managed to pick up an old AMT RC-135V. My second, as a matter of fact, and suddenly I can build an Airseeker as well as a Rivet Joint. My unability to choose version has been the reason for not starting my old one for years. Now, I can start both. Two RC-135:s, that is. Good fun, but the shelf is moaning everytime I glance at it..
Also I now need new CFM56 engines. Eight of them. Which have to be sourced from the US (Contrail, thanks lads!). That is if I can't hide away money enough to invest in two more Airfix/Heller AWACS kits, for NATO (E-3A) and USAF (E-3G) use, respectively - which would then provide nice engines for free. Well - free and free...  :rolleyes:

Speaking of accidentally increasing stash. In May, I came across another (yes, I know) old Matchbox Canberra PR9. I bought and built my first one about 40 years ago, and I've loved its sleek uncomplicated lines ever since. Even to the point that I for no other reason than aesthetics prefer it over the otherwise much improved Airfix issue. Anyhow - stumbling on this latest one triggered a Canberra bonanza, actually making me completing three unstarted 'Berras, starting a reconstruction of my original one (third time over) and also rebuilding an old Airfix B(I)6 while I was at it. Good fun, and while uncomplicated builds, I really enjoy the result.

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174167&g2_serialNumber=1)

Another project I think went well was the radar equipped Hunter built and painted during the summer. This project came about when I surfed across a drawing of a P.1100 and was quite taken by its good looks. Having completed it, I got inspired enough to take the opportunity to scavenge the scrap heap for another old Hunter, rebuilding it as a tactical recce bird.

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174170&g2_serialNumber=1)

Now, back to real work and then try to remember to actually write up the backstories. After all, that's actually almost as fun as the build itself.. ;)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Knightflyer on September 17, 2020, 09:42:33 am
I do like those two Hunters  ;D

And scrolling upwards (to revisit your ancient history  ;D) the Washington R.2A is superb!!
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 17, 2020, 03:19:06 pm
That recce nose works really well on the Hunter!  :wub: Beauty!
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 17, 2020, 03:41:14 pm

That recce nose works really well on the Hunter!  :wub: Beauty!


Looks better than the RW recce noses on the FR10 too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: buzzbomb on September 17, 2020, 05:03:04 pm
Oh yes.. great re-entry post :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on September 18, 2020, 01:53:32 am
Anyhow - stumbling on this latest one triggered a Canberra bonanza, actually making me completing three unstarted 'Berras, starting a reconstruction of my original one (third time over) and also rebuilding an old Airfix B(I)6 while I was at it. Good fun, and while uncomplicated builds, I really enjoy the result.

Just throwing in a current status pic on the HA Canberra project. The front part is my original, 40 year old model and the rear comes from France. You know..

(https://www.alfapower.nu/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=174164&g2_serialNumber=2)

Anyway, apart from having joined up the fuselage, the rest is at mock-up-stage. But we're getting there. Next time I find the lust and inspiration for recce birds. ;)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2020, 03:24:04 am
Now those are some SERIOUS wings!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on September 18, 2020, 03:31:12 am
Now those are some SERIOUS wings!  :thumbsup:

I'm taking that as an experts opinion.. ;)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: NARSES2 on September 18, 2020, 06:19:06 am
Good to see you back  :thumbsup: and those Hunters are terrific
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: McColm on September 20, 2020, 08:48:47 am
Interesting stuff  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on October 03, 2020, 07:19:46 am
As some of you know, I've been doing some tanker stuff lately. This is by all means nothing recently started. Rather I have been fiddling with a project for quite a while on to which was planned the mk 20B pods Kit kindly let me have from a Matchbox Victor. However, the project ran aground earlier this summer as it just didn't seem to be right. And while you may argue that everything goes in Whif-world, I find that for me, it isn't so. There has to be some kind of possible realism somewhere, even if sometimes far fetched. So there I was, with a half built and rather substantial model on the desk, not really knowing what to do with it. Well - this isn't the first time, so I put it aside and in due course went on a Canberra bonanza, as previously described.

As time has passed, the ex-tanker model has been taken out every now and then, and those pods have been keeping bugging me, but I haven't quite been able to find a satisfactory way forward. Temporarily leaving my whif RAF aside for a bit, tankers for other forces have instead been sourced and in some case started, keeping me on the fuel truck track. All well so far.
 
However, some days ago, to my surprise and indignation (over my own lack of reconnaissance) I realised that MACH2 actually has released the 1/72 VC10. Now, that was a mixed blessing. On the flip side I have been wanting one for years, even to the point considering the Anigrand offer. Getting one would also solve a good part of the sudden lack-of-tanker-capacity problem I have created in my private little corner of whif-world.
On the downside a MACH2 kit usually
a) costs a fortune
b) is unbelievably crude
c) has to be sourced in the UK, meaning rather extortionate freight costs.

Generally, I have a reluctance towards buying bad and expensive kits, but when a particularly tasty object turns up like this and also is the only game in town, I sometimes give in after some thinking. Consequently, I have been pondering the possible VC10 procurement and while contemplating the entire situation last night, another whif idea suddenly dawned on me. A really good one, you know. One that hits you like a revelation or a shovel on your forehead.  Best of all is that I already have the base kit and that Kits refuelling pods will match beautifully. Furthermore, I suddenly realised that there is another variant of the aircraft the ex-tanker project was built on that actually very well could go RAF tanker - and that having had that thought, I immediately have created not only a need for a second set of ex-Victor pods, but also a need for another rather big and potentially expensive model. Riiiiiight.. :banghead:

Ah well.. At least I have new inspiration again. I'd better run with that while saving up for the VC10 and its possible newly dreamt up companion. And the ex-tanker now being rethought into something somewhat more aggressive also is looking to have slipped out of its mental gridlock. I have had worse modelling days, after all..  ;)
 
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: NARSES2 on October 04, 2020, 05:32:13 am
Tease  ;) ;D

Good to see the juices are flowing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: McColm on October 25, 2020, 12:53:12 pm
There's a guide to how to build the Mach2 VC10 on YouTube with how to correct the nose and cockpit area. I have the Airways vacform fuselage halves in the stash.
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on November 11, 2020, 04:59:30 am
There's a guide to how to build the Mach2 VC10 on YouTube with how to correct the nose and cockpit area. I have the Airways vacform fuselage halves in the stash.

Seen it and decided not to. I am waaaay too lazy, and also old enough not to be able to spot the difference in a few years anyway..  ;)
Title: Re: Pellsons Perceivings
Post by: Pellson on November 11, 2020, 05:04:12 am
As some of you know, I've been doing some tanker stuff lately. This is by all means nothing recently started. Rather I have been fiddling with a project for quite a while on to which was planned the mk 20B pods Kit kindly let me have from a Matchbox Victor. However, the project ran aground earlier this summer as it just didn't seem to be right. And while you may argue that everything goes in Whif-world, I find that for me, it isn't so. There has to be some kind of possible realism somewhere, even if sometimes far fetched. So there I was, with a half built and rather substantial model on the desk, not really knowing what to do with it. Well - this isn't the first time, so I put it aside and in due course went on a Canberra bonanza, as previously described.

As time has passed, the ex-tanker model has been taken out every now and then, and those pods have been keeping bugging me, but I haven't quite been able to find a satisfactory way forward. Temporarily leaving my whif RAF aside for a bit, tankers for other forces have instead been sourced and in some case started, keeping me on the fuel truck track. All well so far.
 
However, some days ago, to my surprise and indignation (over my own lack of reconnaissance) I realised that MACH2 actually has released the 1/72 VC10. Now, that was a mixed blessing. On the flip side I have been wanting one for years, even to the point considering the Anigrand offer. Getting one would also solve a good part of the sudden lack-of-tanker-capacity problem I have created in my private little corner of whif-world.
On the downside a MACH2 kit usually
a) costs a fortune
b) is unbelievably crude
c) has to be sourced in the UK, meaning rather extortionate freight costs.

Generally, I have a reluctance towards buying bad and expensive kits, but when a particularly tasty object turns up like this and also is the only game in town, I sometimes give in after some thinking. Consequently, I have been pondering the possible VC10 procurement and while contemplating the entire situation last night, another whif idea suddenly dawned on me. A really good one, you know. One that hits you like a revelation or a shovel on your forehead.  Best of all is that I already have the base kit and that Kits refuelling pods will match beautifully. Furthermore, I suddenly realised that there is another variant of the aircraft the ex-tanker project was built on that actually very well could go RAF tanker - and that having had that thought, I immediately have created not only a need for a second set of ex-Victor pods, but also a need for another rather big and potentially expensive model. Riiiiiight.. :banghead:

Ah well.. At least I have new inspiration again. I'd better run with that while saving up for the VC10 and its possible newly dreamt up companion. And the ex-tanker now being rethought into something somewhat more aggressive also is looking to have slipped out of its mental gridlock. I have had worse modelling days, after all..  ;)

Oh, and btw - I did order that VC10. I am but mortal sinner..