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Title: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: Madoc on December 21, 2016, 03:23:59 pm
Wow!
 
This just in from Squadron - and it's also the first kit they're producing themselves.
 
It's a Haunebu II German Flying Saucer.  It's a pretty massive looking thing even in its 1/72nd scale.  It also looks exceptionally well detailed.  For fans of the off beat, of Luft '46 subjects, science fiction, and those who just want to have some outlandish fun - this should be just the ticket.
 
They're taking pre-orders now and are looking at an end of January, 2017, availability.
 
http://www.squadron.com/Squadron-Models-1-72-Haunebu-II-German-Flying-Sa-p/sqm0001.htm

Hyperscale has a piece on it:

http://www.hyperscale.com/squadronpressrelease_3.htm
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: The Wooksta! on December 21, 2016, 03:27:54 pm
It also looks rather expensive - I can have an Airfix Victor for less and still have change for a decent bottle of rum! 

Tempting as it is, I'll give it a miss.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: crudebuteffective on December 21, 2016, 03:56:18 pm
I'll give it a miss and go straight to the rum
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: The Wooksta! on December 21, 2016, 04:33:19 pm
Make sure it's a good one.  I suggest this:

(http://www.distillersdirect.com/images/products/galleries/113/gallery_main/appletons-rum-12-year-old.jpeg?id=1394)
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: JasonW on December 21, 2016, 05:45:22 pm
I'll give it a miss and go straight to the rum
I am with this sentiment also, love a good rum but I'll go with a good single malt......



Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Martin H on December 22, 2016, 05:08:02 am
It also looks rather expensive - I can have an Airfix Victor for less and still have change for a decent bottle of rum! 

Tempting as it is, I'll give it a miss.
Hannants are taking pre orders priced at 34.20

Hannants item page (https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SQM0001)
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: The Wooksta! on December 22, 2016, 03:57:08 pm
35?  I can live with that.  I'll ask Uncle Frank to get one in.

All the nasty weapons are coming off though. 
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: king of men on December 23, 2016, 01:47:19 am
This is a pretty large model, if the unboxing video from Squadron is anything to go by. Like 18" across the lower surface plate, or something close. It's not cheap, but not totally unreasonable either.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Madoc on December 23, 2016, 09:02:30 am
Wooksta,

"Nasty weapons?"  Like what?  Those two upper canons?  The ventral turrets?  Do tell!

I've a predilection for finishing Luft 46 subjects in a captured state.  That is, with their Nazi markings quite obviously painted over and new Allied markings hastily applied in their place.  This, as if they'd been afreshly acquired and were on their way out of Germany (or their secret Antarctic base) for the technical evaluation boffins to boff.

The cost and size of this one however, makes it more likely that she'll be done in a stock operational livery.

I think it'll be just the thing to park next to my C-57D in full-up SAC colors.  Now, if only there was a Lost In Space (TV) Jupiter 2 in 72nd to park next to them!
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: king of men on December 23, 2016, 09:22:20 pm
Y'know I'm almost certain that I've seen a 1:72 chariot on ebay. Admittedly not the Jupiter 2 itself but probably as close as you're going to get.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: The Wooksta! on December 24, 2016, 03:17:03 pm
The weapons are coming off as they just don't look right on the design.  The lower ones definitely have to go as these are supposedly the field propulsion units, not gun turrets.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: kitnut617 on December 25, 2016, 07:14:06 am
The weapons are coming off as they just don't look right on the design.  The lower ones definitely have to go as these are supposedly the field propulsion units, not gun turrets.

Funny though, just about every picture on google shows them as turrets. Where did you get your information from Lee?
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Supertom on December 25, 2016, 08:54:50 am
Just as I'm finishing watching Season 2 of The Man In The High Castle too! Speaking of Luft 46 has anyone seen Iron Sky?
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on December 25, 2016, 11:33:43 am
Sadly, I can't afford this kit right now. :(  And by the time I actually do, I'm sure every place selling them will be sold out.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: The Wooksta! on December 26, 2016, 06:21:18 am
The weapons are coming off as they just don't look right on the design.  The lower ones definitely have to go as these are supposedly the field propulsion units, not gun turrets.

Funny though, just about every picture on google shows them as turrets. Where did you get your information from Lee?

Nowhere specific - I just read a lot of UFO books and have watched a few Mark Mckandlish videos on youtube. 

The evidence for Nazi saucers is highly dubious at best and anything you read on the subject should be taken with an ocean of salt.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Martin H on December 26, 2016, 11:10:11 am
The evidence for Nazi saucers is highly dubious at best and anything you read on the subject should be taken with an ocean of salt.

I concur. Its a bit worrying just how many supposedly educated people believe that they were real and are still hidden at (Insert your fav secret base here).  The Germans were ahead of the allies in most aviation feilds, but not that far ahead.

The Wave models Haunebu 1 I built last year certainly raises a good few smiles and questions when its on the SIG stand at most shows, usually from the kids.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Madoc on December 26, 2016, 08:21:41 pm
I think even saying "dubious at best" is being far, far too complimentary.

I put this sorta stuff in the same league as swords 'n sorcery fantasy fiction.  "Dieselpunk" at best.  Sort of the "super science" pulp fiction from the 30s - with a darker side.  The folks who actually believe it all make me wonder just how much lead had leaked into the water supplies they drank from as children...
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on December 26, 2016, 09:05:41 pm
The weapons are coming off as they just don't look right on the design.  The lower ones definitely have to go as these are supposedly the field propulsion units, not gun turrets.

Funny though, just about every picture on google shows them as turrets. Where did you get your information from Lee?

Nowhere specific - I just read a lot of UFO books and have watched a few Mark Mckandlish videos on youtube. 

The evidence for Nazi saucers is highly dubious at best and anything you read on the subject should be taken with an ocean of salt.

If we're going to settle this once and for all, then let's get Jaime and Adam from the Mythbusters to either Confirm, Bust, or Plausible this issue.  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 09, 2017, 06:54:36 pm
Got the Haunebu II model kit from my best friend today. It was a slightly belated birthday gift.  ;D  After opening it up and viewing the contents, here's my initial preliminary report.

This is a really nice World War II "what if" model subject. The Squadron 1/72 scale German Haunebu II Flying Saucer model kit normally retails for around $75-80. It comes in a very nice box that has a slipcase covering it. On the outside of the box are pictures of the finished model as well as a brief history of "supposed" German saucer development. The saucer is quite big at about 15 inches in diameter. There are 14 parts sprues labled A through J.
The 12 page instruction booklet is nice as it's in color as well as black & white. One major downside is that the color callouts are only for AV Vallejo colors. If a person wants to use Testor, Tamiya, or something else, then you'll have to figure that on your own. The decal sheet is also pretty simple. If a person wanted to add more markings to the saucer than what is available on the sheet, then you'll have to use any extra stuff from your spare parts box.
The instrument consoles on Sprue F look nice, but I feel that with extra work, a modeler could detail them up further with photoetch instrumentation, extra decals, and dry brushing. The picture of the control cabin in Step 8 looks nice, but again, I feel this whole cabin could be further detailed with more machinery, piping, instrument consoles, etc. other than just having 3 instrument consoles and 9 chairs which looks pretty boring. And speaking of chairs.........9 chairs go in the control cabin, but there are 10 chairs total on the letter I sprues. Maybe the 10th is a spare? Unfortuneately, there are no crew figures included in the kit to pose in the chairs or to put outside the saucer if building a diorama. All the gun barrels are molded in plastic. But a skilled modeler could replace these with metal tubing and rod if desired which would probably look a lot better. More reviews can be found at the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaF7VIgM7SY
http://web.ipmsusa3.org/content/haunebu-ii

Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 09, 2017, 06:55:24 pm
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Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 09, 2017, 06:56:38 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2919/33813229761_48da7aea7f_c.jpg)

2x  of Sprue J parts.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3804/33813229811_c8c09770a3_c.jpg)

2x  of Sprue I parts.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2916/33558242730_8b6e250f29_c.jpg)

Sprue E part (Left and Upper Right)
Sprue D part (Lower Right)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3946/33558242780_5545970a90_c.jpg)

Sprue C parts.
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Sprue F parts.
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Close-up of Sprue F control panel parts.
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One side of Sprue A parts.
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Other side (Bottom of saucer) of Sprue A parts.
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Sprue B parts.
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One side of Sprue G parts.
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Other side of Sprue G parts.
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Sprue H clear parts.
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Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: NARSES2 on April 10, 2017, 06:43:59 am
There's a fair few of those appearing at shows over here in the UK. It's a big kit
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 10, 2017, 07:36:23 am
Big hit, eh? Sounds interesting. ;)  Probably won't be as big a hit as what I've got planned.  :wacko:  My evil genius intellect has come up with the ultimate humorous diorama for the Haunebu II.  :mellow:
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: NARSES2 on April 10, 2017, 07:42:19 am
Look forward to that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 10, 2017, 08:47:59 am
The darn things are breeding I tell you!  :o
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 10, 2017, 09:24:10 am
The darn things are breeding I tell you!  :o

And after they take over the modeling community, they'll take over the world!  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:

Look forward to that  :thumbsup:

I have a brilliant idea of creating a large diorama. First, create a "house floor" base with linoleum or wood. Buy a realistic looking boy baby doll toy and have it set up like he is playing with a toy spinning top on the floor. Add my Haunebu kit in front of the baby and put some sort of wording on the base or elsewhere that says: "Werner, you dummkopf! You've transported us to an oversized children's toy area! Get us out of here, NOW! Schnell! MACH SCHNELL!"  ;D
Think about it. Those toy spinning tops are round and do sort of appear in the shape of a UFO. Kid plays with regular top toy, then spots the newly appeared German UFO and thinks that's a new toy top and wants to play with it. What could be more funnier?  ;D
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 10, 2017, 12:37:46 pm
Can anybody here translate German? I found the following images on the Net, but do not know what the words mean.

(http://www.zangeki.com/pic/figure/wave/HH-42/hh42_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: TomZ on April 10, 2017, 12:41:14 pm
Just like a disk, but OMG!

Based on the emblem carried by the Me-163 of JG400: "Just like a flea".

TomZ
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Martin H on April 10, 2017, 12:59:23 pm
There's a fair few of those appearing at shows over here in the UK. It's a big kit

Well I had these two on the SIG stand at the Cosford show.......................
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/martinhiggs/2017%20Builds/DSCF3758_zps1oan7vmw.jpg)
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: Liebemaister on April 10, 2017, 04:50:35 pm
Hi there,
I build it too see my post in this forum title German on the moon
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: seadude on April 10, 2017, 05:40:53 pm
Hi there,
I build it too see my post in this forum title German on the moon

Nice work.  :thumbsup:
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,43577.msg763746.html#msg763746


The only other thing for review about this kit that bugs me is all the rivets. You just know some darn JMN at a show will start teasing about all the rivets and make any attempt to count them and/or say there are too many or not enough.  :banghead:  ;D
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - January 2017
Post by: NARSES2 on April 11, 2017, 07:22:54 am

I have a brilliant idea of creating a large diorama. First, create a "house floor" base with linoleum or wood. Buy a realistic looking boy baby doll toy and have it set up like he is playing with a toy spinning top on the floor. Add my Haunebu kit in front of the baby and put some sort of wording on the base or elsewhere that says: "Werner, you dummkopf! You've transported us to an oversized children's toy area! Get us out of here, NOW! Schnell! MACH SCHNELL!"  ;D
Think about it. Those toy spinning tops are round and do sort of appear in the shape of a UFO. Kid plays with regular top toy, then spots the newly appeared German UFO and thinks that's a new toy top and wants to play with it. What could be more funnier?  ;D

There's an advert on UK T.V. where an alien space fleet invades Earth and when the lead ship lands and the Alien's commander steps down his ship is driven over by a UFO trackers van. The alien ships are tiny. Very funny advert  ;D

There wre a few Far Side cartoons based on a similar theme with either the aliens or the humans being tiny. My favourite one was where the Earth was an alien kid's vivarium  ;)
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: Madoc on October 11, 2017, 10:10:55 am
Squadron has just released a "What If?" of this "What If?" - a civilian passenger carrying Haunebu!

From the Squadron website:


Just imagine one of these in Pan Am or BOAC livery!
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: elmayerle on October 11, 2017, 10:57:58 am
Perhaps JAL markings?
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: seadude on October 11, 2017, 11:25:22 am
Squadron has just released a "What If?" of this "What If?" - a civilian passenger carrying Haunebu!

From the Squadron website:

  • Premium version consists of a resin upgrade set to convert the military version into a civilian platform that includes: very detailed top deck/observation bunker. Rear port, choice of top dome (resin or vacu-form acetate), 12 upgraded wheels, radome disc for main upper body, bottom cover discs (4) to replace kit ball turrets with choice of installing laser units or clear bulbs.
  • Haunebu kit also features beautiful decal markings to represent a civilian space-expeditionary livery. Comes with exquisite Falcon clear vacu-canopies.
  • Also includes: State of the art Instruction Manual with full color profile and painting guide, brief history of the Hannebu II also incorporated into the booklet. Packaged in a deluxe box with protective sleeve including original artwork suitable for framing.

Just imagine one of these in Pan Am or BOAC livery!

I already made a thread about it here.........if you would have looked.  :angry:
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,44364.0.html
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: Madoc on October 11, 2017, 04:00:15 pm
seadude,

I already made a thread about it here.........if you would have looked.

Nope, didn't see it.  You also could've updated the existing thread about the Haunebu - if you'd looked first.   :mellow:

In any event, I hope the Squadron guys make their money on this thing as that'll encourage 'em to keep making more such interesting kits.
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: Martin H on October 12, 2017, 06:23:48 pm
oh Gould! do I realy need a 3rd one of these?

No. Not when Hannants want 99 for one!
Title: Re: Squadron Models - 1/72 Haunebu II - Premium Edition Now Available!
Post by: Madoc on October 16, 2017, 09:46:42 pm
Martin,

Of course you do!  How else could you properly fill out that Alt-Hist Templehoff diorama you know you've always wanted to build...