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Title: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2016, 03:22:37 pm
Welcome to my C.R.A.P.!   


I don't think I'm going anywhere so rather than making a bunch of individual threads for each thing I build, I'll be putting the majority of it here in the interest of keeping the board less cluttered and so more variety can be on the front page(s).

On with the show...   

For the Old Kit GB I'm building a Mig 27 but I need to practice on something before I do that one so... I grabbed the gnarliest kit I could get my hands on. I already built one of these, although slightly different, for my "American Military Yak 9."  This one is a Yak 7 with the extra glass. It won't be a whif but I need to practice on something that will have me using every skill. (Well, aside from air brushing..homie don't play that yet...  )

(http://i.imgur.com/yXJCexL.jpg)
The Kit. Special thanks to Zenrat for identifying some of the pertinent info:  "..it's an RM models using KP molds." Made in Russia.

Anyway, after no less than 2 hours of triming, filing, and sanding down flash I managed to glue the wings together, fuselage halves together, then glue both of those pieces together to get the initial form. This plastic is so brittle.. I've had both halves of the fuselage have parts of the sidewall sheer off so I had to glue those back on....   The fitment is ridiculous:

(http://i.imgur.com/i00UcUl.jpg)

...But what ya gonna do?! I picked this one on purpose because of the dozens of problems......    The little notch in the wing? I have no idea why that's there but I just "cleaned it up" a little and left it. I'm not going to spend TOO much time on this. This evening I'll be fiddling with some the small parts... the gear, control surfaces and stabs and all that good stuff.

That's all for now I guess... thanks for stopping by.    <_<
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 20, 2016, 05:11:30 pm
C.R.A.P. :laugh: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: kerick on September 20, 2016, 06:10:45 pm
That canopy is long enough for a two seater.......... :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2016, 06:15:40 pm
C.R.A.P. :laugh: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hahahah!! I figured folks would get a kick out of that.   If nothing else, I'm sort of goofy....   ;D This type of lame humour is typical for me.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2016, 06:22:19 pm
That canopy is long enough for a two seater.......... :wacko:

Yeah, ain't that cool?? That's one thing that appealed to me on this kit. Oddly enough, considering the lack of quality elsewhere, it came with two separate canopies... this "long body" and a normal one. So that was a pleasant find. I'm of course using the extended one and having the other for the parts stash is awesome.

I didn't spend much time researching, but I did do SOME and found this tidbit on Wiki:

"Ya-27
two-seat prototype converted from a pre-serial I-26

Yak-7UTI
initial two-seat communication/trainer version, 186 built in 1941

Yak-7V
(vyvoznoy) two-seat trainer; 510 built in 1942/43 + 87 converted from Yak-7B

Yak-7K courier
VIP transport version. converted from Yak-7B, 1944.
"

I bolded that last one as it, to me, appeals the most. The kit box doesn't say which one it is..   (there's some Russian on the back that either says which one or is a unit designator, I don't know which as I don't speak Russian)    It has to be one of those, though. I also like the "communications" one.

(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/267/pics/1_19_b1.jpg)
A picture on Wings Pallete.

Thanks for the interest, y'all!   
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: kerick on September 20, 2016, 06:29:24 pm
That kit should be yuck instead of Yak......
You'll either improve your skills or give up model building!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2016, 06:59:15 pm
That kit should be yuck instead of Yak......
You'll either improve your skills or give up model building!

LMAO   

I'm tellin' ya.....    :o :-X ;D

There's enough flash to scratch build a battleship....
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 21, 2016, 10:29:31 am
Ha!! I just found this out on the internet proper and it cracked me up:

(http://i.imgur.com/9y5REC1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 21, 2016, 01:07:05 pm
The work continues!

(http://i.imgur.com/LVjDnPK.jpg)

Of note in this picture is my Bic Cover-It correction fluid. I call it "Poor Man's Mr. Surfacer" and use it for the same type of thing Mr Surfacer would be used on. 

(http://www.missing-lynx.com/images/mrsurfacerreviewbg_1.JPG)

For the un initiated, Mr. Surfacer is pretty much a really thin filler used to get into and fill tight spaces or whatever.. I'm sure their website could explain it better than I but you get the idea. I'd say it's a close to paint as a filler could be and still be filler. 

Back to the correction fluid. I find it to pretty handy but haven't used a whole lot of it yet. So far seems to be so good, though. I've never used Mr. Surfacer products but heard they were fantastic.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 21, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
C.R.A.P. :laugh: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 21, 2016, 05:02:35 pm
Good tip with the correction fluid, I'll try that out. :mellow: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 21, 2016, 05:16:20 pm
Happy to oblige both of yas!    ;D

One note on the fluid, you'll need some pretty stout sand paper or files to start in on when you get to sanding it down. Hardens up pretty damn solid!  Not only that, dries really fast. But, it does seep into tighter areas decently.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 21, 2016, 05:23:11 pm
Moving forward...

Since this thing is going to have an "over all" paint scheme I'm going ahead with gluing on the horizontal stabs, elevators, and ailerons. One NICE thing I can say about this kit is that they can be glued in whichever fashion you choose. I like the "drooping gown" look, and, if I remember right, at least some planes look like this anyway when on the ground, powered down, and the pressure off of the hydraulics.

I've been moving pretty fast on this! I've been working on it today quite a bit but in comparison with the other one I built this is going much faster.  Hell, I'm near ready to start laying out camo but I think I'll file, trim, sand, and paint the landing gear and doors and all that tiny mess first. Get the hard stuff out of the way first, ya know? Also, I'm going to have to scratch build some of the gear because part went somewhere. Half of it is on the sprue and the other half. .....  ?????     

Anyway:
(http://i.imgur.com/veSpr0Y.jpg)

I figured it would be fun to, on occassion, feature a kit from my stash for a background as a bit of "bonus" and something else to look at and maybe illicit discussion.

Thanks for lookin! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 21, 2016, 07:24:05 pm
elevators, and ailerons. One NICE thing I can say about this kit is that they can be glued in whichever fashion you choose. I like the "drooping gown" look, and, if I remember right, at least some planes look like this anyway when on the ground, powered down, and the pressure off of the hydraulics.

Cool. Yak's don't have hydraulic powered controls BTW, it's simply the weight of the elevators that make them sit in a down position when at rest if it has no locks on the controls or surfaces themselves. :thumbsup:

One note on the fluid, you'll need some pretty stout sand paper or files to start in on when you get to sanding it down. Hardens up pretty damn solid!  Not only that, dries really fast. But, it does seep into tighter areas decently.   :thumbsup:

No problems there, I use auto body filler for putty and depending on the amount of hardener used it can be like sanding granite so I have some beefy papers and files and if need be rasps to work with. ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 21, 2016, 08:11:45 pm
Heavy artillery!!!  :mellow:

Thanks for the bit on the Yak. I guess I should have known that. All direct controls. Not the only thing low-tech on the Yak... I was reading earlier today that the wings were wooden and the fuselage was cloth wrapped over substructure.  That explains the lines on the rear section! I always wondered about that.  ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 21, 2016, 11:10:20 pm
Heavy artillery!!!  :mellow:

No not really, that'd be the dremel, drill and mouse sander. :mellow: ;D

Doubt I'll need to use those on correctional fluid.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 22, 2016, 09:50:13 am
Heavy artillery!!!  :mellow:

No not really, that'd be the dremel, drill and mouse sander. :mellow: ;D

Doubt I'll need to use those on correctional fluid.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Certainly not!!  In the meantime: fire up that Quickrete scratch build.......

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/T2eC16hHJHwE9n8ikL5ZBQpgnCT)7!~~/s-l300.jpg)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2016, 12:40:11 pm
Couldn't leave the models alone for long! I cracked the fuselage on my Bonanza   (see: current projects>aircraft)  and gave up last night but back it aready.

The Yak is ready for primer! Yay! I found out what the notch was in the wing....well... I found a picture anyway...looks like a landing light so I whipped out some clear sprue, chopped some of it up, crammed it in there, then slathered it with glue. I just now sanded it down to conform with the wing. That was all I was lacking before hitting it with the primer. I hope and pray not too many flaws come out. I don't planning on fixing much as this is Glorious Russian Model being built as an exercise. Not that I don't care about it or want to do well.. just won't be breaking my back to refine it.

I fixed the TURRIBLE canopy fitment issues to within the standards I'm looking for and am happy enough with it now...so... she's off to "our" (everyone of us who paint outside lol ) paint booth to lace Glorious Model with primer.  Then... hell I might let it dry for half an hour or so and start painting on it.  Can't wait.  Haven't done camo in about 25 years. 

"Bonus" kit this time as backdrop is the good ol' F1.

(http://i.imgur.com/L3NJtyl.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2016, 01:02:20 pm
How's that for turn around?!

I can live with this!

(http://i.imgur.com/fHjbvhl.jpg)


OOPS! I Forgot: This particular version of the Yak 7 has fixed gear, I'll have to remember the the fact that I didn't put the gear doors into the wings and close it all up:

(http://i.imgur.com/gOVvD7Q.jpg)


Goofy lil kits but they're growing on me. I wish I could get my hands on like 20 of them for about a dollar a piece.  :D   or 10 for $2 a piece.  Great for practicing on. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2016, 02:08:49 pm
OK, plugged up the holes in the wings so I can do fixed gear on this.

(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv350/stevanjovicin/20130119_202645.jpg)

LMAO! Maybe I shouldn't have fixed the canopy alignment after all?! Maybe the kit was more accurate than I gave credit for.   :-X ;D ;D


Anyway, here's my handy work. At this point I'm going to let all this dry up probably a good solid two days as the glue is testors blue.

(http://i.imgur.com/uShk5ja.jpg?1)

Bonus kit this time is the first model I bought when I got back into modelling again earlier this year. Got this for $0.99 and free shipping on Evilbay. (SCORE!!)   Nothing missing and the decals are in REALLY nice condition.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 23, 2016, 07:30:52 pm
 :banghead: I should have said earlier when I mentioned the elevators sitting down at rest but I didn't notice till now, the ailerons (wing flaps) should be one up and one down (they are for roll control). Now this Yak has flapperons.  ;D

(BTW flapperons are a real thing, they are ailerons that droop (normally in conjunction with landing flaps) so this Yak has been modified for short field performance. ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 23, 2016, 08:00:42 pm
Works for me!    ;D  Ya know, I never really thought that far into it... but... yeah..  huh...one up, one down. Makes sense.  Should have hit me with all the flight sims i play.


This thing would drive a JMN nuts.


I'm not even putting a cockpit in it. Not a scrap. Nothing.  :mellow:


I like to live life on the ~EDGE~.   LOL

Maybe that's what will make it whif... it's powered and controled purely by ghosts..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 24, 2016, 07:15:03 am
 :thumbsup:

What is the fit like on the NOVO Sea Venom?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 24, 2016, 09:07:00 am
:thumbsup:

What is the fit like on the NOVO Sea Venom?

I don't know, she's still on the sprues.

(http://i.imgur.com/XYibbVA.jpg)

A copious amount of flash is present..  The detail looks pretty nice, though!!  Weird, there are raised and also recessed panel lines.... sometimes even on the same pieces.  LOL... a recessed panel line then 1cm away a raised one.

I noticed the decals come in two options! Great!! I plan on building the Australian version so I'll have the other decals for whiffery dickery dock. 

(http://i.imgur.com/J8kqqt1.jpg)

The canopy... though... uhhh... scale wise the glass would seem to be a couple feet thick.  LOL   :o :rolleyes: :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 24, 2016, 10:00:04 am
I'd do it up some other way and also keep the Aussie decals for whiff's, but that's just me. ;D

Looks good, will keep a look out for one of those, I got a NOVO Vultee Vengeance for about what you paid for that. I like the NOVO kit's, great whiff fodder.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 24, 2016, 10:09:06 am
From what I've seen of this one, it makes me want to collect them!  I'm pleased as punch about this one and hope it builds well.  Neat subject matter in these Novo kits.




"I'd do it up some other way and also keep the Aussie decals for whiff's, but that's just me. ;D"     Naturally!!   ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: zenrat on September 25, 2016, 04:24:04 am
Good box art on the Hasegawa Mitsubishi back up there.  Not one i've got in my small (but growing) collection.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 25, 2016, 11:22:36 am
Yup... I think that's what caught my eye.  Looks really nice and the Japanese version of sea camo helped some, too.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 25, 2016, 01:11:54 pm
Filled in where the gear doors used to be.

Just need to go back over now with a thinner filler to make up the rest of the difference... then I'll sand it back down then.... paint??? I think so???    STOP......CAMO TIME!

(http://netstorage.metrolyrics.com/albums/1776826jpg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e4P1L9x.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 25, 2016, 05:12:44 pm
The Novo Sea Vixen is like the FROG one (probably because it IS the FROG one...) only worse.

The FROG ones had bags of flash and a canopy about as thick as a bridge girder, and the Novo re-pops have even MORE flash. The canopy on my Novo one is just a large blob of clear (-ish) styrene.

Luckily I have a Falcon canopy for it and another re-pop of the kit (by Ventura maybe?) which is a lot better and includes the Falcon canopy as standard.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 25, 2016, 06:44:57 pm
@ PR19_Kit :     So maybe I should cancel my plans to collect more if my Venom and your Vixen are both this way....   I don't like dealing with the flash. I can sort of tolerate the 2 feet thick glass on occasion but not a huge fan of it, either. If these two are like that then the rest probably were, too.


On with the OOB Yak practice build... got some camo down (bonus pic of an MC 202 that came with no decals...and I really wanted to build it OOB, I think I have some off a Dewotine that will work but most likely we have yet another whif build coming):

(http://i.imgur.com/LnZxnX2.jpg)


About to paint the blue on the bottom. I decided not to work too much cleaning up where I filled in the gear door. I learned what I did wrong and I know how to solve the problem. The next time I come across this or similar issue I'll know how to handle it.. so... no use in putting more time into this. I got my learning in on that part.

I tried my luck at free handing the canopy frame work. Didn't turn out too bad for ol' shaky here! lmao    It turned out ok and there toward the end I think I fell into a method that will serve me well in the future. It was fun not masking. 


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 26, 2016, 07:05:18 am
What scale is the Macchi mate ? Looks 1/48 but thought I'd check as I can probably help on 1/72 transfers
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 26, 2016, 10:16:37 am
What scale is the Macchi mate ? Looks 1/48 but thought I'd check as I can probably help on 1/72 transfers

She's 1/72.  That would be awesome! I really like the markings and stuff on this one here.  I want to try that camo scheme real bad as an exercise and it just plain looks pretty to me.  I looked at my DeWoitine model again last night and while the decals are indeed containing versions for an italian build, they are old, discolored, and might not be the correct size. Also missing a lot of what I want to have on mine. 

Much thanks. I should be able to reciprocate with something worthwhile. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: zenrat on September 26, 2016, 04:19:32 pm
If Chris can't help you I should have a set of decals from the Italeri MC202 you can have.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 26, 2016, 06:45:32 pm
Thank you!  This is awesome being in company with such kind people that are willing to help.

Imagine my surprise; I got ahold of Hasegawa via email and they said, "sure, we can help you out, we can get you a transfer sheet sent over from Japan for $9.99."  That's just way too much..  I understand, though, they make it, ship, etc.. desgin it, etc, acquire the rights to it, etc... etc... and all that costs something but I simply can't plop down 10 bucks for a sheet of decals. I can get on ebay and find the entire kit for within $5 of that then I'd have two planes and one transfer sheet.

Meanwhile, I've heard of other people getting in touch with kit makers and getting sheets or whole sprues sent out for free.  Revell seems to be good about this type of thing, for instance. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on September 27, 2016, 01:10:00 am
Airfix generally has good product help from what I've been told and I've had dealings with them once, I complained about a warped FW-190 fuselage half because the canopy had been pressing against it for a long time in the packet before I purchaced it, they sent me both fuselage sides on a part sprue for free. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 27, 2016, 06:52:13 am
What scale is the Macchi mate ? Looks 1/48 but thought I'd check as I can probably help on 1/72 transfers

She's 1/72. 

PM me your address mate and I'll get them in the post to you. I have that kit but want to do it in an ANR scheme
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 27, 2016, 11:15:18 am
What scale is the Macchi mate ? Looks 1/48 but thought I'd check as I can probably help on 1/72 transfers

She's 1/72. 

PM me your address mate and I'll get them in the post to you. I have that kit but want to do it in an ANR scheme

OK!  Thank you so much!   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 02, 2016, 04:33:31 pm
Alrighty... I didn't do any progress pics since the last but I did finish this up on Sept. 30. 

As I've mentioned, I wanted to hurry up and put this out before the OKGB started and wanted to do it primarily for practice and to try some things. In that vein, it was a smashing success and I can say with certainty that my filling work has improved by a noticeable margin. Good deal...  I also learned and re-learned some stuff as far as painting is concerned so that's good, too. Having said all this, once I did my learning, I pretty much left things as is. In other words, I didn't try to fix that many mistakes if doing so wouldn't help me learn anything.

I absolutely butchered the canopy... fogging or whatever... once I got the fit acceptible I just slapped it on there. I was pretty sure it would look like crap and it did, and worse. No worries, I know how to avoid it..

The paint finish is also pretty lousy but I learned how to make my paint sit flatter and smoother by the end of it (brushing).

I actually used the decals that came with the kit to see what would happen. Not bad, really. The "20" numbers have a noticeable edge but the stars went on like paint and aside from uneven lines and general innacuracy look quite alright and went on easy enough.  Score? 

I put the other Yak 9 from same mfr next to it four "wing man" photos as a comparison. This white one was only my second build since 1996 so it turned out pretty decent, considering, and I like it more than this camo one.  LOL  :o ;D  After all, it's a whif and I DID try to fix mistakes and refine it. 

(http://i.imgur.com/2QU912f.jpg)

I'm working on getting some more transfer decals and wen I do I think I'll add a couple to it.. this thing looks pretty plain the supplied decals. I'd like to add one of them wreath looking thingies and perhaps some kill marks... or something...

(http://i.imgur.com/TMUWL7W.jpg)

This version had fixed gear.  I scratch built the gear, lousily, out of sprue. I didn't really do anything at all other than sand the ends to appropriate angle to attach to the wings correctly. I don't even think I painted 'em and didn't sand them to round to get rid of the ridges. I thought I remembered matching them up with the one strut I was left with on the sprues but this angle makes them look a bit too long but who cares.

(http://i.imgur.com/UmZHmVg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cPk97K9.jpg)


And therrrrrrre ya have it.  I know it ain't much but it served a purpose and looks pretty good on the shelf, esp. next to his cousin.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on October 03, 2016, 02:14:48 am
Looks good to me. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 03, 2016, 10:45:48 am
Looks good to me. :thumbsup:
Thanks!   One of these days I'll pry the canopy off and clean it up. That's the only thing I really don't like.. despite the other flaws I'm really quite happy with the little model.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 05, 2016, 02:31:41 pm
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14485136_1670063083310978_3284430118062710405_n.jpg?oh=e0de1af21c9407f38461054a5b7eaf77&oe=5876CB03)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Librarian on October 05, 2016, 11:27:09 pm
That's a ship chat-up line ;D.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: zenrat on October 06, 2016, 01:45:18 am
That's a ship chat-up line ;D.

 :rolleyes:

Judging by some of the looks I get when I tell people i'm going to a model show at the weekend i'm sure more than a few think along the same lines as the cartoon.  Must be my stunning good looks and sylph like figure...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: NARSES2 on October 06, 2016, 05:56:32 am


Judging by some of the looks I get when I tell people i'm going to a model show at the weekend i'm sure more than a few think along the same lines as the cartoon.  Must be my stunning good looks and sylph like figure...

Oh how I enjoy a good joke on an afternoon. You are joking, aren't you ? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 06, 2016, 07:29:05 am
Aaaaaa.. hahahhaha! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 08, 2016, 02:04:27 pm
 ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/mu4H8CM.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Librarian on October 08, 2016, 03:53:00 pm
Great minds think alike but....Happy 50th anniversary Trekkies :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 08, 2016, 04:56:26 pm
Great minds think alike but....Happy 50th anniversary Trekkies :thumbsup:

Tooooo funny, bro! It's hilarious, cute, and true all at once. 


LL&P!  I've been a huge Trekker for years.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 08, 2016, 07:00:23 pm
As it's the Abrams-prise, I don't blame them one bit...  ;D

Nice find!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 08, 2016, 07:31:40 pm
As it's the Abrams-prise, I don't blame them one bit...  ;D

Nice find!

LOL


A buddy of mine calls it the "Squiderprise."  He's also not a fan of that particular ship and/or the whole Abramsverse (though he really likes Beyond, which I've yet to see, myself).  LOL     Thanks, Rick.... I saw it and got a good chuckle and HAD to share.  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 13, 2016, 10:10:35 am
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/11219580_1508195879497700_1320987275293280186_n.jpg?oh=db3679144582055e391c2e0ca527213c&oe=58A89ED5)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on October 13, 2016, 07:08:53 pm
Thats how I feel Mr Dr Evil. ;D :mellow: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 13, 2016, 08:51:42 pm
This thing has me conjuring all kinds of ideas.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Pratt-Whitney_T-34_B-17_testbed_NAN10-50.jpg)

B-17 used to test P-W T-34 engine.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: zenrat on October 14, 2016, 12:34:28 am
Good isn't it.  I particularly like the set back cockpit.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 14, 2016, 01:53:18 am
Good isn't it.  I particularly like the set back cockpit.

They probably had to, the T-34 was a monster of an engine, 13 ft long according to Wikipedia.  :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 14, 2016, 07:47:41 am
CHECK THIS OUT... P&W t 34 engine..............  modified B-17 Fuselage...... and 1/48 wings from U-2 attached high on the fuselage instead of low (no telling how well that would work though)....   "what" it would be is for another time, I'm just trying to think about overall shape.

 :o

Saw that B-17 on the wiki page and I was like, "what the hell is that?!"  Took me a moment to realize the T-34 was the only engine running and how BIG it is!   
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 14, 2016, 02:39:18 pm
Ahhh yeah! Found some neat stuff.

I was out in the seperate garage looking around for things to use for modeling. Didn't come across exactly what I was looking for but found some other good stuff. Namely, this set of files.

Other wares include some mechanical pencils (great for darkening panel lines), the thin copper wire for rigging, coiled up wire, canopy handles, etc. And, a compass to use as a de-facto caliper as I can't find mine at the moment. 

Coolest find is the set of files, for sure. Also, the rounded file is nice. Not pictured is a smaller size "normal" file.  You know the kind.. that fit into the wooden handles.

(http://i.imgur.com/TXHJAVG.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 15, 2016, 07:55:12 am
 ;D

(https://49.media.tumblr.com/7de32253d8be4afce9571505fc870f27/tumblr_ntjyx7slcD1tgevqdo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: kerick on October 15, 2016, 08:10:26 am
Ahhh yeah! Found some neat stuff.

I was out in the seperate garage looking around for things to use for modeling. Didn't come across exactly what I was looking for but found some other good stuff. Namely, this set of files.

Other wares include some mechanical pencils (great for darkening panel lines), the thin copper wire for rigging, coiled up wire, canopy handles, etc. And, a compass to use as a de-facto caliper as I can't find mine at the moment. 

Coolest find is the set of files, for sure. Also, the rounded file is nice. Not pictured is a smaller size "normal" file.  You know the kind.. that fit into the wooden handles.

(http://i.imgur.com/TXHJAVG.jpg)

Good stuff! Those files are not cheap new. And a thousand uses.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 15, 2016, 10:17:51 am
It's amazing sometimes what items one forgets about owning!  All 12 are there, none broken or worn down. Slight rust patina going on but I could care less. By time it gets to the point where it ate them up beyond usable I'll already be pushing daisies. Besides... a lot will come off as I file.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 18, 2016, 12:23:09 pm
Well now...  I sprung for a kit that I was wanting to do in time for Halloween. I mentioned it around here somewhere wanting to make it and show it to everyone as a surprise.

I believe, with the kit itself, that I already have everything I need to do it.  So, keep your eyes peeled on Halloween for a special tribute to the Spiffing Whiffing community here at W.I.M.

 :lol:


In other news, I actually managed a few solid, good hours of modeling last night working on my flight demonstration team Yak 9  or 7 or whatever it is and also the F-110B Vulture (MiG-27) time travelling and alternate universe/history build. Good stuff. Still have some slight issue with the yak concerning filing things and sanding it smooth but the upper portion is looking pretty glorius and the bottom side is at least 50-70% better than it was.  I'll post updates in the threads at some point. Also managed a few pictures of my resin casting project and I might be working on that, some, too, today.

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on October 18, 2016, 11:03:22 pm
I've been tinkering on and off for a while making moulds with play dough and then adding my left over Auto Body Filler to them as I go building other things. Had some shocking results at first that may get used as substructure for other projects, but I also now have two sets of solid usable VB Spitfire wings and some Rufe floats... ;)

Looking forward to seeing what the Halloween build is. :thumbsup: :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 09:31:08 am
I've been tinkering on and off for a while making moulds with play dough and then adding my left over Auto Body Filler to them as I go building other things. Had some shocking results at first that may get used as substructure for other projects, but I also now have two sets of solid usable VB Spitfire wings and some Rufe floats... ;)

Looking forward to seeing what the Halloween build is. :thumbsup: :mellow:

Thanks! It'll be neat.  That's all I'll say.  ;D

Play dough, huh?  Any insight on that?  Any tips or advice you could offer would be great. If I can get this type of things going properly I'd love to make a few masters of things like pontoon floats, weaponry, turbine engines, radomes, etc. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on October 19, 2016, 09:41:09 am
Trial and error is all I can really say, besides the container that I put the play dough into needs to have high walls and be not much bigger than the part I'm trying to mould or otherwise the play dough sinks and looses shape too quickly, the Rufe floats and Spit wings I made in two halves and joined them together with more filler after as I'm still trying to figure out how to make whole parts in one hit, for that I don't think play dough is up to task...

Edit: Also the play dough moulds are single use as the filler sticks to it and pulls out with the part, for the 2 pair Spitfire wings I had to repeat the process 8 times. :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 09:52:42 am
Trial and error is all I can really say, besides the container that I put the play dough into needs to have high walls and be not much bigger than the part I'm trying to mould or otherwise the play dough sinks and looses shape too quickly, the Rufe floats and Spit wings I made in two halves and joined them together with more filler after as I'm still trying to figure out how to make whole parts in one hit, for that I don't think play dough is up to task...

Edit: Also the play dough moulds are single use as the filler sticks to it and pulls out with the part, for the 2 pair Spitfire wings I had to repeat the process 8 times. :o

Bro, release agent. Someone mentioned it over on my U2 thread I think it was..but that might end that type of problem.  Good ol WD40 or something with a light coat. On the part when its mashed into the clay/dough and also before filling the mold with the goop.  At least, I think that's how it's supposed to go.  That's how *I* would do it. Maybe then the stuff won't stick and you might get a couple more uses out of the mold.

When I did my radome, I just jammed the fuel tank into the clay.... but then, pulling that fuzzy bunny back out?!  FORGET ABOUT IT.. I had to "wiggle" in circles before it would come out and in doing so I increased the diameter of the hole a bit.  I'm thinking if I had sprayed the thing with WD-40 ahead of time it would have pulled back out much easier and I woudn't have had the "reaming out" problem. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: kerick on October 19, 2016, 06:37:26 pm
Definitely use release agent! Both in making the mold and when making the part. You don't want these materials to stick together!
I haven't tried playdough. Good for a one time mold. If you have a simple shape you could try plaster. At least you can get multiple parts from it. The two part silicone mold making material is not cheap but this is what its made for.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 19, 2016, 08:45:14 pm
By Doug Graves.

Based on "Tomorrow is Yesterday" of Star Trek.


(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14713552_324031477961105_7980847390930737411_n.jpg?oh=e65e0c19e2078e1d1e470823cfc7862d&oe=5898454F)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: zenrat on October 20, 2016, 03:01:45 am
Cool.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 20, 2016, 11:45:01 am
Well, now, this is interesting..


(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/9/4/7/1788749.jpg?v=v20)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2075
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 20, 2016, 12:17:43 pm
That's an IAI Phalcon. I didn't know Chile had them.

I know something about them but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention the details................
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 20, 2016, 12:39:21 pm
Don't get yourself into any trouble by any means!   ;D

According to the wiki thing, Chile has this one sole unit. 

I'd never seen one before I saw a pic pop up on my facebook feed a short while ago.  An unusual set of "stuff" on that bird..

I can't help but wonder about that name... "Phal"con...    I suppose it's a mash up of words or something, but still.  :unsure: ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 20, 2016, 01:26:00 pm
I tried translating it backwards from Hebrew but it comes up with 'Phalcon'  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 20, 2016, 02:01:09 pm
Yeah... huh!  Ahh well...  considering the bulbous look I'm sticking with the theory that someone was being juvenile.   :wacko: :wacko:  (doubtful but barring new information, I roll with my own!!!)    ;)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on October 20, 2016, 07:33:57 pm

Bro, release agent. Someone mentioned it over on my U2 thread I think it was..but that might end that type of problem.  Good ol WD40 or something with a light coat.

I have a can of RP7, almost the same as WD40 so I can give it a try, the RP7 can states to be cleaned up with mineral turpentine so that's a bonus but the Auto Body Filler I use seems to be "thirsty" as it soaks up turps and needs to dry out before painting, and then area's with filler seem to need more paint on the first coat or two so I think it soaks that up to some degree too, if it soaks up the RP7 it will be a problem. See what happens, not doing any models for a short time but I'll try it next time I have the filler out. :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Weaver on October 20, 2016, 08:01:53 pm
Yeah... huh!  Ahh well...  considering the bulbous look I'm sticking with the theory that someone was being juvenile.   :wacko: :wacko:  (doubtful but barring new information, I roll with my own!!!)    ;)

Someone posted a head-on pic of it on Twitter with the comment "this is what it looks like when a plane gets stung on the nose by a bee".... ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 21, 2016, 12:50:14 pm
Yeah... huh!  Ahh well...  considering the bulbous look I'm sticking with the theory that someone was being juvenile.   :wacko: :wacko:  (doubtful but barring new information, I roll with my own!!!)    ;)

Someone posted a head-on pic of it on Twitter with the comment "this is what it looks like when a plane gets stung on the nose by a bee".... ;D

That's it! That's what I saw. It was reposted to Facebook but that's how I stumbled across it. For a second I was thinking it was someone's Photoshop job done up to look "funny" but the more I looked I realized... "that's real!"  :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 21, 2016, 01:03:07 pm
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12108809_10208022853713476_2571977477453368472_n.jpg?oh=3b085400f865eb9fd9256c151d2c556b&oe=58AB6D88)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 21, 2016, 03:04:52 pm
WRT mould release agents, you could try baby/cornstarch powder. It's inert, and apparently helps pull the resin into the mould surface, helping to avoid bubbles/voids.

Cheers
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 21, 2016, 03:47:12 pm
Fantastic tip, thanks!  Best part, it's cheap/free.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 21, 2016, 03:56:11 pm
Fantastic tip, thanks!  Best part, it's cheap/free.   :lol:

Cheap/Free is the best!
The tip works best with the usual 2-part pouring resins you can get, but there's no reason it shouldn't work with other stuff?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 21, 2016, 04:58:45 pm
Definitely. I don't see why not.   :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 22, 2016, 04:53:34 pm
Well, SNAFU!!   The surprise project I was wanting to have done in time for Halloween is officially axed. After I bought the kit, two days passed, and the person sends me a message telling my they are out of town for work until the 29th.  THEN, I turn around to buy the waterslides and THAT person was "away" also.  I'm still going to make it, but it will be late..

 :banghead: :o :lol:

Ah well, work continues on my three Old Kit GB builds, so please feel free to visit that forum and have a look! I do my best to take "in progress" photos and chat a bit about what I'm doing. I'm no rookie, for sure, but am certainly a novice/amateur. My stuff probably isn't that interesting to most folks but I'm having fun doing it all and perhaps seeing someone learn and get better is interesting some how..



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Flyer on October 22, 2016, 07:20:54 pm
Gotta hate SNAFU's, not as bad as FUBAR though but... :wacko:

Shame, better late than never. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: Librarian on October 23, 2016, 06:00:52 am
You know its funny but after racking my brains I can't remember when I made that switch from reality to whif. Reality had really got me badly and I was caught in that miasma of accuracy for every kit I was building (Japanese a GOOD!! example) and I know I just decided against my screaming aspergers to paint a kit just wrong...it worked ;D. Could I do this or that? Start cutting things off and adding something else? Whats this substance and could it help etc etc. Never looked back. The idea of building a real a/c now just holds no interest. Sorry I don't post more often but I read everything everyone writes and I'm following your attempts at casting...that's something I've never tried so you're ahead of me now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 23, 2016, 09:31:03 am
Gotta hate SNAFU's, not as bad as FUBAR though but... :wacko:

Shame, better late than never. :thumbsup:

Yeah... and to be honest, I was a bit relieved.  Had everything arrived on time I would have only had 4-5 days max to get the thing built so ... uhhhh.... yeah... I'm not one for rushing things. It might not have turned out worth a damn because I don't want to devote that much effort in that small a time frame. I'll save that hustle for the one week GB.



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 23, 2016, 09:36:47 am
You know its funny but after racking my brains I can't remember when I made that switch from reality to whif. Reality had really got me badly and I was caught in that miasma of accuracy for every kit I was building (Japanese a GOOD!! example) and I know I just decided against my screaming aspergers to paint a kit just wrong...it worked ;D. Could I do this or that? Start cutting things off and adding something else? Whats this substance and could it help etc etc. Never looked back. The idea of building a real a/c now just holds no interest. Sorry I don't post more often but I read everything everyone writes and I'm following your attempts at casting...that's something I've never tried so you're ahead of me now  :thumbsup:
Hey, thanks, bud!!  And the other.. I know EXACTLY what you mean...  the freedom of not having to care much about all that accuracy is liberating. I'm like you, if I'm doing something like a "real" build I get mired in all the aspects of trying to get it right and eventually hours are blown on things like research and other tedious crap and suddenly it becomes a compulsion and the fun drains away. With this what if stuff *I* dictate whatever I choose and if it's wrong.... so what. 

And no worries.. good to see ya pop yer head up from time to time...    ;)

That casting... HMM... I think it might actually work out..   :unsure: :lol: ;D  Only thing stopping me would be my own lack of "finishing" skills. I'm sure the thingy I made will work but I can I actually get it put on the plane and have it looking right...    We shall definitely find out.  And pretty soon, I suspect.. I need to get this out of the way to proceed, really.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 23, 2016, 07:32:22 pm
Practicing higlighting panel lines. I think it turned out pretty decent. I've never done it before. I settle on the bic fine pen there. The fine mecahinal pencil lead works too but is a more subtle effect. Still, the pencil effect is notiveable from nothing at all!  Pretty cool. 

(http://i.imgur.com/FLTeGTb.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 23, 2016, 08:26:36 pm
More practice/ experimentation. This time I used pencil on the raised stuff, and the ink around the rudder.

I think it's good enough to use and will go on my "F-110B Vulture Time Traveling Alternate History MiG 27 Old Kit Group Build Plastic Scale Model. "


(http://i.imgur.com/CwSgwpu.jpg)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 24, 2016, 10:56:11 am
I plan on working on all three of my OKGB builds today. 

I need to show my F-110 some love the most....  Went for the gusto last night on the Spyplane thanks to over consumption of caffeinated soda pop and knocked out a ton of work on that. Really glad because now it's out of the way!  It's not normal for me to work on anything past 10PM and I was up until nearly 2AM getting stuff done. (didn't get to sleep until nearly 6.... kind of rough when the day before I was up by 8).

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12805797_1563590947291526_732738801956514805_n.jpg?oh=95a6ca35c1152cea93eeea45d89a5a57&oe=58A0E516)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 24, 2016, 12:12:31 pm
Saw this on the Civil Aircraft Models facebook page. No info or credit really given...

It's just plain awesome and I wanted to share it here somewhere...

(http://i.imgur.com/iZsSttH.jpg)

EDIT:  The initial picture I posted was too large. I replaced it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on October 24, 2016, 06:43:41 pm
My first thought was a B-17 whif/kitbash. Now I don't think so.

Checked Wikipedia... PE-8?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 24, 2016, 08:26:11 pm
You nailed it...  I went and did a Google search then clicked "images."  Tons of really neat pics! 

I chose to grab this one (no credit or source given, it was from a generic search):

(http://i.imgur.com/qu8TEex.jpg)


I'm with you;  when I first saw it I was thinking it was some type of B-17 "something or other."   ;D

It's cool......   It's right up there now with the B-15 as "must get kit."  (I wonder if there is one of the PE-8?  )  They bear a resemblance, too! 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on October 25, 2016, 06:34:54 am
Pe 8 you say. Well the airframe yes but there's something about the engines that look a tad to "modern" to me. I know there were two types of engines used on the Pe 8 so it's probably me just not properly recognising one of the types
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on October 25, 2016, 09:52:20 am
I think the Pe8 was both inline and radial engine...Lancaster similarity. The radial variant may have been Tupolev produced.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on October 26, 2016, 06:23:52 am
Just had a quick read up on the Pe 8's engines and it used a fair few during its time, including diesels, radials and in-lines.

I think that boxing is the type with ASh 82 radials ? Apparently they were still being used by the Soviet's for Polar exploration through to the late 50's.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)(Star Trek WHIF)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 26, 2016, 08:01:57 am
Interesting thought... it just occured to me that I did my first actual WHIF back in 2009! 

I stopped building models for 20 years starting in 1996, but, in 2009 I became really ill and was bed ridden for quite a few weeks...   Wanting something to do I bought two Star Trek kits and whipped 'em up.

One was the Classic Enterprise (that is, technically, a whif too because I painted it in a shade of gray quite  bit darker than what it's supposed to be) and also a Klingon D-7 that I intentionally set out to paint completely different than anything seen prior.

Wound up with this (bonus.... the two sole Trek kits in my stash. Only reason I have them is because they were purchased for like 70% off):

(http://i.imgur.com/p4X2Psc.jpg?1)



Cheers,
Brad


P.S.  Sorry about the lousy pic. I've already put everything up so it is what it is. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on October 26, 2016, 08:07:45 am
 :mellow: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 27, 2016, 09:02:33 am
Hey! Dolls/figurines are scale models.... of people!!  And we all know there are actual model kits out there of people (certainly of Star Trek people!)  so I figure I'd share this.... 

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14732233_10202356003218457_2399413438698682350_n.jpg?oh=309adb8e6dacb42d22b7b463668a9380&oe=58ABC37C)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on October 27, 2016, 06:24:50 pm
 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on October 28, 2016, 12:31:01 am
You nailed it...  I went and did a Google search then clicked "images."  Tons of really neat pics! 

I chose to grab this one (no credit or source given, it was from a generic search):

(http://i.imgur.com/qu8TEex.jpg)


I'm with you;  when I first saw it I was thinking it was some type of B-17 "something or other."   ;D

It's cool......   It's right up there now with the B-15 as "must get kit."  (I wonder if there is one of the PE-8?  )  They bear a resemblance, too! 



That's the box art from the 1/72 A Model kit of the civilian Pe 8.
(https://s1.scalemates.com/products/img/0/7/3/106073-10000-pristine.jpg)
A Model also do a military version of the radial engined Pe 8.
Zvezda do a 1/72 Pe 8 but with inline engines.  I have one in the stash and its a lovely looking kit which looks like it should go together well.
(http://static.hlj.com/images/zve/zve7264_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on October 28, 2016, 06:04:45 am
Hey! Dolls/figurines are scale models.... of people!!  And we all know there are actual model kits out there of people (certainly of Star Trek people!)  so I figure I'd share this.... 

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14732233_10202356003218457_2399413438698682350_n.jpg?oh=309adb8e6dacb42d22b7b463668a9380&oe=58ABC37C)

Spock figure is very realistic
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on October 28, 2016, 06:06:11 am

That's the box art from the 1/72 A Model kit of the civilian Pe 8.
(https://s1.scalemates.com/products/img/0/7/3/106073-10000-pristine.jpg)
A Model also do a military version of the radial engined Pe 8.
Zvezda do a 1/72 Pe 8 but with inline engines.  I have one in the stash and its a lovely looking kit which looks like it should go together well.
(http://static.hlj.com/images/zve/zve7264_0.jpg)

The radial engined version looks so much more modern than the in-line one it's amazing
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 28, 2016, 06:45:16 am
Hey, Fred! Thanks for stopping by. I'd love to get one of them kits. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on October 28, 2016, 04:58:23 pm
Do it if you have the chance.
Reviews of the Zvezda kit here.  First one shows the crew (you get a full complement) in descending order of size.

http://www.swannysmodels.com/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1331052060
http://www.ipmsusa.org/reviews/Kits/Aircraft/zvezda_72_pe-8/zvezda_72_pe-8.htm
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/amo/build_amo_72142.shtml
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 30, 2016, 08:00:19 am
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14721645_1156782721036114_5000151173997610534_n.jpg?oh=66f488ca0f46006f7960a2ac5e50982c&oe=588B977E)

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Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 30, 2016, 11:49:39 am
I need some help with math. 

If I stick a 1/72 aircraft on the back of a 1/35 vehicle and we assume the plane is a shrunken down version and in scale with the 1/35 vehicle.... what size does it become?  Close to half, right?  Like, if the plane were 100 feet long, it would now be around....48 feet or so?

I need to know what to multiply by 1 to go from 1/72 to 1/35, I guess...  It has to be in the area of 0.48 or 0.49...

If we were going from 1/72 to 1/36 it would be easier.  :banghead:



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TomZ on October 30, 2016, 12:06:48 pm
If you divide 35 by 72 you get 0,486111.

In my modelling universe that is close enough to 0,5 to go for the easy way and divide by 2!  ;D

TomZ

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 30, 2016, 12:11:19 pm
Works for me!  Thanks. 

Even after my morning coffee sometimes math just makes me question my own thinking/results.

I have a couple oddball kits that I want to force to be "buddies" but don't want it to be too outlandish.  The good part is the plane will be un-manned so reducing the size by half shouldn't be much of a problem. 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on October 30, 2016, 08:05:41 pm
Sounds interesting. ZELL style cruise missile or drone?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 30, 2016, 09:59:48 pm
I have no clue what that is!  ;D  (the ZELL)

I'm still a novice...     all I know is I *think* what I want to do is have a smaller "Komet" on the back of a truck. United States got ahold of the Komet and figured it would be good for drones. They scaled it in half and made it into a weapon, etc etc blah blah blah.



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on October 30, 2016, 10:50:42 pm
The more you learn etc... ZELL description:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-length_launch

 :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 31, 2016, 08:38:36 am
Damn that's cool!! Now it's not out of the question to stick all kinds of aircraft on all kinds of stuff. 

Not only that... but it solve some of the problems for my Vatican City Air Force.  lol
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2016, 08:29:15 am
Does anyone know if anyone sells individual or sets of turbine engines?  Like....  1/72 scale turbines off of a 747 or C5 or something ?? I could use about 4 of 'em for up coming hack and slash whif kit-bash scratch-o-rama. I'm going full till on this bad boy..  I'll be sawing things off, moving stuff, adding stuff that isn't supposed to be there, and taking things away that are.

It's going to be nuts. BUT, I need some turbine engines.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on November 03, 2016, 12:30:01 pm
Vaguely remember someone doing some 1/72 podded engine replacements for the S-3 Viking...that's about as close as I can get to your requirements. Maybe see if anyone on this forum has a pair or two to swap ;D.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2016, 12:56:16 pm
That might work out... the aircraft I'm going to build is 1/200 but it's BIG...  (H4 Hercules). 

The idea is to take the 8 prop engines and throw them into the stash and stick four turbines on the wings. (Might have to put them on the top sides of the wings but I hope not...)   Then I'm going to move the horizontal stabs to the top of the fin to create a T-tail like on Galaxies and Starlifters then I'll have a killer cargo plane. 

I'd like to make it military.... SEA camo...  Vietnam.  Lots of coastline to work with so why not?  Another Idea I had was to turn it into a firefighter.  Lots of high vis yellow and red high lights.  Station it in California to fight all the crazy wildfires they have every year.

 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on November 03, 2016, 01:48:01 pm
Martin Mars to Martin Jupiter ;D. Sounds like a plan and a lot of fun :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 03, 2016, 02:37:47 pm
There's LOTS of 1/144 scale engines available for airliners about, the best probably being BRAZ Models at http://www.brazmodels.com (http://www.brazmodels.com) They're not cheap but they're very good.

You can also get 1/72 engines for C-135s/707s too, both the standard P&W turbofans and the later CFM56s, but I can't for the life of me remember who does them.  :banghead:

[Later] Now I can, it's Flightpath. (That's UK Flightpath, not the US firm with the same name.) Also not cheap but they are BIG! Web page here :- https://www.djparkins.com/home.php?cat=245 (https://www.djparkins.com/home.php?cat=245)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2016, 03:18:27 pm
Martin Mars to Martin Jupiter ;D. Sounds like a plan and a lot of fun :thumbsup:.

Yeah!! It could go down as a pretty cool lookin airplane if all goes well. I'm ready to "up my game" and see how far I can push my bashing/scratching skills and these Spruce Goose kits are pretty damn cheap for how big the model winds up being (over one foot long).  This'll be some 2017 stuff, though, because as soon as I get a little free time I want to jump into my (better late than never) Halloween build that I was going to do but had to put on the back burner because I ran out of time for various reasons.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2016, 03:23:33 pm
There's LOTS of 1/144 scale engines available for airliners about, the best probably being BRAZ Models at http://www.brazmodels.com (http://www.brazmodels.com) They're not cheap but they're very good.

You can also get 1/72 engines for C-135s/707s too, both the standard P&W turbofans and the later CFM56s, but I can't for the life of me remember who does them.  :banghead:

[Later] Now I can, it's Flightpath. (That's UK Flightpath, not the US firm with the same name.) Also not cheap but they are BIG! Web page here :- https://www.djparkins.com/home.php?cat=245 (https://www.djparkins.com/home.php?cat=245)

Awesome!! Lots to look at here...    Heck, the prices are kind of steep but not TOOOOO bad.... and course there's the exchange rate and overseas shipping in my case but the stuff isn't out of the realm of possibility. I'm hoping I land this contract I'm working on then I'll have no problems buying stuff.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 03, 2016, 03:35:25 pm
Careful with the jet exhaust! That plane was all wood!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 03, 2016, 03:40:54 pm
It'll be the COOKED GOOSE!      ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 04, 2016, 09:49:19 pm
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Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on November 05, 2016, 01:59:21 am
 :o It's true... Sprues McDuck does exist...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 05, 2016, 08:24:09 am
:o It's true... Sprues McDuck does exist...
;D

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This similarities between vaults is there.  Heck, all them models were piles of money at one time, if one were to think of it that way... lol


My stash isn't near that but it's starting to get to the point where I need to consider better storage options.  Let alone what to do with it all once I start getting them made?!?!?   And best believe I don't plan on stopping looking for great kit deals any time soon, either. I swear, some of the most fun of this hobby is the hunt for kits...buying kits... then just simply owning them. Not many other hobbies are quite the same.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on November 05, 2016, 10:29:23 am
 ;D I've never tried to sum up all the money i've spent since late 2013, when i got back into the hobby, but i'm certain i've spent more than 1000€ just on complete kits... In fact, i've probably spent more than 3000...  :o
104 complete kits in my stash, and i was lucky enough to find all of my holy grail OOP kits, and now that my storage space is full, means i have to increase production rate to keep clearing up some space for the eventual future acquisitions... :rolleyes:
I also agree that the hunt for the kits is part of the whole fun, i've learned quite a few things about the history and evolution of the hobby just by looking up info on old, OOP kits. The reward of finally buying and actually having said kits on my hands is like holding a rare piece of the modelling history.
And although the quest for my holy grail kits is over, i can always think of so many other models i'd like to buy and build... :rolleyes:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 06, 2016, 10:08:06 am
Good to know on the Holy Grail kits.....Something of a relief to wrap up such a process. :D   I'm of the mind that "holy grail" could potentially be a rotating term!!  Once I find my grails.... the title will probably just shift to something else....  Lots and LOTS of neat subject matter out there and some of it is hard to find or plain expensive.

That said, I've noticed over the past decade or so people using the term "Holy Grail" far too often and for sometimes seemingly just awesome things and not exactly true grails. I mean.. Jesus' cup or whatever... was only one cup. I couldn't count how many times I've seen the America Pickers guys or the guys that build cars and stuff talk about finding a "Holy Grail."   Like.... they seem to find them all the time.   ;D ;D

Anyway.. sitting down now to watch some American Football (Hand-Egg to the rest of ya's  :P )  I have my favorite team playing, we're doing well this season, they just sang the anthem as a Globemaster flew over the stadium. I'm going to get back to work on my F-110B. 

I keep having problems with my U2 w/re. the horizontal stabs breaking off or bending. I guess something fell on the damn thing last night and one was cocked downward at about a 22.5 degree angle. In the process of removing It I broke the other one off...lmao   :banghead: :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on November 06, 2016, 05:58:10 pm
If you have some thin brass rod; drilling a couple of holes through the fuselage & then a couple of matching holes into each of the tail-plane units, cutting the rod to match & then gluing on should fix the issue by giving the joins that bit of extra depth & rigidity. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 06, 2016, 08:06:30 pm
Damn sure do have some of that in the form of good ol' old fashioned wire coat hangers (reasonable facsimile anyway). Why didn't I think of that?!?!

Thanks a million!! If my big clumsy butt breaks them off again I'll do that.

If i keep going like this eventually the glue build up is going to have the things longer than spec. :P  :P   ;D

Great tip. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 07, 2016, 05:42:32 pm
Via happenstance, I had 4 out of 5 of the models I've completed since I got back into modeling about half a year ago sitting on the TV stand. I decided to add the 5th so I could get them all in one shot!!

(http://i.imgur.com/MdodXmW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sIQpXCb.jpg)



That Mustang, I believe, I might not have mentioned here?? THAT was the first one I've done after 20 year break, then the white Yak with the weird radar contraption. Next one I did was Capt. Kirks V-tail Bonanza there, then, the camo thing was a Yak 9 I did for practice leading up to the old kit GB, then, the Funky Chicken there with the feathers and stuff was the most recently completed build.   :laugh: :laugh:

I'm having a blast being back doing this and connecting with other like minded individuals.   :lol:

That said, I've settled finally on how I am to approach the WIM boards here without spamming the joint up or looking like an attention (woman of the night.) :

With the exception of group builds, I'll keep all me projects, updates, in progress photos, (memes and funny stories and ruminations! ) and things of this nature contained here in my blog. In addition to this, I will create a "chronic's hangar" or some such in the Current and Finished Projects forum.  There, I will dispense with all the minutiae and just post pics of my finished models and that way others and MYSELF will be able to see, quickly and without having to dig through tons of pages/posts, the finished projects themselves.

I'll provide links and such to the pertinent blog pages that have the details and, as always, discussion is encouraged both places!

AHEM.. just went and found a pic of the P 51.  It was made to be a Mirror Universe (Star Trek) Terran Empire Air Force p 51.  I tried my hand at making it look weathered and dirty because... mirror universe...

(http://i.imgur.com/I5ENWok.jpg)

Anyway, thank you all who are stopping by and enjoying looking at my wares!! Look for my "hangar" to appear soon.   :laugh:

Brad
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on November 07, 2016, 07:08:20 pm
http://www.planet.eon.net/~engthg/
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 08, 2016, 08:11:08 am
http://www.planet.eon.net/~engthg/

Hot dog!!!!   :D    I was just a few minutes ago rolling this idea around in my head again after I saw ercircr's blue Pontoon Buccaneer.


Bookmarked it with bolded letters "BUY ENGINES HERE"   ;D

In fact, I just checked ebay and I won the Hercules. $9 total.. shipping and all...  I don't understand why these aren't more popular?? Even in 1/200 the model itself winds up being over a foot long.... it comes with EIGHT engines....  nicely shaped, long wings........Floats.....   etc...   I'd like to have 20 of these things just for the damn parts!

(or perhaps I should keep my trap shut so the prices don't go up...  :P :P   )

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 08, 2016, 05:34:41 pm
I always seem to be at the wrong place at the right time for cheap or good value kits, or at the right place with no cash. :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 11, 2016, 07:58:25 am
I know the feeling.  MOST frustrating!  I've taken to not even opening the Ebay tab and staying well away from the hobby store...   Works pretty well for the most part!  That said, if I'm in either place, I run the risk of either losing all my money, or being frustrated all to hell about all the sweet wares I can't get.

With that said... I opened up ebay just long enough to buy my first every Tamiya tape!!!!  6mm refill for $4.70 total, shipped right to my door. I WAS going to go look at the hobby shop to get it but I don't want to be tempted to buy anything else... so...   Yeah.. Can't beat this price, either, I think it's a full $2-3 more at the store not counting burning the fuel getting there and back.  I have to have this for my F/U-2 because I'm desperately trying to keep the flubs to a minimum.  That's one more thing knocked out to get that bird completed. Now, just need to get the paint.

Next phase, I guess, is to finish scratch building the sensor eye and the antennas.. also, I need to come up with some more clear parts that go on the belly that I didn't realize earlier were missing. Then, it's on to getting the camo layed out and paper masks created. THAT ought to be interesting because I've never done it before. It's necessary to achieve the proper effect though..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 11, 2016, 11:17:53 am
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Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 11, 2016, 02:09:53 pm
The cat stroke would rip the front wheel off and fling it into the ocean and the rest of the plane would be sitting there!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 11, 2016, 02:46:33 pm
The cat stroke would rip the front wheel off and fling it into the ocean and the rest of the plane would be sitting there!

(http://i.imgur.com/AGthMzV.jpg)


Right?!   :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on November 11, 2016, 03:23:12 pm
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 :rolleyes: then :laugh: and :thumbsup:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 11, 2016, 03:43:39 pm
Exactly... like...  "Ehhhhh..?... OK then, it's your funeral, Sir! "     ;D ;D


You know, this has had have happened at least a couple times due to some fluke of maintenance or something....
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on November 12, 2016, 12:18:38 am
Reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGz692ihAM
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 12, 2016, 08:58:09 am
Reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGz692ihAM



HAHAHAHA!   The Juxtoposition of what a serious business the military is with pure GOOFY stuff like that just cracks me up. I wonder just how many tons of oddball stuff has been launched into the sea over the decades. I'm sure there are "regulations" about that sort of thing but if you think they haven't launched a few busted washing machines and toilet stools off the front of an aircraft carrier you just don't understand human nature!!
Title: (C.R.A.P.) : Count Dracula's Vampire
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 12, 2016, 09:41:05 am
OK! I've made my rounds, now it's time to get down to business. The Spyplane build for the OKGB is slowing down. I have a bit of work to do concerning making paper masks and plotting out the camo pattern but beyond that and other very minor things there's nothing else I can do until I get the paint purchased. 

So, on to the next project. I intended to spring this on everyone as a surprise for Halloween but a number of things conspired to have me nowhere near enough time to get it done so it was put on the back burner. I figure now there's really no need to keep it a secret.   :rolleyes:

The project:

Count Dracula's personal VAMPIRE of the Transylvanian Air Force. Fictional Transylvania, not Romania... won't be any blue yellow and red here... I'm thinking more along the lines of black, grey, and purple... yup, purple.  Will it turn out like a flying turd or will it all work well? I guess we'll see! I only have a vague idea of how I want to get this done at this point. Main thing I need to figure out and get right is the livery. I'm thinking it'll be mainly black and maybe use sparing amounts of purple and grey. We'll see.

As for the rest? Not many modifications to the plane. The kit being used is the spanking new Airfix T.11 with glorious brand new tooling.  All I want to do, really, is add a couple guns, a couple iron bombs, and some video cameras.  Why cameras you ask? Well, seeing as how Vampires are flying this Vampire, they can't have sunlight pouring through the canopy so it will be blacked out. Cameras will be helpful to landing and take off and all that good mess. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on November 12, 2016, 01:03:23 pm
Love it ;D. Should read Newman's "Bloody Red Baron", sequel to "Anno Dracula". Bloody good alternate toothy history  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 12, 2016, 01:30:52 pm
Love it ;D. Should read Newman's "Bloody Red Baron", sequel to "Anno Dracula". Bloody good alternate toothy history  :thumbsup:.
Well now... that sounds fascinating!


Plot[edit]
The book takes place during World War I. It explores the Diogenes Club's efforts to investigate Germany's attempt to make powerful, undead fliers. Heading up the German operations are the likes of Rotwang, Doctor Caligari and Doctor Mabuse. One of their more successful efforts is an undead flier known as the Red Baron. The story also features Edgar Allan Poe as a vampire writer assigned to ghost write the Red Baron's autobiography.

Setting[edit]
The book is set in an alternate history universe in which Professor Van Helsing failed in his efforts to kill Count Dracula. This resulted in a vampire proliferation across the world. The book combines a large number of historical and fictional characters, as did its predecessor, Anno Dracula, and pays tribute to a great many World War I movies and novels.



I'll get my hands on these.  Who knew the Red Barron was undead?!?!?!?    :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on November 13, 2016, 02:09:20 am
Sounds good but be carefull not to lean too heavily on black with red trim or it'll look more like Batman's plane than Count Dracula's.  Not that that would be a bad thing.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 13, 2016, 07:56:54 am
Only red I will have will be the crossed out  "KEEP OFF" things.   :lol:

Oh, and one other place... I MIGHT put a shark mouth on this... modify it to have long vampire teeth, then put a drop of blood on each.  Likely won't happen, but it's an option play. 

I'm thinking fine purple accent on the wings, MAYBE alternating grey/purple invasion stripes. I want the fins to be grey I think (I plan to put a black and purple decal there that won't show up on black, obvs.

This might be the first time I whip up a concept art thing first.. print out the black and white outline then use colored penciles to dial in the paint job before I get too crazy.  Maybe have you guys give me some input before I proceed.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 14, 2016, 10:01:00 am
First ever Tamiya tape has arrived this morning!! It feels cool just holding the neat little package. I don't what it is about their stuff, but Timiya's wares and packaging just seem to give off an air of quality.

6mm x 18 meters long. I wonder how long it will last. I plan to use it in conjunction with my 3m Scotch Blue painters tape. I'll save this stuff for canopies and doing the edge the pain hits, everything else in the "fields" will be the other tape with paper or whatever. 

I can't wait to try this out. I wish I had the paint already for the Spyplane!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 14, 2016, 05:46:42 pm
Cool, keep us posted of your experiences with that tape, I just brought some 3M 6mm green striping tape and that is a massive improvement over the dollar shop tapes, and 6mm-ish fingernail tape that I thought would be good for canopy frames etc... but it will hardly stick to anything and when it does stick it bleeds under so that tape has been assigned to construction duties as it sticks to itself if wrapped around.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 14, 2016, 06:48:07 pm
Roger that. I never imagined myself being so enthusiastic about tape. I'd like to get ahold of some of the 6mm 3m myself.

Damn I hope I land this contract I'm shooting for. I can't wait to hit Hobby Lobby and some supplies stores.   :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 15, 2016, 12:09:42 pm
Working on both the 1/48 U-2 Spylane whif for the group build and also this T.11 Vampire for the Transylvanian Air Force.

Getting ready to paint the Pilot and Co-Pilot when the irony hit me......   One of the pilots there is Vlad The Impaler.....    ;) ;) ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/KVGZlh1.jpg)
Title: C.R.A.P. --- Dracula's Vampire
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 15, 2016, 04:25:16 pm
It's safe to say I'm officially under way on this one. I'm through for today, though, so I figured I'd snap a photo if what I'm working on.

(http://i.imgur.com/lzi0WYe.jpg)
Crappy picture but it tells the tale well enough.

Emperor Vlad and Captain Rotwang there are getting prelim paint as is the cockpit stuff.  I'm scratch building some ejection handles.  The cockpit detail is pretty nice for OOB and it sure is nice working on such a new tool. This thing ought to go together really well with a minimum of filling and sanding. It's a good opportunity to practice on my fine detailing since I won't have to deal with hours of that stuff.

Next round of work will be finishing up the pilots and working on more fine detail in the cockpit. I will strive to take a GOOD picture of it when it is done.

Until next time!   :laugh:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on November 15, 2016, 04:59:21 pm
Working on both the 1/48 U-2 Spylane whif for the group build and also this T.11 Vampire for the Transylvanian Air Force.

Getting ready to paint the Pilot and Co-Pilot when the irony hit me......   One of the pilots there is Vlad The Impaler.....    ;) ;) ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/KVGZlh1.jpg)

They're undead.  They won't feel a thing.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on November 15, 2016, 05:01:21 pm
You sure it's not you who's Vlad, old son? :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 15, 2016, 05:10:59 pm

They're undead.  They won't feel a thing.


Fair point.... . . . .   ;)... . . ;)    :D  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 15, 2016, 05:12:17 pm
You sure it's not you who's Vlad, old son? :wacko:

(http://i.imgur.com/AGthMzV.jpg)

My, how the tables have turned!   :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on November 16, 2016, 06:27:31 am
Thanks for reminding me I'm at hospital tomorrow for my follow up  :o :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 16, 2016, 08:29:54 am
Thanks for reminding me I'm at hospital tomorrow for my follow up  :o :o

Best of luck and .....   don't forget your holy water.. . . . . .     ;D ;D

Ooooh...speaking of, that brings me to my next blog post, as a matter of fact.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) -- Vatican City Air Force is Under Way
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 16, 2016, 08:57:25 am
This morning as I was beggining to wake up while in that 40% awake state all kinds of inspiration came to me. Over in the "ideas" forum I've a post about Vatican City Air Force. Well, this morning the stuff all hit me. In my mind I've always had an idea of how I wanted to do one possible variation. A simple, clean, bright, vibrant white plane with gold accent and some crosses. At the time I didn't have anything I could use but I realized this morning that I do now!

(http://i.imgur.com/9WxzMM0.jpg)

The gold lines there are obvious...  gold trim on certain areas. The little firebirds??? At that size, they look like DOVES... perfect to go on the vertical stabilizer. Next up, clear sprue that I can cut down to size. Cork that I can cut down to size to combine with the clear sprue to make vials of holy water to drop on Vampires! I'll dig up some letters and numbers for unit/craft designators and lastly I have some crosses water slides coming (so I can put some on the Vampire) that just happen to have a nice cross with simple blue wings that I can use as roundels.

I might have a whole alternate universe taking shape here with the Vampires and Holy Men.

One more thing, too, I get to dig into the stash and pick a plane for all this so I may as well use another old kit and have a fourth build for the OKGB.   :thumbsup:

Title: (C.R.A.P.) -- Vatican City Air Force is Under Way/ Picking a Plane!
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 16, 2016, 09:38:12 am
OK! I wanted to use up something that didn't come with any decals and even better, no box or instructions.

It's down to these two:

(http://i.imgur.com/sSJlrWM.jpg?1))
(both 1/72, obviously!)

Fiat G.55 by Aliplast on the left. 1962. Originally came like this:

(https://s1.scalemates.com/products/img/5/6/8/188568-11185-63-pristine.jpg)
Logo reminds me of Italeri....  American based Italeri perhaps ??  https://www.scalemates.com/kits/188568-aliplast-101-fiat-g-55-centauro#

Regianne Re.2001 (1970s) (for some reason, when ya search this through scalemates nothing comes up,yet, when I google searched, I found it... on scalemates.... go figure. Google can find things on scalemates but scalemates can't find stuff on scalemates?!  )
(https://s1.scalemates.com/products/img/2/7/3/144273-11185-61-pristine.jpg)
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/144273-italeri-101-reggiane-re-2001#


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 16, 2016, 09:44:27 am
Both Italian, perfect for Vatican City AF.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 16, 2016, 10:01:46 am
Both Italian, perfect for Vatican City AF.

I wish I could say I planned that but I was just randomly grabbing bagged kits with no decals. Just turns out both of these were Italian. Heck of a stroke of luck, that!   Must be a sign...   ;)   
Title: (C.R.A.P.) Vampire Cockpit Painted, Instrument Panel
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 16, 2016, 05:49:18 pm
Knocked out a bunch of painting today. Cockpit, tires, gear, some antenna lookin things, the pilots, and probably a couple other things I've forgotten about.

(http://i.imgur.com/p72e7Gg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/T1NfJfK.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/bXxnliE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qj1iUSM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tgOQWA6.jpg)

More to come soon!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on November 17, 2016, 12:34:52 am
Have you thought about larger Holy Water Bombers?

Also, AAMs with wooden stake tips?

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on November 17, 2016, 01:09:29 am
Have you thought about larger Holy Water Bombers?

Also, AAMs with wooden stake tips?


Further entries in "The Book of Armaments", chapter and verse....Holy hand grenade of Antioch ;D.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 17, 2016, 07:56:25 am
^HEHEHE!!! 


--Hadn't thought of using the stake missiles but that sounds brilliant!!! NO shortage of the supply of twigs around here with these old Pecan trees and Oklahoma wind....

The thought of larger Holy Water bombs HAD occured to me in the form of those miniature Tabasco sauce bottles.

(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/miniature-tabasco-18446203.jpg) 

Like the viles, I would replace the plastic caps with cork material after the glass bottles are cleaned up and filled with water.  Didn't think of the application though...  I can't hang 'em from wings unless I go 1/48 or above so I stopped thinking at that point.

Hadn't thought of the bomber idea!! I could do open bomb bay and have a few of them lined up in there.   :wacko:  A Liberaor or even Mitchell could work well for this.   ---  I'm saving my Lancaster for the KLINGON Air Corp.   :mellow: :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 17, 2016, 09:06:26 am
Neato!!  My water slide nail art decals from Connie's Creations arrived this morning.

(http://i.imgur.com/XhfagGt.jpg)

The black ones with the wispy purple flowers and the ones with the red hearts and also the ones with the fluffy pink stuff will be used on the Vampire. The "purple stuff" crosses will go on the fins, the others will be cut up into little pieces to make roundels. 

The black crosses with blue wings will be the Vatican City Defense Force roundels.

Not sure how much work I'll actually be getting done on this stuff today as I am trying to do fall cleaning but maybe I can get an hour or two in later.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) Moving Fast on the Vampire-- Intake and Interior Paint
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 18, 2016, 12:23:47 pm
Interior of the intakes and fan painted as well as the uhh.. exhaust opening or whatever the hell it's called.   ;D

Also, got Vlad Dracula and Capt. Rotwang situated inside of the fuselage so that we can never see all the detail I painted ever again (lmao). 

I had a moment of terror when putting the fuselage halves together; I already applied glue all around the seams and was on my way to sandwich it all and I remembered the nose weight!!   Quick fast, I grabbed my fishing sinkers and jammed a bunch in there and got on with the show. Well, they didn't situate quite right and put everything in a bind. I clamped it all and left it to sit 12+ hours. Well, it didn't quite work out and it made one heck of a step right on top of the nose in front of the cockpit all the way down the seam.  I thought I had a problem on my hands but I decided to kind of man handle it.. I pried the seam open a bit so I could get glue in there then used my thin Ca and clamped it.  It worked!!  Within the hour I had removed the clamp, filed, and sanded the entire thing to the point where I can move on.

So far this has been the sweetest building kit ever!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(http://i.imgur.com/EA537df.jpg)
Title: (C.R.A.P.) Moving Fast on the Vampire-- Intake and Interior Paint
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 18, 2016, 12:29:52 pm
And, a funny for today!   :lol: :lol:

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15134669_1752927081636449_8414107856413083368_n.jpg?oh=e2bb735216fdb800663f088026215098&oe=58D3AD12)
Title: (C.R.A.P.) --Vampire Construction -- Complete!
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 18, 2016, 04:25:27 pm
If anyone needs a kit for the 1 week group build, I could recommend this one! 

All done on construction. Only hitch I had came when I went to put the bottom wing halves on...  not sure what was causing it but something was mucking up the works but I dealt with it and moving on . . .   

(http://i.imgur.com/JwvDSfM.jpg)

Paint is up next!  Black, burgundy, grey, purple......   Hell, I've been moving so fast I forgot to try to find the rest of the transfers.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 18, 2016, 05:54:06 pm
I've been eyeing off the T.11 at the local store but it's in one of those paint & glue sets, I'm not paying that amount of cash for a 1/72 Vampire...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 18, 2016, 06:57:01 pm
Yeah best to wait and get it on ebay or something! I lucked out and got mine for $4 plus another $5 to have it shipped.  Another dollar or so and I would have been out.  Sure has been a fun kit! I haven't built anything made past.. oh... I don't know.. mid 90s??  It's amazing to me how far kits have come and how they make them go together so much better with emphasis on eliminating seams. The instructions are great and the decals are top notch and have a lot to them.

Makes me want more new(ish) era Airfix stuff to try out.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 18, 2016, 07:46:05 pm
Yes I agree, I have 2 X FW-190 A-8's and a Spitfire Mk Ia already from the new tools that look to be very nice kits, a Vampire or two is on the to get list for sure. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 19, 2016, 08:48:52 am
Yes I agree, I have 2 X FW-190 A-8's and a Spitfire Mk Ia already from the new tools that look to be very nice kits, a Vampire or two is on the to get list for sure. :thumbsup:

We need a "new tool" registry around here where all the new tools from manufacturers are catalogued for quick easy access.  :D 


In other news, this WIND in our paint booth has both this Vampire and my U-2 whif on hold! I can't do anything else to either one until I get primer/paint down...  I guess it's time to start on the Vatican City Air Force Fiat g.55.
Title: (CRAP) --- Vulcan Cookies
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 19, 2016, 09:01:52 am
JUST saw this!! Time to scratch build some Vulcans out of sugar and flour and eggs!

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15055683_1297044566993202_566746008903248533_n.jpg?oh=32cda74d12a2ce06e25a051f9be2120f&oe=58B65E2D)

http://www.vulcantotheskystore.co.uk/vulcan-cookie-cutter-2109-p.asp?utm_campaign=weekly_promo&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 19, 2016, 10:22:15 am
How do you make camouflaged cookies?

Do they do food colouring in the correct colours even? And how about the markings? Would you really want to nibble one unless it had the correct XH558 serial no.?  :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 19, 2016, 10:34:28 am
How do you make camouflaged cookies?

Do they do food colouring in the correct colours even? And how about the markings? Would you really want to nibble one unless it had the correct XH558 serial no.?  :o

Some assembly required!!  And I guess we should solve all these problems before the JMN's get ahold of 'em (Joyless Munchies Numpties)!   ;) 
Title: (C.R.A.P.) --- First coat of paint down on Vampire
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 19, 2016, 03:23:30 pm
The wind finally died down and I was able to get a coat of paint on both the U-2 and this Vampire.

(http://i.imgur.com/FaCLiKp.jpg)

Next will be to paint on some grey and purple then mask for another coat of black.  Won't be long now!!  I still need to stop and get some decals together for lettering and such.. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on November 19, 2016, 04:18:40 pm
How do you make camouflaged cookies?

Do they do food colouring in the correct colours even? And how about the markings? Would you really want to nibble one unless it had the correct XH558 serial no.?  :o

You "paint" them with melted chocolate.  Dark and Milk for a subtle scheme.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 19, 2016, 04:52:36 pm
Now that sounds good! Better than what I was thinking which was merely differing colors of frosting. Not that big on frosting, too sugary... I'd rather have a more subtle sweetness or have it be like chocolate or cream cheese-ish or something. Pure sugar blast frosting is too much. Of course, a skim coat of frosting can be quite alright, too, though, like the molasses cookies... MMmmmMmmmmM.  Just no globs of soft icing like on cakes. (unless it's whipped cream "icing" which I like)   

OK you guise are giving me CLASS "A" Munchies...   lol
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on November 20, 2016, 12:10:04 am
Use high cocoa content dark chocolate (say 72% or higher) and they won't be too sweet.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 20, 2016, 07:04:31 am
How do you make camouflaged cookies?

Do they do food colouring in the correct colours even? And how about the markings? Would you really want to nibble one unless it had the correct XH558 serial no.?  :o

You "paint" them with melted chocolate.  Dark and Milk for a subtle scheme.

White choc, then dark and milk for a winterish scheme. :mellow: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 20, 2016, 05:16:50 pm
Can you airbrush food coloring?  :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 20, 2016, 05:20:47 pm
Or simply add food colouring to melted white choc... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 20, 2016, 05:44:32 pm
Getting the munchies again....   Someone here ought to shell out whatever pittance it is to get these and fire up the oven. While you're at it, whif them up with a bunch of different schemes.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 20, 2016, 05:58:00 pm
No point myself getting them, no oven. :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 20, 2016, 06:02:07 pm
No point myself getting them, no oven. :banghead:

Y'all are heading into summer, right?  Stick 'em on the dash.   LOL  ;)

Where'd the oven go? Flood and associated mayhem?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 20, 2016, 06:06:59 pm
No, living permanently in temporary accommodation (not for much longer tho, with luck) with very basic cooking equipment. :angry:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 20, 2016, 06:09:16 pm
No, living permanantly in temporary accomadation (not for much longer tho, with luck) with very basic ammenities. :angry:

Good to hear that nightmare will be over soon, with luck. Sounds akin to the days I went on the road doing framing work.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) --What do Vampires use instead of zinc Chromate?
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 20, 2016, 06:16:15 pm
Here at ITAC (Imperial Transylvanian Air Corp) we don't use Zinc Chromate.... we use Zinc Chromaglobin.  This masterful concoction of corrosion fighting ferocity is comprised of mainstream materials mixed with the Blood of fallen enemies. As such, wheel wells and interior sides of gear doors and air intakes are lovingly protected with this blend.

(http://i.imgur.com/ri9Mxl2.jpg)


Also, did some painting of the purple accents and also threw gray on the booms and rear surfaces. Next up, a bit of gloss to keep my purple latex from possibly coming off with masking tape. After that, of course, the masking tape and another coat of black. After that, the paint scheme is set then another coat of gloss so the decals will stick. This black paint is glorious but is rough like some 2000 grit sandpaper or something.


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 20, 2016, 06:39:30 pm
One more for now...   I want most of the boom area to be gray so the decals show up better plus I think it will look nice.   With that in mind, I shot the rear end of this thing with that. Also, I painted purple accents with my acrylic brush paints on the main wing tips and also the little trim tabs or whatever they are..  just to break things up. It might not stand out much with the black paint, but, it's there... 

Here's all that going on  It looks kind of neat this way. And yes, I've painted the glass, it's not masked. I will pose this one with an open cockpit, though, but different from normal.  I want to make mine a sliding canopy so it will be situated to the rear of the cockpit instead of cocked open.  I can't recall at the moment a similar configuration but I seem to remember certain US Navy craft or something having that set up. 

(http://i.imgur.com/Q8lW2kE.jpg)

Now, I definitely need to dig into my transfers stash and try to come up with some letters. I have the main decorations, but no letters and numbers! Speaking of the decorations... I'm going to use a couple of decals off of a sheet that was printed in 1944.  How cool is that?? I hope they work.. I've taken a really good close look and I don't see any cracks or obvious problems so we'll see..

Until next time!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 20, 2016, 10:55:02 pm
I want to make mine a sliding canopy so it will be situated to the rear of the cockpit instead of cocked open.  I can't recall at the moment a similar configuration but I seem to remember certain US Navy craft or something having that set up.

A-6 Intruder?
(http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/a-6/images/dn-sc-04-13039.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on November 21, 2016, 02:27:25 am
Reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGz692ihAM


...and how could I have forgotten this. Starts at about 0.06 mins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GClXXOKe5Ik
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 21, 2016, 09:15:45 am
I want to make mine a sliding canopy so it will be situated to the rear of the cockpit instead of cocked open.  I can't recall at the moment a similar configuration but I seem to remember certain US Navy craft or something having that set up.

A-6 Intruder?
>picture<

Yeah there we go!!  Side by side and all that! Perfect. I think it looks cool and the "other" way makes it look like a peeled back can top or something off some catfood or Popeye's spinach.  :D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 21, 2016, 09:18:39 am
Reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGz692ihAM

...and how could I have forgotten this. Starts at about 0.06 mins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GClXXOKe5Ik

HAHAHA!!!  I love it.

Imagine this... a few hundred years from now some deep sea explorer finds a bunch of piano keys at the bottom of the ocean with nothing else around to indicate a sunken ship...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on November 21, 2016, 01:41:58 pm
Reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGz692ihAM

...and how could I have forgotten this. Starts at about 0.06 mins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GClXXOKe5Ik

HAHAHA!!!  I love it.

Imagine this... a few hundred years from now some deep sea explorer finds a bunch of piano keys at the bottom of the ocean with nothing else around to indicate a sunken ship...


Excellent stuff! :laugh: Love that A-6, i'd never seen one with that camo. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 21, 2016, 02:11:05 pm
All the single seat Vampires had rearwards sliding canopies, so it's not beyond belief that DH could have done that on the T11 and NF10s as well.

The crews may have thanked them, it was quite a squeeze getting into a T11, from my limited personal experience anyway.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 21, 2016, 04:13:01 pm
Right then! Sliding sounds more like a winner than ever. 


I got all the painting done and got a gloss coat on. I also finally got all the transfers in order. This is going to be an interesting looking bird..


In the meantime... the cutting of in weathering technique.. .

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10369730_1451766535140635_2216818076971503403_n.jpg?oh=b043580c2f8a62c23c652b54f57d15dc&oe=588A38CB)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on November 21, 2016, 04:28:18 pm
Pay me more attention, human!
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10369730_1451766535140635_2216818076971503403_n.jpg?oh=b043580c2f8a62c23c652b54f57d15dc&oe=588A38CB)


Looks like fodder for an "exploding AFV" diorama, to me! ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 21, 2016, 04:34:13 pm
Awww, such a cute little helper! :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 21, 2016, 04:36:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AGthMzV.jpg)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 22, 2016, 12:05:17 pm
https://www.facebook.com/yoelkingnobulto24/videos/765701993586811/



 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Imperial Transylvanian Air Corp Vampire--- ALL DONE!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 22, 2016, 07:07:45 pm
All done!! I was worried about the nutjob livery but I think it turned out pretty damn decent for some weirdo stuff...  lol

(http://i.imgur.com/oE5HkFj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/a4wwzjZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BDOBrKH.jpg)

This was SUPPOSED to be a Halloween Surprise for you all here, but I failed to get the kit soon enough.  Good thing, though, as I was able to put more effort into it instead of rushing.

The decals are from about 6-7 different things. Of note are the crosses on the fins - - those are those finger nail decorations decals.  Also of note, the round cross type thing on the port wing was from a set of transfers printed back when WWII was still on... either 1943 or 1944...   THEY STILL WORK!  A little bit fragile, sure, but held together better than stuff I've gotten out of factory sealed kits from the 80s.

I hope you all like my plane!  :laugh:

Brad
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 22, 2016, 07:40:44 pm
Nice! You'll need a backstory the size of a novel for this!
Can't help thinking of a pair of eyes on the windscreen like in the movie Planes.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 22, 2016, 09:08:36 pm
Nice! You'll need a backstory the size of a novel for this!
Can't help thinking of a pair of eyes on the windscreen like in the movie Planes.

HAHAH! Them eyes..... dude... Speaking of, I was this ---->||<---- close to sticking a warning stencil decal right smack in the middle of the windscreen for giggles but decided against it.  :D

Thank you! I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on November 23, 2016, 01:12:31 pm
What a neat looking Intruder ! Have not seen that one before. Great shot.

The Vampire looks great as well ! I like that colour combo on her.

 :wub:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 23, 2016, 05:22:09 pm
Thanks, bud!!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on November 24, 2016, 02:15:35 pm
Yes... Vlad is ready for it's flight! :wacko: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 24, 2016, 02:26:20 pm
Yes... Vlad is ready for it's flight! :wacko: :thumbsup:

 :laugh: :laugh:

It was such a light, breezy, fun build...  zero attention paid to anything historic or even trying to make it "plausible."  I just went for it and what a pleasant change of pace from doing all the research and making sure things "make sense" even as whif-world goes. Not only that, the kit itself is pretty fun to build.  Didn't use a drop of putty on the entire shootin' match!  :wub:

Thanks for stoppin' by!! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 24, 2016, 05:09:53 pm
Time for something different and a bit new.  How's about BOX REHAB?  I've been over at the Airfix Collecting MB's and looking at tips, etc for fixing damaged boxes and I think with guidance and a bit of effort I could fix up my old Hawk U-2A box.

Here's my poor box:

(http://i.imgur.com/aOg10C2.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/222VuSb.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/y3EhOI9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Fv73HId.jpg)
The bottom half, also pretty messed up.

(http://i.imgur.com/9p6UREn.jpg?1)


It's comforting to know there's hope for my box!  I'm currently building the kit for the OKGB and would like to be able to use the box as part of the display.   :)   Not only that, but I think it's probably a cool thing to learn to help fix up my kit stash boxes so they stack right, look better, hold contents better, etc. while they sit in stash-mode. Nothing worse than flat, mashed, creased, torn, "leaking" flimsey boxes making the stash look like trash and hemorrhaging the fiddly bits if one were not being mindful. I always make sure to put stuff in new zip loc type bags, but, still... I'd rather have the whole package more secure. 

Anyone else got an old ratty box they want to fix? Maybe we can do this sort of "together" and compare notes as we go.  Not sure when exactly I'll get under way with this but probably within the next week.  No need to stick with my schedule if you want to do your own, though, I'm just blabbing here .   
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on November 24, 2016, 07:12:01 pm
That will be interesting. Is there a link to that discussion ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 24, 2016, 08:09:22 pm
That will be interesting. Is there a link to that discussion ?
Yes Sir!

Firstly, there's the whole forum (Old kit and box restoration): http://www.modelkitcollecting.com/forum103.html

The threads in particular:

"Ironing buckled and creased boxes " : http://www.modelkitcollecting.com/topic1909.html
This is the one I've posted in.

"Ironing dished or creased old boxes " : http://www.modelkitcollecting.com/topic1978.html

" Replacing missing artwork. ": http://www.modelkitcollecting.com/topic3790.html
I have not looked in here yet but plan to very soon.

Our buddy loupgarou here turned me on to the place and I hope he doesn't mind me posting this stuff (I don't imagine he would, but, if I'm in error, I apologize).  It's the Airfix Collecting board. A pretty neat place and I've seen people from here there and vice versa.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 25, 2016, 01:00:28 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/FguZRXm.jpg)

 ;D ;D
Title: (C.R.A.P.) --Collectible Box Repair & Rehab Prelim. Results
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 26, 2016, 05:02:09 pm
Some testing and proof of concept type stuff going on here.  I started work on the bottom half of the box.

Before:
(http://i.imgur.com/Fv73HId.jpg)

After:
(http://i.imgur.com/Hdx6PLS.jpg)


Quite the improvement. I'm not done yet but I'm thinking with how ratty it all is I CAN'T go wrong. All I've done so far us use a spray bottle to mist the inside of the box then let it soak in for ~5 min. Then, I simply took a clothes iron to it on a nice, flat, sturdy surface. 

More to come soon... in peeling old tape and stupid stuff off the top I managed to take some of the art off (couldn't avoid it... leaving the tape and stuff would look worse by far).  One piece of tape was clear and covered important art work so I left that. The other stuff was all opaque and had to go.

In other news, I've been working on both OKGB builds.  I had a tiny chip of paint come off my canopy so I fixed that but in removing the masking the whole canopy came off. It was only glued down with PVA. I'll just leave it off, now, until the end of the build.

For the other OKGB build, I've been painting and scratch building a radiator intake that I lost somehow. That's going quite well already and is looking like it's worth the effort. I was contemplating leaving it off entirely but I'm glad I didn't.

Thanks for stopping by.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 26, 2016, 05:51:23 pm
Logging this here as it's an idea I've had in my head for awhile now bout turning an F1 car into an airplane.

First, take all the "mess" off:

(http://i.imgur.com/ONzf7nW.jpg)

Then make a plane :lol:  :

(http://i.imgur.com/BAtTjKe.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on November 26, 2016, 09:52:47 pm
Interesting! I would love to see more!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 26, 2016, 10:58:14 pm
Thanks, friend!  Me, too... if I get around to this type of thing myself it will mean a leap in kit bashing. I've been scratch building and modifying things but nothing approaching this level.

I've actually had my eye on an F1 car kit on ebay for some time now but the shape isn't quite like this picture (I'd rather one like this picture!! ) but it's pretty nice though ..  all the others that would work better are much more expensive so I have no clue how soon it will be when I can get my hands on a suitable kit.

Thanks for stopping by, bud!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on November 27, 2016, 10:54:26 pm
Like the F1 idea. :thumbsup:


I've often eyed off the shapes of hydroplane canopies and intakes wondering about airborne applications. ;D
(http://kndu.images.worldnow.com/images/19553711_SA.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on November 28, 2016, 05:51:53 am
Now those things are an interesting aerodynamic balancing act!

Just enough down-force to hold the boat on the water but not so much that the hull is forced down into the water, as minimal hull/water contact is the aim to minimise drag.

A whole bunch of fluid dynamics goes into the designing of those hydroplane racers.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on November 28, 2016, 09:10:04 am
Man I forgot all about those insane racing boats! That would be a really cool kit bash project for sure.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on November 29, 2016, 02:45:27 am
Now those things are an interesting aerodynamic balancing act!

Just enough down-force to hold the boat on the water but not so much that the hull is forced down into the water, as minimal hull/water contact is the aim to minimise drag.

A whole bunch of fluid dynamics goes into the designing of those hydroplane racers.

There's got to be some WIG (Wing In Ground effect) stuff going on as well with that flat area between the hulls.
Hmmmm, ekranoplan racing, now there's an idea...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 01, 2016, 01:20:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/RxVceSg.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 02, 2016, 02:44:47 pm
Not a lot to talk about. Being doing a bit of work on my Vatican Air Force (Defense Force) airplane for the group build... now, In the midst of fall cleaning, I'm committing a bit of time to getting the modeling stuff organized and cleaned up.

So, anyway, here's another funny.   :laugh:

(http://i.imgur.com/W3Neh0V.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 02, 2016, 04:40:03 pm
Storing this here for safe keeping. 

I plan to recreate this some day using stuff I find in my yard and maybe some odds and ends from inside, as well.  Wood, stone, cloth, maybe a bit of styrene to make the gears, peddles, chain,  and stuff...

(http://i.imgur.com/dEQorB7.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on December 02, 2016, 07:10:28 pm
Not a lot to talk about. Being doing a bit of work on my Vatican Air Force (Defense Force) airplane for the group build... now, In the midst of fall cleaning, I'm committing a bit of time to getting the modeling stuff organized and cleaned up.

So, anyway, here's another funny.   :laugh:

(http://i.imgur.com/W3Neh0V.jpg)

The kit box must be made with Time Lord technology!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 02, 2016, 07:43:30 pm
Timey Wimey my friend! MUCH bigger on the inside..  --  perhaps he's living IN the box.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 10, 2016, 03:04:47 pm
All done with me latest Old Kit Group Build project. I just realized I haven't linked to them here (I don't think) so I'll do that now but rather than linking to my individual build pages in that section, I'll just link to the finished builds thread which conveniently has said links therein. Not only that, while you're there, have a go at everyone else's stuff, too!! Lots of neat builds in there.

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,42756.0.html

Moving forward... the only project I have going (shelved so it's not really "going" in my book) is the F/U-2 Spyplane thing I'm building. Still waiting on paint. lol  For a minute I toyed again with the notion of brush painting it but after sleeping on it decided again to just bide my time and wait for the paint.  If I can get it I don't foresee more than 3-4 days tops on the painting process so there's still a decent chunk of time left to get that sorted. 

In the meantime what to do with myself?  I have an f-84 build I want to do in a Republic of Molossia scheme. This model was already started and a decent deal of assmebly done so it might be a good way to knock a model out quickly.  Not only that, but I told the President of Molossia that I was building it so I'd rather not keep people waiting. I also would like to do a Star Trek OOB build. I have a 1/2500 three piece set of the original ships... the Enterprise, a Romulan, and a Klingon.  It would be cool to do maybe one of those.  I don't really have the proper paint for those though.

Here's the F-84 stuff:

(http://i.imgur.com/OrsMgAd.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4ODaktJ.jpg)

I already have the decals picked out. I just need to finalize what I want to do with the paint..  I was thinking a combo of NMF and white with blue and green highlight as the Molossia colors are Blue White Green.    Maybe white wings and a blue strip across the top? The rest metal?  (tips tanks already green and some of my transfers are blue green and white striping) 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2016, 04:29:39 pm
That F-84 box has to be a contender in the 'World's Rubbishest Kit Box' competition!  :o

The plastic looks good though, and it's a pretty good kit too. It'll be good seeing what you do with it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 10, 2016, 04:58:31 pm
^ (http://i.imgur.com/AGthMzV.jpg)   That's without a doubt, sir!!   ;D  And thanks.. I hope it turns out great! The subject matter is pretty neat. A lil "micro nation" here in the states. I think the colors and scheme have a chance to be really sharp looking... these three colors have always been a favorite of mine and with some nice shiny metal could look cool.  :lol:



Having looked at the "stuff" again I do believe I will paint the fuselage NMF along with the horizontal stabs then I'll paint the wings proper and the fin white. I've already painted green strips on the end of the horizontal stabs and the tip tanks are green as well. The white along with some blue striping transfers will have mneat as I've located a blue/white/green striped bit of transfers so this will be having all the necessary colors!  Awesome!  I have all the paints I need, too, so this is great... no waiting to hit the supply house.

Here's what I've been working on and how I trim up my sprues before I prime/paint the small bits. I trim off all the connecting points down to one. I decide which one to use based on where it will fall; i.e. I'll leave where a gear door connects to the wing attached because when I do trim it off I can file it down without having to repaint as that small bit will be glued to the wing and never seen. For the other parts I select whichever connecting point is the sturdiest and remove the rest then file the nubs down. I try to do as much prep as I can at this stage to minimize handling and wear after the initial paint.

(http://i.imgur.com/2IWX9Ye.jpg)

Uhhh what else...   no pilot figure with this. Just a seat. I guess I'll glue that in and call it good.. I'm not going to fiddle too much on this with intricate detail. Canopy and wind screen I'll hand paint like I did with the last one since I'm getting better at it. (someone would have to pay me to mask all that crap! )   ;D

Previous owner seemed to do a fine job of eliminating the seams on the fuselage so that's a plus. I doubt I'll do any of that myself on the rest. It would need it at the wing roots but I think it will be fine without it.. not every model needs to try to be some master model. Also, thankfully, previous owner installed weight into the nose!  Glorious!

That's all for now I guess. Stay tuned for more! Masking and some paint is next I think.  :lol:






Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 10, 2016, 08:14:08 pm
That colour scheme sounds really sharp.
Looking forward to future pics.

Yeah, masking that canopy would be a pain.... I'd freehand it myself, too; less stress, and it's supposed to be a relaxing hobby, right?

Cheers
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 10, 2016, 08:59:18 pm
That colour scheme sounds really sharp.
Looking forward to future pics.

Yeah, masking that canopy would be a pain.... I'd freehand it myself, too; less stress, and it's supposed to be a relaxing hobby, right?

Cheers
Yes! An easy-going hobby. Doing this stuff shouldn't be "work."  I take fun too seriously some times, myself though, so guilty a lil bit ..   ;)

But..

My experience masking canopies has lead me to a conclusion that;  if it's a simple two piece or not much going on, maybe.   But, if we're dealing with cathedral levels of glazing and frame work....  I'd rather a bit of "waviness" from painted lines than countless hours hollering obscenities at my rolls of tape.  ;D ;D

Thanks, bud! Glad you're interested.  I think the colour scheme sounds glorious, as well, and am looking forward to the process.

Some inspiration:

(http://i.imgur.com/Ha9QqTW.jpg)
The Republic of Molossia flag.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 11, 2016, 02:22:24 am
With a 'cathedral like canopy' (LOVE that description.  :thumbsup:) like the early F-84's I tend to follow your doctrine of painting the frames, and don't worry too much about how far you go over onto the glass bits.

Then when it's almost dry I take a cocktail stick and scrape off the 'over spray'. The cocktail stick isn't sharp enough to scratch the glass and it's pointed enough to get right into the corners. Result!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 11, 2016, 10:20:51 am
Yeah buddy, that's what I'm talking about. I use some sharp toothpicks.. same thing with an additional point! There for a short while I was using a steel needle..  ...  SHORT. ... while. lol I naturally fell into the the method from butchering a canopy or two from trying to paint the frame work with toothpicks (different kind that are much more flat and no uniformity between individual picks unlike the nice sharp rounded ones). I don't know what the hell I was thinking..  I had a perfectly good never used fine point actual paint brush sitting here the whole time. I think I was holding off using it long as possible out of some weird sense of wanting to preserve it.  Whatever, I got over that and since then brushing canopies is the way to go! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 11, 2016, 12:18:54 pm
Great minds think alike.  :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 12, 2016, 06:44:07 pm
Good news, everyone! I finally bought the paint I need to use on my U2 Spyplane whif!! That project is coming off the shelf and work will resume probably tomorrow.  :lol:

In other news, I have a Star Trek itch need'n scratched so I delved into the stash and snagged me set of three 1/2500 Star Trek (TOS) starships:

(http://i.imgur.com/0m9zQTV.jpg)

These things are itty bitty. If I were to compare to aircraft I'd put them in the smallest of 1/72 or right in line with 1/144. The Romulan one, for example, measure 2 inches exactly from bow to stern (tip of the arc of the front of the main hull to the end of the fin..... whatever.. I do the best I can with terminology).

(http://i.imgur.com/q0Nj7ld.jpg)
Crappy, hazy picture but you get the idea! Not many parts.  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/WQtkItQ.jpg)
Klingon D7.

(http://i.imgur.com/tdvNLDI.jpg)
Glorious NCC-1701 U.S.S. Enterprise

(http://i.imgur.com/pffqrCr.jpg)
This type of thing is not what I am used to seeing on the underside of model kit plastic. CBS maintains a love/hate relationship with the franchise as do the fans maintain a love/hate relationship with CBS. More so over the recent "fan films" fiasco.

(http://i.imgur.com/mj7tI5h.jpg)
The propag...err..advertising on an insert inside the kit. It states that this particular kit is a NEW TOOL! Scalemates say "new parts." I actually bought an AMT kit of these same three back in the day but the models were larger.

(http://i.imgur.com/C8fe76B.jpg)
The larger kits of the same. This was a kit I bought and put together way back.


(http://i.imgur.com/ynFgsNr.jpg)
Finally, the sheet of decals.

My appologies on the substandard hazy pictures.  :o ;D

Along with the resurrected OKGB Spyplane and the F-84 I'd like to start on these lil guys pretty soon. I think I'll start with the Romulan one since it consists of a grand total of FOUR parts.  ;D ;D

As always, thanks for stopping by..
Brad
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 13, 2016, 01:44:33 am
You bar steward.  I've now got TOS theme stuck on my cerebral jukebox.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 13, 2016, 10:46:48 am
Then I have done by one good deed for the day.  ;D
Title: (C.R.A.P.) -- Carpet Monster Sighting!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 14, 2016, 08:43:11 am
(http://i.imgur.com/yQG7iIj.jpg)
Saw this on the Facebook Scale Modelers page. No credit given...   


In other news. I plan to continue masking my F/U-2 HAWK. I started yesterday but I'm taking it nice and slow to avoid the fall off of qualite as one goes and gradually tires of the process. Most of the tedious stuff like wing edges has been done. I just need to finish up the horizontal stabilizers and a couple odds and ends in that area then I can move to the fields where I use pieces of brown paper sack. Might be able to paint later today but it is REALLY wind.. AGAIN.  I might try to paint out in my work shop but everything is so, so, so dusty and dirty in there... just moving around stirs it all up and I'd hate to get to spraying and have all that wind up on the model. We'll see...

Until next time!   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 14, 2016, 01:31:19 pm
Masking more on the HAWK but I snapped the damn (one of) stabalizer off so It's being glue back on then I need to PSR is and hit with primer again.  All my fault... concentration slipped then I pretty much jammed it into my leg as I braced it for masking. WOOPS!   ;D ;D

SO... I stopped doing that and got back working on my F-84 of the Republic of Molossia! The current task at hand is to create some roundels and fin flash. I plan on it being somewhat of a U.S. style with the round part and "wings" (I saw the proper name for 'em the other day but already forgot). Instead of a star, I use upside down blue triangle and instead of RWB, I use the blue white and green of Molossia in the same order from top to bottom as their flag. This is what I have so far... 

(http://i.imgur.com/0HMu42o.jpg)

I'll need to spray a bit of white paint onto the fuselage sides before I can mask the area off then paint NMF on the rest. Really, I just need to get two good circles because the "wings" of the roundels already are on a white background. I'll probably have a bit of white come off each side so there aren't any accidental gaps between the circular part and the "wings." Lucked on the actual wings as they will be painted white so no masking necessary, just apply the transfers! 

Still far to windy to be outside and still don't like the idea of trying to spray in the garage. I suppose I could simply hold the stuff and spray it in the air (in the garage).  Might just do that so painting soon, maybe?  Otherwise I may get starting on my cute lil Star Trek starships.  :laugh: :laugh:   

In the meantime I think I'll stop and play around in MSPaint just a lil bit and whip up a facsimile of these roundels to see what they may look like all together. 

Cheers.  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 14, 2016, 02:11:16 pm
Not exactly how it will be but pretty close and I think it looks well enough to "approve."  I was considering being lazy and having the round part be square so it's easier (?) to mask but I don't think it would look very good. This here is decent I think.


(http://i.imgur.com/BLBTFZJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 14, 2016, 04:10:42 pm
I've about had it with the camera on this phone. I know most of what is wrong is my lack of knowledge of proper use and settings but damn... I swear I don't remember this much difficulty in the past. OH WELL.  :o ;D  I did manage a pic but I'm not playing "paparazzi" tonight taking 85 thousand pictures to weed through to get to a good one.

I sprayed the rear half of the fuselage and the fin so I can mask for the white fin and white roundel border. Ever since Zenrat told me how to do the mist-wait technique my spraying of white has been pretty much flawless. It looks so nice, flat, and pretty! Almost a shame I have to cover about half or more up. Oh well, at least the main wings will have a nice big spread of it.  ;D ;D I just love white paint. This is $1 Wal Mart stuff, too.  :lol: 

Just goes to show if you learn how to use it, sometimes even cheap stuff can be pretty good! (same thing for the black. Even though the cans are the same and say nothing about the finish, the white finishes gloss or semi gloss and the black finishes matte...  perfect in my mind although matte white would be killer, too, as an option.)

I'm getting off track, here's the work:

(http://i.imgur.com/PiEx9fK.jpg)

Now I want to mask the wings and get them painted.

Next order of business... I went to the Republic of Molossia Facebook page and shared the roundel I made, thanked them for the Christmas Card, and made short mention of the progress made. In short order the President himself arrived:

"Were we to have an Air Force, I have always favoured the Pegasus for its symbol."

And provided a pic of the sweet Mobil pegasus:

(http://i.imgur.com/4lsCCVX.jpg)

So now I'm thinking of trying to get my hands on some sort of pegasus transfers. *I asked if he had a color preference and he hasn't gotten back to me yet but It's pretty safe to assume one of the three Molossia colors and barring that, red just like this one. 

That's all for now I guess.

Thanks for stopping by.  :lol:



*EDIT:  hehe... this is fun. He got back to me and said blue or green on the pegasus. Now, I wonder, where one could be had? I'm positive some exist on automotive models like racing stuff, etc... but are there any in blue or green?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 14, 2016, 06:40:27 pm
Moving on. I guess I have a bit of spare time, eh? Working on multiple projects! 

I trimmed the Romulan starship from the sprues then ever so lovingly used metal files then sand paper to address the points of removal (I used a pair of tiny dikes to clip the pieces but still leave a tiny bit of "left over"on the parts). I dry fitted the nacelles with the pylons they go onto; I saw a couple tiny spots needing cleaned up then did so, then dry fitted again to make sure they look ok. They do now... sweet! 

Next, I dry fit the top part of the hull to the bottom part.

(http://i.imgur.com/rFE1Vno.jpg)

Is this normal in tiny model stuff???  That seems like a TERRIBLE place to have a seam.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 14, 2016, 07:45:38 pm
Good God...  "snap" fit. Sheesh. It took a good deal of force and prying to get the fuselage halves separated again. *There was a substantial step between them so I'm going to delete the guide pins and file down the female retaining slots so I can get the hull halves to fit better and more flush. I do believe this will save a good portion of the inevitable filling, filing, and sanding.

For something the size of a coin it may seem like too much work but I don't care... that's part of the challenge. In fact, it was sort of nice to use my needle files and hit something with a light touch for a change as I refined the trimmed parts.

With that, it's nearing on 10 PM here and I think I'll call it quits. I actually got a good deal of model work done today and it was fun! I worked on three different projects and advanced every one of them despite a set back with the U2. (I even managed to knock out a bunch of household chores, too, --so it was guilt free modeling!!!)

Until next time.  :laugh:


*EDIT:   OK, I was just told that that ridiculous seam and step was accurate and intentional. OK!  looks like A$$ to me but I'll take it! Eliminates a ton of work...  We'll be keeping it. I guess I can go ahead and snap these pieces back together. They fit so well there's no need for glue. lol   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 15, 2016, 09:13:49 am
Ready to prime the pieces to my Romulan ship.  :lol:

Also, I'm monkeying about with my camera settings here. Not sure I've achieved much yet but I'm trying.

(http://i.imgur.com/wubc3T1.jpg)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 15, 2016, 09:26:59 am
Just saw a funny out on the ol' Facebook.  ;D ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/0z1iwC3.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 16, 2016, 01:24:23 am
Har! Like that one.

WRT the Enterprise from that 3-set, it looks to be the same one from the 3-Enterprise set you could get at one time (Original, -A and -D) - this was before they offered them individually for a more expensive price...

WRT the Pegasus; if you're going to print your own decals, I'd just get the shape/size right and then use whatever colour you want when printing? JMHO.

I think 'Snap Fit' refers to when you try to take the test-fitted parts apart again... :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 09:18:46 am
Har! Like that one.

WRT the Enterprise from that 3-set, it looks to be the same one from the 3-Enterprise set you could get at one time (Original, -A and -D) - this was before they offered them individually for a more expensive price...

WRT the Pegasus; if you're going to print your own decals, I'd just get the shape/size right and then use whatever colour you want when printing? JMHO.

I think 'Snap Fit' refers to when you try to take the test-fitted parts apart again... :banghead:

Hahaha!!!! Tell me 'bout it!! I was so scared.... The level of force I had to apply was bordering on, "I just know if I pry on this some more it's going to break." Thankfully, it gave (the proper)way.

Yeah, I do believe it is the same... they just subbed the other E ships for the alien ones. Works for me! I'd like to get ahold of that other one, too, though. I'd like a nice rack of 1/2500 Enterprise ships all the way through. I know ... uhh... AMT? Released a set with ALL the E's in it but I don't recall at what scale.

I don't print my own decals yet but plan to learn one day. I'm thinking most likely I won't be able to include a pegasus with this scheme no matter how much Mr. President wants one....  ;D ;D 



Anyway!!! Yesterday I masked and painted the wings of the F-84 and started on the Romulan Warbird. Both glorious white. Finish on the F-84 could have been better but I'm happy with it. The finish on the Romulan ship looks fantastic. One more coat to sort of "fill in" around where the nacelles attach and I can let it sit a couple days then decal it. Quickest, easiest build ever??   

After that, I need to mask for or just "go for" the painting of the round bits at the front of the nacelles. Paint instructions call for "amber" so I grabbed "neon red"  (which looks orange to me, for sure)  red, and yellow and will try to mix them into something reasonable. I'd like to only partially mix the paints to leave streaks inside to represent a swirling motion like what is on the Enterprise. I'll have to check, first, to see if it is accurate or not. If not, I'll mix the paints well instead of having the streaky stuff.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 09:30:29 am
OK, update photo of the wings. I got all the masking off. Some of the green on the tip tank came off but it looks "natural" and thankfully metal color was beneath. So... it looks fine!  This is what I get for painting acrylics on top of enamel and I don't even think I "roughed it up " first.

Anyway! The rest looks pretty decent:

(http://i.imgur.com/VBSQht6.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 16, 2016, 12:09:35 pm
The Enterprise Collection in Glorious 1/2500 are all available from Round2, but as I say- they've broken up the 3-sets into separate kits.
There are others now available; Reliant, Yorktown, Cardassian, etc.

http://round2corp.com/product/cadet-series-motion-picture-era-set/

http://round2corp.com/product/star-trek-adversary-set/

http://round2corp.com/product/star-trek-cadet-series-deep-space-9-3-ship-set-snap/


It seems I am mistaken:

http://round2corp.com/product/star-trek-u-s-s-enterprise-box-set-snap/

ALL OF THEM!

Dang, there are some interesting things on that website...

Anyhoo, hope this is of use.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 01:38:41 pm
That's it! I believe the person I saw mention it said it was $80 U.S.  I'll get one one of these days.   :lol: :lol:

Pro: they say the come with "display boxes."  I'd like to know just what that means..

Con:  "Pressure sensitive decals provide intricate surface details, pennants and registry letters without the need for water ...."    Sounds like BS talk for "stickers."
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 16, 2016, 06:07:37 pm
Stickers or dry transfers if you ask me.

Interesting that it contains the Ambassador Class Enterprise C which was only seen in one episode of TNG.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 06:15:11 pm
Lil Romulan feller is pretty much done with the main painting stage.

(http://i.imgur.com/xXjTXM0.jpg)
Moved my picture taking to directly under the light source(you'd think this would be common sense but I truly am a pure rookie at picture taking) here in the room. Also, I manually selected the focus point.

(http://i.imgur.com/MWs7M8m.jpg)
Forgot to focus this time! Oh well, it's still a neat picture because it is a pretty nice angle as it were. Like she's flying past.  :lol:

Next I will paint the amber colored round bits at the front of the nacelles. I'm not sure how to approach it. I've half a mind to try to free hand it with my fine brush but I'd rather a clean line from what could be produced by masking. But, it's so damn small I don't know how to mask it...  A bunch of individual little pieces???  Use my cutting mat and circle stencil to knife out a ring made of masking tape??   :o   The little half spheres are about half the size of a half of a marble or even smaller. This stuff is so tiny..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 06:19:11 pm
Stickers or dry transfers if you ask me.

Interesting that it contains the Ambassador Class Enterprise C which was only seen in one episode of TNG.

I love that one! Ambassador class is such a pretty ship.

I forgot about the dry transfer types. I remember using those on the little...damnit.. the little wooden blocks we made into cars to run on CO2. Rub 'em with a pencil or what not.  ;D
I still have a sheet in fact, numbers, letters, punctuation marks and the like. Gold colored I think. I never considered using them on plastic models, though!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 16, 2016, 06:36:00 pm
I have some chinese made Matchbox knockoff kits with dry rub transfers and AMT used some in a few of their car kits.  They are a PitA to put onto a hard, painted surface as they don't stick too well.  They are also a pig to line up as you have to hold them in place and rub then down at the same time.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 06:58:06 pm
Now that you mention it.. yeah... the alignment problem..  What a nightmare.

This dude that ordered the kit (I think he said he did...)...    I'll have to ask when he gets it what they are like. I wouldn't want to shell out 80 dollars to turn around and have to search out transfers for 7 kits.

This said, I have a 1/1000 Enterprise Refit kit that came with full Aztec decals. Four or five large, full sheets chock full of decals. I'm going to post a pic of all this pretty soon. The decals look amazing to me.. All the aztecing and everything else one would ever need for that ship.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 16, 2016, 09:52:42 pm
I've used some (20+ years) old Letraset on my Shinden; they went on ok, but I put a coat of Klear down first.

One hand to hold the model firmly in the right position, the 2nd to hold the cut-out letter/number in place and the 3rd to use the pencil to rub it down.  :o
It helps to be a Modeller near Chernobyl... ;D

I must admit to the somewhat heretical view that I HATE AZTECING on my Star Fleet Starships... I'm convinced it's akin to the Space:1999 Hawks having orange bits so the Poor, Dumb Li'l Viewer could tell the things apart.
Sometimes a saucer IS a smooth, bland shape - I don't need Fiddly Bits (patterning or greeblies) on a blank expanse, thank you SO much... :banghead:

That said, I will probably mist a random pattern of a different Grey over the base coat, though.

Sorry, Rant Mode Off now... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 16, 2016, 10:18:04 pm
I've used some (20+ years) old Letraset on my Shinden; they went on ok, but I put a coat of Klear down first.

One hand to hold the model firmly in the right position, the 2nd to hold the cut-out letter/number in place and the 3rd to use the pencil to rub it down.  :o
It helps to be a Modeller near Chernobyl... ;D

I must admit to the somewhat heretical view that I HATE AZTECING on my Star Fleet Starships... I'm convinced it's akin to the Space:1999 Hawks having orange bits so the Poor, Dumb Li'l Viewer could tell the things apart.
Sometimes a saucer IS a smooth, bland shape - I don't need Fiddly Bits (patterning or greeblies) on a blank expanse, thank you SO much... :banghead:

That said, I will probably mist a random pattern of a different Grey over the base coat, though.

Sorry, Rant Mode Off now... :rolleyes:

One hand to hold the model firmly in the right position, the 2nd to hold the cut-out letter/number in place and the 3rd to use the pencil to rub it down.  :o
It helps to be a Modeller near Chernobyl... ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/AGthMzV.jpg)


I must admit to the somewhat heretical view that I HATE AZTECING on my Star Fleet Starships...

Nothing wrong with that! I'm a "take it or leave it" type with pretty much everything in life. This particular stuff ...well, it just depends. In the Trek movies (based on TOS) they have these glorious beautiful spacecraft and in some close shots you can see the beautiful squarish variation stuff. That said, I don't knock anyone for loving the clean look. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 17, 2016, 01:30:11 am
I had no idea what aztecing was.  Thank you google.

It strikes me that it is the starship modelling equivalent of preshading - i.e. it is contentious but expected for contests.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 17, 2016, 02:19:31 am
Y'know, that's not a bad simile.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 17, 2016, 02:25:52 am

It strikes me that it is the starship modelling equivalent of preshading - i.e. it is contentious but expected for contests.


Which just goes to show how out of touch with reality, either virtual or real, the contest judges are.  :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 17, 2016, 10:31:27 am
 ;D


Check this out... these first two are ones done using decals. The next is someone's insane level of patience and masking and painting it all. No after pics of this one but I'll try to get some and update.  I've seen pictures of ones 2 or 3 times more intricate. I'd throw myself out a flippin' window before I commited to amount of masking!!   ;D ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/pKr2xaG.jpg)
By Cam Morley

(http://i.imgur.com/MjU57S1.jpg)
By Cam Morely

(http://i.imgur.com/hhKehcI.jpg)
By Butch Bryan

Pre shading? I've seen some with it AND this aztecing!  :o ;D ;D

The aztecing has merit in that it was on a lot of the ships but it was never all too pronounced. MUCH more subtle:

(http://i.imgur.com/StMEeBs.jpg)

I'm going to put mine on a WHITE ship so they're REALLY going to stand out. I may as well plan to get another to do without 'em though.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 17, 2016, 02:17:56 pm
The Starship Modeller Store has Aztec Masks, IIRC they're pie-shaped sections of 'positive' and 'negative' masking to get the effect.

The transfers would be much easier to my mind, but still not the way I want to go.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on December 18, 2016, 01:05:21 am
The top one of your two pics is absolutely amazing  :o There is no way I would have the patience but boy do I admire someone who does  :bow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 18, 2016, 08:27:43 am
Yeah I might wind up throwing mine out the window! (nahhhh but I hope I find a good system for applying them that doesn't drive me nuts)   They're  bunch of wedge shapes, pretty large.  I can't wait to try it, though! 

I've been watching all these builds on the Star Trek Modelers group on Facebook. LOTS of cool stuff and I'd say less than 10% of it is made how it's supposed to be..   It's pretty much ALL whif stuff...  Even saw a Voyager build the other day with similar colors to my nutty Vampire Vampire....talking black and purple.  Just yesterday the Ship of the Year was awarded to a neat Miranda class kitbash (Like Reliant in  Wrath of Khan) that had the nacelles attach to the bottom of the secondary hull and also had a third attached to the saucer section. It was like smashing a Dreadnaught into a Miranda.  Lots of and lots of alternate paint colors and all kinds of neat stuff.  In fact, I feel like the weirdo for trying to build these three little ones accurately.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 20, 2016, 09:51:02 am
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! I'm a little bit excited today because the weather is cooperating somewhat and I ought to be able to paint outside! I need to do painting on all three projects. I have to finish masking the Spyplane (another 10 minutes I'd imagine.. only reason I stopped was because the light situation deteriorated and I was having a few beers that evening and decided to shelve it)..

Romulan gets silver paint. F-84 needs to be masked then also silver paint. I had to make an alteration to the paint scheme because the border to the roundel would have been a bit large and would have looked quite goofy on this plane... so.....the rear half will be white. I hope it turns out OK. I'm thinking now I might like to have some sort of stripe of paint where the white meets the silver but we'll see..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 20, 2016, 10:11:57 am
(http://i.imgur.com/R11yTjG.jpg)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 20, 2016, 12:02:48 pm
So much for all that!!  The only thing that went off without a hitch was the Romulan ship. My F-84 crazed where I sprayed black over a bit of white so I'll need to let it dry then sand and try again. Same thing on the Spyplane but much less severe.. just a tiny bit where I had to putty a wing root. That will be a quick fix and the rest of the dark green color went down great!!  Only problem with all this is waiting on things to dry. Nothing I can do about that. The Romulan, while not needing any more work, can't be touch for 4 or more days because this silver paint takes ten million years to dry.

SO, I guess I can go ahead and put the drop tanks together for the F-84 and I can spray the gear door when I figure out which ones are which as some will be metal color and some will be white.  All around I think I can probably do about an hours worth of work before I'm in a holding pattern for paint dry time.

I guess I can start on the other two little Star Trek ships?  Yeah, that sounds about right...

Beyond that I have a really old Airfix B-17 that I want to make a whif out of it...   We're going to pretend WWII never happened. Yellow wings, blue fuselage. This thing came with NO clear parts so we'll be doing away with all the turrets. The "flat" stuff I can use some clear plastic packaging material. The windows may be recessed instead of flush with the fuselage but I don't know what else to do.. I don't even have the main cockpit glass which unfortunately on this kit includes a great deal of the actual fuselage. I found a B-25 glass piece that I tink I can work but it's going to take some cutting, chopping, puttying, and all sorts of scratch build and bashing.

Also, the nose... I'll find like half a plastic Easter egg or something for that and make it solid.. No glass.  I'm not sure yet what this thing will "be" but something will hit along the way.  Maybe it'll be a VIP transport or something.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on December 20, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
I couldn't find the one I was looking for while searching now but several years ago I saw a advert for plans or a kit of a manned 1/3 scale B-17, it had a weird bubble shape cockpit and I was going to suggest using a larger scale pilot for something similar as you stated there was a missing fuselage section but anyhow the closest I found was this:

http://www.theballybomber.com/index.html

As I don't think there would be many 1/3 scale B-17's out there what I saw previously may have been the prototype or a temporary cockpit...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 20, 2016, 01:14:56 pm
Fascinating! I did a lil math and turns out a 1/3 scale B-17 would be the same length as a P-26 Peashooter.   ;D ;D

Imagine a lil midget B-17 shaped fighter bomber with a bubble canopy like you said.....   two engines one per wing or a radial engine the nose.   ;D ;D

I think the missing bits of the fuselage are sounding a bit more menacing than they look. The B-25 bit actually wound up being the same width and the length seems to work too... I'll snag a pic when I finish lunch . . . . .



 . . .. .

Hey it's not as bad as I remember! It's more of the frame work that is a part of the original glass than anything but I'll still need to cut off parts of the roof and sides near the back of the cockpit in order to get the new piece to fit. 

(http://i.imgur.com/6uIdvtr.jpg)
Transfers there are for a B model and the fin flash will have to be trimmed to fit properly. The "US ARMY" is supposed to go on the underside of the wings but I'm thinking of putting it on top instead because why not.

(http://i.imgur.com/rQyNx3r.jpg)
Width is good!

(http://i.imgur.com/BKpIyp9.jpg)
Length is good! 

It'll just take some cutting and putty but I think I can make it work. Now... for all the rest of the glass..... yeeesh..  I might have a couple small things here and there to take care of some of it but a lot will be filled in completely I think.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 22, 2016, 12:05:40 am
Falcon/Squadron is your friend...

http://www.falconmodels.co.nz/squadron72.html

Numbers 9175 & 9176

Tore's stuff comes up really well.

Cheers & HTH
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 22, 2016, 07:56:11 am
Falcon/Squadron is your friend...

http://www.falconmodels.co.nz/squadron72.html

Numbers 9175 & 9176

Tore's stuff comes up really well.

Cheers & HTH

It does! Thanks. Perfect, actually, as I still would like to eliminate the ball turrets.  Reasonably priced, too. 


In other news, a short run down of things I did yesterday.  F/U-2 HAWK had the paint problems sanded away then as I was trying to get the camo lay out plotted for the fuselage I snapped the port wing off. DAMNIT.  (LOL)  So I glued that back... or tried.... without removing the masking on the underside. I think it worked well! I can sand it and paint it today maybe or.... well, the cold and wind is back so we'll see.

F-84 is going good. Got the crazing sanded away then like an IDIOT I didn't wash my hands then grabbed my beautifully painted white tail plains and put two glorious finger prints on the top and bottom of one. So I grabbed my paint thinner to take that off and got carried away so I'll need to re-mask one of them then do a tiny bit of sanding then hit it again with white. Nothing major and will take less than 10 minutes to fix but now I have to factor in another couple days at least drying time!  WASH YOUR HANDS, BRAD!

Romulan went perfectly because I didn't lay a hand on it.  ;D ;D ;D

Any how! I have some work today so I'll be able to try to find a can of matte or satin clear so I can get the F/U-2 back to its proper sheen after transfers application.  Really coming to the wire on this one.. not like I've been procrastinating because I started it all months ago but... still... with budget problems, my lack of know-how, and numerous set backs I don't know if I can get this done in time so that extension period will be nice if the mods see fit to implement it.

That's it for now I guess..     :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 22, 2016, 09:07:00 am
Awww man!!  One of my customers I had today just canceled!  Now, I have just the other job and it's only $20 so the matte/satin clear will have to wait....  I think the tiny little midget cans of Testors stuff at the hobby store is around $6 all said and done and I can't afford that.  (not with $20 being all my money...)

Oh well, that ain't going to stop me from continuing work on it. I'll keep plugging away. 

On second thought... I have an old, partial can of clear something or other in the kitchen. Not sure what type of finish it leaves or if it is even any good any more but I'll have a look, might get lucky!  Barring this, I might use floor polish as it will make things better for the transfers but won't make my flat camo look super shiny. It's an option at least.  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 22, 2016, 04:48:53 pm
Looked and found TWO cans of clear. Both with about 1/8 left in them but neither indicate they are matte or satin so I assume they are gloss. I think I'll spray some on something and see what happens anyway.

In other news, my lil Romulan ship has been drying for a few days with the silver paint. Now I'd like to put the goldish color on the fronts of the nacelles:

(http://i.imgur.com/oNprSvR.jpg)

I think I'll play with my 6mm Tamiya tape and see if I can somehow mask it... if not I'll break out the fine brush and free hand it, hoping for the best. I'm going to try mixing 1 part silver to 1 part gold paint and see if I can achieve the proper color. Maybe 2 parts gold...

Not much else to report. I sanded and re-painted the fouled tail planes to the F-84G.

U/2 remains untouched since I glued the wing back but I can sand that repair down and get back to trying to lay out the masks for the fuselage.

EDIT: I will wash my hands THOROUGHLY before I handle the glorious Romulan micro-ship...    Speaking of, I think I'll dig out my Star Trek Micro Machines when I do pics as a comparison as they are quite close in size, actually.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 24, 2016, 02:13:30 am
... I have an old, partial can of clear something or other in the kitchen. Not sure what type of finish it leaves or if it is even any good any more but I'll have a look, might get lucky...

Try it out first on something that doesn't matter.
Don't ask me how I know this...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 25, 2016, 12:21:42 pm
 ;D ;D

Yeah, I don't even think I'll bother, now... I got a $25 Visa money card thingy for Christmas which leads me to my next great discovery. Hobby Lobby let's one use a %40 off coupon per day. Good for kits or compressors and airbrushes... every thing model kit related this can be used on. SO, I'll find me a nice kit to buy and pick up a little thing of the proper clear. 

I can't help but think about taking advantage of this 40% off a day deal and milk it til they get tired of me.  Buy one item per day and never pay full price for anything.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 25, 2016, 04:48:55 pm
The fact they can make that offer shows what their profit margins are.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 25, 2016, 06:05:11 pm
You nailed it! That's why it chaps my donkey when people talk about paying workers a decent wage as if that would break a company when in reality the CEO could downgrade to a smaller yacht and sell a couple mansions instead.  The profits are obscene but they act like paying someone an extra $50 a month would destroy the whole operation.   :banghead:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 26, 2016, 02:04:31 am
Don't get me started on CEO salaries and bonuses.  You'll get me banned for bad language, political remarks and incitement to lynch.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 26, 2016, 09:13:01 am
Don't get me started on CEO salaries and bonuses.  You'll get me banned for bad language, political remarks and incitement to lynch.


Roger that brotha. We'll leave this one to lie with the dogs.   ;D


MEANWHILE! I Actually DID do some stuff yesterday and somehow forget completely to remark on it.. so...better late than never!

I fixed the crazing on the F-84 fuselage and got the silver color painted. I sanded the external fuel tanks and have decided to paint them blue.

I painted the goldish color on the Romulan ship nacelles.

I sanded down seams on the Klingon ship.

I glued the secondary hull halves and nacelles pylons together on the Enpterprise.

I sanded and threw another coat of primer on the U/2 Plane (over the top of a layer of the dark green I put down but I had to fix so much stuff I just decided to go back to black and start in again).

Tomorrow a trip to the ol' Hobby Lobby here in town to see what they have on the shelves. I'd like to snag a 1/72 something or other. Being a brick and mortar store their prices are right in line with every other online place and every other store but higher than what I like to get things for on Ebay so with the %40 off we'll be back down in "ebay range" I hope. They have a C-54 on their website for $50 which would be $30 with the discount but still too rich for my blood so if they have one I hope it's not no damn $50. Other wise I'll just see what they have. They have less planes than they used to (my favorite) but they have tons of automobiles.  I'll also try to pick up the clear flat or satin if they have it and I want to stop by the 50 cents - dollar paints that I love and pick up some good old white, black, and see if I can find light gull greyish colors.

Thanks for stopping by!  :D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on December 26, 2016, 04:30:22 pm
I was at HL this afternoon but didn't find anything to light my fire.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 09:16:39 am
Sometimes I swear the universe hates me. I go to use the formerly flawless printer to print out my coupon and the damn thing won't even turn on.  :banghead: :banghead:

I wonder if they would accept it if I drew it by hand, making sure to keep the number code....   ;D 

Ohhhh welllll.....     I think I would like to work on my Spyplane today.  I can shoot the dark green then I think If I let it sit a couple hours I can begin the masking for the next color.   :lol:

Let's see how many parts I snap off today! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 02:37:15 pm
Back to butchering kits!  Glued all the wings onto the F-84. Wing roots should have been filled but piss on it. I didn't want to get too involved with this and the gaps aren't severe or anything. It'll look fine on the shelf. I'll let the glue dry up a spell then gloss it.

Romulan midget cricket ship is proceeding into the final stages now!  I'm about to whip up my magic brew of warm water, vinegar, and a couple drops o' dish soap then it's time to apply these tiny transfers. I'm in danger of putting out a decent model with this one...  not sure about the rest.

Painted the green on the Spyplane and saw a couple spots needing to be sanded pop up so I'll do that pretty soon. Progress on this thing is sluggish...  I don't know who's going to kick whose donkey but I'm not giving up. I have a fair amount of anxiety about doing my paper masks correctly but I think I'm on the right track and am also pretty excited to see it coming together.. I just can't seem to get past stupid stuff like repairing mistakes, breaks, and stuff like buying things. 

Speaking of.... I found some clear stuff at Wally world!!  Going with the advice I saw I elected to get the satin instead of the flat. SWEET LIL BABY JESUS LET THIS BE THE LAST THING I BUY FOR THIS. I've got more money in this damn thing than some entire nations spend on their entire Air Force.    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 03:56:27 pm
%^*$$!^@$%^%*&  Heheh...  Working on the Romulan Ship:  Whatever moron QAd this stuff needs to be slapped in the mouth. A couple of these transfers that go on the fin are about 33% larger than they should be but it's not apparent until you try to put them on... so here I am taking scissors to transfers already wet and off the backing.   :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: 

Got it taken care of but that type of thing shouldn't happen especially with stuff that is supposedly NEW TOOL.  How are we to cram a decal that is close to 12mm wide onto a space about 8mm wide? Who measured this stuff?!   :unsure: :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 06:40:24 pm
I got the Romulan guy decaled!!   ;D

Some pretty maddening happenings along the way and I think I need to invest in the micro sol system but at the end of it all I'm pretty stoked. I need to gloss it to try to hide the edges but this turned out pretty neat. The finish is pretty nice and although I hand panted the goldish color on the nacelles, they don't look too bad.  :lol:

Maybe tomorrow I'll gloss it because I need to gloss up my F-84 as well so I can start the transfers for it. I need to paint the wheel wells and insides of the gear doors and also paint the canopy for it as well. I tried yesterday (canopy) but the paint wasn't working at all. My fine brush is a good brush and I like it but too large for this.. I bought some new brushes today that I can't wait to try! I just need to get the paint to cooperate, too. Most likely user error.  ;D

It seems like these days I do my hobby stuff in spurts...  a ton of stuff one day, nothing the next, repeat, but at least stuff is getting done. Lately I've been so busy trying to do fall cleaning that has now dragged into winter.. I keep having to MAKE myself stop and do fun stuff.  :rolleyes:  It's only going to get worse as I start this new contract on 2 January so I need to kick it into high gear if I want to get my OKGB project done.. . . .
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 07:07:40 pm
I need to hit it with gloss still to hide the edges on the transfers but here's a "sneak peak" of the Romulan Warbird.

Once the light of day returns I will spray the gloss and take the Glamour Shotz (TM).  The big seam on top... is supposed to be there according to historical crap.. the transfers on the trailing edges..are supposed to go across it.. according to blah blah.. I'm just following directions on this stuff.

(http://i.imgur.com/yZi9H86.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 27, 2016, 07:29:52 pm
Coming along well - looking good.

Yeah, mis-sized transfers are a pain, huh...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on December 27, 2016, 08:25:42 pm
Looks fast! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 08:53:44 pm
Coming along well - looking good.

Yeah, mis-sized transfers are a pain, huh...

I was hollering and whining like a champ.  ;D I managed, though. I'll slap this gloss on here and she'll shine like a diamond and hopefully the edges will fade.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 27, 2016, 08:54:09 pm
Looks fast! :thumbsup:
Warp speed, bruh!   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 28, 2016, 01:06:35 am
Coming along well - looking good.

Yeah, mis-sized transfers are a pain, huh...

I was hollering and whining like a champ.  ;D I managed, though. I'll slap this gloss on here and she'll shine like a diamond and hopefully the edges will fade.   :lol:

Ask me about re-sizing the door transfers for a 727 from 20X8mm to 10X4mm... FOUR individual pieces X2... I wasn't a Happy Camper.

... On second thought, don't ask... you don't wanta hear me doing my whining thing, and I'm over it now... mostly...   :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 28, 2016, 01:23:55 am

Ask me about re-sizing the door transfers for a 727 from 20X8mm to 10X4mm... FOUR individual pieces X2... I wasn't a Happy Camper.

... On second thought, don't ask... you don't wanta hear me doing my whining thing, and I'm over it now... mostly...   :banghead:

Just one reason why I put some time and effort into printing my own decals. Saved So much hassle like your 727 doors.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on December 28, 2016, 01:32:13 am
I doubt Round 2 are that concerned about the fit of the decals as most of these kits will be bought by Star Trek Collectors who would be horrified at the thought of actually building them.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 28, 2016, 01:36:46 am

Ask me about re-sizing the door transfers for a 727 from 20X8mm to 10X4mm... FOUR individual pieces X2... I wasn't a Happy Camper.

... On second thought, don't ask... you don't wanta hear me doing my whining thing, and I'm over it now... mostly...   :banghead:

Just one reason why I put some time and effort into printing my own decals. Saved So much hassle like your 727 doors.

Yeah, it's something that gets attractive now and then, but looking at the amount of work and time involved in getting the gear, setting it up and learning to use it, I can live with (or without) things as they stand, so I keep it in the 'too hard' basket.
Which is getting a bit overfull these days...

Pity, as it would be extremely useful sometimes, but ah well...

I doubt Round 2 are that concerned about the fit of the decals as most of these kits will be bought by Star Trek Collectors who would be horrified at the thought of actually building them.

Yeah, I can't understand that - ok, an original is collectable, but a new release? C'mon...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on December 28, 2016, 07:38:09 am
I never noticed before but the top of that Romulan ship looks very much like something from a 30's comic book! Paint it red and yellow with extra fins!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 28, 2016, 08:01:33 am
Those colors sound great with this thing...  :D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 28, 2016, 12:11:15 pm
I never noticed before but the top of that Romulan ship looks very much like something from a 30's comic book! Paint it red and yellow with extra fins!

Yeah! Flash Gordon that sucker up!
Pointed end caps on the nacelles, or spikes, more fins as Kerick said, Big Guns (tm) sticking out of the nose, whatever else you feel inspired to do!

Course, this means you'll have to get more sets to do these things with...  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2016, 11:48:46 am
Sounds brill to me. You people (WHADDA YOU MEAN YOU PEOPLE?!?!??)  keep giving me so many good ideas...  Firefighting Klingons and Racing Romulans and stuff.  The people on the Star Trek group on Facebook will crap their pants when I start making this stuff. 

I just need to get ahold of some cheap kits. For some reason, unlike aircraft, getting them on Ebay (or anywhere else) for anything less than 90% of retail just isn't a thing.  I can finds lots of like 8 1/72 for $30 but I'd be lucky to find even a single small Trek kit for that.


In other news, the Spyplane is still whoppin my azz....  I patched up some spots with my correction fluid, sanded the piss out of it... sprayed, sanded the piss out of it, sprayed, and there are still "lumps" there... hell, this stuff usually sands down pretty nice and these are on flat areas that should be simple!   Still, it's there.... I'll sand it down AGAIN and go back with paint again.  :o :lol:

The Romulan ship... sigh... I'm still a lousy modeler.  Not used to spraying clear stuff and because I couldn't see it accumulate, too much pooled up in an area by the wing root.. it lifted part of the decal up then created a big bubble. Whoops!! Lesson learned there.   ;D ;D  Oh well, if I don't just go for it how will I learn, right?!  No biggy... I took my hobby knife and cut out part of the transfer and got rid of the bubble then tried to fix the area.. it didn't "fix" but it's better than the bubbe.   It stills looks neat!! I sprayed clear on the bottom and am letting it dry.  Proper pictures in a day or two I guess..

The F-84 is progressing. I painted half of the wheel hubs and the insides of all the gear doors. I also painted half of the drop tanks.  I want to get them finished up and glued on to the airframe before I gloss it. Then I can start the transfers!  Yay!  I'm depending on them to save me because I cut quite a few corners.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on December 29, 2016, 01:31:51 pm
I can finds lots of like 8 1/72 for $30

I've given up trying to find bargin priced kits on ebay, I did find a few individual kits for under $2 but after postage I would have been better off getting a $14 Airfix kit from the local shops instead. The bulk lots are tempting but the best value lots are generally oversea's with huge postage costs, say the 8 for $30 for me with exchange rates would be $40ish and then add $60ish for postage makes the kit's about $12.50 each and no longer a bargin, so 7 or 8 Airfix kits from the local shops instead would be preferable as I don't have to wait for them or worry if they will arrive, no customs interference etc... :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2016, 02:42:24 pm
Yeah, seems like the stuff goes up in waves. For awhile there will be all kinds of stuff, great deals, great kits !!..... BUT...so many I can't possibly get them all OR I don't have any oney.... then other times there's next to NOTHING. 

I had a look yesterday and w/ U.S. listings only one was worth looking at (lots). Back over summer I couldn't keep track, though! I landed a bunch of good lots! Some really good with hidden gems and such like a group of I think 8 or nine that I got for $20 that came with 2 kits alone that go for $30-40 individually. Another good lot I got was of one that looked like a pile of garbage and for some reason the listing image was of a piece of sprue that was about 90% empty. I decided to look anyway and it turned out to be a bunch of cool stuff!! Got it for $17 and came with a glorious EF-111 and others.

Still, a lot of the time, they're "you take the good with the bad"  type deal and in order to get them at a good price ya might have to deal with doubles or RATTY boxes or "no decals no instructions."I think my best "value" score was winning three separate lots from the same seller (combined shipping, yay!) that wound up being 29 1/72 kits for $80 all said and done.  That's my speed right there!  Depending on how many, I try to keep my "lot" prices around $4 (grand total) a kit and if I want to purchase one individually I try not to spend more than $6 grand total.

Anyway, I hope things pick up again by mid Spring or so because the pickings right now are TURRIBLE and I have yet to find any online stores that hold a candle to the prices I'm after. I detest paying full retail. I make exceptions for doing things like supporting a certain brand or business but for the most part give me the "junkyard lots." 
Title: (C.R.A.P.) Shields Up! Romulan Warbird Approaching!
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2016, 02:48:47 pm
Calling this officially done. I had a last minute mess up due to my own inattention but it turned out pretty neat over all!

Good ol' Romulan Warbird in 1:2500 by AMT/Polar Lights. Done in historically accurate attire. 

(http://i.imgur.com/lIPyyUt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TXptX96.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hGxsgyg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qpTbfUK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XXhcEs7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oJjaj61.jpg)


As always, my picture taking is garbage but I'm not "feelin" doing any photo correction or waiting any longer for this infernal Oklahoma winter weather to cooperate.  I tried to put some light on the subject and put rocks and backdrops in but I needed a better light source that I didn't feel up to fetching from my shop.  ((would have had to find a cord, find plugs, etc etc etc it's always more involved than "get the light.") 

Anyway!! This lil model is cool and I'm happy with it!  The Klingon is next in this particular series but I'm thinking the F-84 will probably be the next completed.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on December 29, 2016, 05:56:53 pm
I have to try one of those and go all Buck Rodgers on it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2016, 07:21:34 pm
Yes sir!! Do it to it! I'd love to see that and GMTA because of the others (here) have had the same sentiments. Ya'll are on to something!!

Meanwhile have I missed it or there any updates to the plates project?  I've been wondering about that lately. . . .  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on December 29, 2016, 07:40:42 pm
Sadly no progress other than locating a flashing LED assembly from an unused Christmas decoration to light the bottom "hyperdrive" portion. I need to figure out how to add an LED to light the upper dome. Nothing difficult but putting in so many hours at work leaves little time for building.

I like the slice of geode you used in your pics.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2016, 07:41:02 pm
Man, I just had to show you guys this! Remember the conversation about the aztecing and what not? Well, I'd like to provide an update pic from Butch Bryan. His starship is going to be a medical ship "whif" IIRC, but anyway.. sticking to the topic....  here's the end result of his aztecing:

(http://i.imgur.com/MWe6bTy.jpg)

Considering the "whif" nature of the build, still, I'd say this is much closer to what would be seen on an actual model used for an actual film or in the least much more in line with what we've already seen in the Trek films. 

I thought it was pretty cool and was what you guys were talking about when it comes to verisimilitude. I still see the merit in some of the over done stuff but can't help but agree that this right here is more appealing.  It conjures up actual images and memories of the Trek films and TV series'.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on December 29, 2016, 07:44:37 pm
Well done! It adds visual interest without taking over the look of the model.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on December 29, 2016, 07:48:20 pm
Sadly no progress other than locating a flashing LED assembly from an unused Christmas decoration to light the bottom "hyperdrive" portion. I need to figure out how to add an LED to light the upper dome. Nothing difficult but putting in so many hours at work leaves little time for building.

I like the slice of geode you used in your pics.

I understand the time constraints! I'm just glad the project is still ongoing..  the whole idea is really neat.    :lol:

Thanks! I like geodes, too... blue is my color and I love minerals and stones and all that. I have a nifty rock collection, small, but I enjoy it so it's nice to see someone else appreciate some of it, too.

I figured it would be a good pedestal for this ship as there are no stands with these.  It goes pretty good with the cardboard space jive that is the insert to a Star Trek Micro Machines set.

"No stands" has also lead me to thoughts of creating a dio for these..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 02, 2017, 04:21:09 pm
Masked and put some paint on the Camo Spyplane stuff over in the OKGB....  I got tired of that thing whoopin my azz and I decided to fight back and won this round handily. It's drying up and will have the third and final bit of paint applied tomorrow afternoon, the good Lord willing..


For now, since all I'm doing is sittin here trying to conserve and regain energy and let my bones rest up from work I think I'll get back to the F-84! I actually did a small bit of work yesterday in the way of painting the other half of the wheel hubs and gluing the external fuel tanks to their pylons.

Proof that I am actually doing something to this thing...

(http://i.imgur.com/Wsc6Yjr.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 04, 2017, 02:08:37 pm
In an unexpected change of events I've started working on a 1/144 Junker Ju88 that I'm slapping together to use as a test bed. It has no glass, no propellers, no instructions, no decals, missing a strut, uhhh... probably some other things. I've been dragging together all sort of weird things like an old pink propeller from those styrofoam gliders, a marker top, and chunk of clear sprue, etc. I'm going to get it done pretty fast.

In other news, the HAWK is coming along nicely. I unmasked the camo and 95% of looking pretty good. One part didn't look quite right so I remasked it to add more color and also a few places where I used filler...well... the paint didn't adhere to the filler and came off with my masking tape so I'm using a reverse mask and going back to patch it up. Also, the bottom needs a bit more black where I glue the wing back on while the bottom was still masked.  I've already done all the masking so it should take less than 10 minutes to get the paint "fixed" then I can gloss.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 04, 2017, 05:05:24 pm
Changed my mind on the pink propeller. Now I'm giving it two opposite rotating single blade propellers onto larger engine (with larger engine cowling!)  I'm deleting the cockpit as it was and filling it and the glass nose in. I'll move the cockpit toward the rear.

I used part of a colored marker cap to fill in where the cockpit used to be and I used a spinner off a combo with props as the nose piece.. I just had to cup and chop and file it until it was the proper diameter. The reason I sacrificed it was one prop blade was missing.. this is why I went with single blade props.. I only have two to go around instead of the 6 I'd like.  ;D

I've nothing to use for a canopy but maybe I'll just do something like glue some toothpicks together and put light clear plastic behind it who knows.. I'm not trying to get TOO involved with this.

Picture in your mind if you will, this not being a medium sized bomber sized 1/144 but more like a 1/72 sized P-38. 
(http://i.imgur.com/uon0Ocz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 05, 2017, 05:45:19 pm
I just noticed I said "picture in your mind if you will" in the last post.   I was watching a Twilight Zone marathon the other day...  funny how the mind works!  That's not a phrase I'd normally say but I guess the sub conscience picked up on it. Are any of our thoughts truly our own??   Ok, enough philosophy.

Work proceeds on the U2 Spyplane that refuses to be tamed. I finally managed to get the paint where I can live with it now I just need to throw down a coat of gloss. It's on hold until my places to paint (spray) are acceptable. I've half a mind to go to go to the spare bedroom (used as storage) and do it there...  It's on the south side of the house and the wind is out of the North by a fair clip so I could open the window and spray in there. The more of this can of beer I drink the more appealing this sounds.  ;D

Anyway...  F-84!!!  I've been painting the canopy which has a fair amount of frame work. It's simple but there's a good bit of it. I'm just brushing/toothpicking it on then letting it dry then back with a different toothpick to clean up the lines. It's work great so far!  This is all that is holding me up, really. Once I get it painted I'll glue it on then I'll gloss coat it all and start transfers.

Also, there are some clear things that go on the front of the tip tanks..  lights or some crap I guess. I will glue them on at the same time but the rest of the fiddly stuff stays off until last.
The craftsmanship (mine own!! ) is less than stellar but I'm hoping the overall look, the scheme, the colors, and the subject matter make it a worthy airplane.   :laugh:  I imagine I'll be done with it within a week.


I haven't done anything with the 1/144 experiment today but thoughts have been rollin in my mind what to call it. It's a unique plane so "Ju-88" has to go. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 07, 2017, 07:05:56 am
This could be a really AWESOME day for kit building!!! I could very well finish up TWO planes on the same day!  The F/U-2 H.A.W.K. for the OKGB will certainly be done and the f-84 Thunderjet could very well be done, too! I put two coats of clear on it yesterday, finished painting the canopy and windscreen, got the wheels glued to the struts, and a couple other things I can't recall right now. I just need, now, to put transfers on it then let them set up then I can glue on the fiddly bits then it should be done, too!  For an older kit this Heller F-84 sure is pretty nice.. 

One thing... I learned that you can't spray clear coat on clear parts. AH WELL, it still looks pretty neat although it looks more like that frosted glass you see on shower doors and the like.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 07, 2017, 03:36:52 pm
Finished the Old Kit Group Build U2- Spyplane! Go have a look there if you like. 

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,42895.0.html

I'll add some pics and stuff to my "finished builds" thread too at some point. Hell, I still need to drop my Romulan ship pictures in there, too... but uhh... lazy bone? Yeah.  :rolleyes: ;D

Sad news to report on my lil F-84.  :-\   Now, not only have I butchered (yet another  ;D ) canopy, I've also caused some of the white paint to craze by being too heavy handed with the clear!!!  I'm still learning on my painting and more so on the clear because.. well, ya can't see it as well..   I'm getting better but still.. the thing crazed up and I wasn't wanting that to happen because I'm pressing on; I'm not trying to get any more involved in this than I already am. So, it won't be getting fixed.  It'll look fine despite the crazing ("it's replicating... the uhhh... Molossian paint was substandard that year and the painter forgot to wash the skin!! ")   .. and lesson learned.

With the big push to finish the Spyplane and the current "let down" on my F-84 I'm going to drop all this stuff for a day or few.. or week. I think I'll play some video games and just relax. I've been doing quite a bit of modeling lately and I don't want to burn out or anything.

Still... when I get done with my short hiatus I have not only the 1/2500 Klingon D7 but also the same scale Enterprise NCC 1701 to continue on and also my little Junkers 88 test bed build. I had a thought on that the other day going back to some crafts I did in 6th grade. I'm going to dry a crazy paint scheme and experiment with application methods. I want to try to attain a camo effect.  The technique involves spraying paint onto the surface of water contained in a bucket... then, you can either go for it or use a stick or some such to swirl the paint a bit to make patterns. Then, you simply dip the piece in and pull it out and presto.. in a matter of 2 seconds you have a "marbelized" paint job (or camo in this case as I want to have more solid, thicker patterns instead of more thin and "wispy" marbel like pattern). 

Pretty neat idea, right??  I was looking at Tophe's neat lil Twin Tigco and Bronger planes he just finished and the cool paint jobs... and someone mentioned them looking like marble a bit and I suddenly had this flashback to this 6th grade crafting project.  Anyway, I'm itching to try it. I'm hope with enough trial and error and I can come up with a simple way to apply a lightning fast camo job.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on January 08, 2017, 02:52:37 am
Good luck with the marbled paint effect.
I've tried it on car models without much success.
If you can pull it off I may have another go.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 08, 2017, 06:16:09 am
I'm thinking my biggest problem will be in achieving more solid shapes instead of the paint dispersing and "thinning" too quickly. I'm thinking I want the water to be as still as possible and I'll spray a nice bit of paint on one half and another on the other half (or in three segments) and make it pretty thick so they don't comingle so much.. then I'll slowly as can be swirl them together without causing too much wave action and maybe then I'll have more solid, larger shapes instead of the more "chaotic" marble looking stuff with thin veins and lots of splotches.  It all sounds good on paper, we'll see how it works in practice! 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 08, 2017, 09:39:26 am
Just saw this on the Greatest PLanes That Never were FB page..  I like this.  From The Simpsons. A pretty decently drawn 707 I'd say!

(http://i.imgur.com/tTSk9wm.jpg)

I wonder what font that is? 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 09, 2017, 11:53:46 am
More inspiration stuff...  This appears to be an old tin toy of a B-45 Tornado. That paint scheme is really cool. 

(http://i.imgur.com/OsTijQD.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 09, 2017, 06:43:31 pm
Couldn't stay away from it! 

I decided to just scratch build the entire cockpit, canopy, and all that, out of crap I have laying around. The little canopy piece there I cut out of some sort of packing material and the little plastic pieces there will be the part of the fuselage that connect from the rear of the canopy to the fuselage proper (I don't know what this little section is called, if anything).

Here I was just wanting to slap this together but the more I look at it the more I want to just turn this into some kind of hopped up big engined racer type plane or something..

I've also re-visited the one bladed prop idea and the props I have now are too large and I'm not sure I can "whittle" them down to the proper size. The stuff is too large to be in scale but too small to hold on to to do anything with... I need like ... a little vice or one of those helping hands clip contraptions. Even then, the pitch and "twist" will all be gone and will look no better than if I slapped a piece of flat trimmed plastic on there so I need to figure something else out.. 

(http://i.imgur.com/GYw6BLw.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 09, 2017, 07:39:05 pm
Problem solve.. I cut a couple of clear discs out of the same stuff I cut the canopy from.. I'll aim for a blurred prop look.

With those, I now have all the parts I need to make a complete airplane!!   :laugh: :laugh:

I'll have to make some spinners but that will be easy... I'll just find some spare sprue of the proper gauge and use a file to round the ends off. 

Next thoughts fall to the livery. Like I said, I'd like to do a racing airplane and I have a lot of "corporate sponsor" transfers from race cars and such but they might not be the right size. I suppose I can stop working on the prop discs for a little while and dig through the transfer stash to see what I have. If I can't find ones the right size I'm going to shift gears to just a plain ol' civil aircraft in some nice colors and such.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on January 10, 2017, 01:06:42 am
Got any drop tanks spare?  You can make spinners from them.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 10, 2017, 06:16:35 am
Got any drop tanks spare?  You can make spinners from them.

I do! What a great idea!  I didn't use the ones to my Vampire T.11.    I'll dig them out and see where I need to cut. They should work pretty well. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on January 10, 2017, 06:16:55 am
More inspiration stuff...  This appears to be an old tin toy of a B-45 Tornado. That paint scheme is really cool. 

(http://i.imgur.com/OsTijQD.jpg)

That's interesting. I see what you mean re the Tornado but the B 45 had straight wings, 4 engines and was not operated by the RCAF. Plus I've not seen one without wing tip tanks.

Therefore it appears to be a tinplate Wif  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 10, 2017, 06:22:52 am
Hey you're right!!  I just "discovered" the Tornado TWO days ago; I never knew it existed so I'm still trying to get familiar with it. To me, they look like overgrown F-84 Thunderjets. lol  (a lot of the same features and inovations on both, too, I learned in my short reading). 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on January 10, 2017, 06:26:28 am
Hey you're right!!  I just "discovered" the Tornado TWO days ago; I never knew it existed so I'm still trying to get familiar with it. To me, they look like overgrown F-84 Thunderjets. lol  (a lot of the same features and inovations on both, too, I learned in my short reading).

It's an interesting aircraft with an interesting history especially in its use by the RAF.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 10, 2017, 08:34:44 am
And the only 1/72 kit of a B-45 is made by Mach 2...................  :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 10, 2017, 09:13:52 am
Indeed, and costs a lot!   :o

I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for one in a lot or something, otherwise I won't be getting it any time soon.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 10, 2017, 10:01:53 am
Factor in the cost of buying a Falcon canopy set as well, as the Mach 2 'transparencies' aren't.............

Transparent, that is.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on January 10, 2017, 10:07:13 am
That Tornado toy is too cool ! What does it say on the nose ?

Your own whif is looking good Chronic ! Look forward to seeing where this goes and the drop tank spinner is a great idea !

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 10, 2017, 11:04:54 am
Thanks, dude! This is the most.. uhhh..  "dramatic" scratchery I've ever done?? For sure... Won't be much like a JU 88 when I'm finished!  Deleted the (glass) nose, deleted the cockpit, moved the cockpit, building some extra fuselage, very different engine cowling, etc.

Airplane says "North American." 

A shame about the canopy... is it that Mach 2 does substandard stuff?  Seems like they have a lot of neat subject matter, but I don't know much else about the history of them or the quality of the product.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on January 10, 2017, 07:03:45 pm
That's interesting. I see what you mean re the Tornado but the B 45 had straight wings, 4 engines and was not operated by the RCAF. Plus I've not seen one without wing tip tanks.

Therefore it appears to be a tinplate Wif  :thumbsup:

These don't have wing-tip tanks (USAF);

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/47th_Bombardment_Wing_-_B-45_tornadoes.jpg)

As far as I can tell tin-plate toys are always whifs.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on January 11, 2017, 06:46:00 am
Cheers Mr Wombat  :thumbsup:. I've obviously led a sheltered life  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 16, 2017, 11:02:15 am
Some do, some don't apparently.

(http://i.imgur.com/yTJROoa.jpg)


In other news.. having second thoughts on the Ju 88 plane.  When I decided to try to make it more "decent" the "quick build" stuff went out the window and now thoughts of trying to make it look good are intruding upon my mojo!!  I'll give it some more thought this afternoon.

Also, I broke the fixed gear off of my Yak 7v when I tried to Michael Jordan some trash into the waste bin. It instead went straight to my Yak! Weird thing is the plane bounced off the shelf and both gear just neat as can be layed there right beside each other. Almost like I planned it that way. Odd..  But anyway I want to glue them back on.

Also, nagging at the back of my mind is a Space Shuttle build I started 25 years ago and never completed. Now, the glue is all yellow and it looks like junk so I want to clean it up and do it right.

Also, I have an Enterprise NCC 1701 model I'd like to do something with. I built it with the D7 in '09 (the one foray into modeling in the 20 year break I had) and I need to finish them both, Actually..

Tying up loose strings type projects.

In more news, the Soviet GB is starting to get me pretty worked up so I'd like to get started on stuff for it. I've built all kinds of stuff in my years.... from cars, to trucks, airplanes, space ships, tall ships and even the U.S.S. Yorktown but one type of model kit I've NEVER built is a helo kit. Well, now I have one.. an AH-64 that I will build for the Soviet GB as a lend lease chopper. Also, I scored a 1/72 V-22 Osprey that I'd like to "give" to the Soviets as well... so...  these should be interesting all around for me. I want to start getting the stuff together and planning my transfers and stuff but I told myseld I'd get some other work done on these lingering projects before I allow myself to have "fun" with the Soviet stuff.

So, I'm going to at least: Make up my mind on the Ju 88 whif, glue the gear back on the Yak, gather up the space shuttle stuff and at least get it all in one box, then the same for both the Enterprise and Klingon D7. I'll consider myself ahead of the game if I can just get this stuff in a more ready, organized system. I think I'll feel less guilty indulging in the Soviet stuff if I can at least show some sort of love to my dear un finished projects.   :laugh: :laugh:

Also, a good clean up and re-organizing of my travesty of a build space.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 16, 2017, 02:41:12 pm
I forgot to mention my poor F-84 Thunderjet earlier.  :-\  I guess the mishaps were so traumatic I tried to erase the memory of it.  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/1BnrNPe.jpg)

Oh well. Nothing I can do about spraying the canopy with gloss clear and fogging it up. Hell, it don't look like a travesty or anything but would be nice if it were clear. Point is, though, I can live with it as artistic license. What I can NOT live with is the crazing of my white paint that occurred after I spray the clear on it. Once more I think I was too heavy handed with the clear when I sprayed. Still learning!  Any how, I entertained thoughts of leaving it but that's no good. I'll fix it. I'm worried about rubbing away the panel lines but I'll try to be patient and work in little bitty areas at a time. Once I get it smoothed out I'll have to mask again and we'll go for round two.  :mellow:

I also broke the nose off of it and glued it back just now. The little pointy bit attached to the intake diverter thing broke off, too. I might put something else on in its place or might not. What is that thing, anyway?

In other news, I put more glue around the seam on the top of the hull of the Klingon ship there. I think this second "coat" will be enough and when I sand it down next time should be a glorious smooth top.

Got the gear glued back on the Yak 7k. 

(http://i.imgur.com/wgHeUcG.jpg)


Got all my Space Shuttle stuff together... all the pieces, the stand, and transfers. Just need to find a box for them. See how dirty it is?! Before I do anything I'm going to plain ol' wash it. I think I will make this one the Challenger.

(http://i.imgur.com/YVz78fA.jpg)

Got the Klingon parts together, too. It's another D7 like the little green colored stuff above but in a much larger scale. I've mentioned this one and the Enterprise I built at the same time before. Aside from the U.S.S. Constitution (that I keep forgetting about that I built in.. like...early 2000s) these were the only two model I built in my twenty year break and I only built them to have something to do while I was ill and stuck in bed for weeks. Back before I even knew it was a "thing" I had a tendency for "whiffery" because look at the color scheme!

Anyway, big ol' palm and finger prints right on the top so I'll be addressing that and trying to figure out how to paint this thing without having to redo it ALL. I'll have to do something for transfers, too, as I used the STUPID, STUPID stickers they provided with these kits. I'm glad they do the stickers, though, because it's great for lil kids and helps them get into the hobby and allows them to decorate their builds. Just not for me....   (Did the same on the Enterprise build I keep talking about, too..It actually looks pretty neat, I'll get pictures of it later for you all to look at  :laugh: )  I'll be taking all that stuff off, for sure, then figure something out. I don't have any more Trek transfers because I put them all on airplanes.   ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/qPGBs6K.jpg)

ALSO, I've been doing "clean up" all afternoon and got a ton of my model stuff cleaned up, organized, arranged, etc etc etc while I did more of my "fall cleaning" at the same time.

I'm about ready for a cold-beer.. 

 :cheers:



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 16, 2017, 03:31:41 pm
Here's the Enterprise. The picture doesn't do it justice. For being half assedly put together and using the stickers it actually looks pretty decent sitting on the shelf. However.. it doesn't meet my standards of qualilty any more (never did, really, but I wasn't concerned with the hobby back then so I didn't quite care enough to do more) so I will be doing... SOMETHING with it... 

(http://i.imgur.com/xeCKhsI.jpg)

I think I'll snap the saucer section off and stick it in the same place I am putting the Klingon (red)  D7 which happens to actually be the original box for it. heh!  Such nice, well made boxes, too... Like the new airfix kits? Worth saving in some instances. I wish I had kept the D7 box as well but tossed it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 20, 2017, 01:18:42 pm
OK, I  made my mind up on the Ju88 after I primed it. It will slow me down too much and I don't think I can do it proper justice using random garbage I find laying around the house and still at the end of the day I need a test bed. SO, back to "test bed"with that one.

Also, in looking at my F-84; if I were to go in and try to fix the crazing, I'm going to erase the panel lines. (I need sanding sticks, sanding paper, a dremel tool, etc, and without these the stuff I have won't allow me to do it properly.. such is life being a broke bum such as myself)    I could probably get some of the larger areas but then I'd feel obligated to get the areas where the pattern of panel lines is much more tight and there's no way I can get in those areas to work without ruining the panels lines. SO... what we have is a paint error when they painted the plane.  All *I* did was replicate it!  ;D  Truth of the matter is one side looks quite alright so that's the side I'll have facing out when I put it on the shelf and when I take pics... so.. no worries. It'll be fine.

I just need to get this stuff knocked out so I can move on to my Trek stuff, repair works on old models, and new Soviet GB stuff.

Can't win 'em all... just going to have to cut my losses.   :o ;D  One of these days I'll be able to buy proper supplies and stuff like this won't be such a nightmare to fix. 

(I'm so wishy washy, aren't I?! I can't seem to make my mind up on anything.   ;D  )

I need to grab a beer and do some chores right now but I do any modeling today (and I want to! ) It'll be something on my tiny little Klingon ship and then I think I'd like to wash the Space Shuttle and start to get a plan together for it. There's a little window on the roof that is all out of whack so I'd like to try to get it put back in place where it needs to be (without knocking it down into the inside of the model where I can't retrieve it... LOL   )  Then I'll mask the windows and the rocket cone thingies on the back then I can prime it. I also need to see how much of the stuff on the inside I can pry out because painting it will be easier NOT in the cargo bay. I also need to dig up some reference pics and the instructions.

Ta for now, and as always, thanks for stopping by.   :lol:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 20, 2017, 03:13:49 pm
Have you considered stripping the paint off with some type of product? I've never done it myself but i know some folks use oven cleaning products to do it.
Mr. Muscle seems to do the job for some, look it up, might be of use.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 20, 2017, 03:46:29 pm
Have you considered stripping the paint off with some type of product? I've never done it myself but i know some folks use oven cleaning products to do it.
Mr. Muscle seems to do the job for some, look it up, might be of use.

 :cheers:
Hey that's a good idea!  I had not considered that, no.  Thanks!  Hell, I could potentially use it to fix the canopy, too.  That would be ideal...    my whole worry about this at this stage my panel lines and that would certainly help save those (unless it eats plastic, too...   ). 

I'll go ahead and shelve this thing while I look into that. There's hope yet for the Thunderjet!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 21, 2017, 12:17:12 am
Yeah, Oven Cleaner works really well - though you might not want to leave it soaking too long, as it can start to attack the plastic after a while - though not as badly as brake fluid, which I've also had good results from.

I've found that the 'non-caustic' variants of oven cleaner don't work nearly as well as the regular variety.

I don't recall how it affects clear plastic, but if you give it an experiment with an already ruined canopy there's nothing lost, right?


On another note, something I've seen used on some small scale (1/2500) Trek scratchbuilds is 1/48 targeting/sensor pods used as the Engine Nacelles - it actually works better than you'd think.

FWIW & Cheers
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on January 21, 2017, 07:57:37 am
Some degreaser detergents work well at removing paint without harming plastic. Simple green is one brand in the US.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 21, 2017, 11:53:18 am
Some killer tips up in here, thanks guys! I'll pick up some oven cleaner when I hit the store in a few days.

Been meaning to pick up some of the simple green, too. I heard it mixes with Future/Klear and makes for one hell of a glossy clear coat. More shiny than the polish alone.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 21, 2017, 12:17:05 pm
Brad, are we talking about acrylics or enamels? With acrylics, i believe you can do it with isopropyl alcohol, and that does nothing to the plastic. Going by what happened to me about a year ago, i'd just finished painting an F-16 with Tamiya acrylics and i wasn't patient enough to give it a second varnish coat before applying the AK panel liner, which is enamel based, so it stained the paint job. I wasn't aware that i needed a product like white spirit to get it off so i had the idea to try with a wet tissue, didn't work.
Then i tried with a bit of cotton with alcohol in it and as soon as it got in contact with the paint, it dissolved the paint pretty quickly and it all came off on the cotton.
This is the alcohol i use to clean my airbrush as it's available in the grocery store just near my house, cheap and doesn't even damage the o-rings.
Also, the white spirit itself, is a very dangerous to acrylic paint work that isn't well covered with a varnish, just a few day ago, while cleaning the same AK wash from the Harrier's weapons and pods, one of the parts that wasn't very well gloss coated, lost most of the paint to the cotton swab that was too drenched in white spirit... :banghead:
I've read a lot of stuff in the help and tips section on the Portuguese forum i'm in, and the same as here, lots of suggestions came up, just try the ones you're comfortable with or have the stuff to do it with and let us know how it's working.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 21, 2017, 01:16:40 pm
The alcohol tip is quite useful, actually.. I didn't know you could do that and will remember that one for sure! I thought once it was dry, that was it; gotta sand it. Good to know! I always knew water wouldn't work once it dried and paint thinner sure as hell doesn't either so thanks for that tip.

This said, unfortunately, we're dealing with multiple layers of enamel underneath a nice thick coat of clear varnish.   ;D  All have have a couple weeks or more to cure up, too. This stuff is "on there" now.

I'll just go with some oven cleaner and maybe try some brake fluid as well. It'll be a good chance to get my hands dirty with it and learn a new technique. I imagine it will come in handy down the road! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 21, 2017, 04:36:21 pm
Finally got some actual work done! I sanded the seams away on the Klingon D7. I also masked all the silver painted bits. Glued the neck and bridge section to the main hull. Primed it.

Woops! I didn't adequately sand with my finer grit sand paper and the scratches and such can be seen through the paint! I put a coat of regular grey paint on the top side per painting instructions (rather than just leaving the primer grey). I suspect with another coat or two the scratches will fill in.

Neato!  Next up I'm going to grab my space shuttle and clean it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 21, 2017, 07:01:01 pm
Ok, that's probably gonna take something more aggressive... :wacko: my only experience with enamels was with an Airfix Zero which was painted with the hairy stick, humbrol straight out of the tin and no paint thinner involved... i didn't even know which type of paint i was using... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 21, 2017, 07:29:22 pm
Ok, that's probably gonna take something more aggressive... :wacko: my only experience with enamels was with an Airfix Zero which was painted with the hairy stick, humbrol straight out of the tin and no paint thinner involved... i didn't even know which type of paint i was using... :rolleyes:
;D ;D ;D

LOL...    Man, I tell ya, back when I was a kid I thought "water based is kiddy stuff because enamel is more serious and blah blah blah, don't give me this kiddy crap. "  (kind of like, "hey don't give me the non flammable "safe" glue, give me the red stuff that will explode!!! I'm not 5 years old anymore!! "  )   ;D

Now I love me some water based paint and hate using enamels. I mean, spraying is one thing with my rattle cans, but I HATE brushing oil paints...    water based just seems so much better to me. It's more forgiving in the short run, clean up is a breeze, no goofy fumes and smells, etc. Also, it seems to just "act" better but that could be chalked up to any number of things including paint quality, my own ability, etc..  it justs seems like on the whole I can get acrylics to "cooperate" more easily.

And yeah proper thinning is a thing.   ;D  I've only recently figured that out myself. More so with enamels but the water stuff too...  A lot of the problems I used to have is because I never bothered to thin my paints.


In other news, I managed to stay true to my word and am currently tinkering with my Space Shuttle!!   :laugh:  I'm having fun with it.. I'm cleaning her up with Iso. and paper towels and one little piece from the payload came loose so I lovingly placed it inside a plastic zip bag...     I took a break to look here and update but I'm still working on it. Going to go in for second phase of cleaning in a few.

Also, I took a closer look at the payload and it sits inside the model proper inside a "bathtub" so I'm hoping I can pry it out somehow. Also, I think I can snap the wings back off after a run through the seams with my trusty hobby knife.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 21, 2017, 08:41:09 pm
Time Travelling Brad would have went and told himself to make well built, sturdy models.

Current Brad wishes that little turd had not been so thorough with the glue.  ;D

Any way..  I managed to get the bulk of the shuttle cleaned. The wings won't be coming off. This was a "snap" kit so I was sort of hoping "little me" went easy on the glue but such is not the case. The wings will be staying on. One of the cones on the back broke off naturally so I went and snapped all the rest off any way. This will save some tedious masking! I'll have to sand and file on things but I'd rather do that than mask.

Also, the payload and the bathtub it sits in will be remaining in place. This was also well glued by that turd Little Brad.  ;D ;D

No worries, though. I'm still feeling good about this one. I think I can fix the seams on the wing roots. One is actually pretty damn nice and clean, the other has a hell of a gap, though. Still, I can fill that in, mask the adjoining areas so that I don't erase the panel lines, and make it a go of it.

There are other areas to address, naturally, but I'll stop here and try to focus on little bits at a time.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) Altered Ju-88 Test Bed Done and Painted (for now. . . :D )
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 24, 2017, 02:51:04 pm
Finished up my test bed and even managed to do my first experimentation in the way of a simple two tone black and blue camo scheme in search of inspiration for an ASW camo to use on a Soviet sub hunter.

Any how... I finished off my prop blur things and stabbed them with sewing pins. I do this so I can put them in and out of the engines easily. I mean, really, I could not even bother as this thing was built to test paint jobs and painting techniques and various varnishes, etc, but, when I go to take a picture of it I'd like it to look somewhat normal so with these built this way, I can take them in and out easily to paint and then take pictures. Same sort of story with the cockpit and that stuff.. I'm not wanting to permanently attach it. I'll just use pva when I do pictures and when I get ready to try a new test I can snatch the cockpit and props back out without damaging anything.

(http://i.imgur.com/epQbkaX.jpg)

Finally found a use for the crappy kiddy stickers that come with some kits. Building an AH-64 for the Soviet GB and the kit came ONLY with stickers for decorations so I decided to use a few on this thing just for the hell of it.

(http://i.imgur.com/c6kxzCW.jpg)

The paint job... well... I just grabbed three brushes and went for it. Painted the entire thing in under 15 minutes and called it good.  Here it is....  I think it's sort of neat and the profile shot from the side makes it look really cool, IMO. That side shot is what initially wanted me to make a racer out of it. Them big engines and stuff... thing just looks fast.

(http://i.imgur.com/943vXEA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/l9b194Q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rD11bbK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Z0toFIr.jpg)

Not sure what I'll do next.... maybe try more stuff for the Soviet build but I was wanting to try that marbelized camo technique so I'll do that next.

More on the actual purpose of all this... I'm not sure how much I like the camo scheme. The plane I'm making into an ASW thing for the Soviet build is a V-22 Osprey so....  just try to imagine the blue and black on one. Thoughts??

I'm also considering just doing a simple blue scheme using the same blue I used here... but painting the entire thing that color. Seems apt since thing thing will be low over the ocean look for Reptillian submarines.. (oh, woops, did I divulge too much about my Soviet Group Build story plans?! ?!  )   ;D ;D ;D

In other news, quite a damn bit of sanding on the 1/2500 enterprise. I put another coat of paint on the Klingon ship but it looks terrible.. I'll have to sand some more and try again. Still nothing going on the rest of the projects.

Cheers! 



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 24, 2017, 03:51:42 pm
I agree with the racer thought, it does look fast. :thumbsup:
And i like the camo, i'd like to do something similar but i would leave the red out of it... i might have to steal that camo for my next Viper...   ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Tophe on January 24, 2017, 07:07:52 pm
i like the camo
I feel in the opposite direction: no matter the colors for me, but I love this invention of a new airplane shape :wub: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 24, 2017, 08:23:19 pm
Thank you, all.  :D  This little plane has already made a soft spot in my heart and I think it will be fun trying new paint schemes and finishes!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on January 24, 2017, 08:31:18 pm
Got really sleek lines :wub:. Use it as a working model and maybe develop the look further. Especially the camo.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on January 24, 2017, 09:53:14 pm
I like the Ju88 based model, looks sweet. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on January 24, 2017, 11:36:52 pm
Your scaleorama'd 88 looks great.  Definitely racerish.

Do the, ummmm not yet specified adversaries of the Russians have aircraft?
If not, then the plane only needs to be camouflaged against those looking up from below and you can paint the top whatever colour you want (as long as it doesnt fly upside-down).
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 25, 2017, 06:17:17 am
Thanks y'all!   

Yeah I plan on them having airplanes and every other bit of military equipment "we" have and have had. I don't know if I'll be building any, however? I don't think "Reptillian Air Force" would qualify unless I use a Soviet Russian airplane (or tank or boat, whatever) as the base.  But definitely need to have protections against aerial threats!

Supposedly the Nazis were poking around Antarctica for good reason; that's where the Reptillians have been hiding! (here's where everyones' BS alarm goes off  "oh but aren't they cold blooded and WAH, WAH. Well, remember brer rabbit and his briar patch....  )  Story this, story that, detail here, B.S. there and the Reptillians have their own Air Force and Navy, etc. This is also why the U.S. (and allies) have teamed up and are fast friends with the Soviets (and allies). Turns out the Reptillians are some ruthless people and a formidable threat, so much so, that along with fear of nuclear annihilation (more on this to come) pretty much the entire planet came together and got buddy buddy real quick in order to try to defend from the reptilians.

I have all sorts of thoughts for doing icy camo schemes with whites,light greys, blues and light blues, and then also green stuff for the reptillians... and what kind of marking and roundels and such would they have, etc etc? I also plan and doing stuff suitable for South American regions. One aircraft I have planned will be a Russian F4 Phantom painted in IAF camo colors and big red stars.   Really fun stuff... a bit sci fi but one of the nut job conspiracy theories going around is that Reptillians have been hiding under the Earth for eons.  Since my Soviet plans are to have them friends with everyone, I had to come up with SOMETHING for an adversary... so... Reptile People it is.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on January 26, 2017, 12:17:56 am
Have you thought about using a simple identifying mark on all of humanity's aircraft so they can be easilly identified whatever airforce they come from and whatever scheme they carry?
Like invasion stripes on D-Day.  That sort of thing.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 26, 2017, 06:14:02 am
Now there's a thought!  I had thoughts of making any possible Reptillian be strikingly different as far as paint schemes and marking, think alien like almost, but then I've also thought that they're probably not stupid and wouldn't want their equipment sticking out like a sore thumb over ice, sea, or even South American jungle so... in the end they might wind up looking very similar to USSR stuff.

I'll cross that bridge at some point. Truth is I'm so much busier now and as we close in on Spring time (even more busy) I may not have time to focus much on any of that and will just stick to merely creating my Soviet wares. 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 30, 2017, 03:50:58 pm
Got the little Klingon D-7 done and it turned out great!!  I'm really liking this one. I rattle can sprayed the top a dark grey, then mixed up a custom "Klingon Green" color to achieve the proper shade for that then brushed it on (acrylic). Smooth as a baby's bottom, I tell ya! I love these little paints I get from the LHS. I stay away from the crap on the actual model aisle and get the ones a few aisles down. 5-6X more paint and 2-4X cheaper.

I need to throw a gloss coat on I guess but I generally call these done at this stage because I could easily NOT put a gloss coat on and it would look fine. Still, it will help hide some of the lines on edges of transfers and a did the other one in this set glossy, so I may as well have them "match."

Sun is setting so no pics for now.

Got a good deal of work done on my Soviet Group build helo. I haven't spoken much about that but I will provide links and stuff in the near future.

I primed the Enterprise NCC 1701 and need to go back in for another round of filler but it won't be long before I start in on paiting. I'm going to hairy stick the whole thing with the light grey color it's supposed to be.

Not much else going on, got a big box of USAirfix kits in the mail today that I'll open up sometime between now and the weekend and speak on in the new stash thread. Got a bunch of bombers and stuff!!!  Also, after I got that one another auction sprung up with the same type of boxes and stuff and had more bombers in it so all together I think it's 10 new USAirfix kits all in the same type of boxes and like 7-8 are bombers.. some heavy, some medium.  Pretty cool!!! 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 30, 2017, 05:11:17 pm
I just want to stop and say that I'm talking with an old friend on Facebook and he's saying his son is pretty jazzed up about trying a model kit!! This is what I'm talking about! In an age of all the instant gratification stuff and electronics (which I dearly love, so don't get me wrong!) it's more rare that we see youngsters interested in stuff like this and other things like "playing outside." I'm pretty excited. I offered to mail them a kit from my stash all expenses paid.

 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 30, 2017, 05:45:26 pm
That's good stuff, i tried to get my best friend's son into it but he wasn't really interested in building them himself... i had to finish it for him... :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on January 30, 2017, 06:11:50 pm
Some snap tight kits are pretty good quality and easy to build. A successful first project will be more likely to bring him back for more.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 30, 2017, 07:07:34 pm
That's good stuff, i tried to get my best friend's son into it but he wasn't really interested in building them himself... i had to finish it for him... :banghead:

That's part of my worry in this type of situation. A little bit of guidance might be necessary. Sometimes they simply aren't into it.

I think it helps to foster a love of the subject. When I spoke to my buddy I even suggested he have his kid watch popular jet fighter movies like "Top Gun."

When I was a kid I already had an immense love of airplanes which lead to me building and caring about models. A lot of that was because I saw movies like "Top Gun" and "Iron Eagle." Sadly, there aren't anything of this type in current culture but then again we have Youtube which has thousands of really amazing videos that would inspire many, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 30, 2017, 07:10:51 pm
Some snap tight kits are pretty good quality and easy to build. A successful first project will be more likely to bring him back for more.

Man, that's some great advice! I'm even building a lil snap kit myself right now and I'm sure a kid would have fun making one like this..   

Thanks, if they take me up on my offer I'll find an easier kit for starts.. well dependin on what I have.  lol
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on January 31, 2017, 03:18:26 am
I first gave him an Airfix Snap-tite F-22 cause it was the plane he was always asking me about and that didn't work... then i got him a Revell 1/72 Me-262 normal kit, but i guess it was too much of a shock going from a snap-tite to that kit, which is not an easy one to build. :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 31, 2017, 06:44:13 am
Well, you tried!  That's more than a lot of people do.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on February 01, 2017, 03:02:17 am
My sisters' kids both got bought 1/24 Airfix Spitfires as a first kit.  I think they were both scared off as neither has built anything since.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on February 01, 2017, 04:27:35 am
I think one of the standard 1/72 Airfix kits, especially the older ones, like the Spitfire Mk.I/II are good starter kits. They have few parts, are simple to build, look like what they're meant to be & are still relatively cheap.

As long as no-one forces the issue of accurate colours & super-detail they're as user friendly as you can get.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 01, 2017, 05:55:16 am
I found a Revell 1/72 109-G10.  About as simple stuff as I have, really, that still has some amount of quality to it, isn't missing parts or instructions, and isn't something I'll miss. I thought about giving them a 1/48 jet or something but thanks to the advice here I remember that I need something simply and this is about all I have. It's a pretty simple kit and makes a neat looking fighter so I hope it'll fit the bill.

The father has expressed interest in doing a collaboration effort and the 1/72 C-5 Galaxy thought crept into my mind once again. Something we can work on in his garage (or in my back yard).  Lofty goals there but it's a thought.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 01, 2017, 12:39:52 pm
Actually finished, completely, with the 1/2500 Klingon D7. As always when I try to spray or set up pictures outside, the wind is blowing 8 quadrillion miles an hour so I'll TRY to get outside pics today. Barring that, I'll try in the kitchen again and see if I can remember some of the things I learned last time that I experimented with camera settings. This little ship turned out NEATO! 

Work progresses on the Soviet GB Apache. I butchered (what else is new?!  ;D ) the canopy glass but it's starting to come together on a whole.

Getting the NCC 1701 going now. I got the nacelles glued on. As always, one of the pylons broke off yesterday and then again earlier today.. got it repaired with CA.  Primed black. Now I can paint the little parts like deflector dish and the end caps to the nacelles and glue them on after I paint the ship itself. I'll brush on the grey color. I suppose I could start that any ol time but I want to take a closer look at my CA repair and see if anything needs filing down first. Might also go in for another coat of black. Not sure yet.

(http://i.imgur.com/HuGLHbK.jpg)
U.S.S. Blackerprise

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on February 01, 2017, 02:26:52 pm
Stealth Enterprise?!? :o :wacko: I like it!!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 01, 2017, 02:54:12 pm
Since the UFP was banned from using or creating cloaking technology, they had to do SOMETHING!   ;D




While I'm here.... I had to file down the nubs on the ends of the nacelles as the end pieces WOULD NOT go on them.  I also trimmed and sanded a couple things. Going to mix up some enamel paints to put on the deflector dish and area behind it. Also, will be painting those end cap pieces that I mentioned. Won't need to mix anything for that; straight silver.

Wind won't cooperate, but I set me up a neat lil diorama of sorts to take pictures of my Klingon ship. I'll do that within the hour or so and get pics posted.  :laugh:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) Finished With Lil Klingon
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 01, 2017, 05:18:42 pm
Got this done and the pictures actually turned out really well in my opinion! 


(http://i.imgur.com/YcgqiB9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aIqaYIA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yaLJWfI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NGFSzyO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/K9nPzzL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e0MRRaf.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7SxcdNQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Rg98DWX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YBqmedh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HzSDdi0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aBCs5CX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UGYrxcT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KrNXSAl.jpg)

Q'pla!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 pm
By the first pics i thought that was much bigger, very nice work, i like the colors! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 01, 2017, 05:42:57 pm
Thanks, dude!! This one was a breeze.. only minor issues and some fair elbow work getting rid of the seam on top of the hull. If ya look close enough it's apparent that I didn't get ALL of it, though.. but on the whole building this thing was so cool!

Easy to paint, too. No real borders, which would normally be a nightmare,  but because of the "angles" it made it really easy to not "go outside the lines."

The third and last of the set is going to be the most difficult. It's already proven to be so, in fact.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on February 02, 2017, 02:09:58 am
Thanks for the pic in your hand. I now know how small they are - very well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 02, 2017, 01:42:25 pm
Thanks! I used to have a coin for that,  but I spent it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on February 02, 2017, 02:48:53 pm
Nice. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 02, 2017, 06:02:08 pm
Much Obliged.  ::tips hat::   :D
Title: (C.R.A.P.) - Hughes H-1 in 1/72?
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 03, 2017, 10:37:41 am
Not sure it warrants an entire new thread so I'll ask here.. is there a Hughes H-1 racer in 1/72 that isn't vacuform? 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 03, 2017, 04:11:32 pm
Uhh. 

I was going to talk about work on my Apache but this is the wrong place.. Ahem..so anyway.. I guess I'll talk about something else then.  ;D ;D

I put down the first coat of light grey pain on the Enterprise NCC 1701. Now, I need to pain a couple of the recessed areas on the nacelles a darker grey and also paint the bussard collectors (the front tips of said nacelles) a red color. I've learned that it's much easier painting stuff like this when you do the lower areas first. It's easier to paint "raised" areas and keep the paint off the lower areas.  It's more difficult to paint a recessed area and NOT get paint on the surrounding areas.  This is all elementary, really, but I only really came to this conclusion within the last couple of months. But..anyway...  point being is I need to get these little areas painted before I can proceed with the second coat of grey (which will be thinned a bit and done with a wider brush than I did the first coat.. lets hope this works!)

(http://i.imgur.com/nXy9RVy.jpg)

I'll do a light sand job on her before I do the second coat, as well. While it turned out a lot better than I THOUGHT it would, the first coat is a bit "lumpy" and uneven. It's hard to tell in the picture, but, trust me, it's there. I think with the light sanding and using a bit thinner paint and better brush will have the second coat looking fantastic.

 :laugh:

Title: Re: (C.R.A.P.) - Hughes H-1 in 1/72?
Post by: Librarian on February 03, 2017, 10:31:04 pm
Not sure it warrants an entire new thread so I'll ask here.. is there a Hughes H-1 racer in 1/72 that isn't vacuform?

I remember Planet Models produced one in resin. Hailed by all as a superb kit. Short and long wings.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on February 04, 2017, 05:03:40 am
Planet have two boxings in 1/48 scale at around the £40 mark and yes they are great kits

Czech Master do one in 1/72 in resin which should be a fantastic kit but will be a little pricey.

A firm called XS Models do one, but I've no information other than this https://www.scalemates.com/kits/254088-xs-models-hughes-h-1-short-wing-racer (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/254088-xs-models-hughes-h-1-short-wing-racer)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 04, 2017, 08:50:52 am
Thanks, gentlemen! Now I know what to search for. 

The H-1 is such a beautiful aircraft in my opinion. I want to whif one. Militarize it maybe if that wouldn't ruin the beauty of it. Otherwise a simple US civil affair.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 04, 2017, 11:42:20 am
Trying to decide which F-4 kit to use for the soviet GB. I have two boxings that I THINK are from the same molds. I'd have to look at the plastic a bit closer.

My conundrum is this... I have a Revell kit, 1987 boxing, kit #4302. I found the corresponding page on Scalemates for it but they don't have the boxing I have and I can't even find it on google search! 

I know it's this one:
https://www.scalemates.com/search-solr.php?fkSECTION%5B%5D=All&q=McDonnell+Douglas+F-4+Phantom+II+revell+4302*

But what gives on not being able to find *MY* boxing?  The internet at large and Scalemates seem to think it doesn't exist. 

Here's my boxing:

(http://i.imgur.com/wmbAViS.jpg?1)
Revell (1987) F-4B Phantom II  kit no. 4302

EDIT:  Oh yeah, I'm not talking about the fact that it's just a box top taped on top of a candy box.    This particular Jolly Rogers phantom, the box with a pic of the actual built model (not that well built either!!! The transfers are silvering and they didn't bother to pain the canopy, etc..  lol  ) can't be found (by me).
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 04, 2017, 03:03:57 pm
Quick update on the Enterprise.

Got some of the lower elevation detail painted. She's looking more and more like our beloved starship every day!  :laugh:

(http://i.imgur.com/NKwx7Uk.jpg)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on February 05, 2017, 12:33:52 pm
Enterprise looks good.  :thumbsup:
I'm almost certain I built that boxing of the F-4 in the 80's as a kid, wouldn't have been painted if it was, the one on the box top would definitely have looked professional in comparison!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 05, 2017, 01:24:34 pm
Thanks!   

Did a lil painting on it earlier. I need to clean up some of the red and grey again but then I'll do the last coat of grey.


Right about the model on the box... better than all my kid stuff, too!  Really, it's not all that bad I was judging too harsh. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on February 05, 2017, 02:50:05 pm
Really, it's not all that bad I was judging too harsh. 

I don't think that's too harsh at all, they should have done a better standard of finish for the box, some novices (and others not) would copy the box art to finish their model for example so the canopy frames should have at least been painted to encourage such activity, they are a model company after all!

Edit: noticed the frames are painted in the smaller pics (from the box sides?) so could just be bad lighting or something if it's the same model...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 11, 2017, 03:37:37 pm
Looking at it in person, the canopy on the main pic is definitely un painted! 

I mean, it's a nice model and all that but what you said was what was behind my initial statement that I failed to mention..  for something chosen to be the box art......  it is lacking, for sure. Non painted canopy and silvering decals. Apparently they painted it with acyrlics or something that weren't too smooth.. etc...  even *I* know these things. 


IN OTHER NEWS...  for the second straight time, I've rec'd a model kit lot in the mail that came with a free bonus kit!!  What the hell? Is my luck finally turning around?  This time I won an 8 kit lot of cool planes for $40 total, after shipping and all...    6-7 of them models I don't have in my stash or never have built.. a couple others I DO have but with different liveries of planes I happen to like such as F-16 and an A-37.  But anyway, this person threw in a free BAE Hawk by Matchbox!!!!!  Neato, I say!! I've been wanting a Matchbox kit just to see what they're all about. I've heard varying reports.. things like exagerated detail, etc..  but I'm glad to look for myself and I don't have a BAE Hawk so what a nice surprise!


EDIT:
The other "free" kit I got from the prior lot was a Martin MB-2 in the Ringo boxing. What a neat kit that is, too!  ( thought I mentioned that here but I guess I mentioned in the new stash thread instead, so, hence the edit for completions sake).  I keep saying I'll stop by the "new kits in my stash" thread to document my stuff but I never seem to do it.. so.. may as well at least mention it here.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 15, 2017, 11:10:56 am
Finally getting around to testing my differing brands of varnish to see how they interact. 

Other things going on include coming to a conclusion on a Tu-4 build for the Soviet GB. I was thinking of doing a Cuban version but I'm not so sure any more. I had visions of the nice blue and green camo but I'm not so sure how it would look on such a big airplane. Next test I do on my little test bed plane after the varnish stuff will be to see if that camo looks alright or not. I'm also entertaining an overall tan color for one stationed in the desert. I think I'm determined to not have it be metal finish but I suppose that's an option as well but that's just boring IMO. 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 17, 2017, 01:29:20 am
I like the way the Klingon ship came out - keep on with our favourite "Big-E". :thumbsup:
IIRC the small original version is easier to brush paint than the -A, due to the lack of raised panel lines. :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 18, 2017, 05:28:12 pm
I like the way the Klingon ship came out - keep on with our favourite "Big-E". :thumbsup:
IIRC the small original version is easier to brush paint than the -A, due to the lack of raised panel lines. :banghead:

Why thank you!! 

From what I can gather, these are actually new molds?? (or two are and one is original.. I think, actually, the Romulan and the Klingon ships are new and this E is actually the old mold.. it showed in the way of flash, etc.)   

This Enterprise has raised detail in the form of the windows on the secondary hull and they are QUITE ridiculous... I've already painted it all and I know the transfers have those windows so they raised detail is redundant. The detail is absolutely 100% wrong by any stretch (way, WAAAAY too large and thick) . I should have sanded that stuff off but I completely blanked on it (and I still might.. I've shelved it for awhile to clear my mind; I was at the point where I was considering skipping doing certain things like cleaning up the glue cluster at the base of one of the pylons so I decided to give it a break so I can get my mojo back and do it properly). Otherwise, yeah it's not too bad! I guess I can thank Matt Jeffries for that.

I plan on getting as many 1/2500 ships as I can so I guess I'll be taking on the -A at some point. Can't wait to see what it entails.. . . .   ;D  I want a whole fleet. These are so small, yet so fun! I can store and display them without as much concern about space as the larger starship models.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 18, 2017, 05:48:51 pm
Yep, I agree about the space thing.
It's still annoying they split the combined sets AMT originally released them as, but it is what it is.

They're also still releasing new kits in 1/2500, which is nice - hence I think you're correct about the other 2 being new.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 18, 2017, 06:30:18 pm
Yep, I agree about the space thing.
It's still annoying they split the combined sets AMT originally released them as, but it is what it is.

They're also still releasing new kits in 1/2500, which is nice - hence I think you're correct about the other 2 being new.
Agreed on the splitting of kits and also how they price them is a bit sketchy. For instance, a single ship, the Enterprise C (Ambassador class) is just as expensive as a three ship set such as the one I'm currently working on.

Yes, very nice the they are making new kits! There has been one hell of a resurgence in releasing and re-releasing Trek kits and now the multitude of third party stuff!  :laugh:

I remember, now, reading up a build page or review on these and they said the Romulan and Klingon ships were new molds, but the Enterprise was the old one still. (I had to jog my memory).  That really makes me grin, though; the news of new molds and kits.  :lol:

This said, and I'm remembering another thing from that review or build page (or another) and can verify, is that some of the quality is a bit iffy. Slight variations in scale and shape. The Romulan Warbird for instance has a bit of a "squished" and "elongated" fuselage. Still looks pretty cool, though! 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 20, 2017, 05:26:59 pm
Test plane has reached a new iteration. I tested two different brands and finishes of varnish on it that I did not document. Let's just say a coat of gloss Rustoleum covered up by Krylon satin works fine.

Moving on....  next test is paint that I want to use for a Cuban Tu-4 painted like MiG-21s with the blue/green two tone camo. I went to the store today and bought a bunch of different shades of blue and green (to be safe) and also some other colors I needed/thought were neat:

(http://i.imgur.com/NeRMvC4.jpg)

They were on sale at Hobby Lobby so I got them all for $0.46 each. Stocked up a bit!

Anyway, the plane with the new attire, we'll start with a "before" of how I had it painted last time:

(http://i.imgur.com/943vXEA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5NYPKBb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bD6mmzu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yfFn7gI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/i1JVJuL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RP1TFiB.jpg)

I like the colors... I think I'm going to roll with these.  :thumbsup:  If not, perhaps a lighter color of green? Maybe I'll paint one wing with a bit lighter green to see what I get.


Pretty much ZERO action on anything else. No new kits, no new projects. It's all about the Cuban heavy bomber for the group build right now.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Tophe on February 20, 2017, 09:59:27 pm
Looks good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 21, 2017, 07:00:25 am
Thanks bud!! I'm about to do a little of my own asymmetry with this one with one wing painted a different shade of green.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Tophe on February 21, 2017, 07:15:07 am
Thanks! Asymmetry is more than good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 24, 2017, 01:15:21 pm
WELL THEN, hey hey hey! Asymmetry on the way! 

The once again nation-less test bed has an identity crisis:

(http://i.imgur.com/QowEOHy.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/d4YXD5P.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5yrPicY.jpg)

 ;D

While we're on the subject, I had a thought last night of creating a nutty camo using a nice matte tan spray paint then using individual brush strokes from water colors to make a sort of "grassland" looking mutli colored camo. Add that to the marble effect stuff that I want to try..   Mister Test bed here won't be these colors forever! 

On other news, I think I will hold my own "Clear the Bench" group build uhh...solo build if no one else will join me....    ;D   to get a couple of items finished and move on. With this bomber and now heading into spring I'm going to have my hands full. Spring? Yeah because that's when the grass starts growing again and I mow lawns for a living so...         Yeah. I decided to take the mistakes and all on my USS Enterprise NCC 1701 and also my Republic of Molossia F-84G and just finish them up. I don't want to keep fixing mistakes any longer and they're just gathering dust right now so the sensible thing is to just move on and get them done.  There will be plenty more builds and kits in the future to dote on. It's time to tie up loose strings.

With that in mind, the Enterprise just needs a coat of gloss then I can decal it. The F-84 just needs a simple wash with water and dish soap to remove aforementioned dust then I can decal it, as well, then glue on the landing gear and doors and it will be done.

Also came to a conclusion that all but just a small hand full of my 1/48 kits have to go. I would like to trade them for 1/72 kits (at 2:1 or better ratio perhaps?   Just depends I guess on what the individual kits are.. )   That or I need to sell them or something... No room to store the kits and no room to store the finished products, either.  I'll probably get a list together and post them here to see if I could get some tradin' goin on. I've never shipped over seas before but I guess I'm open to doing so but prefer US. Not looking to get rich or even make money at all.. I just want kits that aren't so big.  ;D

Thanks for stopping by.   
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Tophe on February 24, 2017, 08:46:46 pm
WELL THEN, hey hey hey! Asymmetry on the way! 
Good! :wub:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) --- Short Order Shorts, RAF Tucano
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 25, 2017, 08:35:22 am
Interesting new development!  I'm a member of a Facebook group, "Facebook Scale Modellers" and one of the founders passed away last year I think it was, so they are having a group build in his honor (Rod Buchanan, perhaps rings a bell? Former RAF, etc) and by golly I want to participate. The GB will run for one month with a suggested emphasis on RAF.  Well, I want to do something nice but not too involved (I am obviously deep into the Soviet GB here and with work etc, time is at a premium) then it hit me! Tucano!  RAF, lovely little plane, should be simple and fast... it's a simple paint scheme, etc. 

(http://i.imgur.com/f8nuudU.jpg)

SO, I'd like to get started on this today and see just how far along I can get just today. I whipped out the last F-4 in 4 days with a complicated camo scheme and tons of ordinance so I'll see if I can get this done in TWO days. (laughing laughing laughing here..... I got the other done in 4 days because I was HIGHLY motivated and had a ton of free time that week... might not be the case THIS time , but hey, shoot for the stars, right?!!? )   ;D ;D ;D

Still will be working on the Tu-4 Bomber today, too, I think. I'm pretty caught up on chores and work stuff so I can afford to spend some time sitting on my donkey making models.  :laugh: :laugh:

EDIT:  Actually, this looks like a pain in the butt to paint!  What did I get myself into?!!   ;D   The props, the spinner, the area around the wing roots... I have no idea how to do that area.... elliptical shape cut out of the red that has to be white...  yeeesh... I'll figure something out. Any tips would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 25, 2017, 11:39:34 am
The wings are glued together. (the halves, upper and lower, to themselves)

Pilots are mostly painted, I need to do their visors... either black or silver.  Just trying to figure out what colors I can use on the helmets for a mid to late 80's pilot in training flying a Tucano in the RAF.  (go figure, I'm doing historically acurate and already things are on hold!!   :banghead:  )  What I *want* to do is paint one yellow and one blue to add a splash of color to the whole thing. Mainly I'm finding a lot of green helmets, however.

Added a bunch of nose weight.. I'll fill in the gaps with PVA for that much more weight and also when I glue the two pieces together I might be able to add a bit more lead and PVA again.

(http://i.imgur.com/S5UUe0c.jpg)

Wheels are painted.  (well, maybe....  the rims I'm trying to leave the original styrene color but I need to get ahold of some better pics, I think the rims may need to be white, along with the gear itself... )

Seats are painted.

I think next I'll glue the cowling pieces there (or whatever...  where the engine is at... engine compartment? you know me and the names for some of this stuff.. . . .  ;D  )

I'm trying to get a lot of the gluing done so it can dry up and I can file and sand. This blue style of Testors takes 24 hours + to properly dry up. I've worked with it still "tacky" in a pinch but it's never fun and fouls the files and sand paper. Beyond that, trimming up more parts and then maybe I'll prime some of the stuff like the tree with all the gear doors and the one with the little widgets like antennas and exhaust pipes. Also the tailplanes are one piece and I can prime them.

Also, I figured a way around the painting problem at the wing roots... I'm just going to have the red in that area and will transition to white right where the wing attaches. Super easy and I looked at another person's model that did this and it looks perfectly fine. Not exactly accurate but I guarantee you if I try to make it accurate, it will not look right. I suppose I could try to cut the shape out of masking tape but it looks like a lot of trial and error to do so and I'm not sure my tape would work around the curves and such. 



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 25, 2017, 04:30:53 pm
Blazing on this one, for now. I have all the small stuff primed and some even has final paint. Pilots are done and glued to the seats and the base.. I could go ahead and seal up the fuse halves but I'm stopping work for now after I paint the tail planes red. Speaking of the halves, I trimmed and have the burrs filed away. Prop and spinner are painted black and now on to the goofy lopsided paint scheme which I've noticed quite a few modelers (out on the net during my research) have gotten wrong despite the plethora of pictures available!  (do I sound JMN enough yet??   ;D  ) Case in point:

(http://i.imgur.com/KJVsaaX.jpg)

See how the two sets of blades are different from the others? I think it's damn cool and really want to get this part right. I think it's a signature thing for this plane and it would be a shame not to do it justice. It makes a cool looking effect whilst spinning, too, check it out:

(http://i.imgur.com/sPSFnYR.jpg)

Next up I'm about to paint the tail planes red and that will be the last thing I do today. I'm forgetting some other things...  I'm sure of it. I've made headway on my research, which is good.. uhh.........  let's see here...........  uhh......   Oh yeah, got the engine housing piece glued together and it's nice and heavy. Should do the job. Re-bagged the clear pieces and transfers into their own seperate bag for safe keeping. Glued the wing tip things that house nav lights on the wing tips. Addressed plenty of flash...   etc.

I got a lot done is what I'm saying! I like getting a good head start like this. Next time I think about doing more work it will be pleasant to think, "hey, at least it's started!" Probably will be a few days before I do more.


IN OTHER NEWS. Once AGAIN I'm changing my mind, but only half way this time. I forgot about the dumb raised windows on the side of my 1/2500 Enterprise. I can't just up and say it's done even with the glue cluster and paint globs, because I can't put the transfers on with that travesty on the side. Good news is, the anxiety about it is probably much worse than the actual task. I imagine it won't take more than 10 minutes to sand that garbage away and while I'm there get the glue cluster and the overly thick paint.

That's all for now I guess.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on February 26, 2017, 04:26:47 am
I've not seen this kit in the flesh but depending on the fit of the wings and tailplanes you might be able to paint them and the fuselage before fitting them together ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 26, 2017, 06:38:07 am
That's the plan for now! I hope like hell the fitment is good at the wing roots. I have a nice build page http://modelingmadness.com/review/mod/fordhamtucano.htm here that I'm referencing and he states,

"All joins needed a little cleaning up due to the fact that all the moldings were “soft” as in the edges were rounded rather than nice and sharp , even careful sanding ‘al la vacuform’ didn’t fix the problem completely and a small amount of filler was used on the fuselage to wing join and tail-planes."

I have the advantage of having this knowledge before hand, which is nice, so what I'll do is file, sand, and dry fit (repeat) to get those joins as best as possible before I paint... then hope for the best when I glue. It'll be a disaster if I have to fill in seams AFTER I paint!  :o   If I can't get those areas into an acceptable state I'll have to re-visit paint masking options or just get totally crazy and attempt the areas free hand.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 26, 2017, 12:19:47 pm
Prop and spinner painted, all by hand with two different small brushes, no masking.   ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/C2CMnb9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hhRKTij.jpg)

Practice and good brushes help!  Maybe I should strike while the iron is hot and do the canopy now? I told myself I'd only do the prop and a couple other small paint jobs but who knows.   :angel:   ;D

Also, glued the fuse halves together. 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 26, 2017, 12:35:32 pm
When you look at those black/white Tucano props going it's enough to give you a headache at certain revs. The blades seem to phase in and out with other. It certainly works to get them noticed!  :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 26, 2017, 01:01:10 pm
When you look at those black/white Tucano props going it's enough to give you a headache at certain revs. The blades seem to phase in and out with other. It certainly works to get them noticed!  :o
You'd have to be loose in the head to walk into them things!   

Ever fly one of these Toucans?  Such neat little airplanes. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 27, 2017, 06:11:27 pm
I found a twenty dollar bill on the ground today so decided that "easy come easy go" and bought a bottle of vodka, a cheap meal, and some modeling stuff!

Not pictured is the pack of sandpaper. Used to be they sold a pack of one variety of grit, now the pack has 3 different styles? Works for me. It's shitty but it actually has its uses! I'm glad to have it and at $1 can't go wrong. Other stuff was gel and non gel CA... I'm not out of it, but one can't have too much. At a dollar a piece why not. Also a $1 hack saw!! Yes! I was wanting something like this..   :laugh:

Other stuff are the roundels and fin flash and stuff for Cuban air force. I'll repeat myself from what I said in my Soviet GB Tu-4 Bull thread:

OK, got the transfers in today in the mail. Just opened them up. Under light I can see all kinds of veins and spider webbing across the surface. Doesn't look the same as old dried transfers that explode in water, but still troubling. I'll cut one from an area with a lot of the veining and try it on my test plane. I hope these are viable.

(http://i.imgur.com/6Ce8ffO.jpg)

I don't have much experience with "made" or "printed" transfers. Another thing of note is the roundels themselves (the white stars in the middle of.. ) have a pixelated look.. because they are. I'm not too bothered by it personally, but the quality could be better. That said, the other sheet with the fin flash and stuff looks much more crisp with the stars. If they stay on the model and don't fall apart I'm happy!   


Let's hope these work out because I spent $8 on 'em and in my world that's actually a fair sum of money.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 27, 2017, 11:42:24 pm
If you have some clearcoat, or some of the Micro Decal Film, brush some of that over the markings - it should stop them breaking up when you come to use them.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 28, 2017, 06:48:57 am
If you have some clearcoat, or some of the Micro Decal Film, brush some of that over the markings - it should stop them breaking up when you come to use them.

Will do! I have some clear coat I that I can use.   :lol: :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on February 28, 2017, 06:50:36 am
Other stuff was gel and non gel CA... I'm not out of it, but one can't have too much. At a dollar a piece why not.

To be honest I find the £1 Store super glue packs - 4 for a £1 - as good as the more expensive propriety brands when it comes to thin super glues. For medium, thick and  gel I still use the on-line place I found however.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on February 28, 2017, 07:00:31 am
Other stuff was gel and non gel CA... I'm not out of it, but one can't have too much. At a dollar a piece why not.

To be honest I find the £1 Store super glue packs - 4 for a £1 - as good as the more expensive propriety brands when it comes to thin super glues. For medium, thick and  gel I still use the on-line place I found however.


I saw a pack of them like that at the grocery store yestersday and almost bought them but didn't know what the price was. Had either 4 or 6 tubes in 'em. Probably were just a dollar but I don't buy things that don't have a price on it. If you have to force me to ask you what the price is I'd rather just leave it on the shelf. Reminds me of high pressure sales where they don't list a price so you have to call or talk to a sales person and next thing you know you're in an awkward, upsetting situation with some clown trying to get you to pay more than you should for something.  It's the principal of the matter.   ;D   That said, these were up at the register, I bet the aisle that contains that type of stuff probably has more of it and has a price listed. 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 28, 2017, 04:28:54 pm
Other stuff was gel and non gel CA... I'm not out of it, but one can't have too much. At a dollar a piece why not.

To be honest I find the £1 Store super glue packs - 4 for a £1 - as good as the more expensive propriety brands when it comes to thin super glues. For medium, thick and  gel I still use the on-line place I found however.


I saw a pack of them like that at the grocery store yestersday and almost bought them but didn't know what the price was. Had either 4 or 6 tubes in 'em. Probably were just a dollar but I don't buy things that don't have a price on it. If you have to force me to ask you what the price is I'd rather just leave it on the shelf. Reminds me of high pressure sales where they don't list a price so you have to call or talk to a sales person and next thing you know you're in an awkward, upsetting situation with some clown trying to get you to pay more than you should for something.  It's the principal of the matter.   ;D   That said, these were up at the register, I bet the aisle that contains that type of stuff probably has more of it and has a price listed.

Yeah, we have the same sort of thing here. You often find one or more tubes are set solid, but at that price even the few that are still ok are cheap enough.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 04, 2017, 08:43:49 am
I've recently began dipping my toes into the pond that is buying things directly from China. I bought a flush side cutter to use as a sprue cutter for a mere $1.50 shipping and all and if it makes it here I'm going to start making other small purchases until I get comfortable with it. I imagine I could buy like 500 tubes for $3 or some crap of CA(probably not, but you get the point, things are drastically cheaper straight from China!) and I've been looking at other stuff. Of course the quality isn't going to be top notch but depending on what it is and what it's used for I can pick up a great many modeling supplies and tools for DIRT cheap if I don't mind the wait and if it doesn't get outright lost.

I've ordered things from the "far east" before and never had any problems aside from two TINY packages that never made it.   1 penny deals.. little tiny clips or some such. I was just having fun finding stuff for one cent, which you certainly can!! It's amazing this day and age you can buy something for one penny and have it shipped across the planet for free. But still...  it was only 5-6 things (One being a big tube of widow tint from... Korea I think it was???) Still weary though but I probably have nothing to worry about.

BUT ANYWAY.. Speaking of shipping and the like, I just a got a brand new Playstation 4 in the mail. I half assedly opened it up and made sure there was no obvious damage or anything then just set it back down. WHY?! What in the blazes? Because I want to work on models instead.  LOL    ;D ;D

I'm about to make a nice hot cup of coffee and get back to working on the Tucano. I need to so some filing and sanding on the fuselage then I can take them outside and prime (tan, matte finish 2x "camo" by Rustoleum). If I let them dry a few hours I can probably start painting my acrylics on.

I primed the tailplanes in black and that was a mistake. I'm trying new red paint and MY GOD it may as well be water.  I might not have it thinned enough (leaves "hills and valleys" of lighter and darker spots; it sets down flat enough but the light and dark variations are unacceptable).  I put 5 friggin coats on, switching the strokes at 90 degrees and there's STILL black showing through (although not much). So, two things... I bought another slightly different shade of red to try, and I'm going to prime in TAN and not black.  Should be better for the white, too, right? I'm not going to use my white rattle can this time, I want to brush the entire thing so the white paint will need to work well and I think it will be better atop TAN than BLACK.

Also, I'd like to get some more work done on the Tu-4 Bull bomber. I got the guns all built a couple days ago and have been studying the instructions. Other than that, nothing, as I am at an impasse. I need to decide what colors to paint the bomb bay. I'm thinking just a super light grey or even white just so it'll be brighter in the enclosed space, and of course the bombs will be green.  I think I'll want to paint the gear doors green as well, same color as the floor in the interior. I need to visit some photos and do a touch of research before I get all this underway but I'd like to get it rolling today. If I can just settle on what colors to use, I won't even be disappointed if no actual work gets done. I just need to get over this deadlock.

Friendly reminder:
(http://i.imgur.com/PfvUbIe.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 13, 2017, 05:21:27 pm
Wow, been a number of days since I stopped by.  So busy lately.... I won't bore you with the details.

ANYWAY, I got a tiny amount of actual work today in that I painted two bombs that I missed painting for the Tu-4 for the GB. I also did a small amount of sanding on the RAF Tucano where I applied some putty. I also organized my space a little bit and... that's about it.

BUT, I got my new kit in the mail today!!  OOooh yeah, I love this weird little thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/B8dKZns.jpg)

Pics of the plastic will be inbound.

I know it was mentioned in the current "stash has grown" thread that this has been talked about here before but I'm not sure how much has been actually shown or done with the kit itself so I'm hoping people may be interested in having a look.  I suppose I could have a go at the search feature here and see what has already been said, and I plan on it, it's just that, hell, since I bought the damn thing I may as well give it a whole new spin with my own take and perhaps we can get a whole new conversation going?  What fun!





Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on March 13, 2017, 08:32:37 pm
I found a image of that kit a while back (tried looking but couldn't find my post) and wondered what the hell was the idea of the little wheel, I think it was to judge height while attacking ground targets or something... Weird but interesting little beast. :thumbsup: :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 14, 2017, 02:09:39 am
Here's one on Britmodeller.
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234969250-172-moskalyev-cam-23-by-mikr-mir/
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on March 14, 2017, 07:13:07 am
What a crazy idea !

The cheap glue sounds good. Pay a fortune for CA glue and the stuff dries up after you open it.....

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on March 14, 2017, 07:17:46 am
What a crazy idea !

The cheap glue sounds good. Pay a fortune for CA glue and the stuff dries up after you open it.....

I was told CA stay's useable longer if stored in the fridge after opening, I have yet to try it...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 14, 2017, 08:21:04 am
Never had a problem with my CA drying up, well, that is, after I developed a stringent practice using it! I have damn near OCD tendencies when it comes to it... I neaver leave the cap off for more than seconds. I mean.... I don't even apply the glue or move the parts together first.. the split second after I get done either grabbing some w/ a toothpick or letting it drop out (gel versus thin) the cap goes on.  The problem Ive had is the applicator bit getting clogged with dried up glue. Usually by the end of a run with the gel I can no longer use it and have to unscrew it along with the cap to get down to the opening in the actual metal then I get it out with a toothpick. SO FAR.... knock on wood, since I've addopted this approach of "crap or get off the pot" I've not had any go teets up. (now watch that I said this every tube on the property will turn to concrete) 

Back to the "tankette" ,  I found some info!  A friend found it and gave it to me on Facebook, which in turn came from a message board (link at the end, I haven't gotten that far yet, but there appears to be a discussion that took place after the OP so that may be worth a look):

(http://i.imgur.com/sKn2YXp.jpg)

It turns out that during the Great Patriotic War did other things besides design airborne assault gliders. The Novosibirks branch of TsAGI has preserved a project of an original flying tankette/CAS plane designated LT with an M11 motor (initially designated SAM-23, but later this name passed on to a glider). Work on the vehicle on factory #499 was overseen by designer Nekrasov. By the end of May 1942 the design was finished and passed on to TzAGI for conclusions on September 14th. It’s not clear what caused the three-month delay, but the consultative note on the project uses the words “testing of the vehicle’s movement on the ground...”, suggesting that a prototype has been built duiring this time.

The plane itself consisted of a single-sea, high-wing-mount aircraft, using a twin-rudder system as seen in the SAM13. The fuselage was a truss-design covered with duraliminium. The wing has an R-II-S profile of a single-spar system, using sheetwood and cloth covering, with wingslats and slit-type flaps. The landing wheels were fixed, using 470x210mm balloon-type wheels. The motor was rear-mounted, using a pusher-prop.


The pilot’s cabin was protected by all sides with 3mm armor plating (4-5mm out front) and had an armored set, like the IL-2. The front of the cockpit shell was equipped with armor-glass. The pilot got into the cabin through the an automobile-type door on the left.

For an aircraft weightng just over a ton, the armament was very powerful: Two ShVAK guns with 200 shells each (500 when overloaded), two ShKAS guns with 1500 (2000) rounds each, four (six) RS-82 rockets or 400 kilograms bombs (removing the RS and overlodaing the plane). Calculation tated that usig a more powerful engine (e.g. an M34) would allow improving the armor and armament, and increasing the combat load to up to 1500 kg.

The most amazing thing about this aircraft was the method of its use. It was to fire on the enemy from a strafing run at an altitude of about 4-5 meters! This was to be accomplished using a trailing vomer that would touch the earth and trace bumps and holes in the ground. The momentums and angular speeds created by the vomer hitting the ground was expected to be within the pilot’s limits of physical capability, and could be parried by him in a timely manner. It was believed that at this altitude, and a speed of running/flight of 150-180 kph, the plane would be difficult to hit. The flying tankette could bounce or fly over obstacles, and - having a flight ceiling of 1210 meters - also attack ground targets like an ordinary plane. The small size of the aircraft, the designers argued, would allow SAM-23 to start from ordinary roads, or taxi along them as needed, approaching the locations of sudden attack with stealth.


(http://i.imgur.com/obAF3up.jpg)

Moskalev considered the main targets of his CAS aircraft to be enemy personnel, vehicles and fortifications on the opponent’s front line. The tankette’s tail/vomer was to be strengthened with a steel pipe and equipped with a shock-absorber, and it was, according to the designer, to have a dual-function of destroying light fortifications and wire obstacles.

The project was denied TsAGI approval due to light armor and insufficient thrust. The main drawbacks noted included the necessity for the pilot to constantly parry the diving momentum created as the vomer moved along obstacles, and the threat of nosediving the aircraft as the vomer demolished fortifications and wire obstacles.

Length: 7.2 meters
Height (parked): 2 meters
Height (vomer deployed): 5.6 meters
Wingspan 5.57 meters
Wing area 7.75 sq. m.
Wing instalaltion angel 4°30′
Wing V-angle 8 degrees
Engine installation angle +2 degrees
Horizontal tail installation angle -6 degrees

Parking angle 14 degrees
Vertical tail area 0.75 sq. meters
Design eight: 534 kilograms
Payload weight (overloaded) 494 (594) kilograms
Takeoff weight (overloaded) 1028 (1128) kilograms
Average Aerodynamic Chord: 1.35 square meters
Average Aerodynamic Chord of the Vertical tail: 0.555 square meters
Max speed: 188 kph
Flight ceiling: 1210 meters
Ascent to ceiling: 36 minutes
Flight time: 2 hours


http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=11851&view=getnewpost

Like I told her... I wouldn't want to be the guy that had to fly this nutty contraption.   :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 14, 2017, 08:24:04 am
Here's one on Britmodeller.
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234969250-172-moskalyev-cam-23-by-mikr-mir/


Oh I love it!!! This is going to be fun... I usually save up reading material to look at while I have lunch and today is going to be glorious. Not only that, but I'm having lasagna so it's going to be a good lunch all around. Thanks, dude!!

In addition to that, someone last night also provided me with this... a Scott Aiken build and write up of similar nature I do believe...  once again, I haven't really gotten to the meat of the content but will dive in when I have lunch.

http://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/ussr/sam23.htm
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on March 14, 2017, 08:45:45 am
That's fascinating, especially this bit. I assume they thought the opposition would be so astonished they wouldn't be able to fire back ?


The most amazing thing about this aircraft was the method of its use. It was to fire on the enemy from a strafing run at an altitude of about 4-5 meters! This was to be accomplished using a trailing vomer that would touch the earth and trace bumps and holes in the ground. The momentums and angular speeds created by the vomer hitting the ground was expected to be within the pilot’s limits of physical capability, and could be parried by him in a timely manner. It was believed that at this altitude, and a speed of running/flight of 150-180 kph, the plane would be difficult to hit. The flying tankette could bounce or fly over obstacles, and - having a flight ceiling of 1210 meters - also attack ground targets like an ordinary plane. The small size of the aircraft, the designers argued, would allow SAM-23 to start from ordinary roads, or taxi along them as needed, approaching the locations of sudden attack with stealth.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 15, 2017, 02:34:06 am
Why shoot back when you could just make a brew, light a fag, sit back and watch it fly into a crater?

The name Bloody Stupid Johnson springs to mind...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on March 15, 2017, 06:09:45 am
The name Bloody Stupid Johnson springs to mind...

Oh, yeah! ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 15, 2017, 04:10:43 pm
The name Bloody Stupid Johnson springs to mind...

Oh, yeah! ;D

+1 agree!  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 15, 2017, 05:44:51 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AGthMzV.jpg)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 16, 2017, 01:51:39 am
Having said that, I can see the height controlling boom having an application for agricultural work where it could be ensured the ground was free of obstacles.
Seed spreading on a large collective farm out on the Great Steppe for example.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on March 16, 2017, 05:29:59 am
Having said that, I can see the height controlling boom having an application for agricultural work where it could be ensured the ground was free of obstacles.
Seed spreading on a large collective farm out on the Great Steppe for example.

That's a interesting idea... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 17, 2017, 05:52:32 pm
Damn, that IS a good idea...   about midway or a third of the way up the pole there is a hopper or spray apparatus....no matter the slight variations of the altitude of the craft, the wheel thingy keeps the apparatus a guaranteed height above the earth. Maybe the thing could dispense seed -or- chemicals ya know?  In the back behind the cockpit it could be stores....;   it couldn't carry too much but perhaps enough to be viable. The engine is back there but just looking at it there seems to be at least some space.

Hell, if not for the already "nose in" nature of the thing I'd turn it into a plow!  Might still could...  :unsure:

I've no idea what to do with this yet... I've entertained my own ideas but it's anyone's guess. Once I'm done with the Tu-4, I'm going to do away with other plans for builds and focus on this thing. I wish I could do all the ideas but things are getting busy over here work wise so I definitely would like to get this done before the end of the GB.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 20, 2017, 09:23:53 pm
This rambling bunch of garbage may be for my own benefit as "notes" than anything but perhaps it may be of benefit to others.

I'm working again on the Shorts Tucano for the group build on Facebook.

I just applied a second coat of white acrylic to the wings and it's obvious that I will need probably another two. The same thing happened with the tailplanes that took I thinlk SIX coats of red before I decided it was good enough. I even remarked about the paint possibly being bunk and even bought another tube of a slightly different shade.

I've not had these types of problems before with these paints and I'm starting to think that now with the duplication of the problem with both red and white (the white has never been a problem before, the red is new to me and never tested) that the problem may be with what I primed with. I primed with Rustoleum 2X Tan camo paint. \

So far, both colors I've tried atop the Rustoleum 2x Tan have been utter garbage. The one thing I do know, however, is that ONE of those, the white, I've used before succesfully. I can't say the same for the red but I'm thinking now that the tan paint is the actual problem.

Lesson learned.

EDIT:
YOU KNOW WHAT....  I don't think it has anything to do with the Rustoleum at after all! I just remembered something about the white that I said I had used before with no problems and I now I remember that that's not the case. I used the white before on much smaller areas and with the appropriate brush. This is much more surface area than what I've painted before and I'm still using a small crap grade brush and the combo, along with the nature of the paint, and my lack of skills, are most definitely more to blame than anything! And by all means I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea about any products. I've not really had any problems with these Rustoleum paints so I shouldn't be throwing them under the bus for what is most likely my own fault!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 22, 2017, 09:49:07 am
My back has gone out and I'm in tremendous pain. Had to cancel work and and have been gobbling all kinds of medicine. Terrible. I keep trying to work around the house, too, and I need to just SIT here and not get up. I need to let this stuff heal up and I'm thinking if I can just sit here and STAY here that would be good so I need to be occupied. What better to do that than get back to work on this Tucano!   :thumbsup:  Hell, only like a week and a half left in the GB for it anyway. I'm just glad I got a ton of work done on it that first day.. with luck I can have this wrapped up pretty soon! I don't think there's much left to do... paint and final assembly. I need to paint the canopy, too, which should be about the end of the tedious stuff. Since I'm going to cheat on the paint job, it shouldn't be anything more than a matter of getting enough coats on and masking things.

Might work on the bomber some, too! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 22, 2017, 12:27:22 pm
Ouch, I hope that doesn't last too long and you're feeling better soon.

Well, not so soon as to prevent you finishing the model anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 22, 2017, 12:49:19 pm
Thanks. Hasn't been this bad in over a year! Feels like a couple rapiers plunged into my lower spine coupled with muscles that have given up and want to be at the same time too tight but not tight enough to hold things together!

Maddening!!

But hell what I an excuse, right?!  I'm working on models now and not having a too bad time as long as I don't make any sudden moves.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 22, 2017, 02:32:10 pm
Pain Killers and Plastic Cement... what's not to like about that combination?  ;D

Get well soon, a bad back's no fun at all.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 22, 2017, 03:14:28 pm
Pain Killers and Plastic Cement... what's not to like about that combination?  ;D

Get well soon, a bad back's no fun at all.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D   

Thanks!  You know ya got the glue/pills ratio correct when suddenly things are funnier than they normally would be and parts flying off to places unkown illicit giggles instead of copious cursing. ;D

Buy my God the pain associated with this latest bout has been off the charts. I'm feeling a bit better now but I'm not sure if it's just the pills or of it is a combination of that and my back -actually- getting better.  We'll see! I'll know in the morning. I cleared my schedule for two days to cope with it so I have 'til Friday in the morning to get lined out.

At least it isn't a bad gout flare up which I've had multiples before and have been bed ridden for weeks at a time!  Sometimes right alongside the back going out, too. It's always the same. Once one thing goes to crap, you have to use other things to pull double duty and next you know you have a chain reaction; gout sets into the knee so all of a sudden all your weight is strictly on the other leg/knee/foot so as a result THAT starts to hurt really bad.. then all the funny ways of walking and straining lead to the back problems and etc etc and next you know you're all crippled up every which way from Sunday. And with gout you can't even sit or lay without excruciating pain so you have to "sit" in a weird position for hours... all the stuff you use to make that possible goes down hill fast as a result. ETC ETC.    But ah well.. getting old is hell and I'm just glad I've avoided all but minor gout flare ups for about a year and a half. I had to change my diet around but it was well worth it! ( also learned that my friggin BP medicine is a major contributor to gout so that sucks but apparently my diet change is enough to cover it.. thankful for that because I wasn't looking forward to having to try something different). 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 22, 2017, 03:21:54 pm
Don't talk to be about Gout... it's amazing how just the one Big Toe swelling up can affect your whole life until the Steroids kick in...
(Brother in Law when I had to borrow their car: "Told you you should have gotten an Automatic." Not until I absolutely can't get a manual for love nor money.)

Yeah, getting old sucks... can't avoid it though.

Cascade Effect isn't pleasant, I agree.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 22, 2017, 03:38:37 pm
Yes sir! What the hell is it about that?! The big toe, right foot, for me. (sometimes the "ring" toe from when I rammed it into a coffe table leg, too though)  .....  MY GOD...   And I'm sure you know about the ridiculous swelling! Foot so big and painful it won't go into footwear any more. Put weight on it??  Yeah right. A FEATHER could brush up against it? Feels like a frag grenade going off.   And how things seize up!  One time I couldn't either straighten or bend my leg (knee) that was seized at about a 22.5 degree angle for almost 6 weeks which also was ballooned up like a damn basketball. 

I fight it with allipurinol and endomethacin but it seems like most of the time if I don't take the stuff at the first signs that it doesn't work nearly as well. If the stuff is already "set in" it takes a lot longer to help. I'd never tried steroids but I'll be asking about that the next time it happens.

Gout is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. And while it sucks, I'm glad to be in knowing company...  I don't think a lot people realize just how terrible it is.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 22, 2017, 05:55:14 pm
Alright. Some decent work done!

Painted almost all of the fuselage with the white and have the wings painted. I need to put one more coat on the fuselage. Back to the wings.... I've been paranoid lately about putting masking tape on my acrylic paint as I've had it come off before with it. Knowing this, I've been experimenting with floor polish again. The generic dollar store kind. Anyway, I'm not sure if it's me or if it's the lower grade polish but I've gotten mixed results depending on what I do and lately nothing good. That said, this time, I kind of LIKE the variation and non uniform effect that I got after putting it on. It plays with the light and makes darker and lighter spots and looks like a light weathering job perhaps? I dunno... but it adds a depth and richness to the paint job that I'm going to run with instead of looking at is as a negative.

Glued the wheels to the gear (main) and that's about it. Still no pictures for any of this but hey I'm just not feeling up to all the prep work that comes with it. Sorry. Pictures make for a much better write up but sometimes it's just too much. There will be plenty when it really counts.  ;)

I had surprise company so not much else got done and nothing with the bomber for sure.

Back is feeling better still but also still not sure if it's really better or I'm imaging it!  :unsure:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 23, 2017, 01:48:30 am
Only seems to be the big toes at present; doc said it was due to gravity and the lowest part of the body, but as has been seen your mileage does vary...

I find popping the knuckle helps, maybe it breaks up the crystals or something? My theory anyway...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 23, 2017, 03:19:51 am
My maternal Grandfather had gout.  I wonder if its hereditary?  I do seem to be turning into him as I age.
I recommend a good chiropractor for a bad back.  That and forward planning.  I built my bench at a height suitable for standing at so I could still work without sitting if (when) my back goes out again.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 23, 2017, 08:13:26 pm
I built my bench at a height suitable for standing at so I could still work without sitting if (when) my back goes out again.

That's not a silly idea... we have standing desks at work, and it's a nice change from sitting all day. They adjust so you can sit should you wish, so that's convenient too.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 24, 2017, 01:57:50 am
Mine uses a section of 4" fence post as a leg and is bolted to the shed frame so it would be hard to adjust. ;D
So I have a bar stool to sit on.  Took a bit of looking to find one tall enough though.
The height of the bench also keeps things up out of reach of the smaller fingers.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 25, 2017, 02:46:23 pm
Internet here has been acting a damn fool and I can barely do anything online. I've been trying to get this update out for about 4 hours or more.

I've been painting... got the wings done and now working on the fuselage. I decided to go ahead and try to do the oblong white part around the wing roots (like how it's supposed to be instead of what I planned, which was to just paint the area red right up to where the wings attach) by drawing the border on with pencil then trying to calmly and patiently paint it by hand. I figure with a guideline I might be able to do it. Worse comes to worse I'll go on ahead with painting it all red, no harm no foul.

(http://i.imgur.com/QlJV6BE.jpg)
Some time yesterday as I was masking for the red for the wings. Whilst plotting things out I noticed an error in the kit... the aileron on the port wing has a miss-casted panel line on the right inboard edge. It duplicated the (proper) angle of the starboard wing which of course makes it completely wrong. No worries, but it made a slight headache at first until I figured out what the problem was.

I also noticed a bit of discrepancy on the fuselage concerning the triangle shaped things up on the engine cowling.  In order to get things as correct as possible I've  had to split the difference where I masked. Originally, the red/white border splits the triangle in half but in order to do that it would have the red too far up on the fuselage so I just made my own alignment points with pencil and rolled with it.

Anyway, next pic after the wings were done. Hey, they turned out alright!!  Nice crisp border there.

(http://i.imgur.com/dnns3HV.jpg)

I'll check in later with more updates (only like 4 days left in this group build!!! ) if the internet allows it.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 25, 2017, 03:55:54 pm
Got the guideline penciled on and went in for my first pass.  Wadda ya think? 


(http://i.imgur.com/IPtxr7Z.jpg)

I think it has potential to work!! Not too shabby, I think!  Especially for me. I mean.. I'm not that skilled yet.  You should see my handwriting...   

Anyway, I'll have to get in tight in that area at least once more to ensure proper coverage (and make things "straighter" ) so the possibility of butchering still exists and of course I haven't done the other side yet... so.. at best I'm at a 25% success rate for painting this ovalish border.  Results are encouraging though. I'm glad I decided not to be lazy.. I just hope it works out in the end.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 25, 2017, 04:47:46 pm
This will be a duplicate post to some extent as the work being done is for my Tu-4 Bull for the Soviet GB. I'll be posting this post in my thread for it as well, but I want it here also because it's something completely new for me and something I want to learn and practice. When I decided to get back into this hobby I told myself that I wouldn't simply get back to building kits but that I'd try to commit to LEARNING as well. I want to get better. I want to do some of the things I see in others' build pages.

With this in mind I've decided to jump right in to one of the things I've been dreading most: cutting things with a hobby blade. In particular, masking tape prior to applying it.

I've tried using these knives before at various times for various things and never could quite get the hang of it. It never seemed to work for me and a good deal of time when I'd see someone using a hobby knife to cut something I'd always think,"Well, wouldn't scissors be better and faster?!"  So far, for a lot of things, this is true! I can cut things with scissors a hell of a lot faster than all the rig a marole involved with all the work involved with using the knives. That said, I've been noticing instances where I just can't use scissors and expect a perfect result. In steps the hobby knives and me trusty cutting pad.......

(http://i.imgur.com/2it5ojH.jpg)

The task at hand is to create strips of masking tape so I can achieve blue/white stripes on the bomb bay doors like those found on the Cuban flag. After having done a bunch of math I've found that I need two 7/16" strips per door (to cover the white) then I can paint the blue then I'll have my five stripes. Of course, I ain't got no 7/16" wide tape so I need to make it myself and I'm not about to try to do it with scissors.

I'm just going to measure it out and make points along the tape, draw a line, then use my metal rule as a guide then just sliiiiide the knife down the edge. If all goes well, I'll have two long 7/16" wide strips of tape that I can then go ahead and use my scissors to cut them into segments and slap 'em on the doors. Of course, I'll need to put guide marks on said doors as well but I'm just concentrating on making these strips.

Anyway.. I think I have the right idea and my blade seems sharp enough so here we go! 




EDIT: 

Lookin' good!!  If you really look, you can even see the cut lines up with the outside edge of one of the dots on the pad at both the top and bottom!  I did it!!  It's just a straight cut but It's a step in the right direction for me... My blade didn't fly off in some weird direction or anything.

(http://i.imgur.com/qBz1NB8.jpg)

I *think* I can get all 8 segments out of this strip, if not, I'll whack some off of the surplus.


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 25, 2017, 07:06:43 pm
Yeah, the markings on the cutting mats are a distinct advantage for doing stuff like this... you'd almost thing they were put there in part for that purpose, huh... wait...

It's really satisfying when you can get something like this done, keep up the great work.

And the curved line is coming along well, too.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 25, 2017, 07:43:23 pm
Yeah, the markings on the cutting mats are a distinct advantage for doing stuff like this... you'd almost thing they were put there in part for that purpose, huh... wait...

It's really satisfying when you can get something like this done, keep up the great work.

And the curved line is coming along well, too.

Thank you! I appreciate it... encouraging words and feedback help immensely.. If I were doing all this into a void I wouldn't have near as much motivation to continue.

You're so right about the cutting mat ( ,yeah, seems they were thinking!!!   ;D ;D) ....  I've had this thing for 25 years and NEVER used it. Now that I have... wow, I'm already starting to get spoiled.

The stuff I said I'd cut with scissors I went ahead and did with my metal rule and hobby knife.  Glad I did. The spacing was tight. I initially just eyeballed the tape and went with it and I was trying to get all eight segments out of the one strip, but I wasn't sure it was long enough,  so I decided to keep my tolerances tight whilst doing the lateral cuts to get my segments.

Even after keeping my tolerances tight I was off by a tiny bit and had to cut a further segment from the surplus but it worked out well. I now have my eight 7/16" strips and it was easier than I imagined and I'm learning and gaining new skills all the while. Not only that, but it was quite satisfying running that blade down the length of the tape. It wasn't a downer to do it and for that I'm glad.. that means next time around I need to do it I won't be filled with dread.

 :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 26, 2017, 12:41:28 am

Yeah, the markings on the cutting mats are a distinct advantage for doing stuff like this... you'd almost thing they were put there in part for that purpose, huh... wait...


I can't see the marks on my cutting mat, they're buried in a 2" thick layer of paint tins, glue dispensers, sanding blocks, unfinished projects etc etc...........  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 26, 2017, 12:57:45 am
Forget the tins & dispensers, mine are just covered in paint and glue.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 26, 2017, 01:00:00 am

Yeah, the markings on the cutting mats are a distinct advantage for doing stuff like this... you'd almost thing they were put there in part for that purpose, huh... wait...


I can't see the marks on my cutting mat, they're buried in a 2" thick layer of paint tins, glue dispensers, sanding blocks, unfinished projects etc etc...........  :banghead:

Some of mine have smeared and come off from some glue/thinners spills...

Yup, eyeballing is ok, but when you have a section which is only just big enough to do all the bits you need, it's better to measure... guess how I learned that one!  :rolleyes:

Doing something successfully is a distinct reassurance and encouragement to trying it again... and small steps and practice, of course - there were sooo many projects I tried in my younger years where my imagination and ambition exceeded my abilities and the project stopped dead.
Or where I thought I needed a specific piece of equipment or I couldn't do something - turns out there is often a work-around and it's a case of thinking outside the box and finding it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on March 26, 2017, 02:37:30 am
I often find doing something complicated successfully means I rarely do it again.
It's like i've proved to myself that I can do it and so don't need to do it again.
Doing it once is a challenge. If doing it again becomes a chore then i'm not really interested as this is my hobby and is supposed to be fun.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 04:01:19 pm
I hate when I come across these types of problems. I have a set of insructions and a set of pictures then I also have "common sense" all in conflict.

According to my instructions, there are two different sets of nose gear doors that are supposed to go on but all the pictures I see don't show the rear set. So... what the hell?? Without the rear set, when the gear are up, what covers the gear?! 

(http://i.imgur.com/tg8fFD5.jpg)
See here, according to the directions I need to put both sets, B9and B10 then I am supposed to cut D5 in half and glue them in as well. OK... yet, every picture I see either has one or the other... but never both. Case in point:

(http://i.imgur.com/0Ov6ph4.jpg)

So what the hell do I do?  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on March 29, 2017, 04:15:15 pm
I suspect the rear most doors open only when the gear moves up or down and then close again. That's why you don't see them in the pics. I would put them on un cut and closed unless you want to have the gear half way up or down. just my $0.02.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 04:22:50 pm
I suspect the rear most doors open only when the gear moves up or down and then close again. That's why you don't see them in the pics. I would put them on un cut and closed unless you want to have the gear half way up or down. just my $0.02.

That's exactly what I was thinking. That they open, then close, then open and close again upon retraction. But, damn, these instructions... don't jive. I'm just going to roll with the front set and leave the rear ones closed. That sucks, however, because when I cut them I lost the initial shape.  I had to file and re-smooth and make things straight again with the idea that with them being open, no one would be able to tell they aren't perfect any more. Now, if I have to glue the damn things back together again they won't be remotely the proper shape and I'll have to break out the putty and all that mess. And believe you, me, there isn't anything, anywhere in the instructions that speak about alternate set ups or "optional" parts and things of that nature. I've been able to surmise the things I can omit that are on various other versions than the Shorts but damn... this unclear vague instructions that tell me to do certain things that don't make sense give me a headache.  Nowhere does it say, "Oh, but wait, don't cut these after all unless you want them activiely in the 5 second window when they are open."  Nothing tells me, "Hey, don't cut these if you want this thing just sitting on the tarmac." Nothing... its maddening. I have to GUESS what is going on here.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 04:31:34 pm
Not only that, but there is some speed/air brake thing on the belly that the instructions call for that I also can't find on any pictures which leads to my next gripe: the lack of good pictures of the undersides of planes. There are a lot of good pics out there but it always seems like the ones I really need are always absent.

See D9:

(http://i.imgur.com/vQPowyU.jpg)

Thanks to the utter lack of actual instructions and merely working with the exploded diagram do I glue this thing on at the angle shown?? Do I lay it flat against the belly? In the picture above of the pretty blue Tucano I *think* I can see this thing extended but I can't really tell and we're back again to the lack of good pictures of the underside of these things. Either I can't find pictures of it or I DO find pictures that are of the wrong versions.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Now, I like a challenge, but I do NOT like vague BS instruction sheets that don't jive with either common sense OR pictures. I also am peeved at the lack of good reference material. In my experience it's actually astonishingly difficult to find pictures of THESE red/white trainer planes. I can find all kinds of stuff but not very many of these. I even found a build page of this very kit and it's not much help:

http://modelingmadness.com/review/mod/fordhamtucano.htm

And walk arounds of other Shorts :

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/73752-shorts-tucano/

But nothing jives.....
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on March 29, 2017, 04:32:23 pm
Since they will be closed would it be possible to cut one piece of plastic to replace both doors?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 04:43:34 pm
Since they will be closed would it be possible to cut one piece of plastic to replace both doors?
Yeah but I think it would be more work finding a replacement and making it correct than to just glue the things I have back together (things are a mess around here..). There's also a bulge in them that account for the tire that I'd have to replicate.  It won't be too much trouble to fix the ones I have but I shouldn't have to.... these crappy instructions leave much to be desired. Tell me to cut this poo-poo in half only for them to be closed anyway?! I could have just scored a line down the middle. What kind of "set-up" has someone modelling an aircraft in the midst of a 5 second window where these things are open?! Doesn't make sense. "For about 5 seconds when the gear are to be retracted, these doors will be open, and you may want to represent this, otherwise leave them alone" would have been nice information to have. But no, it just tells me to cut them in half and glue 'em in despite all visual evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 04:46:05 pm
Anyway... thank you, Kerick, for the swift response and comparing notes with me and helping me out. I'm going to just glue the rear doors back together and leave the fronts open. I don't think we can go wrong that way. This two hour fiasco could have been avoided, however, if the instructions weren't so ... "lacking." 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on March 29, 2017, 04:52:31 pm
I did a quick search and found this. It might help.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Short_tucano_t1_zf210_flying_arp.jpg/1200px-Short_tucano_t1_zf210_flying_arp.jpg)

Looks like the extra part you mentioned is an air brake and is flat against the fuselage. It might droop down when parked as hydraulic pressure bleeds off. It also appears that the main gear doors are also closed except when the gear is operating. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 04:56:06 pm
Sweeeeet.... ok, aft nose gear doors closed, air brake snug against the fuselage.  Check.  :lol:

I could kiss you.   :wub:


 ;D ;D ;D

It's not often I'm upset with my hobby. I blame Premiere for the lack luster instructions.

Now that the problem is solved, back to business as usual!  :laugh: :laugh:

(oh and this is the type of frustration that happens when I do real world stuff... if this were a whif I'd just pick and choose whatever I felt like.... I'm no bolt counting JMN but I DO have pressing sense of getting things right and once I set my mind to something it's impossible to go back....  I'm enjoying this lil guy and can't wait to see it done but I'll be glad to getting back to whif-world.. )
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 05:08:43 pm
In other news!   (And I know I've made a lot of replies in a short span, I'm not "spamming" or anything I promise!!  :angel:   )

Not everything has gone T.U. today! I've finished up the red on the fuselage and managed to not totally butcher the oval shapes around the wing roots... although, I will have to go back in with white to do touch-up as I got some red in there when I switched to my larger flat brush. No problem! It's just like painting a house... there's always touch up at the end.

ALSO, lesson learned on penciling the guidelines.....  the "slippery" nature of graphite and how thick and dark I made my lines have them "shining" through the red paint. I'm not going to try to fix it as it would require mutliple layers of paint and would be worse in the end, but, a valuable lesson was learned; the guidelines are a great idea, but next time, make them very light so that the paint can cover them up.

Also!! Look at my canopy!! Wow! I AM getting better at painting! I did it all by hand and I only had to clean up a couple of tiny areas with my toothpick. Not bad!! (VERY simply canopy, but still....)   The canopy and my props are going to be a couple of the high points of this build.  :laugh: :laugh:   I think the end product is going to be very nice!   :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/hNvIPwg.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on March 29, 2017, 05:15:18 pm
A couple of videos on you tube would be helpful but it looks like you have this one solved. I just wonder how many paint schemes these RAF birds have had!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 29, 2017, 06:10:37 pm
Canopy is looking good, nice work. :thumbsup:

WRT the overspill of red, I would try gently scraping it off with a sharp blade first and when you're mostly back to the white paint, then put another layer of the white down... it's a whole lot easier than trying to cover red with white...

HTH & Cheers
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 06:20:04 pm
A couple of videos on you tube would be helpful but it looks like you have this one solved. I just wonder how many paint schemes these RAF birds have had!
I know, right!!! Right when I think I've seen them all, another five or six pop up. 

It's great, though....  It would be sweet to make a Tucano collection of all these neat schemes! Even if the Shorts versions were crappy and the originals kind of flimsy (or whatever problems that I've seen mentioned) these planes are simply cool -looking- and all the different liveries adds to the appeal.

If this plane were a woman, she'd be very sexy and always well dressed!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 06:25:00 pm
Canopy is looking good, nice work. :thumbsup:

WRT the overspill of red, I would try gently scraping it off with a sharp blade first and when you're mostly back to the white paint, then put another layer of the white down... it's a whole lot easier than trying to cover red with white...

HTH & Cheers

Aye!  I appreciate that one... I will do that.  I was kind of worried about that and this particular way of addressing it hadn't crossed my mind. Not only that, but I put 3-4 coats of floor polish on the white before I masked and did the red so that should help even more with the scraping..

Man it's good to have friends help me along the way.

And thanks about the canopy!!  Man, some of my earlier work was rubbish compared to this...  a lot of what helped has been purchasing much better paint brushes but that doesn't help shaky hands and poor technique. Practice has helped me out quite a bit and this is one area I'm very happy to be getting better at. The thought of masking canopies is not all too pleasant.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 29, 2017, 06:31:35 pm
If you have a barrier coat like that, would it be an idea to use just then merest trace of thinners on a Q-tip and take the red off that way?
I don't know what sort of paint the red is, but the acrylic floor polish can be pretty robust.

Otherwise, you'll have to be very careful not to go through the polish with the blade, as patching that never goes as well as the original coats.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 06:48:16 pm
I thought of that, too, but I'm not too sure I have the proper tools to try it. Everything is so small and tolerances so tight.

I need a bunch of the little micro brush applicators.. that would be ideal. As it is now, I'd have to take a tiny piece of paper towel and prick it to the end of a toothpick (or something). That's not a bad idea though and worth a shot and worse comes to worse I can always come back in with touch up.

I think I'll try that first though, considering... I'll make some apparatus to scrub on the red and see what happens. I'd like to try now while the paint is still relatively fresh but I'm done for the day. So, tomorrow I'll give it a shot. I imagine with a combination of both methods and then coming back in with touch up I should be able to get things in order.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on March 29, 2017, 06:50:30 pm
Fair enough... best of fortune.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 06:56:28 pm
Gracias, amigo!  I can't go wrong now. All the right help in all the right places.

Now... about that Cuban heavy bomber. . . ..  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: seadude on March 29, 2017, 07:09:22 pm
Quote
I need a bunch of the little micro brush applicators.

http://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Tools-Adhesives/Superfine-Microbrush-Applicators/p/875

Actually, the little brush applicators can also be found wherever dental supplies are sold. I kept finding a lot of Google dental sites that kept mentioning the brushes.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on March 29, 2017, 07:45:14 pm
Quote
I need a bunch of the little micro brush applicators.

http://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Tools-Adhesives/Superfine-Microbrush-Applicators/p/875

Actually, the little brush applicators can also be found wherever dental supplies are sold. I kept finding a lot of Google dental sites that kept mentioning the brushes.

Oh, nice! With the 40% off that's a great deal! Hell, I have an HL two miles from here... I'll have to stop in and snag some. I actually looked for some earlier this afternoon when I was at Dollar Tree (found some other good stuff for modeling but no micro brushes... closest things where these lil deals with like little.. uhh...  lil branches or whatever...dental stuff but not the neat lil applicators.. .  ;D :thumbsup:   )

Hobby Lobby is awesome most of the time but a lot of stuff is pricey... that's where the 40% thing comes in. One thing I purchased about a month ago was a nice set of sanding sticks... came with all the sticks themselves, the sanding belts, and a slew of extra sanding belts. Reg. price was around $24 (and having looked around all over the 'net that's about the going rate... people are proud of these damn things..) but I used my 40% thingy and they wound up being around $13.  Now that's not bad for something so useful..

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 08, 2017, 04:47:21 pm
Hey there!!   :lol:

Neat stuff going on. I just got in the mail today one slice of inkjet water slide printer paper!  I'm going to be making my own transfers soon.  My problem is finding a "paint" programs worth a crap to use. I use MSpaint for jsut about everything but It is lacking and I need something better for making these decorations..  I think I might try Gimp. If anyone could offer advice on this I'd love to hear it....    I did learn one thing recently, that downgrading an image from, say, PNG to JPEG will mess it all up..  For instance, when I take even a very SIMPLE image and past it into MSpaint and save it as a jpeg, it "compresses" it. When I want to use the paint bucket to fill in an area, it'll fill in one or two pixels instead of all of it, so I have to ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM then paint it all a with the brush, etc... it turns a 1 second thing into a 10 minute ordeal. NOT COOL.  At least I know part of what is causing it.. the next thing is like I said, I need to use something better than MSPaint...

If anyone is curious, one project I have in mind that I need to make my own transfers for is an A-10 I'm going to create in a Magic The Gathering livery. MTG is a CCG (Collectible Card Game) and the cards are mainly 5 different colors. Red, Green, White, Black, Blue. I'm going to use green as the inspiration and turn the mana symbol for it (a tree) into the roundels and try to paint it and have it sort of like a magic card.. I'll name it "Stompy" as often green decks are populated with large creatures.  Should be neat if it goes well!

In other news, back to work on the Tucano! With the success of my "oval shaped area near the wing roots" painting that means that my "plan A" of painting the wings separately now has me with a nasty seam at the wing roots. First thing I did was hit the very edges of the paint with a file then chip it off of the joinging surfaces and do some light filing. Even after this, the seam is still nasty. I glued the wings on, though, then ran a bead of glue through the seam, followed by a second about 20 minutes later. Next I'll try just plain ol' paint in there to see how it looks and I HOPE I don't have to put putty or anything in there. It's tight and I don't want to mess up my paint. I guess if I have to, I'll mask everything to protect it then fill with putty then finally break out the brand new set of sanding sticks I bought.

(http://i.imgur.com/pSe1yR8.jpg)

At this angle, the oval bit looks a bit "long" there at the trailing end (when veiwed from the side it looks great, however, this just might be a case of bad camera angle.. )... may have to hit it with more red paint.  But... yeah, looks pretty good!  This is in danger of being a really neat build if I can just hold it together. . .
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 13, 2017, 09:00:05 pm
Got some work done on the Cuban Tu-4 then decided to devote a bit of time to my Tucano!

Another bead of paint down the wing root seams. Might do a couple more then hit the inside part of the wing with the white on it to have it match up better but I'm happy with this and am ready to progress with the build. With that in mind, I need to glue the tail planes on so I de-masked it.

(http://i.imgur.com/ngWkdV7.jpg)

I need to clean up the butting surfaces of the tail planes and also fuselage then I'll glue them on along with the two little horizontal fin things.

I THINK I'm about at the point where I can gloss this and start in with transfers!  Neat!

(have to touch up the interior and pilots, too)
EDIT: Also, have to paint black on the nose and then also paint the anti-glare patch up by the windscreen.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on April 14, 2017, 03:16:10 am
Looks pretty good so far in that pic.
Neat transitions between colours as different as red and white are always trickier than between close shades as any deviation is so blimmin obvious.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on April 14, 2017, 05:35:49 am
Looks pretty good so far in that pic.


Agreed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on April 14, 2017, 02:29:24 pm
Looks pretty good so far in that pic.


Agreed  :thumbsup:

+1 Yup!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 15, 2017, 09:18:16 pm
Thanks, guys!!!  :D

This is a high speed fly by update...

(http://i.imgur.com/0Q8WUro.jpg)
No flash this time.

Small but fair amount of work done yesterday.

Touched up the paint, glued on the tail planes and the little horizontal fin thingies..  exhaust pipes.  Also puttied and filed the nose gear door that I cut in half...  glued it in place. Should be fine after paint!

Merely layed the canopy on .... it doesn't fit worth two bovine excrements. Some filing and sanding will be necessary to achieve a snug fit.

I keep getting ahead of myself but I do think now that the anti glare "patch" should be painted next then it is indeed on to clear coat. I suppose I could glue on the two antennas but.... may wait.

EDIT:  Aye!!  Of course now I remember.. that I keep forgetting to finish the interior.; not only touch up all the paint but also transfers for the instrument panels go in there. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on April 16, 2017, 12:58:42 am

EDIT:  Aye!!  Of course now I remember.. that I keep forgetting to finish the interior.; not only touch up all the paint but also transfers for the instrument panels go in there.

I build with a sheet of A4 paper on the cutting map so that I can label any similar parts P & S (port and starboard) during assembly/painting and then when I get to this stage I just list all those small things that need to be done and cross them off as I do them.

Can't claim it's my idea, blatant copy of someone else's. Helps me, especially when I start to get on to finals.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 16, 2017, 05:48:37 pm

EDIT:  Aye!!  Of course now I remember.. that I keep forgetting to finish the interior.; not only touch up all the paint but also transfers for the instrument panels go in there.

I build with a sheet of A4 paper on the cutting map so that I can label any similar parts P & S (port and starboard) during assembly/painting and then when I get to this stage I just list all those small things that need to be done and cross them off as I do them.

Can't claim it's my idea, blatant copy of someone else's. Helps me, especially when I start to get on to finals.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 16, 2017, 05:52:35 pm
I'll remember that. For my own personal use I'll use "notepad" on the laptop here. I do the same thing for video games ("remember to return to such and such when your lockpicking skill is higher") so it would be easy to get into making a checklist with it.

I keep barely catching myself before forgetting things. A time or two I HAVE forgotten things such as when I completely forgot to glue in the intake duct work and turbo fan on my Vampire....  Even looking dead at it I could see myself gluing on the canopy before finishing the interior.   
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on April 24, 2017, 09:11:24 am
Tucano is looking good. :thumbsup: :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 24, 2017, 02:05:45 pm
Thanks, Brad!!!  Good to see ya, bud.  :lol:

Going to work on it some today, I believe!! Seems I have "walking " pneumonia so I've cancelled all work for the rest of today and tomorrow to rest up.  So, I can sit here and work on models. Pretty motivated right now!  Time for this lil Toucan and for the Bull Bomber to progress.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 24, 2017, 02:09:48 pm
"Walking " pneumonia? Where does it go to?

I've had the conventional sort and I wouldn't wish it on ANYone! I hope they fix it for you soon.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 24, 2017, 02:38:16 pm
"Walking " pneumonia? Where does it go to?

I've had the conventional sort and I wouldn't wish it on ANYone! I hope they fix it for you soon.

Thanks!! I wish it would walk the hell on outta here. The good part is, though, is that of all variety "pneumonia" to have, this is the "best."  I'm lucky I don't have the conventional sort or I imagine I wouldn't be able to work at all. 

For the most part, the "walking" aspect rings true.. I can function and work but it's no fun, for sure, and now I'm having new symptoms of not getting enough oxygen so I'm dizzy and sometimes I nearly pass out... sometimes I cough, evenn just a couple times, and that clears the O2 from my lungs enough to... have me nearly pass out.  One time I was driving down the street when it happened!!   Worrisome. 

Oh well, a nifty excuse to sit around and work on models airplanes. I need to do as close to nothing as possible and sitting here on my bum is about the best way I can think of to do that. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 24, 2017, 05:03:25 pm
Well... I made it two hours.  I just don't have it in me to go further. I got a little work done at least!

I worked on my Bull bomber.... uhh... glued a thing that broke and then began putty work on the wing root seams. First pass went well! I was able to put the putty in there then dampen a folded paper towel with white spirits then smoooooothed it out. I messed up some by palming it but overall a good start. I'll let this dry then go back in for another pass then get to sanding it.

For the lil Toucan, I painted on the anti glare strip and touched up the interior stuff... got it all good to go then I hung 'er up and sprayed on a coat of gloss clear. I was planning on going ahead with decaling the thing but... like I said, the bottom dropped out and I'm not feeling all too well so... it's good to let it dry a couple days anyway then won't be long and I'll be done with it. It should turn out nice!!!  I got a "good" amount of work done on it, I think...   the paint touch ups and the anti glare thing where what had the whole thing on hold so at least now we're rolling again.

I only have one lawn to cut Wednesday after picking up garbage so....   for the first time in weeks I may actually be home around noon or 1 PM and may actually have some energy left over!!  I've been looking forward to spending a good chunk of a day working on my kits.. It's been awhile.   &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 26, 2017, 03:44:00 pm
Stepped off in one this time for sure!!!!!! Trying to move forward on this Tucano.YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUZ.

I'm DEFINITELY going to be implementing NARSES2 method of taking build notes and making a checklist. I THOUGHT I was ready to decal this thing. I even whipped up a batch of my glorious vinegar/dish soap/hot water blend.  Then I sits down and reference the instructions. Oh crap!! forgot the anti skid walk way stuff on the wings!!  No prob.. a simple masking job and will done..  except.. it was much more a pain in the butt than I imagined.. trying to get the tape down into the wing roots, straight, and correct... was a tedious task that was frustrating and took awhile. BUT, I managed it...      Then, I also noticed that the angle of my tailplanes was WRONG!!!! They're supposed to be flat horizontal at a 90 degree angle with the fin... well, I had them canted upward at about a 10 degree angle. Sure looked good... but NOT ACCURATE.

So, I snapped them off.... sanded down the fuselage where they attach, then filed down the joining surfaces on the tail planes themselves (to ensure a good fit!!) only to get to gluing them on and spend the next half hour or more repeteadely trying to move, remove, re positiong, and get them RIGHT. I was using CA so the work time was short and I kept having to break and re do... and eventually the glue all built up, etc etc and it was just a disaster that was pissing me off.   Eventually I got them all aligned correctly but the area where they join isn't as clean as I'd like it to be... oh well... it still looks decent enough. I'll roll with it.

Current state:
(http://i.imgur.com/rZ0qIg3.jpg)

Seems like it takes 5 hours to do 30 minutes worth of work!   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 26, 2017, 04:28:25 pm
Canopy won't snug down. I finally figured out what was causing most of that.. the rear instrument panel was too wide... so I started to file it down.. I'l have to repaint but it's almost there. Still not quite snug but I'm too frustrated to keep working. Snapped off an exhaust pipe and repeteadely bent a tailplane.. had to glue and re paint and etc etc and none of it looks as good as it did before I broke everything.

I have to put it down. (ever have a day where it seems like literally everything you touch and try to do just goes to crap???  Yeah, that's today with this one... )  I'll get it eventually but all these mistakes... sheesh.. I still have a lot to learn!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on April 27, 2017, 04:10:55 am
You never stop learning mate.

I would have left the tails with dihedral.  Accuracy is over-rated.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on April 27, 2017, 06:19:34 am
You never stop learning mate.



Absolutely, and you should never, ever be frightened to ask questions no matter how silly  they may seem to you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on April 28, 2017, 01:19:44 am
You never stop learning mate.



Absolutely, and you should never, ever be frightened to ask questions no matter how silly  they may seem to you  :thumbsup:

Yup, cos some of the rest of us may be thinking of asking the same 'silly' questions...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 28, 2017, 03:07:05 am
You never stop learning mate.



Absolutely, and you should never, ever be frightened to ask questions no matter how silly  they may seem to you  :thumbsup:

Yup, cos some of the rest of us may be thinking of asking the same 'silly' questions...  :rolleyes:

And with a bit of luck one of us may know the answers too.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 28, 2017, 03:36:08 am
You never stop learning mate.

I would have left the tails with dihedral.  Accuracy is over-rated.   ;D

There for awhile I was wishing I had! 

Can't wait to get back to whif-only for awhile. I like doing accurate stuff, too, but some of my personality traits have be driving myself nutty over certain detail aspects. It's odd, because I'll  pass over others but once I make up my mind to do something a certain way, that's it, no turning back! 


Thanks everybody.... :) :) 

I'll be back to work on kits todays...  going for the final push on this one. I have to paint some red on the underneath (sort of like the black anti slip strips, but connected with the rest of the red... just a couple of sections that "stick out" down on the belly)and less than 60 seconds of paint touch up in the cockpit then I can, I THINK, try to to the transfers again. 

Also back to work on the Bull bomber that has been whipping my butt.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 28, 2017, 04:33:49 pm
SO HELP ME, GOD.


All I was lacking was to throw on a couple strips of tape on the belly of this Tucano so I can paint some red on the underside per the the little "jut out" or whatever of the red from the fuselage onto the wings. 

NATURALLY, I didn't even put any pressure on it, merely grazed it, and one of the tail planes fell off.  WELL, hells bells, man, I have so much CA built up on it now that if I go back AGAIN that the the tail planes will be "floating" about a foot off the fuselage... So.. I just went on ahead and snapped the other one off again, too, and I'm going to file away all this slag and the stuff on the fuselage, AGAIN, and try, AGAIN to glue these things on.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZfSpqcT.jpg)
Look at that mess.

(http://i.imgur.com/LEAb32R.jpg)
GRRRRRRRRRR..

Im going to affix a wire wheel to my DeWalt drill to get all the built up glue off of the fuselage.. (it's that bad.. ). Tired of fussing with this particular pain my donkey. I'm never going to be done with this thing. I've glued and re glued the damn tail planes about 8 times now. Sometimes things just WON'T... GO... 

(http://i.imgur.com/kGp1V0Q.jpg)
Time for the heavy artillery.

If this stupid thing keeps on like this I'm going to glue them on backwards and upside down just for the hell of it.  ;D ;D





 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 28, 2017, 04:45:38 pm
Nice.  Screwed up my pretty red down there (other side is better at least! )  and gouged the piss out of the plastic but at least I won't be sanding CA for half an hour.

(http://i.imgur.com/MHmZuNC.jpg)

Now, I'll run through with some sand paper to smooth out all the gouges and repaint everything and try again. The delicate, careful approach isn't working so it's time to force this thing into submission.

Adding a couple more days to this as the exhaust pipe broke off again and I'm at the point now where I need to also file and sand all that down and repaint. And, now, I have so many "patches" that I'll need to re gloss coat the whole thing. 

I will NOT let this little feller get the best of me.......    :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 28, 2017, 05:16:58 pm
OK, last update for now...  currently repainting things. I sanded down the area where the xhaust pipe goes and put on some red.. also putting white back on the fin area.. it will take a number of coats with sanding with fine sand paper in between but I'm feeling pretty good about this. It's extra work.. it's frustrating.. but it will be a better end result, I just know it!  Sometimes you just have to take it back to bare metal (bare plastic in this case) and start from the base up!

 :rolleyes: :lol: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on April 28, 2017, 05:46:37 pm
I sympathise with you!
Just don´t let the frustration get the better of you!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 28, 2017, 06:06:16 pm
I sympathise with you!
Just don´t let the frustration get the better of you!
Thank you, brotha...  &lt;_&lt; 

I'm trying, but I think it's pretty apparent that I'm upset.

I got a few coats of paint on the repairs, at least, and I'm now going to let it set. (Hell, *I* need to set more than the plane does.   ;) )  But anyway, I needed that bit of "progress" at the end so that I didn't put it down feeling utterly defeated........ so, I have that, and feel better about the whole situation. 

One problem I'm having is that too many outside influences are affecting my mood so I'm already behind the game coming into this. If I could just clear up some of the stuff going on outside of modeling I'd be better off. 

And... here's the thing.....  98% of everything going wrong here is my own fault!  ;D ;D ;D   Sooo...... the good thing is that I can just keep learning and gathering experience. But, it's easy to tell myself that once I leave it alone yet in the middle of having the tailplane fall off for the 6th time all I can do is see red.   ;D

Thanks again, and kudos to you and all the other great folks here that have been helping me and keeping me sane lately. 



 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on April 28, 2017, 07:23:21 pm
All the best & keep smiling... you've come too far to let it get the better of you now.  &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on April 29, 2017, 04:15:44 am
I find that once you break/knock a part off once it will continue to break. Especially true where you've used superglue  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 29, 2017, 07:53:12 am
All the best & keep smiling... you've come too far to let it get the better of you now.  &lt;_&lt;
Thanks, Rick! Back at it this morning. I've cleared my schedule the entire day. It has rained outside and cold front moved through, etc...   so... I'm just going to watch movies and work on this model kit stuff today. I've already woken up and started painting. :)  I feel pretty good about getting this done today!

I find that once you break/knock a part off once it will continue to break. Especially true where you've used superglue  :banghead:
So true. What it is about that?! Has to be a Murphy's law.  I'm hoping by going all the way back down to the plastic this time around that I'll be back in business.


I'm going to make a bold statement and say here that I will be done with this, completely, by the close of the day.   (what am I getting myself into..   lol  )   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 29, 2017, 10:09:56 am
No pictures for now but I'm proceeding on ahead and so far so good with the repair work! I did manage to screw up the placement of the tape when I put it down to protect some of the finish when I went nuclear on the fin area with the wire wheel.  The awesome news here is that the finish is coming along and will look good... should be nice and smooth. Not perfect, but certainly not bad.

Now, I need to get in there and clean up where I had the tape..  the paint build up at the edge and there's a raised line of paint there so I'm going to open up and use my sanding sticks that I bought like 4 months ago.  Damn things are expensive.. but I got them at 40% off so weren't bad about about $14.. but anyway..... there are 5 sticks (or 4...) with 10 extra belts for each so it's great having these and I'll need them to sand down these lines without butchering the rest of the finish.

I have to glue on the tail planes again, of course, but I'm thinking that should go much better and more swiftly this time since I'm working with nice clean, smooth surfaces again.

I plan on 2 hours tops fixing this paint up then it's in for a gloss coat. I can let that sit for an hour then start in decaling the plane. Not sure if you're supposed to put them on so soon after but I did it before and it seems to have not hurt anything so....  boy am I glad my gloss coat dries to touch quickly!  After just an hour I can pick it up and handle it with no worries. 

Around 5 or so I'll crack open a beer and start transfers then by 7 I should have started on gluing all the last little widgets and stuff on.

At least, this is the plan!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 29, 2017, 12:06:45 pm
Nailed a deadline!  Sure enough, I'm done with all painting and glued on the last tail plane right at 1:59.  ;D ;D  So... I'm right on schedule! 5 minutes from now I'll hang this up and apply the gloss coat then let it sit for about 2 hours while I work on the Bull Bomber.

All the repairs went exceedingly well..  Current state:

(http://i.imgur.com/pHxI4Af.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 29, 2017, 04:03:09 pm
In typical fashion for how this has been going lately, I get to decalling this bird only to have shattering transfers.

(http://i.imgur.com/anxbcFZ.jpg)
Go figure...

At this 11th hour I'm not trying to dig out all the stuff in my spares and try to find replacement. I'd only be able to find the roundels anyway and the fin flash andstencils(with the exception of maybe the yellow "rescue" arrows) would not be available. So. I'm just going to have to rebuild a jigsaw puzzle with each of these as I go. The tri-colored stuff with white is printed in layers so I'm hoping that only the roundels and fin flash will be like this and that the rest of the stuff printed just by itself will go on better. I imagine those roundels and fin flash, being printed how they are, are ever so slightly thicker and thus more brittle from sitting around in less than ideal atmosphere for decades. We'll see!

I said I was going to wrap this up today but this is slowing me down...  I'm going to keep chugging though.   :lol:

EDIT:  Seems like this is going the other way... the "thinner" transfers with less printing are even worse...   


Calling it quits now until I can come up with a solution for this. The rest of the transfers are all so small... I'm thinking of spraying gloss on them all but I've already cut them down into pairs so I'd have to attach weight to them all to keep them from flying off when I spray. That, and I'd have to trim them down really tight, right?  Not looking forward to that... I can trim them easily but then having such small pieces to try to handle...  it's not going to be easy. 

This said, I have half a mind to try another transfer. The ones I just now tried that shattered into dozens of pieces are the simple black letters and numbers of the aircraft identifier. Perhaps the colored stencils will work?  I doubt it.... I want to try one but if it destroys itself I can't replace it..


 :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on April 29, 2017, 04:39:02 pm
That sucks, specially when it's the only set that you have of what you need... Hope you get around it, that little bird is looking great! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on April 29, 2017, 05:00:41 pm
Yes, that is coming along nicely.  :thumbsup:

The idea of a clear coat over the whole sheet is probably the way to go - if you've already cut them apart, what about brushing on the clear? Or blu-tacking them to something, for spraying.
You'll have to be a bit careful the clear doesn't activate the decal's glue, but if it dries quickly you should be able to get up and away again fairly soon after the clear coat.


WRT the ongoing superglue problem, have a think about some sort of extra-thin styrene cement (Tamiya Greentop or Humbrol with the minuscule brushes in the lids) as this forms more of a welded bond, rather than a layer of glue in between the parts.
It bonds really quickly, to the point where you can let go within about 30-60 seconds and it will keep it's place and dry where you want it.
(blowing gently on the join also helps the glue to activate).

I understand the school of thought where 'Superglue is easy and quick', but when you have that sort of ongoing problem, it might be worth trying something else.
I will use SG for certain applications, but for general assembly of all-plastic components, styrene cement is IMHO the way to go - that's what it was made for, after all.  ;)
And. as I said, the thin stuff dries really quickly.

HTH  &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 29, 2017, 05:22:03 pm
That sucks, specially when it's the only set that you have of what you need... Hope you get around it, that little bird is looking great! :thumbsup:

Thanks! It truly is looking nice! I'm happy with it.  It's so cool getting better at painting this stuff.. all the colors and patterns look so neat!

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 29, 2017, 05:28:12 pm
Yes, that is coming along nicely.  :thumbsup:

The idea of a clear coat over the whole sheet is probably the way to go - if you've already cut them apart, what about brushing on the clear? Or blu-tacking them to something, for spraying.
You'll have to be a bit careful the clear doesn't activate the decal's glue, but if it dries quickly you should be able to get up and away again fairly soon after the clear coat.


WRT the ongoing superglue problem, have a think about some sort of extra-thin styrene cement (Tamiya Greentop or Humbrol with the minuscule brushes in the lids) as this forms more of a welded bond, rather than a layer of glue in between the parts.
It bonds really quickly, to the point where you can let go within about 30-60 seconds and it will keep it's place and dry where you want it.
(blowing gently on the join also helps the glue to activate).

I understand the school of thought where 'Superglue is easy and quick', but when you have that sort of ongoing problem, it might be worth trying something else.
I will use SG for certain applications, but for general assembly of all-plastic components, styrene cement is IMHO the way to go - that's what it was made for, after all.  ;)
And. as I said, the thin stuff dries really quickly.

HTH  &lt;_&lt;

Thanks, brotha!

Can't brush the clear as all I have is rattle cans and generic floor polish which I do NOT trust.  I like the blue tack idea... I may have to use tiny rolls of masking tape, however, but that is a great idea.. I can affix all my little pieces to a piece of cardboard or something them give them what they need from my gloss rattle can.

Digging the glue you mentioned and I've thought about picking some up. I had to go with CA on this particular application, however,  because of the fact that the surfaces were painted ( on the fuselage at least) so there was no chance of actually welding the plastic. With my skill level and the paint scheme, I had to paint all this stuff separately then glue it... that's why I went with CA.

Big thanks for the help and interest, Rick!   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on April 29, 2017, 05:35:16 pm
Oh, right - I missed the bit about pre-painted...  :banghead: and it's all there in the photos, too...  :rolleyes:
That makes more sense, given the paint job and how you went about it.

Glad to help; information not shared is information lost, right?
And just cos some of us know things, that doesn't mean the information is as widespread as we imagine...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on April 29, 2017, 05:42:20 pm
I've brushed Future/Clear on decals before and it worked. Test it on something replaceable
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on April 30, 2017, 04:26:43 am


The idea of a clear coat over the whole sheet is probably the way to go -


WRT the ongoing superglue problem, have a think about some sort of extra-thin styrene cement (Tamiya Greentop or Humbrol with the minuscule brushes in the lids) as this forms more of a welded bond, rather than a layer of glue in between the parts.
It bonds really quickly, to the point where you can let go within about 30-60 seconds and it will keep it's place and dry where you want it.
(blowing gently on the join also helps the glue to activate).



Agree with both of these statements. The only problem with the really thin glue is that sometimes it drys before you actually get the parts together, but otherwise I think it's best to use glue and "weld" the parts together where you can. Super glue can be quite brittle in the way it reacts to a "sharp" tap and that type of action.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on April 30, 2017, 04:53:40 am
I second Chris.  Superglue is, IMO, too brittle to use on something like horizontal tails.  If i've painted the surfaces i'd use 5 minute epoxy with a blue tac prop holding the stab at the required angle.  Epoxy has much more give before letting go and also excess can be wiped off with a wet (licked) cotton bud before it sets.
I'd also glue one at a time.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 30, 2017, 07:27:14 am
Ah ha! I'll use my epoxy next time then. I have tons of it. Haven't used any since I made that nose piece for the F/U-2.

Using the super glue... it's like I'm on pins and needles and don't feel better until I throw the gloss coats on hoping the thin layer of varnish will "help" hold things together.   :rolleyes: ;D

I imagine it does indeed help some but probably not all too much... but... I FEEL better after I've "encapusulated" me airplane.  ;D   

I try not to use CA more than I have to and even when I do, I always use regular weld along with it. -- Sometimes I'll use a tiny blob or two of CA on a piece and then cover the rest of it with regular cement just so the piece will "stick" faster but then I also have the long term effect from actually welding the plastic using the plastic cement. In terms of metal welding, it's like I'm using the CA as "tacks" and the styrene cement as the "bead."  It works great!  But yeah, I don't use CA unless I absolutely have to... plastic on plastic gets welded every time.  :lol:

In other news! I woke up and before I even got my day started I slapped the remaining tranfers onto something heavy that I had just laying around then glossed 'em up. At first I was like, "oh #%^#$%^$!" because I thought I sprayed too much and would soak the sheet and turn 'em all loose but I didn't and they've dried on up marvelously and sure LOOK like they are no worse for the wear and now let's hope this has filled in all the tiny cracks and will hold these things together. I can't wait to try one but I want to go ahead and let them (and me) set for a while.   


And look! It's as if this thing is mocking me at this point.  ;D  It ain't even as if there are a ton of highly detailed transfers I'm waitin' on.. it's just like 8 little things left to go that has the entire build on hold.  :o ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/4TxqG0J.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 30, 2017, 03:55:42 pm
The transfers wouldn't come off the paper! I got like, two of them... and that's it.  So, I went for a dive through my spares and thankfully found everything I needed. Also, I had to come back with paint and paint brush to fix the roundels.

But... all done! Turned out pretty good!  I plan to get better pics for it at some point.


(http://i.imgur.com/H2eabBV.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on April 30, 2017, 04:24:50 pm
That looks great, Brad!  :thumbsup: The Tucano is very cool, been thinking of building one as a trainer/light attack plane for the Portuguese AF, just have to buy the kit...   :banghead:

:cheers:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 01, 2017, 04:12:15 am
Very good Brad.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on May 01, 2017, 05:41:33 am
Ni-ice! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on May 01, 2017, 05:51:06 am
Yup she may have fought you all the way but you are winning, looking good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 01, 2017, 06:51:40 am
That looks great, Brad!  :thumbsup: The Tucano is very cool, been thinking of building one as a trainer/light attack plane for the Portuguese AF, just have to buy the kit...   :banghead:

:cheers:
Do it!!


Thanks everyone! I like how this one turned out. I seem to really like red and white schemes. I have a bunch of other trainer and test planes in the stash that are either red /white or orange /white (and black).  I imagine I'll have a whole shelf for these training and test craft.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 04, 2017, 06:11:51 pm
I feel like garbage. I have no time to spare for anything fun.. feel like... just... garbage. I'm starting to get over this walking pneumonia but I'm still having after affects like nausea, feeling feint, no damned energy or motivation, etc etc.  I can barely manage the will to come here and update my own threads and work on my own crap and then I feel bad because I'm just so spent that I don't have it in me to comment or look at too much else. I do look around and love everyone's work but when I try to come up with something to say I just.. can't. This mess is so much just like depression but I don't think I'm in a bout of that.. I'm just.... spent! From this stupid illness and having such a heavy work load.

Long story short.. I feel like an donkey for mainly only coming around and updating my own stuff but I promise I wish I could do more! 

My God and to think all this stemmed from going to the Dr. and picking up some bug from their office... the irony stings.  What next, I take a shower and come out covered in mud?  :o

Anyway.... until next time!

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 05, 2017, 07:36:05 am
 

My God and to think all this stemmed from going to the Dr. and picking up some bug from their office... the irony stings. 


When you think about it, doctor's surgeries are the most unhealthy places in town. EVERYone there is ill, by definition.....  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on May 05, 2017, 07:40:36 am
If you want to get sick go to the hospital!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 06, 2017, 02:45:48 am
YEAH, I was so PISSED over this deal.

My appointment was for Dec. 29 but the office canceled 4 in a row!!!!  Doctor kept wanting to go home early or go on vacation...... 4 times in a row.  Well, back in the dead of winter, I could afford to take off time to lay around and get well but not in the heart of the growing season! I've had to work out in the heat mowing lawns all day because of them constantly pushing my appointment back. I finally go in April and walk out and feel sick by the evening and within 3 days I'm full on sick and having to deal with the most strenuous and busy season yet. Think I can tell my customers to shove off for a few weeks? No... so I've been sick a month now because I've really only spent 2 days.. maybe three, actually resting.

Day by day I'm getting better though... couple days ago I even managed a few backed up chores around the house here (like washing the dog... lol  ... poor guy is allergic to grass so he's always with a skin problem).

Any how... I am getting better and woke up today at 3:40 AM so I can get to work nice and EARLY and stay OUT OF THE HEAT AND SUNLIGHT.  Depending on how I feel after getting all my paying work done I need to mow my own yard. It's large and takes 4 hours usually.  Point being, is I may decided to skip it in which case I'll be back to doing inside chores and after a couple hours of that I could settle in and work on my Bomber some more. If I don't skip it, then, well, may not get much done on it after all but we'll see.  I have to go grocery shopping, too, at no less than three stores although I may be able to skip one.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 06, 2017, 10:46:19 am
So much for Model Time!  Big water leak at work that I'm going to fix now rather than later.  Mostly digging a ditch then some cutting and gluing and the like.  Kinda like modeling!   ;D ;D

Here's the good part, though, I'm really starting to feel like normal again finally.  Feeling pretty energized right now even after wakiing up at 3:40 AM.  I doubt I'll feel too good after digging this ditch, however.   :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on May 06, 2017, 07:45:01 pm
Good to hear you're feeling better! Irrigation systems are a bit like modelling indeed, although it's a lot of digging, i love to set up a new system.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 06, 2017, 08:57:52 pm
Thanks! I'm back to my usual bloviating and ridiculous self.  ;D

You're right!  It is pretty fun doing the irrigation!  I enjoyed myself for the most part doing that type of work for a company here in town back in the day. I learned a lot working for that guy.   :lol:   Adding to that, the problem I had today was solved, thankfully. I'm glad I could handle it.

Did I mention I woke up at 3:40 AM?   (I'm reading back across my comments and I look like an insufferable humblebragging douche)   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 07, 2017, 04:04:33 am
I busted the valve on my rainwater tank yesterday.  You want to come down here and fix it for me?
There's a drink in it for you.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 07, 2017, 06:35:22 am
Well then I'll just lace up my walkin' shoes and be on my way!  :mellow: :mellow: ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 08, 2017, 05:21:29 am
Going to try to do some modeling today!


Let's see how it goes. Going to get right in there on the Cuban bomber and see just how much I can get done. I'd like to put a coat of primer on it pretty soon so I can start painting. Kind of "over" the construction phase right now. These bombers can drag on sometimes because of all the extra stuff that has to be done. I'm ready to move on. I still have to sand all my putty work and the repair on the tailplane then I need to get back in the instructions to make sure I'm not forgetting anything, then.. I believe.......  I can close up the fuselage. I think once  I get to that point I'll be on the down hill slide and it will only be a matter of time before it's finished. I think all the major stuff is out of the way and at that stage not too much more "busy work" should be necessary. 
 :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 13, 2017, 03:54:53 am
My, how time flies when you don't have 'net access... glad to know you are recovering well, or were back then.
How are things now?

Yep, I can feel motivated and rarin' to go when I wake up early, but the day after that? Not pretty how quickly I can crash & burn. Old age doesn't help...  :banghead:

And yeah, that's come out really well - nice work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 13, 2017, 04:37:11 am
My, how time flies when you don't have 'net access... glad to know you are recovering well, or were back then.
How are things now?

Yep, I can feel motivated and rarin' to go when I wake up early, but the day after that? Not pretty how quickly I can crash & burn. Old age doesn't help...  :banghead:

And yeah, that's come out really well - nice work.  :thumbsup:

Good God, it was somewhere around the 3-3.5 week mark when I finally felt better. Lungs cleared up and I could operate better.. it took about ~4 days or so before the "after effects" wore off but I'm good to go now!  Haven't been sick for years because I typically stay away from groups of people, especially kids. I'm already planning on skipping the next doctors apointment which they want on August 17th... yeah right, like I'm going to risk getting sick again during the most miserable time of year!

Thanks, Rick!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 18, 2017, 03:33:36 pm
Well!! Long time no bloviate!!  ;D

Ready for the 1 week group build so now I've unearthed one of my shelved products: the Republic of Molossia f-84!  Last we checked I butchered the canopy and had a crazing problem... also knocked the nose piece off and re-attached it creating a bit of a gap. Also.... wing root seams.. but.. I think I will leave those alone because I'd have to do a bunch of repainting with rattle cans in order to tackle that and the fit isn't all too bad... what I might do is paint on some flat black to simulate the anti-slip tread strips that sometimes occupy those areas. The black can not only hide the seams some but I can probably "glob" it in there pretty thick and possible seal them up!

(http://i.imgur.com/EtX1yXg.jpg)

A coincidence about this one today, too. I already had plans to get back to work on this but I was sort of thinking... "ehhhh, maybe not..."  But like I said, a coincidence today....  from the Republic of Molossia FB page: 

The Republic of Molossia, the nation down the street, welcomes you to join us in celebrating our 40th Anniversary, Saturday, 27 May, 3-6 PM. Come enjoy a tour of the nation, free food (while it lasts), music and more!

(http://i.imgur.com/5gXbkll.jpg)

So, how 'bout that! Just enough time to make repairs and then have this done for the celebration!!  JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE DAY THE ONE WEEK GB STARTS!!  Couldn't plan this crap this well if I tried!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Speaking of the one week GB... I do have a really neat build planned and in the works for it so go see my thread in the 2017 One Week GB forum if you're interested in that.  :lol:


Brad
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 09:58:31 am
Tried good ol' paint thinner on the canopy. I tried rubbing it, then let it sit in a bath of it for hours and hours, ---wouldn't even touch it!!

Going to try brake fluid on it today.  ;D

As for the rest... since I have sanding sticks now, I think I can use them to get rid of all the crazing without wiping out too many of my raised detail lines.  If I can get that done then I can start masking things up to start painting again. Three areas to address... the rear sections with all the crazing, the nose piece, and the wing roots.  Nose piece I'm going to mask and make a different color. The paint alone should fill in the gap created when I broke the nose piece off. Simple enough. (I also broke off the little antenna or whatever it is that connects to the diverter)  Same story on wing roots... a combination of paint fillin the gap and also being black to help "hide" the wing root seams.  We'll see!!   Simply going back white again on the tail section although I think I'll use my acrylic paint and hairy stick instead of rattle can again.  I'll finish the whole thing off again, SANS CANOPY, with gloss once all this is done then I will be back on track again pending the canopy project works. If not, I'm going to do what I can with it, make it black, and we'll have limo tint on the canopy.   ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 10:12:34 am
I don't have any over clean at the moment but barring that, what other things might I try if the brake fluid doesn't work?  Mind you this gloss coat has had months to cure.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 11:31:45 am
Alright! Good news all around. Wings weren't really attached so I took them off and cleaned up the mating surfaces. HUD thing fell off which was  OK because I forgot to paint the inside of that part of the cockpit. Also, the sanding of the fuselage APPEARS to have went well. Canopy is chilliin' in the brake fluid. 

'Bout time for lunch but after that I can go ahead and start masking and painting. Going back white on the rear of the fuselage then I'm going to add an anti glare strip that flows into a black ring around the edge of the intakes (to fill up that little seam.)  Not going to bother with the black on the wing roots. I'm going to go ahead and do them properly now that the wings are off. I can glue 'em and should be just the glue itself should fill up the seam. May go back with another coat and sand it all up later. Between this and the paint it should look good.


(http://i.imgur.com/9z6yVqs.jpg)


In other realms, It's nice and sunny out so I'm trying to get better pictures of the last couple of builds. I took some of the Tucano and I'll need to look at them on the computer here to see if they are up to muster,if so, all I need to do is get some of the Cuban Bomber then that will be out of the way as well.  :lol: :lol:


EDIT: All but one or two of the Tucan pics are garbage. "One extreme to another." Too dark and hazy or too bright and glare-ey!   :banghead:

One of these days I'll buy a proper digital camera instead of relying on this phone which does manage to take good pics from time to time but I barely know how to work it and....... well... it's old technology now, for sure.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 20, 2017, 01:43:42 pm
Don't know if I've said before, and it's a bit late anyways, but I'd hesitate before using brake fluid on a canopy.
I've had it attack the plastic - not in a majorly bad way, but it seems to leach something out.

I have had good results in using a nail buffing system to polish clear plastic - and I mean after I'd been attacking the parts with a file!
Couple of grades of progressively finer sandpaper, 800 & above, then the 3-step Clean-Shine-Polish system.

A bit of a PITA on something that small, but here it is FWIW.


PS - I don't know where you'd find Elbow Grease (tm)*, I had to make do with what I had, but it still worked.


*Probably in the aisle with the Polka Dot and Tartan paint.. . ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 01:55:50 pm
 ;D ;D ;D

I think you told me about the brake fluid on the canopies before but I forgot!!! I'll take that sucker out right now.  :lol:

Doesn't seem to have caused any (extra, aside from me chipping a piece of it by mishandling it) damage and the areas where I had acrylic paint have cleaned up for the most part... still have "frosted glass" elsewhere however!!  Looking more and more likely I'll be having "tinted windows" on here.  ;D

In lieu of said nail buffing system... I'm tempted to take some tooth paste and baking soda to it.. or....  wet sand with fine grit paper...then come back with Future to fill in the scratches.... or... I dunno. Trying not to have to go shopping for anything.   :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 20, 2017, 02:03:48 pm
Toothpaste (not the gel type) is good as a mild abrasive polish - essentially what the Tamiya stuff is IIRC, less the flavouring.

If you have some 1200 grit or smaller, after using that would be a good place to start with the paste.

I hasten to add I've never used the toothpaste method, but have heard of good results.

A final polish with old denim is apparently good, too.

Future is definitely a good final step.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 02:05:56 pm
New Tucano pics!!!    :laugh:


(http://i.imgur.com/I0poLBg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KOigQWQ.jpg)

I like this one! It looks nice.  :wub: :laugh:

I can't wait to make more trainers and more red/white and orange/white things like test center planes, etc.  :lol:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
Toothpaste (not the gel type) is good as a mild abrasive polish - essentially what the Tamiya stuff is IIRC, less the flavouring.

If you have some 1200 grit or smaller, after using that would be a good place to start with the paste.

I hasten to add I've never used the toothpaste method, but have heard of good results.

A final polish with old denim is apparently good, too.

Future is definitely a good final step.

Awesome...   I think at this point I don't have anything to lose... I mean... it looks BAD right now and not much I can do other than shattering it into pieces is going to make any difference. I still retain the option play with painting it black and calling it "tinted" so I'm going to use your advice and see where it gets me.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 20, 2017, 02:08:58 pm
Oops - forgot to mention to use the toothpaste with a cloth, not a toothbrush... but you wouldn't have done that anyway, right?  ;D

Nice work on the Tucano - come up really well.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 02:20:05 pm
Oops - forgot to mention to use the toothpaste with a cloth, not a toothbrush... but you wouldn't have done that anyway, right?  ;D

Nice work on the Tucano - come up really well.

LOL!  Yeah, no tooth brush... I did know that much...   ;D ;D ;D

Thanks, that lil Toucan Sam gave me fits but the end result is quite nice! As far as over-all end appearance and verisimilitude it may be my best one yet.  I like to think that it's a "good job" when one builds a model kit that looks as if it were the actual machine with a shrink ray fired at it. This one is probably the only one I've made that would start to come close to that "standard." 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 20, 2017, 06:13:28 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KOigQWQ.jpg)

Fab.  :thumbsup:

If you have any you could try automotive cutting compound on the canopy followed by automotive polish.  Don't use combined wax/polish though if you want to paint the framing.  Don't ask me how I know this.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 20, 2017, 10:30:05 pm
Huh... now that you mention it, and I think about, I do have some of that. If I can FIND it though..    ;D ;D  (and if it is still viable, this stuff sits out in the out building through years worth of summers). 

And thanks!! It's definitely fab! I want to hop inside and go for a flight.  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 21, 2017, 03:38:03 am
I have a very old tin of cutting compound which lives in my unheated/uncooled shed and which I use occasionally on model cars when I outdo myself in the realm of orange peely paint.
It separates over time with all the abrasive stuff sinking to the bottom of the tin.  A good hard stir and its good as new.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on May 21, 2017, 07:13:47 am
I can second the toothpaste method for canopies  :thumbsup:

That Tucano is tremendous  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 21, 2017, 07:17:12 am
Good to know! I hate to have to spend money on new stuff.    :thumbsup:

Tomorrow be a good day for a rummage around outside. Maybe I'll find some other stuff to use as well.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 24, 2017, 02:01:42 pm
Amazingly, I've actually been putting in work on both stalled builds....  at current things have been glued so I have to let them sit but I'm getting stuff done at least.

The f-84........   glued the wings on and ran some glue down the seems. Going to take my finest brush and run silver across the seams too to seal it all up and get rid of the "black line" that appears there now. I need to do a bit of touch up on the black then look things over then I think I can glue all the interior parts back in.. the hud/sight bit, the seat, and the rear deck.

Gave it my best shot but I'm throwing in the towel on the canopy.. we'll just have to have limo tint on there... I think it'll look fine. These canopies have this weird vinyl bracing stuff which makes em look pretty neat and of course I'm going to go back with the blue frame work so there'll be lots of stuff going on there... should look nice even though it's a lazy and less optimal way of going about it.

The Enterprise, I glued one of the broken pylons back on then ran a bead of glue around the base for reinforcement and to give me matching surfaces to sand back down on.  (if that makes sense.. )  See, a glue cluster formed at the base of one so I built up the base of the other one as well, and with the "extra" meat there hopefully I can get in there with my sanding sticks and make them both look good AND uniform without breaking one of them off again.

Also, sanding off the ridiculous raised detail....   It's either paint the crappy raised detail or use transfers.. can't use both... and the transfers will be better by FAR so I need to sand all that off.. Some of it will be tricky because this thing is TINY and some spaces are very tight and whilst others are very fragile.


OHHH....ohhh!!  ......  what's going on here??!?!?! KINKY!!!! OR is the new AWACS?!    ;D ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/1Z5jLrd.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on May 25, 2017, 05:55:21 am
Reminds me a little of a TV advert we had over here in the UK. The invading alien force landed to conquer and take over the Earth only to discover they'd got their plans wrong and that they were tiny compared to us humans, rather than the same size  :angel:  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on May 25, 2017, 03:00:55 pm
Does look like AWACS, with extra pods and an auxiliary jet on top.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 26, 2017, 01:01:41 am
Reminds me a little of a TV advert we had over here in the UK. The invading alien force landed to conquer and take over the Earth only to discover they'd got their plans wrong and that they were tiny compared to us humans, rather than the same size  :angel:  ;D

IIRC Douglas Adams has something similar in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 26, 2017, 02:56:09 am
The Lil aliens sound familiar. Sure I've seen some sci fi here and there with that theme.  ;D

The AWACS... lookin at that stuff it would seem 1/2500 TOS Enterprise saucer section and interdorsal fin could be combined and glued on top of similar sized raft as my F-84 here. I had half a mind to snap the Enterprise apart and do just that but then I came to my senses! Still... I'd like to come up with a few dirt cheap 1/2500 Enterprise kits and play around! I think an F-84 AWACS would be neato.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 26, 2017, 03:12:04 am
Why spend money on kits? With a circle cutter - or even one of the drill-mounted hole cutters - you could use some thick card and make one far cheaper and easier, and it would be flat-top and -bottomed, rather than having the Saucer Section's odd domed configuration.

Just a thought, but it would seem an easier option. Even if you had to laminate several 1mm or 2mm slices.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 26, 2017, 03:38:53 am
I ought to step my game up and try that.  I think the LHS sells this plastic card stuff and hole saws are easy enough to come by.   :lol: 

Been wanting to get to the hobby shop, too, but I'm so BROKE right now!  I  mean, I'm making money, but my business has gotten large enough to the point now where I'm starting to have to deal with the typical problems such as people that are NOT paying their bills yet I still have to pay my one employee, have had to buy $700 worth of new lawn equipment not to mention all the other overhead like fuel and bags, etc..... and then... I have to have money sitting around in case something breaks or if I need to purchase items to do something like irrigation repair. That and I'm trying to save up a few hundred to buy general liability insurance. ANYWAY!!! I hope... I HOPE that people make good on their bills and also that the checks I am expecting get here soon so I can go shopping!!   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 26, 2017, 05:53:29 pm
TBH, I'd try going to a plastic sheet supplier first - they sell the stuff by the 2.something X 1.something metre sheet, which is a lot cheaper (per square foot) than the hobby store packets.

Usually only in black or white and not the thinner stuff like .010 and .005 thou, but for those the LHS is ok IMHO, as you're using so little of it at a time that it lasts and lasts.

Just a thought.  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 26, 2017, 06:30:50 pm
TBH, I'd try going to a plastic sheet supplier first - they sell the stuff by the 2.something X 1.something metre sheet, which is a lot cheaper (per square foot) than the hobby store packets.

Usually only in black or white and not the thinner stuff like .010 and .005 thou, but for those the LHS is ok IMHO, as you're using so little of it at a time that it lasts and lasts.

Just a thought.  ;)

I love "buying in bulk" and saving money. Could you recommend an online source that supplies to the U.S.? I could buy one of them big(ger) sheets and then have plenty for when the occasion arrives.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 26, 2017, 06:41:41 pm
I usually go out in person, but if that's not an option or if you're pressed for time, a quick Goggle search found this:

https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22883&catid=715

There are probably more.

The reason I like to collect it myself, is I can cut the sheets in two to make transport easier.

HTH  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 26, 2017, 07:09:05 pm
I used to work with a plumber who used to borrow things to help persuade his debtors to pay up.
The wheels from their car for example.

Perhaps "PAY UP" in flaming letters on their lawn would help?

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 26, 2017, 07:11:10 pm
Or written on the lawn in weedkiller?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 26, 2017, 07:46:19 pm
 ;D ;D  Snatchin the wheels up...that's some gangsta @$#@%.   ;D

I'm tellin you what...   I keep a gallon sprayer of heavy duty round-up-type on hand...    ... . .feast your eyes as my penmanship suddenly improves on a macro level. . .. .  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on May 27, 2017, 01:45:19 am
It's a strange sign of success  :-\ The bigger you get then the longer your creditors take to pay, it seems to be an attitude of "they don't need it as badly as a smaller firm". Well they do, cash flow is perhaps the greatest concern of most small/medium sized businesses and of a few large ones  :banghead:

Probably teaching you to suck eggs, but a small discount for early payment ?

Best of luck anyway  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 27, 2017, 03:29:25 am
When I was a building labourer those who were the worst payers were those with the most money.
If you don't have much you plan carefully to make sure you can pay for the work being done whereas those with more would assume they could pay but then find they had cashflow problems "and can you wait until next month.  Had some unexpected expenses come up".

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 27, 2017, 07:59:42 am
^   Right?!


I think the lesson to be learned here, and one I already knew but foolishly ignored, is to collect the minute I'm done working or ... no work. Typical.. the very first time and very first person I allow to "pay me at the first of the month" goes delinquent. Just like last year when that assclown bought my mower and said he'd pay by the end of the month and then frigging 8 months later the donkey ear has only paid me $10. You just can't trust people to "pay you later." 

So, now, If you don't have the money on hand, then you can sit and spin... mow your own lawn, buy your mower from Wal-Mart, etc. I guess I wanted to test the waters and see if this would work.. but uhh... it'll be a long while before I try it again, if ever.   

Good thing is we have a contract in writing so if I wanted to... I could run this mess through small claims but I'd rather just avoid the hassle, write it off at tax time, and go on about my business. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on May 28, 2017, 04:40:54 am
I was just a monkey but if the organ grinder didn't get paid then we didn't get our peanuts.

You seem relaxed about this and not likely to do anything illegal which is the correct attitude as I doubt they let you build models in the big house.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 28, 2017, 07:56:00 am
Yeah I got bigger fish to fry. The hassle and drama of doing anything other than near nothing seems much less desirable than just writing it off.  ;D ;D ;D   I haaaaaaaaate conflict and drama. (guess who's not married.. .. . . . )   ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 03, 2017, 11:15:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/oa2N1Fn.jpg)
 ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 03, 2017, 09:04:32 pm
Being the cheap assed person I am, I can't help but love scoring (ebay) a 1/72 C-130 Hercules (for less than $17, shipping and all). It's Testors/Italeri one. Blue Angels (comes with no transfers, PERFECT!!! it's going to be a whif). All the major outside components are definitely there but I could not ascertain whether or not the clear parts are there.

They said, " As far as we know it is complete.  .  We have put all other parts in sealed or ziplock bags. "

Definitely a bag w/ the kit,  I just couldn't tell if the clear parts where in said bag. Looks can be deceiving. I've looked at other such things and it only becomes apparent that the parts ARE there once you actually lays eyes on the bag of goods. This due to clear parts blending with clear bag, other parts in the bag obscuring the clear ones,  shoddy cameras taking pics of the stuff, shoddy photography technique, you name it.

(http://i.imgur.com/CeyZQVp.png)


Anyway, here's a pic of the parts. See what I mean? I don't SEE any clear parts but then again with the clear bag, the lighting, and poor clarity I just don't know. For the price I would have gotten it anyway, though. Perhaps I may need to search out aftermarket clear pieces and I would also appreciate help with that.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 03, 2017, 10:09:12 pm
If the clear parts are actually there you shouldn't have a problem, they fit pretty well and are commendably clear (unlike some manufacturers whose name ends in '2'......)

It looks like the original owner already painted some of it as the whole thing is moulded in pale grey styrene and the main gear wheel arches in your pic look green already.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 04, 2017, 03:36:46 am
If the clear parts are missing then you could always build a model of the worlds biggest drone.

Think of it this way, worst case scenario is you've got an excellent collection of whiff spares including four turboprop engines.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 04, 2017, 09:41:57 am
I can't wait to get it...  I hope all the stuff is there. All the main components certainly are but not having glass is a deal breaker!

I'll have to revisit the idea but I made that "air show" Yak a while back and wanted to paint this thing some type of orange and white and yellow maybe, to match.. and throw some bird decals on it or something..   but now.... I'm thinking... I dunno... I'm itching to try a NMF project.  I bought some really snazzy paint and I'm going to get a bunch of good sand paper so I can try to get whatever I paint looking good.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 05, 2017, 05:14:29 am
What to do with myself??!!??!!?!?   No GB. I have two stalled builds on the bench and a "refurbish" project for an A-10 but that one involves printing my own decals which I've only just barely started to get together. I'm trying to load the entire piece of decal paper with stuff before I print it out because I'm not sure how to just print one thing, cut it out, then use the paper again in the printer. I'm sure there's a way but... I haven't looked into it. I also am having difficulty making things on the computer and then fiuring out how large they will be after being printed. I also need a better program than MS Paint. So... that's on hold (although I'd appreciate some tips and pointers on this whole process....   main points being tracking down a good paint program and how to make sure what I see on my screen will print out to be the proper size).

So anyway... I'm wanting to try to get a good NMF on something. I have an Iranian F-5 that is in NMF and should be an easy build so I'm thinking of doing that??? Not going to be a WHIF but... neat just the same, I'd say, and who doesn't want to see if a clown like myself can come up with a good NMF?!?!??!?!?   :thumbsup:

So anyway, I did a little research into what rattle can paint would work well and a lot of people mentioned this stuff, so I bought a can:

(http://i.imgur.com/BzxtLRW.jpg)

Sooooo.... yeaaaaah here we are. I've heard that gloss black is the base coat to work on, and also, that one should work their way up to about 4,000 grit sand paper whilst smoothing the plastic before hand. And polishing....      Now, how do I go about that?? I have a scrap of blue jeans denim that I was using but it seems kind of like a pain. Is it feasible to buy a Dremel Tool and use tiny little buffing wheels? They make them, right?

If there's anything else I'm missing, do tell... I'd really like to learn how to do this and make a stellar end result.

The kit:(http://i.imgur.com/GFkndsp.jpg)

Does this have raised or engraved detail? Would this be a good one for my first TRUE NMF project?  Should I choose another kit? 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 06, 2017, 05:04:45 am
Raised detail IIRC.  That is one of the three kits my dad built me which got me started off modelling.  The other two were an EE Lightning and a Fairey Battle.  Both Airfix 1/72.  He brush painted it and the Lightning with silver enamel (Airfix or Humbrol) and I still don't know how he got such a great finish.  Not shiny but smooth with no brush marks.  I couldn't do it that well, not with enamel.

What size decal paper sheets do you have?  I get Letter size and usually cut them into quarters.  Your printer should be able to cope with smaller sizes.  It might not go down to 1/4 Letter but it should handle 1/2.
I also always print two of everything "just in case" and fill spaces up with "could come in useful" stuff like numbers, zenrat industries logos and nose art.  Don't get too carried away cramming everything together though as you need to cut around your designs and that is easier if there is room between them.
I design all mine using Micro$oft Powerpoint.  I've been drawing stuff with it since the Windows 3.1 version and so i'm getting the hang of it.  Or at least I think I am and then they go and change something.
Obviously you can test print onto plain paper but at some stage you are going to have to try it out on decal paper and then you'll need to adjust your printer settings.  Chances are your printer won't have a setting for decal paper but it should have one for glossy photo paper which is close.  You might need to reduce the amount of ink it uses though if you can.

Good luck.  I can't wait to see that F5.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on June 06, 2017, 08:58:38 am
I do love your gun-shaped pencil-sharpener. WANT!!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 06, 2017, 05:09:43 pm
Thanks, Fred.. exactly the type of info I was wanting.

It's either the F-5 or the old Airfix Cessna Bird Dog.

(http://i.imgur.com/MLlbkHp.jpg)

In light of what you have told me, and my own penchant for the Freedom Fighter, I think I'm going to go ahead and proceed with the F-5. The paint ain't here yet but that's kind of good.. you know.. gives me time to actually work on this thing and get it smooth and all that.

(Oh yes.. I just opened it up, looked at the transfers, saw the plastic in the bag and was hooked.. I gotta build it.. )

I need to find a series of sand paper.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 06, 2017, 05:42:03 pm
I do love your gun-shaped pencil-sharpener. WANT!!
;D

Not mine, unfortunately. Just funny pic I saw. But maybe you knew that or not, I didn't make it clear.. but yeah someone posted that on a FB modeling page.  ;D

I do enjoy my firearms, though! I have a "nothing but business" Mossberg 590A pump 12 guage that is a mean feller, then my sidearm which goes nearly everywhere I do is an ATI Berreta M9 clone (made in same factory on same machines with same parts and materials, etc.)  But, my prized "piece" is one I inherited when my pops died 4 years ago (oddly enough, today is his birthday... or was... whatever..)   It's a 1977 Browning 9mm with custom made grips. Worth quite a damn bit by itself..not sure what the custom grips add. I keep it tucked away and clean as a whistle. I haven't even fired it yet.

(http://i.imgur.com/9Sr43PP.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VJxeFVw.jpg)

Pops.. he started out in the USAF then reinlisted with the Army then did stuffo like Rangers, Airborne, and Green Beret (special forces).  Served time in the cluster known as "Korea."






Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 08, 2017, 11:33:00 am
CHANGE 'o PLAN!!!


OK, so the F-5 kit is a right dog, & I'm not wanting all that.. I'm trying to focus on the paint finish, not filling in sink marks, ejection pin marks, and trying to reinvent the wheel to get things to fit together so this lil feller is going back on the shelf.

Anyone know anything about the lil Bird Dog? Mine is the 1981 boxing so not sure if that is good (closer to being a new tool) or if that is already far enough down the line that the molds were suffering. I think I'll start looking around for reviews but if anyone here knows about it, then by all means...

I just want something that goes together hassle free so I can spend time on the paint job, not construction...   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on June 08, 2017, 01:25:56 pm
I've only fired a real gun once...funning about with border guards years ago in Venezuela. Some machine gun. They did warn me but I nearly took my arm out of its socket when I pulled the trigger. Did manage to knock some mangoes out of the tree though ;D The noise is incredible...only time I've ever heard the right sound from Hollywood was during "Heat" (DeNiro/Kilmer).
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 08, 2017, 01:56:23 pm
Ohh man, I'm envious! I bet that was a blast.   :lol: :lol:



In other news, seems like this Bird Dog kit is a tough cookie like the F-5....   

Time to re-visit the stash to either find another OOB build with a NMF or perhaps find a kit that is a dream to build that I can WHIF into one having a NMF...... 

I have this one f-16 kit that comes with Norweigian decorations that are boring as piss. Who ever seen a NMF F-16?! Could be cool. Maybe I could do a retro thing. Maybe re-create a WWII eara Mustang livery on it or a 50's/60's Century Series get up or something. :::shrug::::

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 08, 2017, 03:34:12 pm
I've only fired a small automatic pistol so far, which belonged to my grandpa, don't remember what it was but it was a pocket size thing. Believe it or not, my dad showed me how to do it and then let me fire it at some trees... i was around 6 or 7 years old, can't remember that detail very well... I do remember that afternoon vividly because i was always fascinated by weapons... it was good fun, but i've never had a real desire to own one, and i wasn't accepted into military service because of the steel rod in my left tibia (bmx backflip gone wrong, broke both fibula and tibia), so i never got a chance to shoot anything else.
Now, the NMF viper would be very cool, how about the Blue nose Bs scheme of the 352nd fighter group?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 09, 2017, 03:16:32 pm
Bad news, bro.......  .Me poor viper!!!! It's front section is busted off. LAME! I'd have to do a nasty repair job on it.  :dalek: :dalek:  I guess the parts sustained trauma at some point. An easy enough fix, to be sure, but I'm wanting oddball things going on under the paint, no matter how smooth I manage to get it it. At least not in an area such as where the break is at. Along wing roots or other borders or joing areas, or seams, sure, but not a splotch in the middle of a "field" of plastic.

So much for that idea. Back to the drawing board. Definitely going to revisit the idea however, and I like the idea of the blue nose. Homie don't do repair work this time around. Homie just focuses on the paint finish. I think I'll do the Viper in pre war Army colors.... blue fuselage, yellow wings, big ol fin flash and the good ol' wagon wheel roundels. To hell with the $50 Hasegawa sheet of decals. I can make my own with some I've already ordered so I can do a Texan (Harvard) the same way. Will look like this (for the most part. . . . ) but cost ~$40 less. (http://i.imgur.com/PKAsFJH.jpg)

I thought about doing an F-100F but my kit has bad glass....  if I could get ahold of an aftermarket canopy set I'd do it but cheapest one I found was in excess of $10.

Focus now turns to Mitsubishi Nippon Go 'Yamato. '

'(http://i.imgur.com/Zq3NwWu.jpg)

It meets a lot of my criteria:
                                             Seems to be accurate enough as of now (still researching), although rivets...are these the type that are too big that I often hear about?
                                             Recessed detail.
                                             Transfers seem to be good to go
                                             No kinky detail that makes sanding a pain in my butthole
                                             Seems relatively simple and doesn't have 8 billion parts :thumbsup:


So next up grab a couple slices of pie. (The pizza variety!!!!) And get back to reading up on this kit. If it isn't a disaster then we're a go. Once I get that knocked out I'll either have to begin my search again for a different kit or I'll be done with research for now and can start building. The chance also exists that I might start working on that T-2 Texan, instead......

(http://i.imgur.com/fZlZTQU.jpg)

I hope I'm not the only one around here that absolutely loves this color scheme....     I also have a B-17 build planned in these colors...... maybe I could do all three at the same time... or the Viper and Fortress at the same time at least after I'm sure my colors are right. . . . In which case, I'll do the Texan (Harvard) first and separately.

Later all..




                                               

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kitnut617 on June 09, 2017, 04:46:28 pm

In light of what you have told me, and my own penchant for the Freedom Fighter, I think I'm going to go ahead and proceed with the F-5.


I've a book on the CF-116 (Canadair built F-5) and the last chapter in it is all about what models you can get. Surprisingly, it reckons the Airfix F-5 is very accurate although a bit basic.  I had an opportunity to work on a real CF-116 some years ago (one that is now on display at The Military Museum in Calgary). The real aircraft's major parts actually get assembled just like how you build the kit.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 09, 2017, 04:55:54 pm
Dang... well, that pre-war scheme is a beauty too... then again, the Viper looks good in any scheme so i'll be waiting...  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2017, 05:48:51 pm
Have you opened up the Mitsubishi box as IME those LS kits (and those knocked out of the same moulds - Arii etc)  tend not to have much raised detail.  Certainly nothing like the Airfix F-5 or Bird Dog.
The Bird Dog BTW is a lovely little kit.  It'll need a bit of joint fettling but it turns out nice.  It's also got whiffabilities such as tricycle undercarriage, low wings, biplane, engine transplant, floats...
(https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/full_size_0352/1527806-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 09, 2017, 11:39:55 pm

I had an opportunity to work on a real CF-116 some years ago (one that is now on display at The Military Museum in Calgary). The real aircraft's major parts actually get assembled just like how you build the kit.


I bet you used glue by the tanker-load, didn't you Robert?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2017, 03:09:55 am
Have you opened up the Mitsubishi box as IME those LS kits (and those knocked out of the same moulds - Arii etc)  tend not to have much raised detail.

I'd second that. They had a suprising amount of finesse for the time  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 10, 2017, 03:23:33 am
Have you opened up the Mitsubishi box as IME those LS kits (and those knocked out of the same moulds - Arii etc)  tend not to have much raised detail.

I'd second that. They had a suprising amount of finesse for the time  :thumbsup:

Babs went together a treat and so far i've had no trouble with Dinah.  I've had a rummage through Nell's parts but not put anything together yet.  The current boxings (HLJ lists them as Microace but they say Arii on the box) also have the advantage of being nicely affordable at around $AU5 to $AU14 from Hobby Link Japan. (https://hlj.com/search/go?af=selectseries%3Amicroace172aircraft)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 10, 2017, 03:27:07 am
Im impressed all to hell with the LS Nippon Go thingy. Yeah, I've looked at the stuff a bit... looks nice for its age. So much so that I picked up a second kit to do in the green/yellow, etc version for the Japanese military. I think I'm going going to run with it. I couldn't seem to dig up any dirt on it....

You know, thinking back to the Airfix F-5A.  So many people were saying it was a dog, but then again I've heard the same about other kits that I turned around and built anyway that turned out to be a dream to build, and not because I skipped over fixing things, either. Maybe I should go ahead and open up the parts bag and take a closer look at all the parts and do some dry fitting.

I appreciate all the feedback, I'll get to where I need to be in due time with great help like this! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2017, 03:28:37 am
The current boxings (HLJ lists them as Microace but they say Arii on the box) also have the advantage of being nicely affordable at around $AU5 to $AU14 from Hobby Link Japan. (https://hlj.com/search/go?af=selectseries%3Amicroace172aircraft)

Good to know mate. I feel a nostalgia trip coming on  :thumbsup:

Can't work out if you are up late or early ?  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 10, 2017, 03:41:53 am
The current boxings (HLJ lists them as Microace but they say Arii on the box) also have the advantage of being nicely affordable at around $AU5 to $AU14 from Hobby Link Japan. (https://hlj.com/search/go?af=selectseries%3Amicroace172aircraft)

Good to know mate. I feel a nostalgia trip coming on  :thumbsup:

Can't work out if you are up late or early ?  ;)

Current time is 2036 Satyrday 10th June.  Mrs z and I are relaxing in front of the idiot's lantern following a feast of takeaway pizza.  We are currently 9 hours ahead of you (it goes up to 11 at certain times of year) ,meaning you'll be thinking about lunch.

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Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2017, 03:55:14 am
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Can't work out if you are up late or early ?  ;)

Current time is 2036 Satyrday 10th June.  Mrs z and I are relaxing in front of the idiot's lantern following a feast of takeaway pizza.  We are currently 9 hours ahead of you (it goes up to 11 at certain times of year) ,meaning you'll be thinking about lunch.
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Right. Just having a bacon roll actually  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2017, 05:44:12 am

I had an opportunity to work on a real CF-116 some years ago (one that is now on display at The Military Museum in Calgary). The real aircraft's major parts actually get assembled just like how you build the kit.


I bet you used glue by the tanker-load, didn't you Robert?  ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 10, 2017, 02:28:48 pm
I've only fired a small automatic pistol so far, which belonged to my grandpa, don't remember what it was but it was a pocket size thing. Believe it or not, my dad showed me how to do it and then let me fire it at some trees... i was around 6 or 7 years old, can't remember that detail very well... I do remember that afternoon vividly because i was always fascinated by weapons... it was good fun, but i've never had a real desire to own one, and i wasn't accepted into military service because of the steel rod in my left tibia (bmx backflip gone wrong, broke both fibula and tibia), so i never got a chance to shoot anything else.
Now, the NMF viper would be very cool, how about the Blue nose Bs scheme of the 352nd fighter group?  :thumbsup:

What a coincidence. I was browsing a new web store based in China called "DIMETSTORE.TOP"  and they have a bunch of models. Just so happend I spooted a  Blue Nosed Bee Tamiya P-51D!  $5 so I snagged it. SO........ when the day comes that I DO make this silvery Warbird throwback, I'll have the proper transfers!! I can turn the Mustang into something else......  Actually, you know what, I'd LOVE to do one that has the two tone grey USAF scheme with contemporary markings, etc. A simple swapping of transfers and paint schemes between the kits would be the ticket, and do them side by side as a pair. 

That said, I just considered another option for that scheme... I have the new tool RoG F-22 Raptor in 1/72.......... . . ..  I kind of think the Viper might look better but this Raptor might look good in 'Stang dress...   Just kind of wondering if there is enough room on the fuselage for the markings. I guess the same problem exists for the F-16, however. They don't quite have the nice "flat-ish" broad side as the Mustangs.

But anyway... just thought I'd mention another contender.  I still think I'd rather go with the F-16 and the F-16 seems more like a modern version of a Mustang than the Raptor anyway..

Now, time to sit down and inspect this F-5A!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 10, 2017, 03:10:48 pm
Oh my goodness... definitely not messing with this. I don't even need to look at anything more the fitment, the mold, the SIZE, the..... everything... about this nose piece is ATROCIOUS. The whole thing is drastically wider than the fuselage!!!!! Not only that, but the interior would need to be wallowed out because it sits left of centerline... so... the right side half lines up with the fuselage then on the left side there is a huge step. This OVERHANG measures.075mm, so, in real world this would translate to 54 friggin millimeters!  You could see it from across the room!   :-\ :-\ :-\   Poor lil feller the mold didn't age well at all.

OK, seeing as how the Tamiya P51D is coming from China, from a place I've never dealt with before, I'm going to assume that it will either take no less than two weeks to get here, OR, may not arrive at all, so, that rules out working on the F-22 as far as I'm concerned.  So that does it.. I'm just going to get started on the Mitsubishi Civil "Nell" and go for the gusto. It ought to be a pretty sweet build anyway and I haven't done a single Japanese craft since I start building again a year ago.
 :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 11, 2017, 10:09:31 am
Brad, quick suggestion for F-5 kits, either the Italeri(raised panel lines) or the Hobbyboss kit(recessed panel lines), these are the most available and cheapest kits i could find.
Re the BNBs F-22, that has been done in real life, check this out: https://goo.gl/images/O3rZXS
It's not NMF but still looks good, IMHO. I also have the RoG mold kit in the stash, very nice kit! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2017, 04:12:55 am
Brad, quick suggestion for F-5 kits, either the Italeri(raised panel lines) or the Hobbyboss kit(recessed panel lines), these are the most available and cheapest kits i could find.
Re the BNBs F-22, that has been done in real life, check this out: https://goo.gl/images/O3rZXS
It's not NMF but still looks good, IMHO. I also have the RoG mold kit in the stash, very nice kit! :thumbsup:

That raptor is sweet!! I love the splash of color on there. Now it's THREE TONE!!  Now I really want to do a swap. I'm going with the Viper though. Mustang and Viper... I just need to get the Mustang here. I've mentioned in the past how apprehensive I am ordering things from Asia. So far, with model kit stuff, none of it has gotten lost. That said, I've always ordered via Ebay. This new store... I dunno....   There's no apparent way to track the package.

But anyway...   I might have a look around eBay and see if I can get that Mustang there in the interim then when the other shows up.... I can just throw it in the stash. Can't really have too many Mustangs I guess... Lord knows I have a billion F-4s... seems like every lot I get off eBay has a Phantom in it. lol

I think I'll get started on the civil "Nell" today.  THAT IS.... UNLESS..... (speaking of ordering stuff from Asia) I get my Shin Kazama F-20 in from Japan. Seems like it's been about the right amount of time that things have arrived in the past. About 2 weeks. Ordered it May 28th so... yeah we're right at two weeks so maybe it will be here today!!!!  Pretty sure the Herky-Bird will be here today, as well, and I can't wait to look at that stuff... especially to see if the clear parts made it with the kit.

Last bit of business... while I'm working on this civil Nell, I think I'll try to fit in bits and pieces of work on my two shelf of doom projects. I said I would get those done after the GBs were done. I actually did some work on both, in fact, but now here I am trying to skip them to do this Mitsubishi. I'll do like I have in the past.... even if it's only minor, so long as I accomplish SOME phase of work on them both, I'll feel better about putting them down to work on the Nell.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2017, 04:22:06 am
I saw this today and thought of you.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/Model%20Expo%202017/Model%20Expo%202017%2023_zps8sqqdw6a.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/Model%20Expo%202017/Model%20Expo%202017%2023_zps8sqqdw6a.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2017, 04:26:40 am
Ohhhhh yeaaaah! I like it!   :wub:

It's the C Fury! C for Cooba!!  Viva le Revolucion!

I've been keeping my eyes peeled for a Sea fury on eBay... when I find one dirt cheap it'll be on its way to my house. I want to make it some weird presidential escort.  Mega Patriotic Cuban Flag livery or something.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2017, 05:17:59 am
You got PM Brad C

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2017, 08:40:12 am
Rec'd, thanks!

In other news.... Herky Bird arrived and as I suspected, NO GLASS!!   :banghead:  "Complete as far as I know!!"   Yeah, sure, you know damn well the clear parts ain't in there.....  I guess that's why no one else would bid on it. But, I couldn't tell if they were in that bag or not!! Next time I'll just ASK. So anyway, I won't raise a stink... I'll give them a good feedback rating and all that, but I need to stop just assuming things and ask questions. This has happened before... I get a great deal on a kit only to find I'm going to have to shell out on aftermarket stuff just to make them complete...   sometimes I would have been better off paying more on the front end.  Not sure, this time.. the kit was $8. Shipped was another $8.72.... so for less than $17 I have a 1/72 Hercules! Not bad and the kit itself has accuracy issues but I'm whiffing the thing anyway so I don't really care... it's just... THE GLASS!  I'll figure out something.. I'm not seeing any aftermarket things for this. I found some Eduard set that comes with a bunch of stuff and the picture shows the clear parts but........that doesn't mean they come with it. This is mainly like.... seats, seat belts, and painted PE so probably not.

Anyway.. to hell with the carpet monster, I want to meet this clear parts monster. I'm guessing, people take the clear parts and put them into another container of some sort then store them elsewhere then years later when the kits are passed along, the clear parts aren't with them. In my mind it doesn't make sense to separate things. I will generally wrap them in tissue and put them in their own baggie but I always put the baggie back in the kit box. :::SHRUG:::  I'm in no hurry to build this thing so I'm not too worried.. if there is an aftermarket option out there, I'll find it eventually. I may even get ahold of Italeri and or Testors to see if there is a way to order the clear parts sprue.

Oh well, I'm going to go start up a batch of fish and chips... well... fish and hush puppies, then I'm going to start on this Mitsubishi Nipples Go plane!!  I wonder where my paint is?!?!?!  Ohhhhhhhh I see, it's in Dallas. Well then, it'll be here tomorrow then. Or the next day at latest. Sweet! I can't wait to try that stuff.


 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2017, 10:07:39 am
Times like these my ADHD or whatever it's called these days really shines through. I can't seem to make up my mind about what to do next.  ;D That's not entirely a bad thing because it means I have OPTIONS at least!  &lt;_&lt;

SO ANYWAY, I decided to get under way with this Mitsubishi Nipples Go airplane but reading through the instructions (which are quite nice, for their time, but suffer hilariously through translation... I absolutely adore the funny mishaps in the instructions on these but it doesn't exactly help matters... . .. ) it would seem I need to do all kinds of sawing and drilling and all this mess so I'm contemplating, again, on doing something different. There's not a whole lot of this sawing/drilling, but then again.... ehhhh....  :unsure:

So, I came up with this plan...   I'm in the mood for cleaning up and organizing my living space and thus my kit collection and work area. I always say that the time to strike on this type of thing is when one is highly motivated to do so and it seems "fun." Cleaning and organizing doesn't always seem "fun" so when it does, may as well take advantage of it. SO, I think I'll spend a couple hours doing this.... and whilst I do so, I can keep my eyes peeled for another kit that would work with NMF. If I don't find one... it's back to this thing. OR, maybe I'll start on the Texan/Harvard?   We'll see!  Who knows, I may wind up doing neither and dedicating completely to the shelf of doom stuff.....
 
:o :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2017, 03:05:13 pm
Well, got carried away with all the cleaning and organizing, and not done yet, so I won't be WORKING on any models today. That said, things are shaping up around here and that's well worth the time I spent. There will be other days to work on model kits and when I do, it will be pleasing to do so within nice surroundings.

Got some other kits in. A Heller 1/72 Cloudmaster and a C-46 Commando by Williams Bros, also 1/72. How neat!!! Eyeballing a 1/72 Boeing 707 airliner but uhhh....  I need to try to sit on my hands and leave that alone. I want it so bad but I need to save my money in case I need to pay for an irrigation job. I have to buy all the parts and stuff, then send the bill, then finally get paid a month later. If I don't have the money on hand to actually pay for stuff, then I can't do the jobs, and then can't make any money. I just hope nothing breaks within the next couple of weeks.

In other news... anyone ever seen an NMF V-22 Osprey?!?!?   ;D   (still going through stuff)  :lol:  Another thing I was wondering about... I'm trying to find a kit with recessed panel lines so that I can do a bunch of sanding going from coarse to very fine sand paper (the stuff I've been reading about achieving a good NMF suggests that getting a really nice smooth surface via sanding in this fashion helps a lot). Anyway, I have an old Heller f-86.... I even bought really nice after market transfers for it about 8 months ago.....  BUT, it has raised detail. I'm apprehensive about this because I'm not sure how to sand without either deleting some of said details or leaving gaps around the detail after sanding. Am I worrying for nothing? Is there I way I can sand on this if I'm careful and not erase the detail and also not leave parts of it un sanded near the raised areas???  Should I just go for it or what? I don't think I'm ever going to make my mind up on this.  :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 12, 2017, 08:27:09 pm
I've nothing better to do at the moment so I may as well come here and chat a bit.

 I was following the eBay auction of that 707 I wanted (Heller 1/72 Boeing 707! )  . No doubt I was left in the dust, it finally went for just shy of $70!!!  Oh well, someone else can have it and I hope they build it!!  I definitely would build that bad boy but it would have been awhile I think, other projects on my mind.. . .. Either way, I wasn't going to pay no $70 or even $50 for it. If I could have picked it up for $30 or less then I would have sacrificed my hot dogs and nachos budget. (funny thing since I haven't had hot dogs in a month and it's been years since nachos.. . . )

Oh well!!!!  Piss on that noise.. I keep blowing money on this stuff and I totally shouldn't.  ;D ;D    NO MATTER.   Even though it's egregious, I still have my eye on a few more kits....  I swear.....  once I get these auctions done with I will close the eBay tab and get back to reality..   I just can't pass these kits up!!!!!!!!!!!   I found a frikken HUSTLER TRAINER.  I also found a Cousteua PBY....... .. . a Stratofreigther....some four engined Japanese bomber, an Aurora Starlifter... , an E2A, etc...      There's not enough $$$$$ on the planet for all the kits I want to buy.

Probably going to let most of this stuff go by because I simply don't have the money, BUT,  I'm going to try to get some of these and I KNOW I want the Hustler Trainer....  Wow, this person that is listing all this stuff came across an estate collection....  the kits off in here.....   :wub: :wub: :wub: If I could only hit the lotto. .. .
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 13, 2017, 10:31:17 am
Brad, re the clear parts for the Herc, there's the Testors clear parts cement and window maker, maybe you can give that a go. Although i've never tried it, i0ve read lots of stuff and it seems to be very good for that. Look it up and read some reviews or test articles about it to see if it could work for you.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 13, 2017, 11:39:45 am
Will do!! I've seen that stuff before at the store and considered getting some but I always just use PVA or the "blue" colored (less volatile) model cement to glue on my canopies.  I'll look into that this afternoon and see what I can dig up because I'm not really seeing much of anything in the way of aftermarket stuff, thats for sure!! 

In other news, still watching this estate sale.... Some of them went beyond what I'm will to spend so I closed the tabs on this but I'm still in the running for the cousteau PBY (man this thing looks cool.. )  and the Hustler... If NOTHING else I want the Hustler. I want it bad..   

In other other news..... it's time to get back to modeling!!!!! I'm not entirely finished organizing my kits and stuff but.... I've lost the motivation and I'm not one that's into forcing myself to do something I don't want to do. I am, however, ready for the challenge of BUILDING!  :laugh:   But where the hell is my paint?!   lol    I was hoping it would be here this morning but it's not.. so I suppose it will be here tomorrow... not like I need it right now.. just kind of funny because I want to get it to... I guess.... hold it or something. Whatever.   ;D ;D

Oh crap, you know what, I just realized I forgot the other half of the paint equation....  the gloss black. I'll stop by Wal Mart Thursday and grab some. While I'm there I can play "spot the crackhead" and pick up a few groceries.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 13, 2017, 12:43:32 pm
WELL HERE WE GO AGAIN.  ;D

I'm pretty certain I'm just going to stick with what the instructions say, but, I keep looking at pictures and other models of this plane and no two seem to have the same color of wheel wells and gear doors.. lol    One has them white, the instructions say to use green, another has them blue..... .... . ...    :banghead: ;D ;D   Sometimes I wonder why I bother with research at all, I should just make a paint color dart board and throw darts at it.  ;D

Looked at the some stuff on the window maker. Looks pretty handy but I'm not so sure it's up to the task of bridging the huge gap in the face of the Herky bird. The windows and glazing are all one piece so there's just a big open void in the plastic... so...     going to have to come up with another options. I just won't be able to make it stretch across the void and also won't have much luck creating the frame work.  I had a bit of an idea... it might take months but I bet, eventually, I could probably find a junkyard lot of old crappy model kits in disrepair and I could probably come across a C-130 eventually then I might have the clear parts I need!  :thumbsup:

Last but not least, I'm working on the kit! Painting interior and the pilots and stuff.  &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 13, 2017, 04:58:56 pm
I have completely lost track of my smart phone that I take pictures with.  :-\   I've looked all over the place... I don't have a clue what happened to it.  I'm ready to show you all what I've been working on, and I've gotten a lot done today, but I guess I'll have to try to use my ancient flip phone. It has a camera that does decent but it doesn't put out very large pictures (large enough though, I think!!) and I have problems syncing it with my computer. I'm going to try though.

This kit is going together well! The one thing I lament, however, is that there is no way to put the clear parts in later so I will have to MASK all these windows.  Oh well, I'll view it as an opportunity to get better at it so what the heck, why not!  ;D  I might be able to do the main cockpit glass at the end however... and that will save a lot of time.

The fitment on this thing is nice!!  What a great little kit.... I haven't had to perform any surgery yet to get things together. No flash on anything (aside from the pilot figures) either. The TIRES are molded in black plastic!! Brilliant!! I'll have to see how well the tired halves go together, I may not even have to do anything to the seams and may not have to paint them at all.

Anyway! I'll be back soon with pictures.  (or.... at some point) 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 13, 2017, 07:35:30 pm
I'm having a ton of fun blogging right now....    sometimes I ain't got builds going on or I'd rather talk about what's happening on eBay. It's so cool that WIM has this blog section so we can just talk about stuff.

Anyway..... here's the current goings on!! I decided against using my flip phone for photography at this time. Why is that, you might ask? It's my business phone and at the moment I AM CLOSED FOR BUSINESS. If I turn that damn thing on it means I will have to read, listen to, and respond to all the crap on it. I'm on a day or two break right now and I'll have none of that. I made my schedule and contacted everyone I need to.... only people that would call or text me now are ones that either will have to wait or they are simply full of crap. Like ol' boy that owes me money. If I had a dollar for every excuse from this dude about my money I wouldn't worry about money. I'd be rich. Anyway....

The reason I am here now is to warn people about their model kit stash. Either this thing came along with one of the kits I purchased recently, or, he was hiding in MY stash the whole time.. but... I unearthed a Fiddleback spider today (brown recluse) and them things ain't nothin' to toy with, jack. Creepy part was I was all hunkered down and digging through this area a couple hours prior..only to come back and see this fiddleback just chilling on some bubble wrap I had laying on the floor.  NOT COOL.  Anyway, my public service announcement is to be careful looking through old stacks of kits that may have been sitting for awhile... a prime location for things like a brown recluse spider. Get bit by one of those and it's a guaranteed trip to the doctor in the least and at most people have died, lost limbs, etc.  I ALREADY don't like spiders.. then to find this thing today... GUHHHH...

Anyhow, the eBay stuff!!!  Sure as anything, the KC-97A I was watching went for a fair amount more than I was willing to spend, but then I turned around and got an E2A Hawkeye for $9. Same dude with the estate sale with the Hustler I want...  there's a couple others, too, so I plan to win at least a couple more to get cheaper shipping. I want te Cousteau thing and the Hustler at least....
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 14, 2017, 05:18:37 am


The reason I am here now is to warn people about their model kit stash. Either this thing came along with one of the kits I purchased recently, or, he was hiding in MY stash the whole time.. but... I unearthed a Fiddleback spider today (brown recluse) and them things ain't nothin' to toy with, jack. Creepy part was I was all hunkered down and digging through this area a couple hours prior..only to come back and see this fiddleback just chilling on some bubble wrap I had laying on the floor.  NOT COOL.  Anyway, my public service announcement is to be careful looking through old stacks of kits that may have been sitting for awhile... a prime location for things like a brown recluse spider. Get bit by one of those and it's a guaranteed trip to the doctor in the least and at most people have died, lost limbs, etc.  I ALREADY don't like spiders.. then to find this thing today... GUHHHH...



 :o :o :o :o

Glad you avoided it
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 14, 2017, 07:30:21 am
You're tellin' me!! The only thing worse than seeing a spider like that is NOT seeing a spider like that.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2017, 04:18:48 am
MAaaaaaan... I wake up this morning and instantly and broadsided by more and more excuses from this douchebag that owes me money. This stuff really hampers my day. I'd rather this dude shove off instead of having me in a perpetually anxious and stressed out state....  every time I get another round of excuses, I know it's likely to be BS, but I'm obligated to TRY to recover my money so that means more sitting around, waiting, back and forth on the damn phone, and just a general over all feeling of frustration and wasting time. It's not just the loss of my money now but the loss of time and the hundreds of texts and found calls are costing me money, too..... just ridiculous. I so damned tired of it.

Anyway.. I hope I find my phone today. I have a failing memory in some instances and I can't recall where I last had it. I last remember grabbing it to take to work with me and haven't seen it since. I'd think it was floatin' 'round in my work truck somewhere but I've looked a few times already. Starting to think someone "nicked" it or something or..... something.. I dunno...      I've also been trying to so clean up around here so it could be sitting off in a model kit box somewhere or something.   ;D ;D   Oh well, I'm going to give my other one a chance later. It's just, last time, it seemed to take an act of congress to get my lapttop to recognize it long enough to transfer files.  :rolleyes:

The eBay safari is still under way... the 228-200 and the B-54 bother went out of my price range but I was able to get the TB-58A Hustler trainer.  That's the one I wanted most!   Looking at two more, with two alternates. One is some 4 enginged Japanese bomber... called a  Renzan.. the other is the Jacques Costeau PBY. Seeing as how ol' boy won't pay me my money and I've already dipped into my overhead I haven't been able to get nearly what I've wanted to get but oh well! Being broke kind of sucks so I'm not too torn up about it.   ;D

I have to mow my gargantuan lawn today but I'm hoping work and all my errands run long today so that I have the excuse to skip it. Going to be about 100 degrees and it typical takes 4 hours on average (not counting breaks and stuff that I have to take to keep from killing myself.... add a couple hours for these) so there's no way I could finish it without being in the heat anyway. I may compromise and just do the front or at least spray some weeds. I have a few areas that I don't cut, I just kill... so I could at least do that then I can say, "Well, hey, I got started on it at leasst!"  Point being is I'm lookiing forward to gettting back to work on the Nipples Go. I got my paint in yesterday, too!!  Going to be doing some readin and research and stuff. I need to go buy a can of primer, gloss black, and a bunch of sand paper. 

TTYL!   
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2017, 09:53:24 am
Got some primer, paint, and sand paper. The sand paper is a range that goes up to 2500. That should be good enough right?? I remember seeing one fellow talking about using 4000 but then another that stopped at 2000 and both said they had good results.

They had some weird $7 sanding... pad type thing at the store that was 3000 grite... not like a normal pad but it was almost like a thick piece of cloth. I felt on it and it was smoother than my t-shirt. And this is supposed to sand? I suppose so.. I mean... I believe it but it's smoother than... like... I dunno.. it was really smooth and soft... like I said, smother and softer than my shirt but then again my shirt isn't designed for sanding things and 3M stuff is and is top notch stuff so.. I dunno. I think 2500 should be just fine though. $7 is too much in my mind,, the range of paper I got was less than $4.

I had another (not so) strange thought after getting home with this paint. The gloss black says it has primer with it. Well, that gives me pause... now all of a sudden I'd rather test it on something before I commit to spraying it on this bird. Just so happens I have a North Korean night bomber Yak 18 thingy and the 1952 version is supposed to be ALL BLACK. Over all... nothing to mask, nothing to brush... the whole entire thing is just black. Now, was it glossy black? Probably not (I'll look into it later). Either way, if it's not, I can tone it down with a matte clear afterward or, gasp, just leave it glossy because i'm I've glossed the hell out of stuff that was supposed to be matte anyway (think back to the F/U-2 HAWK in SEA camo... ).  This is supposed to be historically accurate but who wants to bet that no one probably ACTUALLY knows what type of finish the thing had anyway?! 

Long story short, this could and should be a really fast build so I might cease production on the Nipples Go and dive into this Yak 18 so I can test the paint. I could always do the test on my test bed plane but...  naaaaah..... if I'm going to go to all the effort of making the finish GOOD then it may as well be on something permanent!  No major loss if it doesn't come out right and it won't be a "wasted effort" so to speak.

Oh!! And I found my phone!  :laugh: :laugh:  Thank God!!! It worked its way between the seats and was sitting in that open space behind them.  :thumbsup:

This is my boxing of the kit....    the ones with the crappy digital art (Or is it painted?  If so, I'm not a fan of the "style" )...   Not a travesty I guess but the painted stuff is better IMO.

(http://i.imgur.com/hbwFmwO.jpg)
I think this is the dark green 1950 version.

Here's the painted box art:

(http://i.imgur.com/awFmhpW.jpg)

I know which one I prefer!  :thumbsup:  I see ribs on the fuselage...  could that mean this was at least partially cloth covered?  I don't imagine it would be glossy if so! ohh well1   ;D


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2017, 10:24:09 am
BAAAAH. Nevermind.  ;D   This lil feller has all KINDS of flash. Looks like a super easy build though! I haven't popped open the bag to dry fit so I have no idea, could be problems there, too. I'm just going to keep going with the Mitsubishi. Heck, I said it, itself, is a bit of a test anyway to see how good I can get a NMF with rattle cans so.......the gloss black is all part of that process. If I keep going I'll be doing tests for my tests.  :rolleyes:  I'm sure the black paint will be fine...   it's Kyrlon, by the way. I opted to stay away from the Rustoleum 2X because I seem to already spray too much in a pass without the "double coverage." Seems like the same problem might creep up with this stuff anyway because of the "with primer" aspect. I was wanting a simple gloss black with no frills. Next time I reac the can more thoroughly! I contemplated just buying the Tamiya gloss black. Heard lots of good things but the cheapo in me has trouble shelling out SO MUCH for what looks like little tiny cans. ::shrug:: 

Anyway! Here's proof that I have been working on it and not just blowing smoke up all y'alls skirts.  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/2fwi2G8.jpg)
Now..... just what in tarnation is ol' boy in the back there up to?! Is the pilot needing a back rub?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2017, 11:28:31 am
Ohhhh crap... lol    I KNEW IT! Murphy's law.. here I am blowing my overhead on model kits when my sub contractor people up in OKC called me..... talking about getting a list of irrigation work together for me.   ;D ;D ;D   THIS IS WHAT I GET. I knew better than to spend that money especially when I'm having trouble collecting from my customers!!!!  ACH!  But then.... check this out... they said they would supply me with a bunch of parts and stuff... WHEW!!!  Thank God... that means I won't have to run out and buy 'em out of pocket. My heart skipped a beat there for a minute.  ;D ;D   Lesson learned, though...... buying insurance killed me and I was sad that I would have to wait another entire month before I could buy model stuff.   :-\ I couldn't help myself. I've done stuff like this before, mind you, it's a pesky bad habit.  :rolleyes: ;D  .I'm safe for now but I need to watch this stuff in the future.

Anyway!!!  glued the fuselage halves together on this little jewel....  I'm going to find some sub assemblies to work on now...I can do the landing gear and maybe a couple other things then it's time to paint the cockpit glass. I picked up a tube of silver and also gold acrylic water based last time I was at the LHS so I'm wanting to try the silver on the frame work. It won't match the rattle can paint I bought but any means but being in the middle of all the glass, it won't matter. On that note, I won't be painting the landing gear struts and stuff because they are molded in silver... being down below in shadows and up in there the "difference" won't matter.. they'll look just fine. Not like I'd want a mirror-type finish on that mess anyway.

Maaaan, this canopy has like 67 trillion little frame pieces. I have the shakes right now (I know this because of the LOUSY bead work I just did on the fuselage halves) so I may forego that little project. Hopefully eating lunch will help with that problem, though, so I may try later if the shakes subside. A combination of waiting so long to eat and all the coffee I drank this morning doesn't make good for painting!   Been up since 4 AM and it's 1:30 PM now.. haven't had a single bite to eat until 10 minutes ago. Seems I have more than one bad habit!  :o ;D

As an aside... why is it kit manufacturers so often insist that we glue on tiny little fiddly tedious fragile parts early on in the build? So much of this stuff makes multitudes more sense to glue on at the very end. I've already collected a small baggie full of such parts. The pitot tube, the circular radio antenna, the landing light and glass housing, the tail wheel, and probably a few others still to come. Why risk repeatedly breaking this stuff off, not to mention it being totally in the way of sanding and painting? I suppose back in the day when a lot of this stuff was first made not a lot of mind was paid to things like sanding and perfecting the body work but even in the days when these were considered more toys for kids than anything it would STILL make more sense to glue that stuff on last. ::::shrug:::: :unsure:
 

;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Captain Canada on June 15, 2017, 12:19:39 pm
Looking good ! I sure does suck when people take advantage of you. It's a sad/ funny human trait, that if we don't pay for goods/ services at the time, we somehow feel like we're being taken advantage of later, when asked to pay up !
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2017, 02:02:45 pm
Thanks!  This kit has been really fun to build so far. Even at my slow, distracted pace, I'm making a lot of headway. I'm totally glad I have another one in the stash to make into the green military "Nell."

Yeah I know what you mean... all of a sudden the person collecting is the bad guy for having the gall to mention that they haven't been paid in forever as agreed to. I'm reminded of last year with the lawn mower incident. I sell this moron a push mower for $40. Against my better judgment and past experience I agreed to the "I'll pay you later" bunch of garbage. Only $40 (but at the time I was VERY broke, not like the "broke" I am now... I only had 2-3 lawns and was pulling in maybe $200 a month.. so $40 to me was a LOT) but I gave this dude an entire month to pay. FAST FORWARD 8 FRIGGIN months and this dude has only paid me $10! I finally got fed up and went and re possesed my mower. I even told them I was (going to do it) ... only for the douchebag to turn around and call the cops on me!!!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:   Things are so backward these days....   everything else is the same way. Customer service for instance....  I could get a hamburger with a pile of napkins where the meat should be or something and if I go and complain all of a sudden I'M the rude one or I'm some type of evil person.  :angry: ;D  (side note, turned out the mower I re possessed was a different one.. same brand and stuff, but not the same. Turns out he PAWNED mine. I had to return his mower but the police told him how he was breaking a bunch of something or other laws by pawning stuff that wasn't his yet; I could press charges in other words. Within 2 days he paid me off.)

Anyway... small progress report. I drilled a hole in the canopy with my big dewalt drill.. second time I've used that thing on a kit.  ;D ;D ;D  I think the bit I used was ever so slightly larger than I needed but I can make up the difference. Then I dipped it in floor polish a couple times to clear it up a bit. It worked! Sometimes it doesn't for some reason (might be the generic brand of polish.)  Also, the engine cowlings are to be painted black... lo and behold, they were molded black like the tires. Won't have to put any filler on them and the glue will be underneath hidden away...... so... I dipped them suckers in the polish, too!!  The bits of scratches have diminished and the finish looks very much acceptable. No need to paint... one less thing to do, one step closer to what I REALLY want to work on... which is the paint job.

Ate lunch and sure enough the shakes went away within 20 minutes. Feeling confident now to at least start the canopy frame painting. I may have to do it in two sessions. Fatigue might set in before I can finish it and have me making less than ideal brush strokes. I've yet to tackle one with this much frame work... a bit of new territory for me.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 15, 2017, 06:54:33 pm
Preliminary run on the glass...  got it all done. It definitely needs touch up and refinement, however!


(http://i.imgur.com/xhoIiUG.jpg)

This acrylic silver paint has potential. It ... err.....  "arrives" in the bottle very thick. It's akin to Elmer's PVA. It "strings" whilst being drawn from the bottle. That said.... it actually lays down well. Needs to be stirred often of course. I need practice, but this paint seems to be pretty neat! Seems like with proper dilution and care it can make pretty decent silvery "looking" parts. Personally, I don't plan to use it for more than small areas and things that don't contrast like the glass frames here and things like gear, maybe hilights or something.

Also painting the props. Instructions call for silver on the front, black on the rear. Makes sense to cut down on glare. That said, some of my reference material has them silver on both sides. I trust the instructions once again.  :thumbsup:

I must re-iterate how fun building this kit has been so far! "Obsolete kits" my backside...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2017, 05:53:38 am
Neat work on the canopy framing  :thumbsup:


They had some weird $7 sanding... pad type thing at the store that was 3000 grite... not like a normal pad but it was almost like a thick piece of cloth. I felt on it and it was smoother than my t-shirt. And this is supposed to sand? I suppose so.. I mean...

When the git is this fine and indeed finer they are really polishing cloths. Useful for canopies if you've had to work on them. I've got some very fine stuff that I use after the toothpaste in order to restore the clarity of any clear parts that I've had to mess around with.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 16, 2017, 06:02:43 am
Neat work on the canopy framing  :thumbsup:


They had some weird $7 sanding... pad type thing at the store that was 3000 grite... not like a normal pad but it was almost like a thick piece of cloth. I felt on it and it was smoother than my t-shirt. And this is supposed to sand? I suppose so.. I mean...

When the git is this fine and indeed finer they are really polishing cloths. Useful for canopies if you've had to work on them. I've got some very fine stuff that I use after the toothpaste in order to restore the clarity of any clear parts that I've had to mess around with.
Ahhh ok! That sounds like something I could use, actually... I might spring for this thing next time. I get by the store!

And thanks! It turned out pretty good. I thought it would be more hassle but it wasn't bad. It was easy to hold and I could brace one hand on the other. Sometimes the things can be a weird shape and get all squirrely and simply "not sit right" which increases the tedium. And, while it looks really good from arms distance (in I probably should just leave it alone) I'm going to see if I can find a toothpick with a finer point to get in a bit closer to the framing in some areas.

In other news, I'll have to show y'all the "future dipped" engine cowlings. They turned out pretty good looking I think!  Who needs paint?!?!?  Thankfully there weren't any swirls or anything in these from new runs of plastic being injected.

Getting more crazy ideas.... this thing is coming together so easily I'm contemplating breaking the other one out and building on it to the point where I'm caught up with this one.... then build them in tandem. I'll probably wind up not doing it, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2017, 03:29:04 am
Final report on my ebay Safari. I was REEEEEALLY wanting the Coustea PBY but it way up out of my range. Final going price was $100.99. I got the Renzan, a Do 24, the Hustler, and a Haweye AWACS. Not nearly what I WANTED but at least I didn't spend too much of my money so I still have a decent chunk left to run my business on.  :thumbsup:


Back to the Nipples GO!!! Still pitch black out and I'm not going to head off to work for another hour or so so I'm going to get another cup of coffee going then grab the fuselage and start filing and sanding the seams down the middle.

I think I'll be at the painting stage at some point today. I need to work out a plan of action. For instance... should I do a bunch of sanding before primer? After? Both?  Should I sand in between coats? How about the black? Should or could I go ahead and spray a coat of matter black then sand it then come in with the gloss? Should I just do coats of gloss? Should I sand in between coats of it IT? Etc. etc... I want to really go for it on this painting stuff. Going to be an exercise in patience I imagine.

I need some advice on all this or to locate an article or two about it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2017, 06:21:07 am
Basically if it's not smooth then sand it before putting more paint on it.
I really really think you should test out the black spray paint on something that doesn't matter.  Both to see what the finish is like and to see how well it sprays.  Some of these cheap DIY store rattle cans can have nozzles that blast out huge amounts of paint which is not necessarily what you want.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 17, 2017, 07:36:16 am

I really really think you should test out the black spray paint on something that doesn't matter.  Both to see what the finish is like and to see how well it sprays.  Some of these cheap DIY store rattle cans can have nozzles that blast out huge amounts of paint which is not necessarily what you want.

And they are not necessarily friendly to the type of plastic used in the kits  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: scooter on June 17, 2017, 11:00:03 am

I really really think you should test out the black spray paint on something that doesn't matter.  Both to see what the finish is like and to see how well it sprays.  Some of these cheap DIY store rattle cans can have nozzles that blast out huge amounts of paint which is not necessarily what you want.

And they are not necessarily friendly to the type of plastic used in the kits  :banghead:

If its Krylon, you should be fine.  I've mainly used their Ultra Flat series on a slew of various plastics, especially ABS, without any issues.  And if I've got a rattle can that isn't Krylon, I'll prime first with Krylon ultra-flat sand
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2017, 11:19:33 am
Primer and gloss black both are Krylon. Only wild card is the silver paint...   I'll be sure to keep an eye on the layers as I go and if need be, I'll let it dry up the requisite time then sand to smooth. I'll keep the off brand matte black out of the equation completely.

I'm confident in the paint but I will go ahead and do a bit of a test so I can see how the stuff sprays and what the "baseline" might be. I have a decent sized styrene stand thing that came with one kit or another. I can wash it, prime it, then hit it with a quick bit of sanding then spray black and see how it goes...  I'll acclimate with how the stuff sprays and practice following the directions on it this way.

I think the biggest problem here is ME. If anything goes wrong it's because I'm not doing things the right way. I'll be the first to admit that I've always just flown by the seat of my pants when it comes to painting with rattle cans. Fact is, if I actually followed the directions and put a little effort in I might be able to teach myself to do it the "right way." I know it can be done, I just need to unlock the process myself and get familiar with it.

Da help is always appreciated!!  Thanks y'all!  :lol:


EDIT:  Speaking of ME.... one reason why I get less than stellar finishes is trying to spray in friggin' wind storm that is normal Oklahoma weather. I either have to paint outside in my shop (FAR, FAR, FAR too dusty to risk it), outside on one porch or other (TOOOOOO windy right now) or I open a window in my spare (storage) room and spray in there. Problem is it doesn't vent fast enough for my liking so a cloud of paint kind of hangs in the air.... I don't particularly relish the idea of a cloud of rapidly drying paint circulating the project... potential for orange peel all over the place.

So...   all this mess is dependant on the weather. Humidity is also damn high right now and it's about 100 degrees so I'll have to wait until all the parameters line up before I attempt anything. What I'll do is just get the test stand ready as far as I can, then the next time the weather is good, I'll progress with the test. I'll have to do the same on the actual project, too, of course.  So anyway..  it might be awhile before this gets any further. I may as well plan on working on my shelf of doom stuff in the interim!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on June 17, 2017, 01:43:32 pm
But then the instructions are all different for every brand of paint, anyway...

If you have a large enough food storage container (plastic ice cream tub, cake tin, tupperware, etc) you can place that upside down over the drying model and that will help keep dust/dried paint/assorted cr@p off it until the paint dries.
Even an old shoe box would be ok.

HTH
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2017, 02:07:32 pm
Working on three models at once! WOOOOOO!!!   :unsure: ;D

Got all the sanding and filing done on the fuselage of the Mitsubishi. SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH man let me tell you. Ain't no ridge or none of that... no little tiny hairline stuff that catches on a fingernail;.... smooth as ice. I think I'll give the whole thing a once over with whatever appropriate grit sandpapder to make sure I didn't miss anything then I need to address the tailplanes and fins. That won't take hardly any time at all then I'll glue them on. Next, it's time to build the wings and let them sit. Tomorrow, or next time I work on it all, all I'll have to do is my sanding and filing routine on said wings after the glue dries then I can glue them on to the fuselage as well. After that, putty in the seam if I need it then........    That's about it for major construction.

The minor stuff: I need to paint red stripes on the props, paint the engines, then glue the props to the engines. I also need to mask the windows. I'll have to re visit the instructions but I think that's about where I get to stop working because nothing else can be done until the very end --after the paint and decalling process.

True to my word, for a change, I have been working on my two stalled projects as I said I would. Since I'm no longer in a hurry with the other project, I'm rotating and doing these others in the in between times.  Feast your eyes. . . . .

(http://i.imgur.com/y31u8e2.jpg)
Check the engines and engine cowling pieces. Molded in black, all I did was dip them in future about 5 times and they look really nice! Nice and shiny and smooth!  :laugh:

Hey, it's going to be a good feeling finally getting these done!!!  It's never as fun having to go back and redo things because of my own shoddy work and mishaps but it's not really "fair" to my beloved kits to abandon them like that! After these two, I might even have enough motivation to tackle another stalled project or "rehab."  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2017, 02:11:41 pm
But then the instructions are all different for every brand of paint, anyway...

If you have a large enough food storage container (plastic ice cream tub, cake tin, tupperware, etc) you can place that upside down over the drying model and that will help keep dust/dried paint/assorted cr@p off it until the paint dries.
Even an old shoe box would be ok.

HTH
That's what I normally do when I spray in the dusty shop. Not going to use the shop at all this time because it's SO dusty that even in the short time I'm spraying, before I can cover it, I'm worried about something going wrong. I'm going to spray outside... that said, I normally don't cover the model when I spray outside....  and come to think of it I had a couple specks and a bug or two land on my stuff last time around so I think I'll take your advice and go ahead and cover it this time! Better safe than sorry.. Thanks!! :D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on June 17, 2017, 02:13:36 pm
No worries.  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2017, 06:00:59 pm
Finished the props, finished painting the radial engines inside their cowlings. (they all look good... orrr good enough!!   :thumbsup:)

Had to stop further work to deal with "real life" crap. It has really turned my mood and I'm sick of it. For the fourth time in less than a month my sole employee failed to show up for work, and didn't even have the decency to call me. Well, one time, this person was three hours late..... that's the GOOD part, the other three times were no call/no show. Long story short now I've had to postpone jobs and am suddenly stuck trying to hire someone else. It's hard to relax and have fun with all this milarkey hanging over my head!!!!!  And ol' boy YET AGAIN said he'd come pay me the remainder of his bill and DIDN'T SHOW. Good God... I have to deal with unreliable employees and customers both. I'm but one man. This is NOT what I envisioned last year when I restarted this whole mess.  :banghead:  Why is it every time I try to incorporate another human being into my dealings that things go tits up? People are so damned unreliable these days.

Shelving things until Monday afternoon.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on June 17, 2017, 06:45:32 pm
Sounds like it's time for a change of employee then - if this numnutz hasn't soured you on the whole idea.

Is your equivalent of small claims court a viable option for the other India-Delta-One-Zero-Tango? Or even the threat of same?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 17, 2017, 06:53:55 pm
Definitely you're right. The one I had is fired. No question. I've already put up new advertisement on the local internet things to try to hire another.

As far as ol' boy with the delinquent bill. ..  yes, I could take this idiot to court but, of the $220 I'm owed he actually came and paid $140 which leaves a balance of $80.  Now, that's a decent chunk of money in my world, BUT, the hassle of trying to get it back via small claims will be more trouble than it's worth. It was even more trouble than it's worth back when it was the full $220. At this point, I kind of wish the dude would just shove off. BUT, each time he makes contact and tells me he will come pay I'm obligated to go along with it and at least try to recover my money.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 18, 2017, 02:17:05 am
And people wonder why I show no interest in running my own small business.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 18, 2017, 03:11:48 am

And people wonder why I show no interest in running my own small business.


Zenrat Industries being a LARGE business of course?  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 18, 2017, 03:25:20 am

And people wonder why I show no interest in running my own small business.


Zenrat Industries being a LARGE business of course?  ;D ;)

Any similarities in the names are purely coincidental Kit.    :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 18, 2017, 04:48:23 am

And people wonder why I show no interest in running my own small business.


Zenrat Industries being a LARGE business of course?  ;D ;)

Any similarities in the names are purely coincidental Kit.    :mellow:

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 18, 2017, 07:05:58 am
No idea what employment laws are like in the U.S. but I would have thought your errant employee had had enough rope. Time to drop the hatch perhaps ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 18, 2017, 07:16:14 am
Most definitely! I was paying her under the table anyway so... no recourse, I dropped the hammer yesterday.And, just like she did me, no call or anyhing. One day she'll call up and ask if there's any money to be made and I'll say, "Nope, you're done."   And, even if I did hire "legally" Oklahoma is an "at will " employment (load of garbage) place where one can be fired for any ol' reason.  "Hey, your shirt is blue and I don't like that shade, YOU'RE FIRED!"  ;D ;D   

All I have to say is I can't wait for winter to get here!!!!! Hell, summer isn't even officially here for another couple days and I'm already wanting it over.

In the modeling world.... hmmmm......   going to take a break today and play video games and watch TV then get back at it tomorrow.  :lol:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: scooter on June 18, 2017, 08:15:31 am
And, even if I did hire "legally" Oklahoma is an "at will " employment (load of garbage) place where one can be fired for any ol' reason

Most of the states are.  IIRC from my Intro to Business Law class, Montana is the only state that isn't
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 19, 2017, 02:42:22 am
And, even if I did hire "legally" Oklahoma is an "at will " employment (load of garbage) place where one can be fired for any ol' reason

Most of the states are.  IIRC from my Intro to Business Law class, Montana is the only state that isn't

Ahh, fascinating! I thought it was closer to half and half. Thanks!  You know, I've always thought living in Montana would be cool....never really gets too hot and the population density is low.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 19, 2017, 12:54:11 pm
Back at it today! I'm a bit behind at work and my phone is still Alive With The Sound of Excuses but I'm having a better week so far and not feelin shabby at all. Quite motivated to move forward!

What luck... the weather outside is cooperating. Not too windy at all, I can spray outside. It's hot but not TOO hot. In fact, rather than soak the cans in warm water I'm just going to let them sit outside for an hour. Its ~90 degrees F so that should do the trick nicely.

I fished the stand out of the stash. Lucky for me it was pretty much where it ought to be, inside the Hawk U2A box it came with. Also quite lucky is that I need a stand for my three 1/2500 Star Trek ships and this ought to be perfect. I'll have to scratch build some of it but I don't see why I can't handle it. I'll just use some sprue or something and keep it really simple. All that will come later, however, for now I'll mask off the very top where I will eventually glue things to and then throw a quick sanding on the rest and prime it up. Surface is in pretty good shape but there are a few tiny mars in there that need leveling off. (In fact, I just stopped and did this, just need to wash it now)

Here it is along with the props and engines/engine cowlings:

(http://i.imgur.com/3uNvLRO.jpg)

Been reading up and doing homework.  I figure it's all basically the same once dealing with styrene so I read a piece some ol' boy wrote whilst he was working on a Tamiya Ferrari. The range o' sandpaper I bought goes up to 2500 and I was thinking that would be good to go. Like I said before, I've heard of people getting a very vice NMF just going up to 2000. This guy here was using 12,000 grit little polishing pads and such. I suppose if this doesn't go so well this time that I can try them pads on the next attempt. He also used a liquid plastic polish at the very end. I wonder if I could get by with something like Meguiar's or something? Like with paint... I find it difficult shelling out twice or quadruple the money for something specifally geared toward scale modeling when I can get same or better, 4 times the quantity for half or more less.  I mean... I will... I'm willing to.. but damn, I'm trying NOT to.   ;D ;D ;D   I like to save money!  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 19, 2017, 11:57:16 pm
Looking good


 I find it difficult shelling out twice or quadruple the money for something specifally geared toward scale modeling when I can get same or better, 4 times the quantity for half or more less.  I mean... I will... I'm willing to.. but damn, I'm trying NOT to.   ;D ;D ;D   I like to save money!  :lol:

It can be suprising the premium that is put on prices once something is marked as being for hobby use  :banghead:

Always worth looking around for the similar thing in a cheaper form. Amazing how often you can find it and quite often in bargain stores  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on June 20, 2017, 12:37:31 am
Looking good


 I find it difficult shelling out twice or quadruple the money for something specifally geared toward scale modeling when I can get same or better, 4 times the quantity for half or more less.  I mean... I will... I'm willing to.. but damn, I'm trying NOT to.   ;D ;D ;D   I like to save money!  :lol:

It can be suprising the premium that is put on prices once something is marked as being for hobby use  :banghead:

Always worth looking around for the similar thing in a cheaper form. Amazing how often you can find it and quite often in bargain stores  ;)

And you mostly find It's. The. Same. D*mn. Stuff!!  :angry:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 20, 2017, 03:47:56 am
Bloke I know refuses to use "cheap supermarket rubbish" as he says its not meant for models and he doesn't want to risk ruining his builds saving a few bucks.  He only ever uses stuff sold for use on models.  Mind you, he does build absolutely sunning 1/25 Hot Rods.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 20, 2017, 06:18:51 am
Bloke I know refuses to use "cheap supermarket rubbish" as he says its not meant for models and he doesn't want to risk ruining his builds saving a few bucks.  He only ever uses stuff sold for use on models. 

Like most view points it's correct some of the time, whilst on other occasions the cheaper option is just as good. The trick is knowing (and I'm no where there yet) which way to go, and when. Read the magazines and websites and talk to fellow modelers at shows is my advice and then try the cheaper option on something your not going to break your heart over if it screws up  ;)

Most modellers in my experience are only to willing to share their experiences - modeling wise anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 21, 2017, 03:32:34 am
Up nice and early today at 3:45 AM so I can go out and work.... cut me a lawn, and hopefully come home before it's too hot to hop on the lawn tractor and chop down some of the apocalyptic jungle that is my own yard. With my FORMER employeed having screwed up weeks worth of work and having me so far behind I've had to put it off for weeks and it's been raining quite a bit. It's a travesty!! Anyway.. I won't be messing with it past noon then back to models...

I have new projects in the works. I'm itching to try my first ever TRUE kitbashing and scale o rama. I'm also going to build a presidential escort for my Cuban Tu-4 with a Frog Sea Fury. Going to uhhhh...... get this current project done first and ATTEMPT to finish off the two stalled builds also. I can reward myself with new fun projects by finishing up the old.

On the docket today is continuing painting the base. This thing makes for good practice! One thing that gives me pause, however, is the primer saying I should sand the piece with 220 grit before putting on the top coat. Wouldn't that be too coarse? It does say to do it lightly so... I'm just going to do what the cans tell me too. These people have scientist and engineers who spent years tuning all this stuff and Lord knows how much money so who am I to come along and reinvent the wheel?  Also going to get the tail planes glued on to the fuselage. 

For the stalled project I think I need to keep sanding on the Enterprise. When I initially painted it I couldn't get it cover right no matter how many coats I put on and they would lay flat. Lumpy and swirly and all that. It got to the point where it was drowning out some of the detail. Not sure what went wrong there... I'm going to try primer this after I get it sanded back down. I'm have a tough time doing this without erasing the detalon the bottom, though... mostt of the detail I'm getting rid of because it is duplicated on the transfers but on the bottom of the saucer section there are rings and stuff that need to stay. For the f-84 I'm still painting...  I need to put a tiny bit more silver on the wings to help with the wing roots then some black goes up on the nose. I think I may be able to hit it with gloss after that. I yanked all the stuff out of the cockpit, as well, since the canopy will be blacked out I may as well save the pilot and seat and what not for something else. A shame about the canopy but it's beyond rehab.

TTYL!


EDIT: Wow.   ;D  Spelling and grammar really flies out the window this early in the day.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 21, 2017, 11:24:51 am
Feeling like a million bucks!! I was done with the outside work by 10:30 just as it was heating up. Normally I get a little sickish-feeling; nauseous and headache and all that from the heat and sunlight but I made it home in time to avoid it I guess.  :lol:  Been feeling like warmed over turds for the most part of the last two weeks after that one day I was out way too late.  That stuff really it takes it out of me.. I don't do well in the heat.  It makes it to where I feel motivated mentally but when it comes time to actually get up, go up and down the stairs, etc etc etc to do things necessary for working on models that I can't quite get it together physically!  "Mind is willing but body says no!"  Just go done eating a quite nice lunch, too, so I'll be feeling the boost from that in half an hour or so and will be even better. 


BUT............ Now... the wind is trying to pick up.  ;D  Go figure.....   that's OK, I have other work I can do on these projects. I can go ahead and sand this base, for instance. I've no 220 grit sand paper but I have some 400... I don't see why this won't work..   Already I'm deviating from the instructions on the can of primer but I think in this case it shouldn't be a problem... if anything, I'm SAFER using a finer sanding paper, right?  Just need to get it smooth anyway, not like I'm trying to "rough it up" to glue to it or trying to rub the primer away...    :::shrug::::

After that I'm going to get back to actual construction on the Mitsubishi. Just going to do some light sanding on the fuselage first (and the tail planes ) then glue them to one another.

Then, back to the F-84 and Enterprise NCC 1701. I would love to get these done so I can start on the next projects. I'm going to get rolling on the Hawker Sea Fury (Cuban). I want to make it pretty much exactly as it was historically. If the NMF works on this Mitsu I'm going to use it on the Sea Fury as well. If not, I'm either going with some two tone brown stuff or wait until I iron out whatever it is I did wrong to screw it up.

ALSO, Brad's first kitbash!!!! I have two different ideas. One is a simple swapping around of some parts and stuff all in the same scale, but then, another thing I was thinking about has be throwing 1/48 wings onto a box scale (close to 1/72 but not quite... it's the old revell stuff, one is a Crusader and one a Vigilante...  one was like 1/68 or something and the other was.. I don't know.. I want to say 1/84 but that seems wrong... either way.. since they are outside of the scale I like making them into whifbashkitoramascalethingy sounds like an EXCELLENT idea).  In fact, I keep meaning to get all the kits out and play around with the parts but I seem to get busy with other things instead..  Maybe I'll remember it today.  I'll reward myself with play time after I make sure to get at least a lil bit done on all three of these current builds.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 21, 2017, 01:39:04 pm
Huh...    I'm at the part that gave made me apprehensive at the very beginning... the CUTTING. Doesn't make much sense to me.. why mold the part on there just to have to cut it off and throw it away? Why not mold the wings without this superfluous part??  Or is it because the bomber version was different or something??  Oh well... anyway... I have to cut this piece off of both sides then there are separate gear doors that glue on.

(http://i.imgur.com/9MCyLl5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tGwiuWe.jpg)
You can see the ridge there on the left side inside the gear bay...  I have to cut along that line. Picture shows a razor blade like Tony Montana would chop up his sniffing powder with but uhhhh....  I'm thinking of trying hobby knives instead. I have a seat of cheap-o knock off brand knives (the handles are probably OK, but the blades might not be as good as xacto.... then again, maybe they are just fine!).  I think I'll try those. I'm going to have to take my time and score and re score and take out tiny bits of material at a time as I slice along the ridge in order to keep from messing it up... especially the thin little tabs that represent where the "hinges" go. I think I'll try the curved blade one first. Good thing is I don't have to worry about the surplus I'm cutting off and if I mess it up a little of the edge that is left over I can probably file it back into shape. This is beyond the scope of things I am accustomed to doing so wish my luck...    hopefully I won't cut myself or mess up the plasteek.

Next order of business... I have a couple of questions. The really really nice color insert thingy for the kit shows a military version of this civil version of a light bomber. (lol) My problem is this......   is this actually a configuration they used? As a transport or something maybe??  No turrets or anything and it still has the windows on the side which the "Nell" did not have. I can't seem to find any information about it. Couldn't find any pictures of one in this configuration either. I was wanting to build this version, too, but if I need to cut holes in it and source turrets and all that mess I'll go in another direction. If this is a transport or something else that actually existed, then fine, I'll build it.

Lastly, what is the color on the bottom supposed to be?  Is that some sort of off white or really light green or what? 

(http://i.imgur.com/UlZMrVV.jpg)




Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 21, 2017, 03:39:47 pm
IIRC they used a pale grey in the underside, but you can bet there's maybe 4-5 different specs for it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on June 22, 2017, 02:06:44 am
Goggle does show a variety of versions, with a variety of turrets... I did find what looks like an old Aircam profile that showed an L3Y2 Model 12 in Green over Grey with just a small spine turret, serving in 1944.
There's also a G3M2 Model 21 in overall Orange with Black nacelles, again in 1944 but with 2 small spine turrets.
All the others were the G3 military version with large, Catalina-style blisters on the roof and sides.

Sorry not to be of more use.  &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 22, 2017, 05:57:48 am
Yup light grey undersides with the Army and Navy using different shades. The Navy's was slightly lighter, if my White Ensign paints are to be trusted, which they are  :thumbsup:

As an aside the cowlings weren't black but a very dark bluish black with a slight sheen. A very attractive colour IMHO
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 22, 2017, 08:02:00 am
IIRC they used a pale grey in the underside, but you can bet there's maybe 4-5 different specs for it.
Sounds good to me because I definitely have that color sitting right here!


Goggle does show a variety of versions, with a variety of turrets... I did find what looks like an old Aircam profile that showed an L3Y2 Model 12 in Green over Grey with just a small spine turret, serving in 1944.
There's also a G3M2 Model 21 in overall Orange with Black nacelles, again in 1944 but with 2 small spine turrets.
All the others were the G3 military version with large, Catalina-style blisters on the roof and sides.

Sorry not to be of more use.  &lt;_&lt;
No worries! That's the roadblock I ran into as well. I could find all kinds of stuff.... but this one.  ;D ;D  I did get ONE confirmation that it does exist from a a fellow on facebook, however. 

" I believe they were used as transport and liaison aircraft as well, and after their usefulness as bombers"


 So that's good! Bolstered by this and curious again after reading your replies here in this thread, I had a run at wiki just now and found something I missed the first time:

"G3M1-L
G3M1 converted into an armed or unarmed military transport version and powered by Mitsubishi Kinsei 45 (802 kW/1,075 hp) engines.
"

Nice!!  I suppose I could google specifically "G3M1-L" and see if any pictures show up that look like a turretless windowed Nell. Short on time at the moment so I will later but at least we're on the right track. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 23, 2017, 03:40:24 am
Just thought I'd share some of the BS I have to deal with every day.  I'm CONSIDERING hiring another helper but each day that passes I find the idea less appealing and handling it all myself again like I was is looking like the best option. I can't GROW too much being by myself but then... dealing with unreliable people really hurts when they let me down so.... I dunno.. I'd rather keep a good thing going than push the envelope, have to rely on another human element, have them fail, and in turn have ME fail.  But anyway... here's this amusing nugget:

(http://i.imgur.com/bIXPS65.png)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Anyway, I gotta go.... sun will be up in about 45 minutes so I need to go out and start picking up garbage. See y'all later.  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 23, 2017, 12:35:54 pm
Yup light grey undersides with the Army and Navy using different shades. The Navy's was slightly lighter, if my White Ensign paints are to be trusted, which they are  :thumbsup:

As an aside the cowlings weren't black but a very dark bluish black with a slight sheen. A very attractive colour IMHO
Ack!!   Reminds me of the USAF T-37s with what I THOUGHT was the black bottom... turns out it was just dark blue all along!  These goofy instructions didn't even mention it (although mentioned what color to paint most of the rest of ithe parts.)  I'll just leave 'em black and now it's a WHIF!!  ;D ;D

Whilst on the note of accuracy I finally got around to checking the measurements of this thing. I remember you warning me that some of these " 1/72 " kits might actually be 1/75.  Lucked out on this one! It's 1/72 thankfully... Fuselage length was dead on accurate, and wingspan was only off by what amounted to be ~4 centimeters per wing (~1.5 inch) and since I was eyeballing and measuring across the top of a round fuselage that probably explains the small discrepancy.  :thumbsup:

In other news... in typical fashion..... ALL MORNING LONG while I mowed in the heat and humidty the wind (when I NEEDED it) was DEAD CALM.. I mean... MAYBE 2mph gusts. Yeah, now I come home ready to go outside and paint and it looks like a whirlwind going on outside! Can't make this stuff up!! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 23, 2017, 04:59:59 pm
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yay!! I did the cutting on the ... thingies!  Nacelles I guess... gear bay.. whatever the hell it is. It was easier than I thought it would be. I used a flat needle file, a round tapered file, sharp pointed hobby blade, pointed hobby blade, and flat needel nose pliers (picture miniature hand held metal brakes......  perfect for snapping the plastic off nice and straight along the score lines) and it took about 15 minutes total. The camera flash and extreme close range hilights a mutlitude of sins but these really do look perfectly fine from even close up. Totally happy with the outcome. I won't be as apprehensive next time about using hobby blades! Baby steps. ... 


(http://i.imgur.com/KFq8pnZ.jpg)

And whadda ya know, a GOOD picture for a change!  ;D

I also did some painting on some other stuff, sanded the fuselage and tailplanes/rudders then glued them to one another.  Trimmed up the sprues and got rid of all the empty ones...

I've decided not to paint the control surfaces at all. They are molded in this silver color which looks just fine for doped up cloth. I don't think it would be correct for them to have a high luster sheen like the rest, right?

More to come soon... calling it a day for now... time for video games.

Speaking of, I'm playing Just Cause 3 and ALL the aircraft are WHIF planes! Damn well done ones, too. No hokey weird stuff...   I'll post them in the "whifs found in games" thread at some point. It's a shame more people don't visit that thread... I even posted a few pictures of actual physical models in there and I don't think anyone bothered to look! These are really neat.   There's this one airplane that has corsair wings, shaped like sea fury wings but gull shaped, a mustang tail, a 5 bladed prop and spinner from... I dunno... fuselage looks sort of Fw190-ish , etc etc... in fact, hold on, I'll see if I can snap a picture or two of one real quick... BRB... these planes are neat I swear and have the gears spinning like crazy. . ..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 23, 2017, 05:24:41 pm
Check it!! How cool? 

(http://i.imgur.com/re5vI0p.jpg)

More shot angles and pictures to be found in the video games thread! Check it out! I'll sit down at some point and do an air show in the game here and take a bunch of pictures of the neat airplanes.


EDIT:  Oooh... crappy distorted angle shot here....   makes the plane look out of shape and stuff...   I'll try harder to do better at getting it right next time. It's kind of odd taking a picture of a two dimensional object trying to portray a 3 dimensional object..   For instance, the rudder isn't all tall and squished IRL on my screen.. not sure what's going on there. It looks like legit Mustang tail!  I'm tellin ya, these airplanes are really well done!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 24, 2017, 02:24:24 am

Whilst on the note of accuracy I finally got around to checking the measurements of this thing. I remember you warning me that some of these " 1/72 " kits might actually be 1/75.  Lucked out on this one! It's 1/72 thankfully... Fuselage length was dead on accurate, and wingspan was only off by what amounted to be ~4 centimeters per wing (~1.5 inch) and since I was eyeballing and measuring across the top of a round fuselage that probably explains the small discrepancy.  :thumbsup:



Close enough for Government work  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 24, 2017, 12:39:14 pm
Corsair with Wildcat tail and 5-blade prop with spinner?!? Love it!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 25, 2017, 02:23:10 am
Nutty, right!! I'm going to try to get more pictures of these things.. they're all so cool!  Well, actually, I realized just now I could just steal them from Wiki I suppose... and those won't be all distorted like mine.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on June 25, 2017, 03:44:51 am
You don't steal them! You link to them, with a reference to the wiki site from which they were linked.

That way it's a referenced resource, not a stolen object. ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 25, 2017, 08:25:34 am
You don't steal them! You link to them, with a reference to the wiki site from which they were linked.

That way it's a referenced resource, not a stolen object. ;D

Yup  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 25, 2017, 10:21:45 am
 ;D ;D

Naturally! I guess I should get out of the habit of using "stealing" nonchalantly. I even "steal" my own things from time to time. lmao


OK! Plans for today....  I was kind of wanting to take a break and give some other hobbies a chance at existing so I'm not going to get too much done (this could change... I change my mind all the time!!  I might get a head of steam built up and wind up highly motivated to continue).  I kind of wanted to play some video games today. Not so sure now but we'll see how things go after lunch.

Anyway the plans for now are to at least start with the mist coats of the gloss black on the stand. The weather seems to be cooperating for now! Hooray!  Other than that I'd really like to get the wings on this Mitsu built and sitting to dry. If I can get these two things done, I'd like to put some black paint on the F-84 then a little more silver on the wings then I do believe I can either gloss coat it or wait and do the canopy first then gloss coat it.  Can't gloss a clear canopy (that's what ruined it ) but since I'm going to paint it black anyway I don't see the problem. So.... I'll paint it black at the same time I finish up the nose then it will be ready for the frame work and them vinyl straps.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 25, 2017, 02:45:52 pm
Good day, good day!!!  Sure enough, got to work on these kits and didn't want to stop! Moving at a snails pace, though...  I get distracted a lot and have all kinds of other things going on but I managed work on all three current projects.

More sanding on the 1/2500 Enterprise.

Gear glued into and wings glued together on the Nipple Go.

Thunderjet has had paint put on and canopy "tinted" with "limo tint."

(http://i.imgur.com/QKTVj1q.jpg) :thumbsup:

I feel pretty good about this F-84. Kinda bummed that I messed it up so bad but I'm fixing most of it nicely and the canopy.. well...  it's black, so what.  :rolleyes: I think I'm well back on track to having it turn out to be really cool anyway!!  This is going to be one unique looking bird.  :laugh:

Wind has picked up a bit so may postpone painting on the stand.. we'll see.

Bonus picture!!

This is my "old girl"  Mimi. I've had her for nearly 14 years now. I thought she was cute lookin' all sittin in the tall grass of my yard. This was a low patch!   :o

(http://i.imgur.com/cQ3ZBgU.jpg)

Good girl!!   ;D




Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 25, 2017, 03:23:38 pm
Mimi's chillin!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 25, 2017, 05:14:37 pm
Big time! I love that old dog. I call her "lazy girl" a lot because she's at the stage where she lounges around mainly.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on June 26, 2017, 01:36:36 am
I have to say that if I had the option, I'd laze around a lot of the time, too!  ;D

You been Pimpin' yo Mower, Dude? Sweeet!


I'm not sure, but the F-84 may be in one of the Falcon or Squadron Vacform canopy ranges... wait one...
Found it!:
http://www.jaysmodelkits.com/jaysmk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_103&products_id=762

Or here:
http://www.jaysmodelkits.com/jaysmk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=797

which would also give you a lot more stuff for future projects.

So they should be available at your friendly LHS.

Cheers
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 26, 2017, 06:01:16 am
Big time! I love that old dog. I call her "lazy girl" a lot because she's at the stage where she lounges around mainly.  ;D

Sensible girl  :thumbsup: She's quite an age, still looks full of beans though  ;D I love it that when they get to old age they are sensible enough to take it easy.....most of the time  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 27, 2017, 02:26:29 am
I have to say that if I had the option, I'd laze around a lot of the time, too!  ;D

You been Pimpin' yo Mower, Dude? Sweeet!


I'm not sure, but the F-84 may be in one of the Falcon or Squadron Vacform canopy ranges... wait one...
Found it!:
http://www.jaysmodelkits.com/jaysmk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_103&products_id=762

Or here:
http://www.jaysmodelkits.com/jaysmk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=797

which would also give you a lot more stuff for future projects.

So they should be available at your friendly LHS.

Cheers

LOL   Nah, it's just old!!  Some of them older mowers have spoke wheels I guess. lol    I actually picked that one and another one up for free off the side of the road. Came with some brand new parts, too! Ol' boy threw em out there and told me one leaked gas or someting and the other wouldn't start... this other one, not pictured, had been obviousl'y half ran over by an automobile, poor feller.. either way.. I have lots of parts to make frankenstein mowers with. lol

Good looking out on them canopies. I might pick up that bigger set.. translates to about $13 in USA money so that's pretty cheap and a couple of them I have kits for already.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 27, 2017, 02:27:24 am
Big time! I love that old dog. I call her "lazy girl" a lot because she's at the stage where she lounges around mainly.  ;D

Sensible girl  :thumbsup: She's quite an age, still looks full of beans though  ;D I love it that when they get to old age they are sensible enough to take it easy.....most of the time  ;)
She is, too!! She has bad days and good days and sometimes she'll get up and be all bouncing around and I can get her to chase the ball for about 10 minutes then she's done.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 27, 2017, 03:33:46 am
Big time! I love that old dog. I call her "lazy girl" a lot because she's at the stage where she lounges around mainly.  ;D

Sensible girl  :thumbsup: She's quite an age, still looks full of beans though  ;D I love it that when they get to old age they are sensible enough to take it easy.....most of the time  ;)
She is, too!! She has bad days and good days and sometimes she'll get up and be all bouncing around and I can get her to chase the ball for about 10 minutes then she's done.  ;D ;D

She prolly says exactly the same about you.   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 27, 2017, 06:04:05 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 27, 2017, 09:50:11 am
Probably right!!!!!    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 27, 2017, 12:56:05 pm
I think all the early morning and late evenings are catching up with me. I didn't even have that heavy of a day but I've got the "yawns" and can't seem to get motivated.  ;D  Either way, I've managed to work on model kits. All three, again, so that's nice!

Mitsu: Filed and sanded wing seams. Still have some areas needing filling so I ran a coat of glue across the seams and now they're sitting. I also sanded the wing root areas on the tail planes and did the same. One more round of filing and sanding and that stuff should be done.

Blew 20 minutes looking for my roll of 2mm tape.

F 84: Removed the masking tape from where I painted. Will have to do some touch up but I'm getting close to gloss coating it (again). I'll think I'll order the Falcon canopy sets so not much else I can do. I suppose I can go ahead and build the thing then do the canopy dead last. I don't see why not? I can decal it and everything then let 'er sit until I can afford to buy the canopies.

Enterprise: Finished sanding.. it's far from perfect but I'll never get done if I don't just settle on a point to resume going forward again instead of fixing prior mistakes. Should be hunky-dory, though! If I can get it painted by later I can take it and the F-84 out and gloss them at the same time.

Billion MPH hour winds have returned but I'm determined to wait it out and see if it slows enough to spray on the stand.  Here's the thing, according to my weather thingy the wind is out of the North so I could potentially go out on the front porch which faces the South and be in a bit of a "dead zone."  Might work out. I'll have to go and see. I put my can of paint outside in the heat ~1hr ago so it's nearing operating temperature.

SURPRISE BONUS 4TH PROJECT!!  Remember the Space Shuttle I dug out of mothballs a while back?? I cleaned it up real good, ran some glue down the wing seams, then threw it in a paper bag. I think I'd like to have a look at it again and if it's ready, I can mask the windows and prime it. The sucker is built, it just needs refining and properly painted and decalled. Of course.... fixing 25 year old mistakes isn't all it's cracked up to be but back when I first worked on it... well... I'm sort of surprised I put it together without the wings upside down or something..   ;D ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/PwpTGom.jpg)
NOT some of my finer work but I'm getting this stuff rehabbed the best that I can.


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 27, 2017, 03:12:05 pm
Really starting to DISLIKE rattle can painting. I used to swear by it but that was when I thought orange peel was somewhat tolerable so long as it was an orange peel that layed somewhat flat and was consistent, blah blah blah.

Anyway, long story short... follow the directions to the letter and still have orange peel!!!  Not as bad as in the past, mind you, but ... it's there none the less..   I'll let it dry up all the way, though, then look at it. Maybe I'm being too impatient. Not entirely done with the steps, either... I should sand it again then go back in for the final coats but at this stage I find it hard to believe I can get the finish I desire without having to find those polishing pads!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Eventually I'm going to try airbrushing. I hope that works. I've all but given up on rattle cans!   ;D ;D  Oh well, I just need to stick with it and see the whole process through and judge the final result instead of what I see early on. For all I know I'm doing this stuff perfectly right and it will turn out fine. I just hate seeing that damned orange peel!   :banghead:

I'll snag some pictures later. I don't even want to breathe on the thing right now...  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 28, 2017, 03:55:35 am
I think all the early morning and late evenings are catching up with me. I didn't even have that heavy of a day but I've got the "yawns" and can't seem to get motivated...

I find having a nap can work wonders for motivation.
Darken the room and follow Winston Churchill's advice and undress and get into bed.  I set my alarm for 1 hour as any more than that and I feel like crap when I wake up and don't sleep at bedtime.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 28, 2017, 04:35:29 am

I find having a nap can work wonders for motivation.
Darken the room and follow Winston Churchill's advice and undress and get into bed.  I set my alarm for 1 hour as any more than that and I feel like crap when I wake up and don't sleep at bedtime.


Absolutely, what Mrs_PR19 calls 'Pensioner Snoozes' work wonders for me too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 28, 2017, 04:43:21 am
Nanna (or Poppa) Naps.

When napping I could never actually get to sleep until I read Churchill's advice and tried it.  Now, if I don't set an alarm I won't wake up for 2 or 3 hours and the day is gone.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on June 28, 2017, 06:17:05 am
Yup, I happily accept the fact that I now sometimes drop off for 30/45 minutes mid afternoon whilst listening to the radio and after a mug of tea. Once upon a time I fought it ; not now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 28, 2017, 06:56:27 am
I like the sound of these naps!  I have one every once in awhile.. I had one the other day and managed to do it right... woke up after an hour.  About 2-3 weeks ago did the same... I normally wind up sleeping the 2-3 hours though. Only the last two times did I manage to get up at a decent time to not feel weird and not have burned through the day! You know you did it wrong when you wake up and are confused as to what day it is....  "oh I guess I better get ready to go to work...  oh wait, it's 7pm"

I think I'll take y'alls advice and make these naps occur more often. The alarm trick I'll try... I  hadn't considered that because normally I become fixated on the alarm and can't shut my mind off. But... as tired as I've been lately I don't see that being the problem any more.

Good ol' Churchill!! Are we sure he didn't just get drunk and pass out? "Naps."   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 28, 2017, 08:01:10 am
https://www.facebook.com/taines.cheung/videos/367464353651880/   
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 29, 2017, 04:40:59 am
https://www.facebook.com/taines.cheung/videos/367464353651880/   
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



That'll teach him to remove the shrink wrap before he gets home.
I find it hard to understand why someone would stand there filming all that on their phone.  Nothing better to do obviously.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 29, 2017, 05:45:14 am
I'm under the impression it was staged.  ;D

That said, don't some Japanese makers omit the shrink wrap on some new kits? I read something the other day about it and I know certain varieties of Hasegawa kit I've never seen shrink wrap on. I bought a brand new just released a month ago kit and it didn't have it either. Kind o' confusing if you ax me...   I know they DO shrinkwrap because my OLD Hasegawa F-14A sure had it but all of these style (my favorite style of Hase kits!!! ) I've yet to see one shrink wrapped:

(http://i.imgur.com/J2G7bdr.jpg)

I'm not saying that they don't shrink wrap the new kits, just that some of these like this I've never seen it.... and of course I wish I could remember now where I saw the conversation about the lack of wrapping on brand new kits.. 


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 29, 2017, 05:47:31 am
I don't think I've ever seen a shrink wrapped Hasegawa kit. Perhaps it's UK market thing?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on June 29, 2017, 08:21:13 am
Found this regarding new Hasegawa kits and shrink wrap:
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/215202-hasegawa-new-kits-no-longer-shrink-wrapped/#comment-2044540

Just placed an order with Sprue Bros. and noticed the following message:
(Copied directly from Sprue Bros site)
  Quote
Hasegawa Kits No Longer Shrinkwrapped
All Hasegawa kits we sell are new. Please be aware that the new US importer of Hasegawa (Hobbico/Great Planes) is no longer shrinkwrapping any kits. Thus any Hasegawa kits you order will likely come without skrinkwrap. The previous importer (DragonUSA) used to skrinkwrap all the kits they imported. We assume this is a cost cutting measure by the new importer (Hobbico/Great Planes) although the SRP for Hasegawa kits as set by Hobbico/Great Planes is relatively unchanged.
Apologies if this has been posted before, I found it quite interesting and wonder how it would affect second hand sales? As a buyer myself, I don't care so much about exterior shrink wrap as long as the inside bags are sealed, so perhaps is of no great concern.


 :unsure:
 
IN OTHER NEWS:
;D ;D ;D

I love it.  So I'm joined to the "Wings of Russia" facebook page (neat page) and someone asked if anyone in the group built models as well of the Russian aircraft.  :wacko: :wacko:

Well you know what that means!! Time to confuse the masses with the WHIF builds!!  I didn't post the historically accurate double seats Yak 9 first, oh no...  I had to post the NMF MiG 27 in 1950's USAF attire first!!    :wacko: :wacko:    Stuff like this amuses me to no end... 

Anyway.  What to do today??  A couple weeks ago I made a lot of GOOD progress toward getting this place cleaned up and organized. I would like to get back to doing that. When I first arranged the furniture in this room, I did a poor job of it.  There's even a never used, mainly empty computer desk with lots of shelving and a cabinet directly behind me. With the way things are now I can't even use it. If I can finally get a handle on things I'd like to move it forward to where I am sitting now and re-arrange the furniture so I can even get to the thing. Easier said than done with all the CRAP in here!!

First step is getting my meager kit stash organized... including getting rid of old boxes... I just going to slice the tops and some sides off and keep 'em as mementos but keeping whole boxes is dumb unless I'm using them to store things.

Wish me luck on this stuff.... sheesh.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on June 30, 2017, 06:30:27 am
Staged?  Never!  :o
Even if they are not shrink wrapped they tend to have some sort of seal to keep the lid on and sticky fingers out.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 01, 2017, 08:47:01 am
 :unsure: :unsure:

UGH... Trudging along, now. Trying to get this room fixed. If I can stick with it, I could reach my goal by evening.  Having this accomplished will speed things up and make things so much easier in the future.... a couple days of work to save countless hours in the future seems like a good investment to me.

So far, I've been trying to get things OUT of here completely. Some will surely trickle back in over time... but for now.. if it's not something I want in here it will be helpful to have it out of the way.  About done with that. I've managed to pigeon hole a bunch of my MTG stuff into the buffet cabinet I have in here. The Computer desk is 90% emptied and all the heavy stuff is out of it. I just need to get back going through my kits so I can get rid of the empties and stuff and more-better stack it all.   ;D  Its going to be a two phase type deal. Once the trash is out and all the loose items and what not put together I will stack things in one corner so I can do the re-arranging of furniture. Once that it done, the final storing places will be mapped out and I will finally be on the down hill slide!

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 01, 2017, 03:39:31 pm
Getting very close to making this furniture moving stuff a reality! I could do it now, in fact, but I want to do a little more organizing my kit stash first. That said... the desk is cleared out and broken into two pieces and there is enough open space in the room now where I could move things into their new spaces. I had to stop working though to run out to the contract property where I pick up garbage. Turns out some douchebags unloaded an entire Uhaul worth of household stuff around back by the dumpsters. Everything from bottles of barbecue sauce to mattresses to couches and appliances. STUFF EVERYWHERE!! So I blew a couple hours messing with that ...... went out and tried to catch them in the act, found some stuff with address on it, went looking around nearby neighborhoods for uhauls, etc...   lost my head of steam... got all upset and lost my motivation.  Then, to top it all off, I whine about it on Facebook and people are telling me I should just blow half a day, my gas and oil and time, pay my worker, etc etc and just haul all this stuff of for free like I'm out here playing checkers or something instead of running a damn business. I swear man... some things really piss me off and that's one of them. "Oh just take it to dump it's free to get rid of it!!"  Yeah but who is going to pay me to do so?? "charitable contribution take it and resell it and give it to charity blah blah blah get tax deduction "like I have time for that poo-poo. Name me a company that operates not by getting paid but by going around doing pro bono work.....  PFFT... none that are of my type. I don't run a thrift shop and I don't work for free. Some people give me the impression that they think I just play around all damn day instead of running a legit business.

RANT OFF.  Sorry.. I just need to vent.

ANYWAY.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

After I cool my jets I'll likely start playing Warthunder instead of more organizing.  ;D ;D   One more day, max, though!! Not much left now... just a couple boxes of stuff just thrown in there... things like old sprues I've been saving, the empty boxes, etc etc and other random stuff that needs to be organized.   SO... within a day or two or 3 I will have a REVAMPED, streamlined, LUXURIOUS work space!! It's going to be awesome!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 02, 2017, 03:28:05 am
I detest fly tippers.  Antisocial fornication-knuckles who should be beaten with their own garbage.

When I worked for the railway one of my responsibilities was sorting out removal of dumped rubbish from the trackside.
We had people whose houses backed onto the railway who would chuck their crap over the wall and then complain about being there.  That they had put it there was obvious (we are talking fridges and couches) but unless there was a witness to them dumping it or (better still) film of them doing so then nothing could be done other than remove it.  A letter or envelope with an address wouldn't cut it as evidence unfortunately.
I was all for tossing it back but that wasn't allowed.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 02, 2017, 07:37:28 am
That they had put it there was obvious (we are talking fridges and couches) but unless there was a witness to them dumping it or (better still) film of them doing so then nothing could be done other than remove it.  A letter or envelope with an address wouldn't cut it as evidence unfortunately.



I think the law or at least some local bye laws may have changed now. Swear I read about people being prosecuted on the basis of envelopes etc ?

We had a guy dump a lorry load of rubbish in the middle of a very busy road at about 2.am the other day ! Fines aren't big enough if it's worth taking the risk.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 02, 2017, 07:52:50 am
Here's the one that gets me.....   People that were obviously on the way to the landfill/dump...... but they get about a mile away and say, "EHHHHY   #$^@ it" and decide to just stop right there on the side of the road and offload everything. Every road out there that leads to our dump and some of the side roads (other than the main highway) have couches and other things sitting at the side. Why not just drive the extra mile or so? The dump is free, for sure if you have a utility bill with you address on it, and it would seem you were already on the way there?  :o ;D  It's weird, man.  :rolleyes: ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 02, 2017, 08:16:58 am
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 05, 2017, 10:29:58 am
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 05, 2017, 12:41:40 pm
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:

Shame on you, bad boy! ;D Laziness is almost like a sickness, and it's been hurting my modelling... these last weeks, i've been so lazy after work that i haven't even thought of my YF-23... :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 05, 2017, 01:36:23 pm
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:

Shame on you, bad boy! ;D Laziness is almost like a sickness, and it's been hurting my modelling... these last weeks, i've been so lazy after work that i haven't even thought of my YF-23... :o

BBBbb-bbB-BB-BRaaaad.... Brad to the bone. I rolled back a thousand carts, before I met youuuuu.....  I will roll back a thousand more, except maybe one or two.... cuz I'm Brad... Brad to the bonnnnnne....  ddoodododododododo

I feel you on the laziness going around right now. Summer time just ain't the time for extra work to be done.  :banghead: :wacko:  Sometimes when I get home I'm too tired to even turn on the TV. I just sit here in my chair for 2-3 hours.   ;D

 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on July 05, 2017, 02:00:19 pm
Sometimes when I get home I'm too tired to even turn on the TV. I just sit here in my chair for 2-3 hours.   ;D

You're not married, are you! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 05, 2017, 02:43:35 pm
BBBbb-bbB-BB-BRaaaad.... Brad to the bone. I rolled back a thousand carts, before I met youuuuu.....  I will roll back a thousand more, except maybe one or two.... cuz I'm Brad... Brad to the bonnnnnne....  ddoodododododododo

 ;D That's the ringtone i'm using on my iphone...   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 05, 2017, 04:02:54 pm
Sometimes when I get home I'm too tired to even turn on the TV. I just sit here in my chair for 2-3 hours.   ;D

You're not married, are you! ;D ;D ;D

LMAO...  it's glaringly obvious, isn't it?   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 05, 2017, 04:06:10 pm
OK!  I'm within 3-4 hours of having this hobby room in ship shape...  I've torn apart the entire room... all of it....  and made piles.. and re-organized from the bottom up. I'm down to this pile of crap and a couple other small ones...   I AM GETTING THERE...  I've already done all the furniture moving with the exception of minor adjustments. I'm actually at the computer desk now, in fact!

Feast your eyes. . .. .     

(http://i.imgur.com/eef1KWO.jpg)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 05, 2017, 04:06:51 pm
BBBbb-bbB-BB-BRaaaad.... Brad to the bone. I rolled back a thousand carts, before I met youuuuu.....  I will roll back a thousand more, except maybe one or two.... cuz I'm Brad... Brad to the bonnnnnne....  ddoodododododododo

 ;D That's the ringtone i'm using on my iphone...   :thumbsup:

No way!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D  That's glorious. . ..     ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 07, 2017, 01:49:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/mCsvp2f.jpg)

 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 07, 2017, 02:01:00 pm
;D LMFAO!!!! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on July 07, 2017, 06:14:59 pm
That's brilliant!

And somehow, explains sooo much...

I always thought there was some sort of conspiracy somewhere, though I'd put it down to the 'Greys' - or Quantum... somehow, it's usually Quantum's fault...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 07, 2017, 06:24:00 pm
 ;D ;D ;D


In a similar vein, I just blew 3 hours looking for PE parts.  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 07, 2017, 06:40:45 pm
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:

I pick up other people's rubbish in the cemetery, on the beach or in the street.  I think in the back of my mind i'm hoping that someone will see me and it'll shame them into taking theirs home.  In the front of my mind I know that is never going to happen but still...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 07, 2017, 06:58:09 pm
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:

I pick up other people's rubbish in the cemetery, on the beach or in the street.  I think in the back of my mind i'm hoping that someone will see me and it'll shame them into taking theirs home.  In the front of my mind I know that is never going to happen but still...

No way, it works!   Well.. at least some of the time. Coming full circle now..  A few months ago I was sitting here when I saw the guy that walks his dog in this empty lot directly North of the property here. He doesn't own it or anything.. no obligation, yet, I saw him take the time to go around and pick up every scrap of trash. I was impressed.  Fast forward 5-6 days later and I'm on the outside of the fence on the north side of the property just across from said lot kicking and throwing trash into the street because I was about to mow. After a couple minutes it hit me... "hey, all this crap is going to blow right over there and he just picked it all up..."   Next thing ya know.. I picked up all the trash out of the street and elsewhere around and properly disposed of it. If I hadn't seen him doing his thing I wouldn't have stopped and done that.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on July 07, 2017, 07:13:11 pm
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:

I pick up other people's rubbish in the cemetery, on the beach or in the street.  I think in the back of my mind i'm hoping that someone will see me and it'll shame them into taking theirs home.  In the front of my mind I know that is never going to happen but still...

No way, it works!   Well.. at least some of the time. Coming full circle now..  A few months ago I was sitting here when I saw the guy that walks his dog in this empty lot directly North of the property here. He doesn't own it or anything.. no obligation, yet, I saw him take the time to go around and pick up every scrap of trash. I was impressed.  Fast forward 5-6 days later and I'm on the outside of the fence on the north side of the property just across from said lot kicking and throwing trash into the street because I was about to mow. After a couple minutes it hit me... "hey, all this crap is going to blow right over there and he just picked it all up..."   Next thing ya know.. I picked up all the trash out of the street and elsewhere around and properly disposed of it. If I hadn't seen him doing his thing I wouldn't have stopped and done that.

Good for you, Bruh - I must admit that sometimes I get shamed into being responsible myself. Not always, though (hangs head in shame...)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 07, 2017, 07:21:54 pm
So, one down billions to go... ;D


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 07, 2017, 09:04:39 pm
One of the human race's great curses...laziness. And yes I am at times, although never if it means it inconveniences others (i hope)

I try to be the same way. Every once in awhile I have to catch myself.... like.. when I walk through my yard and kick garbage out into the street.   ;D  On one hand... I didn't put it there... on the other hand, why continue the chain of laziness? So I usually pick just it up...   :rolleyes:    Every once in awhile I don't bring my shopping cart back to the cubby hole, though...   :rolleyes:

I pick up other people's rubbish in the cemetery, on the beach or in the street.  I think in the back of my mind i'm hoping that someone will see me and it'll shame them into taking theirs home.  In the front of my mind I know that is never going to happen but still...

No way, it works!   Well.. at least some of the time. Coming full circle now..  A few months ago I was sitting here when I saw the guy that walks his dog in this empty lot directly North of the property here. He doesn't own it or anything.. no obligation, yet, I saw him take the time to go around and pick up every scrap of trash. I was impressed.  Fast forward 5-6 days later and I'm on the outside of the fence on the north side of the property just across from said lot kicking and throwing trash into the street because I was about to mow. After a couple minutes it hit me... "hey, all this crap is going to blow right over there and he just picked it all up..."   Next thing ya know.. I picked up all the trash out of the street and elsewhere around and properly disposed of it. If I hadn't seen him doing his thing I wouldn't have stopped and done that.

Good for you, Bruh - I must admit that sometimes I get shamed into being responsible myself. Not always, though (hangs head in shame...)  :thumbsup:

Hell yeah, thanks! And uhh... if you aren't responsible AFTER being shamed that means you just DGAF.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

So, one down billions to go... ;D




LMAO....      That's how they built Rome... or some crap... something...   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on July 07, 2017, 09:47:14 pm
A bit like "How can you possibly eat a whole Elephant?"... One bite at a time.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 08:03:31 am
I wonder what elephant meat tastes like?  :unsure: ;D

ANYWAY!! GOOD LORD. So, employee didn't show up to work on Friday..... now it's been raining... etc etc. Things have been a nightmare lately and well... it's slowed me down considerably on my projected time to finish organizing this hobby room.  Half the time I just here shaking my head wondering who I pissed off in the last life time and lamenting the fact that people in general these days seem to be so unreliable?  :rolleyes:  Ah well...  Seeing as how it's raining I did my couple hours of picking up trash (partly in the middle of a downpour  ;D  :o ) then made it back home by 8AM!  So.. I have whole entire day to GET THIS FINISHED. Time for the big push. I haven't worked on a kit in a least a week and I'm itching to get back to it. I need to get back to work on the on going projects because I keep daydreaming about new ones and am right on the verge of starting them instead of getting done the stuff I already started!  ;D

That said, I did find time finally to play around with some of my stash kits and I have gotten some stuff together for my first true kitbash....   going to do some wing swapping. I have the old 70's Hasegawa MiG 21 which is perfect for whiffing because of the innaccuracies in the kit so I figured I'd use that. Then I have my F4 Phantom that I'm going to close up part of the cockpit to make into a single canopy bird so I decided to steal the wings and tail planes out it to glue onto the MiG 21 fuselage. By golly they damn near fit on there perfectly!! I'll need very little filler to get rid of the gap and the tail planes also fit extremely well. Going to leave the fin on there. But.. yeah, I'm going to build a MiG 21 with Phantom wings. It's going to be for the Royal Mayan Air Force. Will have some jungle camo. Not sure what role I'll have it in... likely an interceptor or maybe a Mayan Wild Weasel or some such I dunno...  I have some transfers ready to go for it already as far as roundels and such, just need some letters and numbers and other little odds and ends that might help.

But.. enough of that. Time to concentrate on what is going on NOW and get back to work on this organizing. Hopefully at some point in the afternoon I can get back to work on the Nipples Go. I think all I need to do is sand once more along wing roots then I need to mask them stupid little windows.  ;D ;D

TTYL
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 09, 2017, 08:49:22 am
Hope you find someone reliable soon, it sucks to be let down in a situation like yours.
Now, re Phantomised Mig-21 weasels, how about some pics for us? ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 09:00:10 am
Stand by!!  I'm nearly done with the actual furniture moving and vacuuming and stuff then it's a matter of just going through a couple odd boxes that I piled all my supplies into..  going to populate all these shelves and stuff and then it's play time.   :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

But yeah... I'll grab me masking tape and mock up the fuselage halves and wings. It all looks surprisingly coherent and fits together well. Seems apt for the two worthy opponents... probably the two most iconic adversaries of the SEA conflict. Why not mash 'em together?!   ;D

I have to stop and cram vittles in my face pretty soon but it shouldn't be more than another hour or two then C.R.A.P. is ready to begin movement once again, producing T.U.R.D.s (Totally Ultimate Radical Designs, bruh!) from the bowels of this illustrious new production facility!!! WOOOO!!   :::flips table::::

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 09, 2017, 09:22:41 am
I have to stop and cram vittles in my face pretty soon but it shouldn't be more than another hour or two then C.R.A.P. is ready to begin movement once again, producing T.U.R.D.s (Totally Ultimate Radical Designs, bruh!) from the bowels of this illustrious new production facility!!! WOOOO!!   :::flips table::::

LMFAO!! T.U.R.D.s out of C.R.A.P.!! Superb acronym creation going on there... ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 10:10:31 am
I have to stop and cram vittles in my face pretty soon but it shouldn't be more than another hour or two then C.R.A.P. is ready to begin movement once again, producing T.U.R.D.s (Totally Ultimate Radical Designs, bruh!) from the bowels of this illustrious new production facility!!! WOOOO!!   :::flips table::::

LMFAO!! T.U.R.D.s out of C.R.A.P.!! Superb acronym creation going on there... ;D

Surprised the military isn't trying to recruit me for my acronym skills. You know how the military LOOOOOOOOVES acronyms.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 12:56:36 pm
Been done for almost an hour now. Just sitting around now like a walrus. I ate too much.  ;D

ANYWAY....  back to REAL work. I'm going to try to expedite the F-84 and Enterprise. I've dragged these out long enough and I'm ready to move on. I was going to even wait and order a new canopy for the F-84 but not any more. I'm going to just get on with the show and finish these off whether they look good or not. Should be alright though! The F-84 could use more paint. A quick bit of white on the fuselage then minor touch up on some of the black then I can paint the tinted canopy then glue it on. After than, all I need to do is gloss it.... then I can do transfers!!

Enterprise.... needs to be painted.... I started to paint it again after sanding but put the wrong color on it. lol   OH well, no harm... just kind of funny. After I paint it I can glue on the little fiddly pieces then I can gloss it. I could be done with it by later, no?  If I can just stay focused... . . .  :D 

Saving the Nipples plane for another day or possibly later if I get tired of the two doom projects.


FOR NOW... I'm going to take a break then mock up the Royal Mayan Air Force jet!  :laugh: :laugh:   Whilst doing this I will try to come up with a name and designation.  Sky is the limit, really, with going with the Mayans....   Might go with "I" for interceptor or maybe even resurrect "P" for pursuit. 

Small pic drop imminent. . .
Title: (C.R.A.P.): Royal Mayan Air Force KX-81 Kukulcan
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 01:51:24 pm
What if the Mayans never went away? What if they survived to contemporary times and have their own aircraft manufacturing an' all'at? 

Royal Mayan Air Force KX-81 Kukulcan (feathered serpent). KX being the first letters to the Mayan words for "Sky Demon" or "Sky Phantom".

(http://i.imgur.com/KAgiMFi.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZvzDTXf.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1bWIzL9.jpg)
In a way it reminds of an F-100....

Everything fits pretty nice. Of course... may have to make some adjustments along the way and I reserve the right to add even more neat stuff. Probably going to steal some weapons out of a 1/48 Skyray to make some sort of ... something. This is all alternate universe stuff so I can't really do anything wrong if you ask me.

This project is down the road just a little bit but as it is my first ever REAL kit bash I'm pretty stoked to get started! 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 09, 2017, 02:52:17 pm
 :o That looks terrific!!! :wub: Oh man, can wait to see that finished!!  And i also like the Mayan idea, that's what i call a true what-if! Excellent!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 03:18:30 pm
:o That looks terrific!!! :wub: Oh man, can wait to see that finished!!  And i also like the Mayan idea, that's what i call a true what-if! Excellent!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Thanks!! I can't wait to start on it. New territory for me and the part I like is that this all looks pretty easy to do. I'm going to have to butt-fit the wings and will have to watch to keep things from drooping. Then I'll have to saw the bottom wing halves off of the piece they are attached too, then it's just a matter of putty. I'll have to decide which gear set up to use...  I can use the set that attaches to the fuselage (MiG 21) or I can use the Phantom gear that extend from the wings.  If I do that, it will give it the cool looking nose-up stance like so many carrier aircraft have.  Might have the tail too close to the ground though.. I don't have the exhaust on there and it might protrude too far and sit too close to the ground. We'll see!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: AXU on July 09, 2017, 03:31:04 pm
How the Mayan markings will look like?
Interesting project  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on July 09, 2017, 03:43:15 pm
Looking interesting.

I'd use the F-4 undercarriage, with a big wing like that you'd probably want a wider track for ground stability.
If the tailpipe is too close to the ground, how about shortening the nosegear leg?

Would it work to make up a wing spar to keep them straight and non-droopy? You could pass it through a slot in the fuselage.

HTH
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 04:58:03 pm
How the Mayan markings will look like?
Interesting project  :thumbsup:

Honestly?  I'm just going to use Guatemalan roundels.. .. .  ;D   I figure what the heck.. makes it easy on me and I like the way they look. I have an ESCI sheet of transfers. Some are all crooked and will need to be trimmed but certainly usable! As for the rest... well, I'll come up with it all from my imagination.. as far as numbers, letters, placements, and other little types of things. I'm already planning to do a "Sundowners" scheme on the fin but in subdued colors.. like the sun and rays in green and the background in tan or neutral gray. so I can still have the effect but maintain the camoflage type thing going on. Wouldn't make much sense to have a bright colorful fin on a camouflaged plane.

(http://i.imgur.com/P7aXkB1.jpg) What an amazing coincidence that in this alternate universe the Mayans came up with the same design at the Guatemalans!  :o ;D   It works... because it could be interpreted as being the sun which was big in the Mayan culture.   

Looking interesting.

I'd use the F-4 undercarriage, with a big wing like that you'd probably want a wider track for ground stability.
If the tailpipe is too close to the ground, how about shortening the nosegear leg?

Would it work to make up a wing spar to keep them straight and non-droopy? You could pass it through a slot in the fuselage.

HTH

Great ideas and both I hadn't considered. I can either shorten the nose gear or extend the main gear... or some combination for a happy medium.

As far as spars go... that's a great idea that I'd like to try. Would be my my first time attempting it. I don't think it would be all too difficult to achieve. Using the holes already in the fuselage for the wings I could put something through there and it would be nice and level without me having to worry about it..it's then just a matter of properly putting holes into the wings themselves. I can try it and if all else fails go back to just butting them. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 05:14:12 pm
Oh and don't let me forget! I want to copy the Australian Army Aviation camo on it...     like this... 

(http://i.imgur.com/8nNDxXs.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 09, 2017, 05:16:20 pm
I'm liking that Mig very much already, it's gonna be a beauty for sure! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 09, 2017, 05:29:38 pm
Mikoyan-Douglas (MiD) or McDonnell-Gurevich (MoG)?

 ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 09, 2017, 06:10:43 pm
Mikoyan-Douglas (MiD) or McDonnell-Gurevich (MoG)?

 ;D

I like MoG.   Could be the MoG-Hog.  :mellow: :mellow:   May as well be a FiG.... for FIGMENT of my imagination and now in retrospect "Figment" might have been a worthy reporting name back in the Soviet GB.  :o

Coincidentally the sheet of transfers above is where I'm sourcing the star and bar for the C-Fury.  ;D    I just have to trim that nasty yellow crap from the borders.  :rolleyes: :lol: 

EDIT:  Hello kitty?  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 09, 2017, 11:15:05 pm
I like MoG.   Could be the MoG-Hog.  :mellow: :mellow:   May as well be a FiG.... for FIGMENT of my imagination and now in retrospect "Figment" might have been a worthy reporting name back in the Soviet GB.  :o

So, would it be a FIG-21 Fishphantom or Phantomfish, or even Phantombed or Bedphantom?   :rolleyes: ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: AXU on July 10, 2017, 02:42:56 am
How the Mayan markings will look like?
Interesting project  :thumbsup:

Honestly?  I'm just going to use Guatemalan roundels...
What an amazing coincidence that in this alternate universe the Mayans came up with the same design at the Guatemalans!  :o ;D   It works... because it could be interpreted as being the sun which was big in the Mayan culture.   

Good choice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 10, 2017, 04:27:20 am
EDIT:  Hello kitty?  ;D

Gun Kitty - Say hello to my little friend...
 :wacko:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 10, 2017, 06:20:10 am
I wonder what elephant meat tastes like?  :unsure: ;D



Well a Hotel I stayed in in Kenya served crocodile, zebra and gazelle amongst others - no elephant though. As I figured zebra would be akin to horse meat and gazelle to venison (both of which I've eaten) I had the crocodile. Interesting, a little tough and not much flavour.

I like the Mayan idea. Mayan/Aztec/Inca Empires in conflict perhaps ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 11, 2017, 01:22:20 am
...I had the crocodile...

You obviously told them to "make it snappy"...   ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 11, 2017, 02:35:03 am
No, but only because I didn't think of it at the time  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 03:21:42 am
I like MoG.   Could be the MoG-Hog.  :mellow: :mellow:   May as well be a FiG.... for FIGMENT of my imagination and now in retrospect "Figment" might have been a worthy reporting name back in the Soviet GB.  :o
Bedphantom?   :rolleyes: ;D

 ;D ;D

How the Mayan markings will look like?
Interesting project  :thumbsup:

Honestly?  I'm just going to use Guatemalan roundels...
What an amazing coincidence that in this alternate universe the Mayans came up with the same design at the Guatemalans!  :o ;D   It works... because it could be interpreted as being the sun which was big in the Mayan culture.   

Good choice  :thumbsup:

Thanks! As far as the actual camo itself I'd like to come up with a totally new pattern.. never before seen... I have some ideas but I might need to test them on my test bed plane.

EDIT:  Hello kitty?  ;D

Gun Kitty - Say hello to my little friend...
 :wacko:
Works for me!!  Cute and Violent go hand in hand.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 03:28:09 am
I wonder what elephant meat tastes like?  :unsure: ;D



Well a Hotel I stayed in in Kenya served crocodile, zebra and gazelle amongst others - no elephant though. As I figured zebra would be akin to horse meat and gazelle to venison (both of which I've eaten) I had the crocodile. Interesting, a little tough and not much flavour.

I like the Mayan idea. Mayan/Aztec/Inca Empires in conflict perhaps ?
Definitely was thinkin of something Aztec. The camo pattern would be a hoot.... Aztec pattern, naturally.  Considering some sort of blocky pattern for this bird here in fact. But anyway... as far as all that goes... why not global conflict?  Roman Empire?? Vikings??  Mongols??  ::shrug::


In other news... I've been pretty busy lately and not feeling the best. Exhausted and heat-sick and all that. Haven't been getting much done but I DID work on the 1/2500 Enterprise the other day. Painting on it. I've gotten most of it done. I need to paint some hilights on it around the impulse engines and some of the silvery crap on the nacelles then I can go ahead and glue on the last little pieces then clear coat it and apply transfers. I aim to be done with it by the end of the day.

To that end, I need to check my stand!!  I think it SHOULD finally be dry enough all the way to start polishing on it. I'm going to try my 2500 grit stuff and see what happens. I may have to go back in for a couple more coats of the gloss black. 

Going to also work on the F-84 some. I painted the frame work on the canopy the other day, I just need to paint on the vinyl support webbing then I think......   I just need to touch up some black a tiny bit then I can gloss it, too. I'd like to gloss it the same time I gloss the Enterprise then I can do transfers on both at the same time maybe?  I think it would work well... work on one then let it dry up while I work on the other to keep from messing them up by accidentally touching the fresh transfers.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 03:33:01 am
Ain't much to look at thanks to my lousy photography skills but believe me... the paint is 100% better now and most of the other body work issues have been sorted. I've manage not to snap the engine-twigs so far, too.  :thumbsup:

(http://i.imgur.com/BeAlHIP.jpg)
Title: Re: (C.R.A.P.): Royal Mayan Air Force KX-81 Kukulcan
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 15, 2017, 04:57:51 am
What if the Mayans never went away? What if they survived to contemporary times and have their own aircraft manufacturing an' all'at? 
....

Welcome to the Anachronistic Madness!  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 10:53:39 am
What if the Mayans never went away? What if they survived to contemporary times and have their own aircraft manufacturing an' all'at? 
....

Welcome to the Anachronistic Madness!  ;) :thumbsup:

Thank ye, kindly! So far I like the digs and just might stay awhile.   :angel: ;D :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 02:21:02 pm
My own crappy skills and lack there of strike yet again!!!!  I failed to dry fit the deflector dish and the part it connects with to the secondary hull. Go figure... I get ready to actually put it on so I dry fit it, now, as a practice run.. OH crap, it doesn't fit.... maybe I can apply a little bit of force. . .. . .  .. ..  and get it to.... *snap* into place. . .. . .. . . .


......     There goes the $#%&#^&% deflector dish..... there goes a percentage of the paint I put on it and the hull....... there goes the #$%#%&^&$%  port Engine-Twig.  #%^&$^#$^&*$$^%$&

PISS... so now I'm re gluing... re painting...... re sanding and filing and of course at this stage I can't get it back as good as it was without setting it down and bringing out more heavy artillery once again. It's just going to have to stay. This thing has flaws ALL OVER the place. What can I say?  When I started it months ago I was less skilled and had less supplies than I needed and am still suffering lack of adequate supplies and skill. I have more of each and things are definitely improving but I can only polish a C.R.A.P. for so long. The flaws will just have to stay. The glue cluster that I lovingly sanded and filed away is now back (although I took steps to smooth it... now I'd have to sand and file and sand and file again... not going to happen). Paint finish is no longer as smooth as it was a couple day ago... etc.  Truth of the matter is this is a very old mold that wasn't that great to begin with so this isn't ALL my fault. I didn't cast the non-fitting parts that need surgery and the ridiculous raised window detail. I mean.. I can keep beating myself up but honestly this kit itself has a lot of inherent flaws. That and it's small. Smallest kit I've ever dealt with and I don't consider painting 1/700 aircraft as "kit building."   ;D  Not to say there is no skill in painting them but as far as assembly goes? Not a lot going on.... so I don't count them.   ;D

No worries...  I'm going to press on. I've " fixed "  (big quotes here) the screw ups and might slap another coat of paint on the port side of the secondary hull but that's it. I'll gloss it then it is ready for transfers. Ya know... for the size of this thing... it should be just fine. The painting is pretty neat. There's about 5-6 different colors painted on in various places and the transfers will add a lot to the project, as well!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 02:50:50 pm
TYPICAL.

About 30 minutes ago ....or less...  I looked out the window and studied the wind for a minute. Nearly dead calm. Nothing moving hardly... looking at trees... the slightest breeze has the leaves and branches moving all over the place so them sitting nearly perfectly still was a good indicator that... hey... the wind isn't blowing. So, I stop to make the last post then do a couple touch ups with paint then collect all this stuff and go outside...   only to be met with wind so bad that my projects were spinning and waving like a flag in the breeze.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:   

This is a lot like how I'll go out and be mowing all day in the heat with not a cloud in the sky and no wind then when I get home all of a sudden there's a nice breeze and it clouds up and shades everything nicely. It's like... why can't this happen when I NEED it?!?!?!?   ;D ;D ;D

ANYWAY, I hung the malarkey up on the chandelier and some at some point this week I'll clear 'em up.  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/3nVZp4f.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on July 15, 2017, 06:21:50 pm
It's called "O'Toole's Law", Brad, & states that "Murphy was an optimist!" :-\

And it happens to all of us, believe me! :o
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 15, 2017, 06:54:07 pm
That's the law I've been violating this whole time and now I know what it is!

I suspected that that "Murphy's" stuff was just child's play anyway.  ;D ;D ;D

In other news... I was downstairs a bit ago preparing the glorious feast for this evening when I noticed the anti-modelling maelstrom had subsided a bit so I took my wares outside and glossed them both. I tried to pay attention and do it correctly but I always seem to get carried away spraying...  never the less, rather than prolong the agony, I simply put the cap back on the can and re-hung the projects from the chandelier. I'll hope and pray that I didn't lay it on too thick and create a bunch of crazing.

 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 16, 2017, 07:17:54 am
Neat use for a chandelier  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 03:35:53 am
Yeah, it's pretty handy!!  Improvising on the spot and what not....  And heck, with the lights on, it provides a small bit of radiant heat that helps things dry up and the AC register is nearby, too... just gotta watch out for dust. I should have dusted the thing before I hung my wares up but I only knocked one little dust bunny off and I think it went right past the work.

The gloss coats appear to be in good shape on both projects!!! Time for transfers today! I'm not sure when or if I'll get to it... first time in a good while that I DON'T have any paying lawns to do today after I go out and pick up garbage. This means I now have to make an attempt on the gargantuan yard here at home (and also wash my dog... poor lil feller has grass allergy). It normally takes about 4 hours if things are going smoothly but things are NOT going smoothly so more like 6 hours. I'll either be working on it until about 2 PM, which is bunk, it'll easily be up around 100 by then (and still humid around here) or I'll have to break the project up into two days. This is more likely so that I'll have time and energy left to wash Buddy. lol 

Lil turd... he doesn't like baths. I have to pick him up and carry him out to the water spout then hold his collar as I soap him up. He normally does pretty well at this stage but when it come time for the rinse he turns into a wild stallion and tries to run off. It's all I can do to keep him stationary and it's rough on my back and takes a good amount of sheer strength and gusto to hold on to time. In short, it's no easy task!!

Oddly enough, the stand still has a bit of tackiness to it and still is emitting paint smells so I need to let it sit a few more days. This ridiculous humidity around here is slowing things down. That said, I can do some sanding on the Nipples-Go later if I get done with transfers in time. It struck me that I can go ahead and prime this up and even start putting on the gloss coats of black. Have to mask first... still not decided on how to do that. I have half a mind to use one solid strip across the windows which of course will leave a different shade of silver color there. This could potentially work because "window frames" but then again I don't think it would be correct so I'll likely be masking each individual window. Not a fan of masking in this fashion but it should go pretty quickly if I just put my head down and do it.

TTYL
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 17, 2017, 05:39:38 am


Lil turd... he doesn't like baths. I have to pick him up and carry him out to the water spout then hold his collar as I soap him up. He normally does pretty well at this stage but when it come time for the rinse he turns into a wild stallion and tries to run off. It's all I can do to keep him stationary and it's rough on my back and takes a good amount of sheer strength and gusto to hold on to time. In short, it's no easy task!!



That's exactly what my Doberman used to do. She'd finally appear to relent when being soaped and then as soon as you relaxed your grip she'd be off like a rocket  ;D And yet at the seaside or near rivers and lakes you had to keep a tight rein on her or she'd be in  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 07:35:51 am


Lil turd... he doesn't like baths. I have to pick him up and carry him out to the water spout then hold his collar as I soap him up. He normally does pretty well at this stage but when it come time for the rinse he turns into a wild stallion and tries to run off. It's all I can do to keep him stationary and it's rough on my back and takes a good amount of sheer strength and gusto to hold on to time. In short, it's no easy task!!



That's exactly what my Doberman used to do. She'd finally appear to relent when being soaped and then as soon as you relaxed your grip she'd be off like a rocket  ;D And yet at the seaside or near rivers and lakes you had to keep a tight rein on her or she'd be in  :banghead:

 ;D ;D   Ironic, innit!!!!! 

Mine is like a cat. I've never had him around lakes or ponds or anything but he treats the kiddie pool I fill up with water in the summer time as if it were full of lava and mailmen.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 02:51:29 pm
Decalling is going SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW and I mean slow...  I got started around 3 hours ago and am probably about 20% done with each.  The F-84 slowed me down because I can't make much sense out of the transfer I chose for it and some are falling apart, etc. I'm having to improvise on the fly. It's actually kind of fun! This is a strange looking plane, though.... I'm not sure how good it's going to look, even after all the transfers are on, which normally ties everything together and makes the build *pop*.

Oh and by the way, those crazy Molossians paint their canopy reinforcing vinyl webbing black to match the limo tint, those nutters!  ;D ;D  (Yeah, I'm fast tracking... I started painting them white like the would be normally but just wasn't feeling it).

Enterprise... well.....Go figure.. again, not dry fitting is killing me. Transfers this time....I'm having to cut pieces out of them so they can fit around protrusions and raised areas and to deal with elevation changes. Sheesh... had to do one while it was wet already. I have got to learn to remember to test fit everything including the transfers!!! I normally do, though, but I always seem to forget one or two things which is always more than enough to wreck things.  :rolleyes:

Oh well.. I should be finished with at least the Enterprise. the F-84 still needs all the fiddly stuff like gear and gear doors glued on so I might not get to it this evening. We'll see.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 05:10:23 pm
Wow!  I really thought I could just whip these transfers on at lightning speed. Wishful thinking!  ;D ;D     Most of the ones I was trying on the F-84 fell apart so that created all kinds of delay... mainly due to me brainstorming my way around the problem.

But that ain't nothing... this little Enterprise...man... out of the three kits that came in the box, this one has about 10X (seriously, not joking this time) the transfers of the other two...  possibly combined, and at 1/2500 scale they are TINY... ITTY BITTY... and as I said before... I'm having to trim them to fit the contours of this ship.   Not only that, I keep stumbling across things that are missing such as the landing pylons on the saucer section. I had to dive into my stash and find some adequate transfers then trim them to the proper shape and size. Thank God they didn't fall apart and are now happy at home on the bottom of the saucer section!!!  But yeah, there are, with the two I scratched up, FORTY in total.

That said.. these transfers are REEEEEEALLY bringing this one together!! I'm ALMOST half way done with them as far as count.... 22 still to go.... but already this thing is looking really cool!! 

Also had to stop and paint a few things that weren't provided in the kit transfers and weren't even mentioned in the instructions.

This is turning out to be a full "work day" of model building!  ;D

Should be done soon but, but I don't know. I'm off work tomorrow so I'm having a few beers and I may get to the point where the tiny transfers are just too much. Not to mention I have to apply more gloss after it all, so, there's also that needing done.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 06:02:04 pm
13 transfers to go! Down to the ones that make sense the most to put on last which are also some of the tiniest! Things are going well, however. I will be done with transfers in 30 mins or so then I will do another gloss coat.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: kerick on July 17, 2017, 07:01:20 pm
Careful! Don't rush it!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 07:24:58 pm
Roger that! 

I'm actually done decalling and it looks great! I'm going to gloss it here in a few.  Had to glue the deflector dish back on and I just couldn't get it to line back up the way it came off.. so I need to put a tiny bit of gold paint on it (waiting on the CA to dry... ) to cover the gap. No worries. I'll do that in a minute then let it gry then I can gloss it. 'Bout an hour from now I should be able to provide pictures.

For all the things I messed up, I think this lil feller WANTED to be finished because it turned out really good! There're flaws here and there but the overall product is neat! I really like it.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 17, 2017, 08:03:19 pm
I go outside and am immediately pissed off.  (LOL)   No matter what side of the house I go to...... WIND.  And this is bunk! It's 10 o'clock at night!! I HATE Oklahoma weather!  No matter.....  I hung the starship on an ornament hanger then hung it from a clothes hanger then stepped inside my shop...  I figure if I just stand there and hold it... then spray.. I'm good and also won't lace my arm and hand up with gloss coat.  ;D   

It worked well if I didn't spray too much. Seems like it should be a done deal, now. I have it hanging from the chandalier once again. I'll check it in an hour or so..   :lol: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 18, 2017, 08:28:52 am
Enterprise is looking good!! I struggled with taking pictures but I think I got some good ones.

(http://i.imgur.com/0DjyS4c.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/u83VHZp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/56AgMvs.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0mUJKIH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HlTjrGA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VHO0Vc2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jPcnkET.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7Do5SAx.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AwnRogM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/P1V0fYU.jpg)



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 02:45:32 am
Woke up at 3 AM today so I could get done with work early before the heat is too much and so that I can get back to model building!!

Going to finish up the F-84 today.  Transfers are half done then it's time to glue on all da fiddly bits. 

After that... I'd like to stop and repair four 1/700 Mustangs that I have. I bought a lot off ebay for $4 shipping and all..... 12 built 1/700 models. 4 Me 262s, 4 163s, and 4 Mustangs. Problem is... I wasn't very careful when I opened the box and knocked off one propeller on each of the Mustangs! Bollocks!! Tinier than...well... I dunno.. they're so small but I managed to find 3 of them and will have to scratch up a fourth then it's time to break out the glue and fine tipped needle nosed reverse action tweezers to put them on.  Ought to be interesting....   I'll provide pics, too, because ol' boy that built these little fellers did an EXCELLENT job.

Next after that I'd like to look at my defunct 25 year stalled Space Shuttle project. I stupidly broke off all the engine nozzles thinking it was a good idea as part of the refurbish. I'll be gluing them back on if I can... they came off all wrong and it wasn't pretty.. I should have left them on there and just masked them over. OH WELL, lesson learned.

Beyond that.. I'm considering doing a build for the Sci Fi GB. I have a Ferengi ship I'd like to build in a Starfleet livery but I don't have any transfers. I might be able to find some in the internet but the price has to be right. It's going to be a "Captured" ship re-christened U.S.S. (Billy) Mays NCC-1995. 

I don't know if I'll get this far today or not because I have tons of yard work and house chores to do, too.  Beyond THIS stuff, I have other stalled projects I'd like to work on. I'm trying to take the opportunity to get all, or at least a bunch, of that stuff finished while the SF GB is going because I probably won't be participating with more than one build. This could change... but... I'm really lacking in suitable kits and ideas right now. We'll see...

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 19, 2017, 05:41:23 am
That would have been an interesting episode  ;)

Reminds me a little of one of my favourite Far Side cartoons. ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 09:01:48 am
EDIT:  First off, these were built by ebayer mntjulp.  Just superb.  He says, "I've hand-painted them and added scratch details including props, guns, antennae and tail wheels.  At 1/700 scale they are very small with wingspans of about 5/8". "

OK....  Tedium first....   the 1/700 Mustang repair project.

I managed to lose one of the props....   and also break another off so that's 2 I now need to scratch build. I was going to use the plastic off of the package that holds them cheap little Testors throw away brushed but it's WAAAAAAY too thick.. I'll have to find something else. Either way.... I DID manage to get 3 of 5 props glued back on. 2 Mustangs are now complete again. I would have done a third but the prop I was gluing on didn't match up with the others. One of the planes had "thinner" props on it.

(http://i.imgur.com/N5hrFqL.jpg)
Them little specks there....  are the props. 700 of them stacked end to end would be about the size of a real one. SMALL! 

(http://i.imgur.com/FLWPDqy.jpg)
1/72 props there for scale reference.

(http://i.imgur.com/HU770W0.jpg)
Komets... amazing that all 4 of those antennae are still intact... . ..

(http://i.imgur.com/bArDKpH.jpg)
Sturmvogels.  This dude that painted and put the transfers on these is good at what he does!

(http://i.imgur.com/Ladj3WV.jpg)
Mustangs!  Look how neat!!   

 :thumbsup:

Going to check up on lunch and try to find some thin clear plastic to cut up to make a couple more props. Might have to resort to cutting up a sandwhich baggy. Being so small, the, the pieces ought to be "stiff" enough despite being so thin. I have to get the correct thickness though or the new props simply won't look right.

 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 10:54:28 am
Making my own props wound up being a huge pain. I eventually used the thin plastic wrap that went around a roll of paper towels but cutting something so small without it disappearing instantly after is a task, indeed. Not to mention if I still have the tiny little thing, merely grasping it to get it to the work was difficult. I finally got them both on, however, but rubbed all my pen ink off so I'll try to come back in later and shade them up so they match the rest. Either way....they're on now!  Not too shab looking and I ain't complaining at this scale....  They look just fine. Damn near need a magnifying glass to see it all anyway.. 

(http://i.imgur.com/QNfugD8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kSTSDt2.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 19, 2017, 11:00:35 am
Those little birds look good, nice work on the props, i'd surely need a magnifying glass for them. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 12:18:09 pm
Aint them the coolest?! I'd rather build my own than buy completed models but these were so utterly cool... at the time my bid was the only one... at 99 cents and free shipping.. I was like "why not!!"" Then I kinda got worried because even if I didn't wind up with 'em I figured ol' boy who made 'em deserved more than a freaking dollar for these!!!!  Gllad other people finally bid...   It was up to $3.49 when I decided to leave for work. I threw another bid on there at $5.76 then let it roll... I think it went up to $3.79 or stayed at $3.49 but either way I didn't feel so bad then. I still think ol' boy deserved more than that for such fine work but hey... eBay... win some, lose some....



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 01:03:35 pm
F-84 transfers are done. They actually look pretty decent. I think the decalling process has helped matters. Still... this thing may go over like a lead balloon.. but... ehhh... it's damn sure a whif!! Ain't no other Thunderchunk quite like this'n.   :o ;D ;D ;D


Time to let the things dry a bit then on to gluing the wheels 'n junk on.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 02:11:03 pm
Alright!! Two models completed in two days! I feel like I'm getting somewhere, now!

Transfers all on and all fiddly parts glued on. Just went in for another gloss coat and it is hanging to dry. Pics to follow soon!  :laugh:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) -- Republic of Molossia F-84G -pics page 51-
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 04:15:58 pm
Shelf of doom project that I started months ago. I finally finished it up about an hour or so ago.

An F-84G in service to the Republic of Molossia.

(http://i.imgur.com/jbDX09X.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qgR3w6P.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DT39ZIT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/W33trEZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uIVeykY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yEIkowt.jpg)

(http://[Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/5apdlB8.jpg))

(http://i.imgur.com/mOmhQxD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GIiGJEg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yieBSVq.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jbDX09X.jpg)

Disaster on the canopy so I decided to "tint" it. I also painted the vinyl reinforcement webbing black, too, because ^#%^#^ it. Trying to clear the shelf of doom, not re-invent the wheel..

Ya know... these pictures turned out pretty good! Sometimes I swear I'm learning and getting better at taking pictures... then... sometimes not.  :o ;D ;D

Also.....  I'm really happy with how this turned out!!! I think it's neat!!! I was worried to death that it would turn into a flying turd but it's not so bad after all.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 19, 2017, 08:56:12 pm
Alright, glorious. Moving on! 

I finished some builds.

I think now I will try in earnest to fix my Space Shuttle.

It's been sitting around un finished for 25 years!! I can remember the very day that I got this kit. It was 1992 or so and we took a day trip to Texas. My folks wanted to buy the just started Texas Lotto scratch off tickets. Or something. Either way, we wound up somewhere and we bought this kit for seventy five cents.

Anyway I still have it and never finishedd it.  Still have all the transfers too. I just need to sand and file on it a bit then peraps I  can spray primer then go back in for more PSR.

I think it will be a neat project.     
 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 20, 2017, 05:54:04 am
Those little birds look good, nice work on the props, i'd surely need a magnifying glass for them. :thumbsup:

I'd probably need the Hubble  :banghead: Superb work on such tiny things  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

F.84 looks good, well done mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 20, 2017, 08:39:11 am
Yeah!! I can't believe people have the patience and...skill to work on such things. Amazing!  Well... have you seen the stuff like pencil lead carvings and the like?? People using stuff like microscopes and other..  uhh.. "micro-tools?"  Nutty stuff.  I have problems enough working on 1/72 scale things but stuff like that is... like.. I don't 1/10000000000 scale or some such.  :o ;D ;D

Thanks!!  F-84 is a champ in my book.. it turned out pretty decent, better than I thought it would, for sure!! It'll look great sitting on the shelf.  :lol:


On to the Space Shittle!  ;D ;D   First up is to glue the nozzles back on I think they ought to just go right back on the way the came off, no?????  Never seems that easy, though, does it.  ;D ;D ;D  Heck of a way to get back into a project though... fixing old, dumb mistakes. When I first started snapping them off I think I was thinking it would make it easy to uhh... paint the thing? Or something? I dunno.  :angel: ;D 

After that, I think I'm just going to wash the thing then mask up the areas needing masked. I tried taking the innards out;  this thing come with a payload,  but it just wouldn't snap free. I was afraid I was going to break something so I left it in there. Anyway... point being.. it'll have to stay inside the model which will make painting it all more difficult, but oh well!  Funnily enough, those 25 years ago, I did put ONE decal on this thing... the ESA (Europeans Space Agency) logo on the side of the "round thing" in there so I'll mask over that.

After I do the washing and masking I'm going to just go ahead and hit it with primer. I could start sanding on it first but I'm just going to go ahead and "help" myself out by highlighting all the flaws with the primer. Might serve to give me a feeling of getting more accomplished that way, too. Instead of looking at the same surface I've seen the last quarter century, I'll see primer instead. Make it feel like a new project instead of an old one! (Pyscho-modeling!)

Also... I think I'll grab the Ferengi ship I was talking about doing for the SF GB and have a look at the plastic and see if any Starfleet paint schemes jump out at me. I still need to find some transfers though! I could probably just paint the stuff, though.....   Numbers and letters are easy enough to come by, I suppose, but up and finding loose Starfleet transfer sheets is more problematic than it might seem. I had a look at Starshipmodler and they had nothing suitable.  I'll try eBay later but most likely I'm going to wind up just buying a sheet of letters and numbers and just masking and painting the rest. You know... the red striping and yellow deltas and all that crap. I think I've progressed far enough with my painting abilities that this almost sound like a BETTER idea than transfers anyway!!! Nothing lays flatter than paint...

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 20, 2017, 03:49:19 pm
YAYA! Love that F-84, very unusual and attractive scheme, excellent! :bow: :cheers:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 21, 2017, 02:51:01 am
Thanks! It's pretty neat. I thought it would be an Air-Turd but it turned into something quite nice I think. It utulizes my three favorite colors so that has a lot to do with it I suppose.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 21, 2017, 04:29:45 am
Cracking F84 Brad C.
 :thumbsup:

Is the colour scheme entirely your own invention or did you get inspired by something?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 21, 2017, 09:47:50 am
Cracking F84 Brad C.
 :thumbsup:

Is the colour scheme entirely your own invention or did you get inspired by something?

Thanks, bud!!

Well, the LAYOUT... was all mine.. but all I did was use the official State Colors of Molossia.

I forget which nation the flag belongs to, but, the cats over in Molossia just flipped it upside down and called it good. Works for me as it is a lovely flag upside down or not.  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/Ha9QqTW.jpg)

There are a whole slew of these Micro Nations... things like Sealand over in the U.K. , the "Conch Republic" here in the U.S., and a bunch of others....  just begging for someone to create their own armed forces (or non war monger stuff as well).

List o' Micro Nations:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 21, 2017, 11:18:44 am
Change of plans!!! Shuttle will have to wait. I was at the Hobby Lobby today looking around and catching some glorious Air Conditioning when I layed eyes on the very sanding cloth pad things I was needing to properly polish paint with!  So, back to the Nipples-Go project.

The stand is finally dry. No more smell and no longer tacky. So... I just need to grab me some water to use so I can wet sand and then work my way up the series of pads until I reach 12000. According to the tutorial thing I was working with..... by time I am finished with the last one this thing should be glassy smooth and very shiny.

(http://i.imgur.com/sSRMFNs.jpg)

Used my 40% off coupon to make it $6 instead of $10. I didn't budget for these cloth/pads. Was going to order them online next month but uhhh.... there they were in my face and the price was good with the coupon so I snagged 'em!  While I was there I also grabbed one of them helping hands things (working on the 1/700 stuff the other day pretty much had my mind made up.. wasn't sure I wanted or needed one but I think it will help out a lot in the future!)  I also picked up what is, supposedly, a quality SILVER pencil so I can start trying to simulate paint chipping and scratches with the goal in mind up increasing my weathering aptitude. I think I got the hang of an over all sludge wash but even things like oil stains and exhaust still elude me. Never really tried chipping, though, but I imagine if I take my time I could do pretty well with it.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on July 21, 2017, 01:35:15 pm
Good stuff! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 21, 2017, 02:10:43 pm
Certainly!   ;D


The stand... uhhh... I went back to the tutorial how-to thing and realized I forget to get liquid polish!!!  WOOPS!!  I proceeded without it as the stand is practice and I'm mainly concerned with how the different brands of paint will react with each other.

Here's the thing... I know very well that I didn't get all parts of the process quite right. For one thing, I didn't put enough coats of black on there...  (trying not to waste paint on this though.)  But in short... I was starting to sand through to the primer in a couple spots. Eh well, it's a good opportunity to see how the silver paint copes with going over a less than stellar paint finish. But...yeah, anyway... here's the thing... I did two mist coats then decided to stop "wasting" paint on this thing so went in for a wet coat.  Wow!!! Not perfect, by any means, but I'm impressed!! It really does look pretty good and I could see, although hazy, reflections in the finish. And this was before it had set up any....  I'll look at it again here in a bit. I'm not going to do anything else to it so I can go ahead and just leave it alone.. but... yeah, after it dries... I'm curious to see how it turned out!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on July 22, 2017, 04:40:08 pm
Hey, Brad

F-84 looks great, glad it turned out ok for you after all the hassle.  :thumbsup:

Big E looks fine, too - I don't remember all those small decals when I built mine, but if they had been there, I'm sure I wouldn't have finished it anyway!  ;D
There were a multitude of decals for the -A variant in the 3-set though,  so it evened out...  :-\

Re the generic Trek decals, try Federation Models

http://www.federationmodels.com/

or Starfighter Decals

http://www.starfighter-decals.com/federation-commander-decal-sets.html

I have some from JT-Graphics which are very nice and comprehensive, though are for the larger scale 1/1000 kits.
However, they also do 1/2500, among a range of other scales:

http://jt-graphics.com/D_2500.html

There are probably enough bits'n'bobs out there for all your needs, again it comes down to how much you want to spend.
(Sorry - I do seem to be good at finding ways for you to spend your money, don't I?)  ;)


Cheers

Rick
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 23, 2017, 03:16:35 am
Thanks!!

And yeah, other people better at spending my money for me than I am myself, always been that way!  :o ;D ;D ;D


I'll check those out!  I still need to grab the plastic for the kit. I purchased the three piece adversary set... the old one.. because I built them all 20+ years ago and had good memories with 'em. Anyway....    I keep forgetting to do this. I'll make it a point today then have a look at them sites.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 23, 2017, 08:32:33 am
Ahhhhh yiiiiiiiihhhhhh......  Back to work on the Mitsubishi! I sanded the seams on the tailplanes now it's time to glue on the main wings. Well, I need to sand the edges first, and do a little work on the butting surfaces, but that will only take about 5 minutes.

After that I'll have to look at the instructions again and tally up the parts that haven't been glued on yet and determine whether they come now or later... then it's window masking time.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 23, 2017, 09:06:48 am
PFFFFFFT.   :rolleyes:    I dry fitted the wings multiply times of the course of the build including about 15 minutes ago. Yet, in typical fashion, I go to put the starboard wing on and some how magically all of a sudden it won't fit into the slot. Not even close. What the hell changed in the last 15 minutes? All I did was glue the other wing on.  :::shrug::::  I dunno.   Oh well.. I had to really quickly file on the tab and finally got it to go in but not after a bunch of elbow grease buste the seam open on the rear edge of the wing.  :rolleyes:

Oh well.. no biggie. There's a huge gape between the wing and the fuselage but hey, I can fix that.

This isn't the first time this has happened. It's like.... magic. Application of glue causes the molecular structure to shift or something and the entire model changes shape all of a sudden. It doesn't make sense!  ;D ;D

Anyway... this is a bad omen so I'm not even going to touch the thing for the rest of the day. The glue needs to set up anyway and with the huge gap I could really mess it up if I touch it before it dries. Don't need no crooked droopy wings.


I think I'll finally grab my Ferengi ship and see what inspiration hits.  :lol:


EDIT: Got da munchies, too, time to plan for lunch.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 23, 2017, 12:49:01 pm
OK, I decided to go ahead and try at least one build for the SF GB. It's going to be a what if Ferengi Maurader Starfleet production ship. Painted all up in the glorious Starfleet colors... gone will be all the amber and orange and we'll be back to the gorious whites, greys, reds, and blues of the Federation.

Also, here's the current state of the Nipples-Go. Can't see the huge gap on the starboard wing root but it's there! I'll have to putty that up but no problem.

(http://i.imgur.com/Y6MUKwE.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 23, 2017, 01:48:38 pm
Hell, hows about another post why not?!

A sneak preview of a real world build I'd like to tackle probably around fall/winter this year. The venereal.... errr uhhh.... VENERABLE F-14 Tomcat. Going with the A version.   I've been collecting parts together for it for some time now. Going to be my first attempt at using photo-etch. So far...  I have the inside frame work and mirrors for the canopy, a full set of Bilek PAINTED (thank God) PE for the cockpit, and a PE ladder and steps for crew access. I also sprung for a really nice set of VF-84 transfers for my favorite.... JOLLY ROGERS.... chillin' on the U.S.S. Nimitz in the year of my birth, 1981. 

(http://i.imgur.com/IGjJZFw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dlwN0Kn.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yz7NDfN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UVPXeTI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6rxSgXn.jpg)

I think this sums up my modelling activities for today with a note to self and reminder that I need to go to the picture post aviation section and update my poor neglected "Chronic's finish builds thread."  I always seem to forget about it for some reason.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 25, 2017, 02:02:44 pm
Doing the same thing to two different projects. The Federation Maurader and Mitsu both are getting putty/more layers of glue as filler and some good old fashioned sanding.

About time to put things up and play Warthunder, though. I just recently unlocked the Pe-8 and I'm bombing the piss out of people.   ;D ;D ;D

Oh yeah...  I guess I should stop being lazy and provide a picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/Fv21Iq2.jpg)

Wing roots draped up in filler.....     and.... the stand! Finish not quite as glassy smooth as I'd like but I didn't polish it any, either. Pretty much have to let this thing sit for months or more after spraying it with the silver color from what I've read. It says right on the can not to touch it without cotton gloves and the like so I'm just going to leave it be. I think it looks pretty good. It's not some ridiculous chrome or mirror finish but certainly looks like metal and does have a reflection coming off of it...   :::shrug:::    I dunno though... this is my first real attempt at trying to get a somewhat decent NMF instead of just throw silvery grey colored paint on the thing and calling it a day.

As a reminder, this was my last NMF attempt and while it looks alright, I don't think it's that good as NMF...

(http://i.imgur.com/LwjzSfF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3BltCaF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/asZXfo9.jpg)

See what I mean? Not too bad but could be better!

Then there was this thing...  the very first model I built after my decades long hiatus... it being a highly weathered NMF (why I was even attempting weathering at this stage is beyond me... but... I wanted it grimey as hell for the Mirror Universe... )

(http://i.imgur.com/C5NixR8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TXSakS6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fc7FMUJ.jpg)

LOL      I think it's really neat, though!!  This would have worked in the SF GB if I hadn't already made the thing.  ;D ;D

But anyway. I think I'm heading in the right direction. Some of this stuff takes years to master so I need to just be patient.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on July 25, 2017, 06:17:29 pm
NMF isn't a skill I've felt the need to develop, yet, but from what I've read it's all about technique & patience.

The hardest thing to get right, from observation, is the variations in colour of the slightly different alloys used in different places.

Oh, & heating effects on jet exhausts & the panelling over the engines of some aircraft.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 25, 2017, 07:11:44 pm
NMF isn't a skill I've felt the need to develop, yet, but from what I've read it's all about technique & patience.

The hardest thing to get right, from observation, is the variations in colour of the slightly different alloys used in different places.

Oh, & heating effects on jet exhausts & the panelling over the engines of some aircraft.

Man, you said it... sure enough. That's one bit I've never paid much attention to or attempted. I've SEEN it plenty of times on builds (and on the real thing), and even before I did my Mig 27, but it just looks like so much work.

A lot of it can be achieved by simple masking or not masking certain things, pre shading, switching finishes from matte to gloss to satin, and the like, which really seem simple enough,  but I get that "lazy bone." I'm going to try some stuff like this on a future Tomcat build (won't be NMF though). But trying it in NMF will be a long ways away if at all... 

Hell, we can't ALL be master modelers.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 27, 2017, 11:36:06 am
Found myself lacking in any work to do on both current projects! I can't proceed until the "cold" glue I used on them has set up another day or two. Can't sand on it until then. So.. what to do?  Space Shuttle? NAAAAAH...    Shelf of Doom projects don't sound that appealing right now. I managed to finish two of them in two days so that's not bad. I can go ahead and shelve the others and not feel guilty about it.  ;D

Up next is a Cuban Sea Fury! Thanks to Fred and Zenrat Industries, a crate full of parts has arrived at the C.R.A.P. facilities. What we have here is the Flies Right Off the Ground Hawker Sea Fury bagged kit from the good ol' days. Many moons ago I was thinking of making it some weird camo job as an escort for the Cuban Heavy Bomber "Castro-Force 1" I built but the more I got to looking the more I like the NMF machines they had. The ones with the cool Star and Bar roundels they used. Since I'm in the midst of "NMF training" it makes all the sense!

(http://i.imgur.com/8ihJUja.jpg)

Can't beat it with a stick!  Here's the fun part; I don't want to alter the scheme much but, I will put an anti glare strip on mine (some of them had them anyway, just not the one in this illustration) and the FAEC stuff and numbers will be different. I'll do something neat with the numerals and letters to make it apparent that this is a Presidential Escort. Not sure what... yet... but something will strike my fancy as I go through my spare transfers. 

Got the munchies again, sort of, so I need to stop and eat lunch then I'm going to take a pic or two then get to trimming parts and filing away burrs then I'll glue some stuff and paint some stuff.  :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 27, 2017, 01:10:53 pm
This kit is so cool!  Surprising number of parts. The wings can be folded, or not (not going to bother on this one) and the control surfaces all can be put on at whatever angles you choose.  By the way, what would one of these look like just sitting there not under power? Would these things naturally droop down or what? Last time I did one with these like this I think I got them wrong or something.  ;D  They're all droopy:

(http://i.imgur.com/yVcpGuC.jpg)

Ah well, that was just the second build I made after getting back to modeling. In retrospect, those were some good Yak kits!! I bought two of 'em. Can't remember who made 'em... Czechmaster or something... I had it all figured out at one time. Came in this type of box:

(http://i.imgur.com/RAm8yb2.jpg)

Getting off track here....   ANYWAY... here's the wares:

(http://i.imgur.com/ZcNyLpB.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/Cj2Nhc7.jpg)
Pic got flipped upside down on this one but who cares.

Individual prop blades... the individual wing and control surfaces, etc. Neat! Also, external fuel tanks and some rocket looking......  stuff. Kinetic or are these some type of RPG?!  :o ;D  (left of center)

I plan to use all of this stuff whether they did in Cuba or not because this is going to be, albeit a bit subtle, WHIF anyway! I could hang a palm tree off this thing and so what!!!!  ;D

Anyway... I'm going to start clipping parts out and dry fitting to see if I can do things like put the fuselage halves together before I glue in the cockpit tub (or floor, in this case, I guess) and see how things like the engine cowling and spinner and that stuff goes. Won't be no spinning props so I can glue the props and spinners on near last, at least, if not the whole assembly but I'd rather get as much together and attached onto the main body assembly possible to make spraying a bit easier.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 27, 2017, 01:13:56 pm
They are rockets, WWII era British 3" unguided thingies. Just the job for digging holes in Panzers around the Falaise Gap.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 27, 2017, 02:48:38 pm
Moving rapidly, for now.

All these parts were "cleaned up" mean I trimmed away as much sprue and extra material as I could, leaving enough to latch on to with my meat hooks or clothes pins and also washed it all with a vinegar/alcohol/water mixture.

(http://i.imgur.com/zKTUFFo.jpg)

Next, I took it all out and primed it all.

The remaining parts are all things that will be attached to the plane body so it will all get washed and primed separately.

The kit.. well... not a lot of flash, just a couple pieces on the fuselage halves but the troublesome thingsis that a lot of the surfaces like on the wings and cowlings are marred all to hell with scratches and gouges. Like they rolled the stuff across a bunch of broken beer bottles or something at the factory.  :o ;D ;D   Definitely will have to sand that stuff down seeing as how we're doing NMF. . . . . ;)

Anyway... getting late in the day. I suppose I could bring in the stuff I have primed from outside and start painting but ideally I'd rather it dry up first to prevent any possible outgassing conundrums. What I will do in the mean time is start gluing the wing parts together, the fuel tank parts together, and maybe paint the canopy. The glorious..... glorious canopy what will only require the border and one stroke across the middle.  :laugh: :laugh:   Niiiiiice and easy.  Man, I love building these single engine prop 1/72s. It's so nice when a build just flows. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 27, 2017, 02:52:20 pm
They are rockets, WWII era British 3" unguided thingies. Just the job for digging holes in Panzers around the Falaise Gap.  ;D

Good deal! I was just curious. Wasn't familiar with the knob on the end. A blob of iron I suppose. I'm more familiar with the ones like on more modern aircraft... The ones that are relativiely smooth around and just pointed on the end.. no blobs or knobs.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 27, 2017, 03:33:16 pm
They are rockets, WWII era British 3" unguided thingies. Just the job for digging holes in Panzers around the Falaise Gap.  ;D

Good deal! I was just curious. Wasn't familiar with the knob on the end. A blob of iron I suppose. I'm more familiar with the ones like on more modern aircraft... The ones that are relativiely smooth around and just pointed on the end.. no blobs or knobs.  ;D

No, the blob was the 60 lb warhead, the rest of it was a tube containing the solid rocket motor, and there's some fins on the rear end to keep it flying sort of straight. The 3" part of the designation was the dia. of the rocket tube.

They continued in use by the RAF as late as the 50s-60s, even Hunters carried them.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 27, 2017, 03:44:02 pm
They are rockets, WWII era British 3" unguided thingies. Just the job for digging holes in Panzers around the Falaise Gap.  ;D

Good deal! I was just curious. Wasn't familiar with the knob on the end. A blob of iron I suppose. I'm more familiar with the ones like on more modern aircraft... The ones that are relativiely smooth around and just pointed on the end.. no blobs or knobs.  ;D

No, the blob was the 60 lb warhead, the rest of it was a tube containing the solid rocket motor, and there's some fins on the rear end to keep it flying sort of straight. The 3" part of the designation was the dia. of the rocket tube.

They continued in use by the RAF as late as the 50s-60s, even Hunters carried them.

Ohhh ok, so they DO explode, they just aren't "grenades,"  cool!  I follow now.  I know the modern ones like what an A-10 would carry have no explodey bits, they just use kinetic energy. More over than my curiousity, all this will make a difference in how I paint the things. Warheads means I'd like to paint the tips red and keep the body and fins a different color. OR.. something to that effect.

I still have lot to learn about Royal wares. Hell, when I first saw the things I thought there were GUNS of some sort 'til I saw the fins.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 27, 2017, 07:00:49 pm
Having recently looked it up for my Jet Mossie I can tell you that the RAF painted their 60lb rockets bronze green.
Obviously as this is Whiffworld, your model and also a Cuban plane you can paint them whatever colour you want.

IIRC IRL the stars and bars markings were used by pre revolutionary Cuba and when Fidel took over they painted them over with the triangle markings.

I just found this which I thought you might like.
(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/F433_F4E_Cuba.jpg)
https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/fantasy-aircraft-full-series.23533/page-21
As its one of Clave's it might be here somewhere already.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 27, 2017, 07:54:41 pm
Were the whole rockets painted that bronze green? I know for certain the drop tanks are being painted red on this one so I was thinking of doing at least the tips green on the rockets instead of more red. It may get a bit too gaudy to have them two colors or even three, however. All green could be nice...perhaps with black fins or something. Yeah, that doesn't sound too bad.

Definitely love the Phantom. Clave is my hero.  :wub: :wub: :wub: ;D

Whif world, indeed. Despite my crappy back story or any association with the bomber, this one will definitely have the stars and bars. I really like the NMF sea fury and the livery they had going on. The roundel appeals to me, for sure. It ain't going nowhere.  ;D  Sure would be nice to reconcile the difference somehow.... but if I can't quite get the historical what if gymnastics right then so be it. Perhaps, in this alternate reality the star and bar was the "regular" roundel adopted for the entire air force(s) and the round triangle thing was a new thing just for the presidential bomber. Or something!  Gotta love whif-world.  ;D

Anyway... while I'm here.. a quick update. I did indeed get more work done. I cleaned up some of the wing segment parts and glued them together and have them clamped with clothes pins to dry. I also recovered my primered "bits" from outside. Thankfully, I have achieved good coverage and no apparent flaws in the primer coat! These pieces are all ready to receive painting wit' me beloved cheap acrylic hobby paints.  :laugh:

To that end, looking at these prop blade pieces.. man, what a nice design. Despite being extra pieces, and, seemingly more work, it's NOT!!!  The way this stuff is molded they will fit into the spinner nice and level and at the right angle. This is great, because I can paint all this crap separately. Genius, really..  little small things like this make my day. It makes one wonder why certain specific things like this weren't copied or done (more) by other manufacturers.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 27, 2017, 11:26:54 pm

To that end, looking at these prop blade pieces.. man, what a nice design. Despite being extra pieces, and, seemingly more work, it's NOT!!!  The way this stuff is molded they will fit into the spinner nice and level and at the right angle. This is great, because I can paint all this crap separately. Genius, really..  little small things like this make my day. It makes one wonder why certain specific things like this weren't copied or done (more) by other manufacturers.


FROG were quite revolutionary in some areas back then, but that engineering seems to have been lost for a long while. The current Airfix stuff has similar undertones to its construction, little ingenious touches that make you think 'These guys know what they're doing'.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on July 28, 2017, 01:38:28 am
Generally both rocket tubes and warheads were bronze green.  But they were made and stored separately and so there would possibly be variations in shade of green.
There were coloured bands on the warheads but I deemed it not worth bothering in 1/72.
I got my information from here.
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234938660-colour-of-rockets-fitted-to-hurricane/

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on July 28, 2017, 03:33:15 am
My memory's really foggy on this but weren't the original warheads, also, 4.7" or 5" or 6" (something like that) naval artillery projectiles?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 28, 2017, 07:01:21 am
My memory's really foggy on this but weren't the original warheads, also, 4.7" or 5" or 6" (something like that) naval artillery projectiles?

The body was 3" and was based (might have used) AA rockets from the Z Batteries. The warhead was either a solid 25lb 3.44" AP warhead or a 60lb 6" H.E. warhead. There was also a solid, initially mild steel, then concrete practice warhead.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 28, 2017, 07:42:56 am
There were loads of those concrete practice warheads on the scrap dump at Benson when we lived there. Somehow some of them managed to move to the kids playground.............  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 29, 2017, 03:11:03 am

To that end, looking at these prop blade pieces.. man, what a nice design. Despite being extra pieces, and, seemingly more work, it's NOT!!!  The way this stuff is molded they will fit into the spinner nice and level and at the right angle. This is great, because I can paint all this crap separately. Genius, really..  little small things like this make my day. It makes one wonder why certain specific things like this weren't copied or done (more) by other manufacturers.


FROG were quite revolutionary in some areas back then, but that engineering seems to have been lost for a long while. The current Airfix stuff has similar undertones to its construction, little ingenious touches that make you think 'These guys know what they're doing'.  :thumbsup:
I've only built one of the new Airfix offerings, the Vampire T.11 (going to get at least one more to build) and it was a dream! Went together so well.  That was the one I painted up as Transylvanian Air Force.  ;D ;D


Generally both rocket tubes and warheads were bronze green.  But they were made and stored separately and so there would possibly be variations in shade of green.
There were coloured bands on the warheads but I deemed it not worth bothering in 1/72.
I got my information from here.
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234938660-colour-of-rockets-fitted-to-hurricane/


Good deal, thanks!! I like the look of the green ones. I'm going to paint them that color instead of risking turning this thing into a tacky decoration.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rheged on July 29, 2017, 03:20:33 am
The rockets I appreciate most of all are the cast iron "rocket spears" used by ASW Swordfish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-3
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-3)

11 kg (25 lbs)  of cast iron travelling at up to 1200 mph can do serious damage to a submarine pressure hull!

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 29, 2017, 11:30:00 am
Cool! I like how they stumbled upon the methodology by accident.   ;D ;D  Fascinating stuff and assuredly rockets aren't exactly the first weapon one would think of when considering ASW.  :o ;D

In airplane land:  Well I ate too much lunch today so no telling how much I'll actually get done as I laze about like a fat walrus, BUT...     the plans are to continue work on the C-Fury. I was going to get back to the other two ongoing projects but the glue is just too gummy. I could force my way through it with the sandpaper but uhhhh..... nah. A good deal of the mistakes I make model building are when I get in too big a hurry or try to force round pegs into square holes.

A big PROBLEM occured, as well. On the Mitsu. What happened is I got carried away with the glue, I suppose, and in two seperate areas a whole bunch pooled together then began to run!!!!   :banghead:  Stupid stupid mistake. Oh well. It's pretty bad, too. It's become part and parcel of the plastic so getting it off takes plastic with it so I'm going to have to not only get this stuff off, but I'm going to have to come back in and fill the areas with putty then skim coat it with some more.

Wouldn't be a Chronic build if I didn't butcher SOMETHING, though, right?!   :o ;D ;D ;D   Luckily, it all ran downhill so the stuff is on the underside of the plane. Less noticeable down there. . . .

But yeah, back to the C-fury... I'm going to proceed with cleaning up the wings and getting them glued together and then likely start painting things. The primered stuff should be dry enough by now that it won't make a problem. 

Place your bets now on whether I paint or nap this afternoon.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on July 29, 2017, 07:08:10 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/8ihJUja.jpg)


Sea Fury has to be one of my all time fav prop jobs, looks good in those colours too. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 30, 2017, 06:12:18 am
Hey Brad!!!!!  Glad you made a fly by!   :laugh: :laugh:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 31, 2017, 04:10:02 am
Quick update on the C-fury. More gluing of wing pieces was done and a bit of filing on things but not much else work got done. I indeed felt the wrath of a big, healthy lunch taking its toll on me and making me a fat walrus. Oh well, back at it today with the other two projects if the glue is sufficiently dry.

Anyway, what I'm here for now is to log an idea I had last night as I was TRYING to sleep. Why the hell is it I wake up a little bit then think about airplanes and stuff?!

Anyway, I have a Letov two seat trainer plane with floats. Not going to use the floats as the kit comes with the options for the wheeled version as well and that's the one I'm going to make. SO, I have this set of floats and I got to thinking of making a US Navy P-51 Float plane that could be towed behind allied shipping as it passes through the "dead zone" in the Atlantic where the uboats and FW 200 Condors would try to wipe out our supply lines.

Anyway... I'm not sure how viable the idea is but uhhh.... eh?  Storms and rough seas? Would it make sense to tow it the whole way or just sitting on the deck to be craned over the side in the event of attack? Rocket propelled or catapulted straight off the deck??  The idea is a recoverable aircraft, unlike the rocket launched Hurricanes or whatever it was the Royal Navy tried. (or whatever it was... it's early in the morning, bear with me) 

Colors would be the US Navy three color blues over grey with the 1943 red bordered star and bar.

I have the perfect kit in mind already, the Testors quick build stuff. While the props that come with it are garbage, I can buy them all day long for $5, shipping and all. They don't come with any gear and are molded with everything of that nature closed up. Perfect for putting the floats on. 

Just an idea for now but I think it would be cool.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on July 31, 2017, 05:56:14 am
Not sure you could tow an aircraft across the Atlantic, even in mid summer doubt if it would get 25 miles ?

A P-51 float-plane "camship" though ? Now there's an idea. Catapult the P-51 and after the intercept it attempts a landing if, and it's a huge if, the sea state is suitable.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on July 31, 2017, 06:58:33 am
That's my only hang up is the whole rough seas bit. A good way around that is possibly have the floats able to be jettisoned so if the things aren't ideal the pilot can just belly land in the ocean like "normal."

This is typical... I'm more interested in the end product, but trying to make a good back story to suit it winds up being the challenge!  Perhaps I should just build it and not worry about a back story at all.   ;D 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on August 01, 2017, 05:49:37 am
That's my only hang up is the whole rough seas bit. A good way around that is possibly have the floats able to be jettisoned so if the things aren't ideal the pilot can just belly land in the ocean like "normal."



In all honesty that's not that much more practical in the Atlantic. The Cam Ship Hurricane pilots were told to head for the nearest shoreline and only if that wasn't possible then ditch or bale out. The North Atlantic is not the friendliest of places in the Summer let alone Winter. I've crossed it in the Summer and even on a good day I really couldn't believe anyone would try and ditch in it. The normal distance between the wave crests is sufficient to make it very difficult. Still needs must I suppose.

You're idea though would be great for the Caribbean. Protecting the oil tankers sailing up from Maracaibo to the U.S. Gulf Coast ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 01, 2017, 07:21:57 am
Hey now there's an idea!  I like the sound of that... one of the lesser heard about areas of the war, and who doesn't like the Carribean?!  As far as all that goes... all of a sudden researching these oil tanker shipping lanes and stuff sounds pretty interesting. Not too shabby an idea at all!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 02, 2017, 01:28:41 pm
Back from la-la land to work on what I'm SUPPOSED to be working on...  in other words.. working on the two projects I stopped in the middle of to finish up the two doom projects. With those out of the way, I went back to these two only to stop and start working on the C-Fury.  ;D ;D 

It's much easier to start projects than finish them..... but that's a nasty habit!

Anyway.. back at it! Glue is dry enough now to sand so that's the name of the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/zTNzMbg.jpg)

Ferengi ship is done with that phase, but tune in to my build page in the Sci Fi Group Build forum for details on that.

The Mitsu, though..... woo....  quite a bit more work to be done with this one. For one thing, the wing root seams on the bottom with need more putty. The top will, too, but not quite as much I don't think. Main thing on top is to get it sanded on down to a smooth enough appearance:

(http://i.imgur.com/ky83V9p.jpg)

See there? Not too bad but not that great yet, either. I think It will turn out just fine, though!  :thumbsup:

Back around to the bottom, however, and I have this mess:

(http://i.imgur.com/AGpdbSD.jpg)
 :o :o

Going to be some sanding and putty up in heyah!  ;D

That's it for now. The remainder of todays work will center around the Ferengi ship.  :lol: :lol:

EDIT: OH YEAH, and I need to remember to update my other thread! I keep forgetting!!!  :banghead: :banghead:


EDIT: Ah hell, I can't keep my hands off it.  ;D ;D ;D In between coats drying on the Ferengi ship, I may as well paint on the fiddly bits of the C-Fury!   :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 03, 2017, 05:18:09 am
Lovely long slender wings on the Nipples-Go.  Not sure about the twin tails though.  I might build mine with a single fin.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on August 03, 2017, 06:00:39 am
Lovely long slender wings on the Nipples-Go.  Not sure about the twin tails though.  I might build mine with a single fin.

I think they give it a very 30's look  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 04, 2017, 01:02:09 pm
I'd like to see one with a larger single fin!  :mellow:


My piece:

(http://i.imgur.com/sSatlmk.jpg)

I need to do more filler but I want to stop and prime it so I have a lil help seeing what I need to work on.

Masking windows.... hmm...    I'm convinced this could be my least favorite aspect of model building. BUNK. You see here what I did. Super sloppy and lazy but this is just for the first bit of primer. I think on the next pass (after finishing off PSR) I'll try to use good ol' PVA as a liquid mask. Should work OK on these little windows then I can just peel it off at the end. Liquid mask. If it doesn't work too well, I may look into buying some purpose made liquid mask but isn't liquid mask just PVA for the most part anyway??

After I prime this thing, I'm going to let it set for a couple days at least. I'll be working on my Ferengi SFGB build after and then probably back around to the C-fury.  :laugh: :laugh:

STILL need to go update my finished builds page, too.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 06, 2017, 02:59:59 am
Primed up the Mitsu and will likely be back to working on it today. Multiple areas need more filler but I'm closer to the goal now, at least!

C-Fury parts.... well, I painted a bunch. Got the tires painted, props painted, first overall green coat on the pilot, got the spinner painted yellow, painted the fin white, just needs a coat of floor polish then I can put fin flash transfers on, glued the fuel tanks together, and filed and sanded on the wing parts. Those are close to being ready for the next phase of gluing at the joint where they fold.

Personally, I don't care for the folded wing look. If I could make this where I could pose them either way at will, that's what I'd do. EXTRA WORK, though, and homie don't play that. So, they'll be glued solid.

Anyway...  it's back to work today on all three projects, I suppose. Probably won't get all too much done on the Mitsu... I might just put the putty on it and leave it to dry for a couple days. I think it dries up pretty quickly but... ehhh... who cares.. it's humid like crazy right now and it's a good excuse to get back to work on the C-Fury

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 06, 2017, 03:12:29 am
On aircraft like the Nipples-Go which have small windows I tend to leave them off, paint the thing and then make glazing with Krystal Clear (which I think is prolly just PVA anyway).
Put some glue on the end of a toothpick, wipe it round the edges of the window and then sort of drag it into the middle.
Works fine if you don't want to get too good a look at whatever is inside the model.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 06, 2017, 06:04:03 am
GRRR!  That would have been perfect for this one!  :banghead:  I'll make sure not to forget next time! These windows aren't anything to write home about anyway.... WAY too thick and can't see through them by any means. They look fine, but, point is I could have easily omitted them and made my own. Oh well... I don't think I glued them on too heavily.. I might try to knock them back out and do the PVA.  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the tippy-tip. Masking winders is for people who enjoy doing it andthat ain't me.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 06, 2017, 01:22:21 pm
Applied more filler to the Mitsubishi Nipples-Go now it is sitting around. Not too shabby on the first pass of PSR...  like........I'd say the wings are at about %40 of what they should be and the rest is pretty minor, really, stuff like the gouge on the belly. Won't be long and this stuff will be out of the way.

I knocked the windows out. They came out nice and easy... good deal.. I didn't put a lot of glue on them and I'm glad! Now I can paint this thing all the way to done then come back wit' me Elmer's School Glue and make my own winders that-a-way. That alone I consider to be a huge victory as I was NOT looking forward to measuring, marking, and cutting out the tape. I could do it...... but I don't WANT to. I can also walk to work but I'd rather drive.

Got some more done on the SFGB build, too, but I'll talk about that over there...  basically consisting of more coats of paint over pre-shading.

Now, for the funnest one... the C-Fury!!

(http://i.imgur.com/J7yt7BM.jpg)
Take a look at this garbage picture. I swear.. I just don't get it. One picture is crisp, clear, you can see miles of detail, then the next is bunk like this that looks like I'm taking pictures through wax paper.  :banghead: :banghead:   Lighting, settings, technique, time of day (yeah, this determines how much and what angle of light is coming in through the windows) whether it is cloudy or not, etc etc etc etc and a million other factors involved. I can't seem to figure it out so...    OH WELL!!   Anyway, this is some of what's going on. Fuselage glued together, wings are glued together, tail planes are glued together.... stuff is painted, etc. Making good headway one this one!!!  :lol: :lol:

Check out this next picture.... more great design from FROG on a decades old kit!! The control surfaces are molded separately. Look how much butter and more realistic they look instead of being done with mere engraved detail. This actually looks like it is a separate piece as it should be:

(http://i.imgur.com/4pkTK6A.jpg)

Tail planes and rudder are the same way. Gotta love it.... little small touches like this really make an old kit shine. Wheel well detail? Sure... massively detailed cockpit detail? Cool!  But uhhhh..... that stuff can't be seen 99.999999999999999999% of the time whereas control surfaces are ALWAYS going to be seen. "Obsolete kit" PFFFT.  I could shell out 8 billion dollars for some wheel well detail no one will ever look at or I can hop in my time machine and go back and grab some more FROG kits.  :thumbsup:  I guess it's all about priorities.

The other good bit of engineering I mentioned earlier in the thread:

(http://i.imgur.com/iYqAhTo.jpg)

No worries about getting wrong paint in the wrong places this way!  :thumbsup:   Good for someone like me that sometimes is short of patience.

(http://i.imgur.com/TLoMZzx.jpg)
The Rockets.

I've painted 90% of the canopy already, as well. I don't even think I'll have to come back with a toothpick. Other things not pictured are the insides of the gear doors. A short moment of confusion there as one was "kinky" and the other "flat." Took me a minute to realize that the kinky one goes on the side were the radiator intake is at. Good thing I stopped and paid attention to this as I could have easily painted the wrong side.  ;D ;D

On that note... I was watching a Sea Fury documentary earlier when I saw some versions that had radiator intakes on BOTH wings instead of just one. This had me running back to my reference pictures to make sure the Cubans had only the singles, and they do, so I'm good. I don't suppose it would have mattered because this is a whif anyway, but, I'm trying to have it only be marginally so.

Well, this is gettin' long winded now so I'll leave it at that, crack open a brew, and get back to painting and gluing. I'd like to be 100% done painting fiddly bits and then get all that I can glued together done by time I call it quits. Shouldn't be a problem!  :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 08, 2017, 05:15:14 pm
Got a really decent amount of work done today, albeit on only one project.

Dealing with too much malarkey right now and it affects my mood so I find myself not all too motivated sometimes. Us with the ol' depression and anxiety know what I mean.   :rolleyes:

That said... after I ate lunch I felt better and then I decided to just grab my wares and start filing. Before ya knew it, I was having a good ol' time and feeling much happier as I PSRed things, touched up paint, etc.  :laugh:

I had to do some trimming on the canopy as it comes molded with a big tab thing on the rear end. I left it on while I painted because it made a GLORIOUS "handle" and I could paint the whole canopy without worrying about smearing it! On the flip side, however, the tab thing had surplus plastic that I had to file off...  I use a round tapered file for this and it worked really well. At this point I was able to DRY FIT/TEST FIT (yes! I remembered !) this thing then use various other files and sand paper with the round one to get a nice, snug fit.

I had to do minor surgery on the wheel hubs to get the struts attached but I managed it. I also took the external fuel tanks and filed, sanded, smoothed, then painted them. On the second coat of red I thought I messed it all up as I was seeing smears and chunks in the finish but I pressed on and after it all dried... they look just fine!! ..Nice!!

Next I took the tail planes and filed, sanded, and made smooth all them then test fitted/dry fitted the elevators and made sure everything was kosher then glued them on. They look just fine! More good design.. like the ailerons they look like separate pieces instead of permanently fixed to the wings.

I also took the main body and filed, sanded, and smoothed the middle seams on the top and bottom both. It is apparent that I will have to go back for another round or too but they are already looking good. At the same time, I am slowly adding layers of glue to some pretty bad sink marks. There are 5-6 of them. I have one or two that are probably flush but the rest still need work. Any way you slice it, though, I'm off to a damn fine start on this process. Won't be too much before I have a nice, smooth fuselage.

Lots of other minor lil things, too, like the tail gear that is now done, the connecting supports for the main gear, the spinner and props, etc. Those are all painted and what not. Not a whole lot of the fiddly stuff left aside from gluing it on.  :lol: :lol:

This lil Sea Fury kit is just what I needed right now!  The Mitsu is a bit of a "larger" project because of the intensity of trying to produce a good paint finish.... and thus more stressful and tedious. It's really nice to intersperse with a delightful single engine monoplane build. ..  :wub:   Big thanks to Fred over at Zenrat industries for the donor kit!

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 09, 2017, 03:44:04 am
Glad to help Brad C.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2017, 07:25:09 am
Back to work on these projects today! I'd like to get a lot done on the Mitsu. I need to get the seams and the surface all smooth then I can begin painting with gloss black.

Right now my work area is taken up with Magic The Gathering cards. I was building decks to go out to the card shop and spend a day playing cards and getting out of the house. Tried to do this the other day, too, but for some reason my check for picking up garbage has not showed up and is currently a full week late.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  Oh well, whadda ya gonna do? I already called and haven't heard anything back over the last 2 days but I'm not going to sweat it right now as the mail has already ran and tomorrow I'm not going anywhere tomorrow anyway but if the damn thing doesn't show up by Saturday morning I'll be in a bind because I'll need to fuel up around that time and also I have my helper coming in to work and I typically like to pay people the same day they work. Enough of this crap though, I don't even want to think about it. Trying to have a GOOD day and stay positive.

Anyway, I'm going to wrap up my deck building wit' me Nerd-Cards and get the Mitsu up here.  :unsure: :wacko: :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 10, 2017, 08:04:44 am
Well that didn't last long.  ;D ;D

I was sanding the piss out of this when the upper fuselage seam split back open!  Yikes! Well, I finished up a little more sanding (should only need 2-3 more rounds of PSR I hope.. I'm getting there, slowly, but definitely making progress!) then re-glued the seam now I have to let it sit around a couple more days so the glue can harden up sufficiently to sand.

Anyway... I think I'll stop and do a little bit of the same on the C-Fury as I'm definitely into the PSR stage on the fuselage and I don't want to start gluing appendages on until I'm as far along as possible with the PSR. I have a funny habit of snapping tail-planes and the like off when I get to putting the ol' elbow grease on the sanding. In short, I need to get the PSR on the main body DONE before I can proceed. I have a couple other minor things to wrap up like finishing the paint on the pilot figure but and starting gloss black on the loose exterior parts but not much else can be done until I construct the actual plane. 

After that, back to work on the Ferengi ship... it's dried enough now that I can get back to painting the hilights and other stuff before I gloss it.

 :-X ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 12, 2017, 03:28:43 pm
Speedy update.

Finished PSR on main fuselage so I glued the wings on. Once I get the wing root seams PSRed, I'll glue on the tail planes. I'm taking a more cautious approach to this one and doing all I can in between steps as to leave nothing to chance.

Also, I tried to pain the yellow bit on the engine cowling but when I got to feathering the edge big pieces came off so I just stripped it all back off and will start over. I didn't prime it, so, the paint didn't have much to stick to. I'll prime it then do it again and that will solve the problem.

(http://i.imgur.com/uue8LNu.jpg)

The bulk of the day has been spent working on the Sci Fi GB entry. All together a good solid 4 hours of painting over the span of 6 hours. Yeah.. I've pretty much spent all damn day working on models, this one in particular! It's getting there, though....  lots of tedious painting followed by successive rounds of touch up.  Bit by bit, though, it's coming together.

(http://i.imgur.com/MBf8I6Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on August 13, 2017, 01:58:29 am
Looking good there, Brad! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 13, 2017, 03:22:47 am
The Ferrengi Calzone looks good.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 13, 2017, 07:58:17 am
Looking good there, Brad! :thumbsup:

Thanks! BOTH of these projects are fun!


The Ferrengi Calzone looks good.
 :thumbsup:

That's a new one!  ;D ;D

Man... now I got the munchies.   :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 14, 2017, 03:09:02 am
Going to get back to work on the Mitsu today. More PSR trying to get the wing roots right and also the fuselage repair. I suppose it's possible that I could reach primer stage today but I kind of doubt it. Most likely I'll need another round or two of filler.

If I get that project far enough along it'll be back to dual workings on the C-Fury and the Ferengi Calzone. The Calzone is drawing nearer to being done. I could potentially FINISH it today depending on how well things go. Also, I have 4.3 billion errands to run today so that might slow me down but I hope not.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 23, 2017, 07:04:20 am
Haven't so much as looked at any of these projects in about a week. Stopped to play some video games and also kind of haven't been "feeling it" due to RW problems. Ever have people in your life that excel at pushing all the right buttons and can ruin your whole day in a matter of minutes?  Yeah.  I could work 23.5 hours a day and the 30 minutes I spend not working makes people think I don't do ANYTHING, EVER.  :rolleyes:

But enough of that BS.

Back to sanding the piss out of the Mitsu!!  ;D  I almost have the top side all fixed up and good to go (the important side, for sure!) I just need to finish putty on the part on the bottom where I melted a bit of a hole into the fuselage and also clean up the bottom side of the wing roots.

Not making any plans beyond this because I have a boat load of chores to do first, including getting my work space re-organized. I have to hit the re-set button on that before I begin work or I just don't feel right!  Also, I may be tempted by the video game console again and wind up doing that.  :rolleyes: ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 23, 2017, 07:50:35 am
Ahhhh yes! It's like coming home! Already breaking stuff!   ;D ;D

It's cool though because I'm having a lot of fun and video games fell off the radar. I now have putty on the seams on the Mitsu and the C-Fury both. I'll let them sit around a bit then I'll whip up a batch of something to skim coat the stuff with (probably just use grey paint or something... a few passes with that will work fine, I've done it before; I call it MRS. SURFACER)


In the meantime... I'll continue to work on the Ferengi Calzone. It's getting dangerously close to a clear coat. Depending on how well I do with my touch up painting I might... MIGHT be able to finish it today but I sort of doubt it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on August 25, 2017, 04:15:20 am
That Ferengi is coming along really well, Brad.
It's amazing how a different paint job can change the whole look.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 25, 2017, 05:50:23 am
That Ferengi is coming along really well, Brad.
It's amazing how a different paint job can change the whole look.

Thanks Rick!!!! Glad you mentioned it because I aim to be FINISH with it today.  Wait'll you see it in the next pics! Much more detail and refinement. To that end... I have a tiny bit of touch up in the main engines areas and to paint the edges of the clear parts red. Then a bit of touch up on the upper surfaces around those areas. Also, a tiny bit of painting on the little thing that sits on top. I painted the yellow stripes on and surprisingly they don't look like utter garbage. One stripe had its edge messed up a bit when I peeled the tape off but it's minor.

Problem is... it is down pouring and humidity is 100% so the painting and gloss coats will take longer to dry, but, I have plenty of time left in the day.

I'll be working on the Mitsu and the C-fury as well in the between times.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 25, 2017, 07:51:02 am
Work situation is a disaster but I love it because this is all the excuse I need to sit on @$$ ALL DAY LONG and work on models!!!!    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Anyway, more work done on the Ferengi. Main ship painting is DONE and I glossed coated it about 15 minutes ago. It's 9:45 AM here so I think I'll let it sit around until 1 PM then five into the transfers. All that is left aside from this is to do a tiny bit of painting on the doo-dad and the clear pieces.

Now that that is sitting around... I'm working on the C-Fury. I went ahead and sanded the wing roots and fixed up all the places I put putty.  I repaired the wing section I snapped off now it is singing in my helping hands apparatus to dry up. Next phase of work on that one involved glueing on the tailplanes. 

I suppose after I do the 10-15 minutes worth of painting on the Calzone then back around to work on the Mitsu.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 25, 2017, 09:50:57 am
Phone/camera acting up. Last time I tried to post a pic from it it took like 20 minutes of fighting and now it's doing the same. Frustrating!

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on August 25, 2017, 04:48:06 pm
Try reboot? used to work with my old phone.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 25, 2017, 04:56:12 pm
I'll do that next time it goes T.U. This thing has always given me problems.  It seems that I iron them out and things work for a long while, tho, until I do "something."  At one point I discovered that a USB cable I was using was the problem. So I solved that...   This time everything stopped working after I ran CCleaner on the computer. I guess it trashed some of the stuff the phone uses... I dunno...  I finally got it working so I hope it STAYS working. We'll find out in about an hour or less when I try to take pictures again.  :rolleyes: 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 26, 2017, 04:51:20 am
...now it is singing in my helping hands...

My mind boggles...
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 26, 2017, 05:47:07 am
 ;D ;D   I really need to proofread. 

Sitting in my "Helping Hands" contraption.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on August 26, 2017, 01:48:24 pm
...now it is singing in my helping hands...

My mind boggles...
 :o ;D

Then the Plan is working... oh, was I not supposed to give that detail away?

Oops... :banghead:

Sorry, Brad...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 27, 2017, 02:30:02 am
Not to be overly critical Rick but it's not much of a plan as my mind is pretty much in some state of bogglement most of the time anyway.



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 27, 2017, 03:19:32 am
...now it is singing in my helping hands...

My mind boggles...
 :o ;D

Then the Plan is working... oh, was I not supposed to give that detail away?

Oops... :banghead:

Sorry, Brad...

 ;D ;D ;D




Speaking of plans. I'll be back to work on the Mitsubishi and C-Fury.  In a half asleep state at some point last night or the night before it occurred to me that I've strayed a bit from the goal on the Nipples-Go. I'm trying a little TOO hard to get the seams and stuff correct. I imagine everything is close to being just fine so I'll likely spray more primer on it today and see where I stand.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 27, 2017, 12:55:59 pm
Having another day where I can't settle on what I really want to do. At first I was playing video game after deciding I didn't want to work on models today after I decided I was this morning..... now after lunch I decide I'd rather work on models but not the Mitsu.  :unsure:

So anyway... a little more PSR on the fuselage of the C-Fury then I glued on the tail planes. All that is drying up now and will need a couple days to sit before I PSR the area.

Now, I'm trying again to paint the yellow ring on cowling. Last time the paint got too thick and when I tried to feather the edge it started coming back off. This time I'm feathering in between coats.

Also, I'm needing to finish painting the pilot. No big deal there.

After that, I'm going to try a bit of experiment. It is suggested to paint gloss black before using the silver paint. Well, I'd like to see how it acts right on top of grey primer so I'll do a tiny bit of sanding on the gear doors then paint them with the silver and see what happens. Since they won't be touching any of the other silver if the shade is off a bit.... it won't matter. Besides... maybe they're a bit more weathered or were all replaced and might have a different look anyway?  ;)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on August 27, 2017, 07:22:15 pm
The gloss black is to give a smooth surface to the metallic coat & to add some depth to the colour. It should work on grey primer but it may not be as smooth nor have as rich a colour.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 29, 2017, 04:46:20 am
I'll be interested to see how the doors look sitting aside the stand I painted "the proper way" a while back.  :wacko: 

I have some other experiments planned, as well. Such as putting gloss clear on top of the silver and also trying a satin coat on the silver. I just have to see what it all looks like and have examples. In fact, my little stand is shaped like a triangle and I can mask off most of it then just spray one side panel with clear gloss, then the other with satin, then leave the third side as is. That a way I'ill have my experiments without ruining an actual project.

In other news. I have a TON of errands to run and things to take care of today but if I can get back to work on models it'll be more PSR on the two ongoing projects. Getting real close to primer on the C-fury.

In other news, haven't posted a funny in a while so I'll close with this:

(http://i.imgur.com/T3dIXy3.jpg)

 :lol:


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on August 29, 2017, 06:17:01 am
 ;D ;D

Actually that's nice brush work  :thumbsup: Plus excellent coverage for white, wonder whose he's using ?  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 29, 2017, 10:49:11 am
;D ;D

Actually that's nice brush work  :thumbsup: Plus excellent coverage for white, wonder whose he's using ?  ;)


You can bet it won't be Xtracolour! Perhaps it's a brushed version of Halfords Appliance White?  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on August 30, 2017, 05:49:36 am

Perhaps it's a brushed version of Halfords Appliance White?  ;D


I wish there was such a version. Or is there ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on August 30, 2017, 07:47:24 am
Just gotta decant it, right? lol    That reminds me... I've been meaning to pick up some of that good ol' fridge paint. . . . .
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 30, 2017, 07:53:59 am

Perhaps it's a brushed version of Halfords Appliance White?  ;D


I wish there was such a version. Or is there ?


Not that I know of, but as the Cap'n suggests I've sprayed some into the can cap and used that with a brush before now. It ends up the same colour but it dries VERY quickly so you have to be fast.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on August 30, 2017, 08:08:28 am

Perhaps it's a brushed version of Halfords Appliance White?  ;D


I wish there was such a version. Or is there ?

WW2, mate! Pre-rattle cans, I believe, so it's probably all they had.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on August 31, 2017, 02:55:12 am
(http://i.imgur.com/T3dIXy3.jpg)

He's only just going to get that big old brush into the tin.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on August 31, 2017, 06:14:24 am
What's he painting anyway ? A Boston ? Looks like it. Plus I wonder what he'd done to get that job ?  ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on August 31, 2017, 07:30:39 am
What's he painting anyway ? A Boston ? Looks like it. Plus I wonder what he'd done to get that job ?  ;)

Look like B-26 Marauders in the background, so I'd reckon the same? :unsure:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 01, 2017, 06:43:07 am
What's he painting anyway ? A Boston ? Looks like it. Plus I wonder what he'd done to get that job ?  ;)

Look like B-26 Marauders in the background, so I'd reckon the same? :unsure:

On second sight you could well be right. And having had a really good look at the guy's uniform I see he's USAAF rather than RAF as I first thought (makes sense in Life) so yup B.26's it is.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 06, 2017, 03:18:00 am
Going to try to get back to work today. Haven't touched a project in about a week and a half or so. Been in one of those down moods again brought on by BS. I have a lot of maladies including a really bad back with sciatica probs and herniated discs and the like but when I tell people I can't always do all the busy work they want me to do people get mad at me and ridicule me for it as if I'm making it all up. Anyway, that, coupled with all the pain just did me in for awhile but I'm starting to feel better as I get caught up at work and as the weather cools down!!!  :wub: :wub:

Enough of that... I'd like to get the C-Fury primed today. I was looking at it yesterday or the day before and It's pretty close on the PSR stage....  Just a little more sanding on the main wings and then the tail plane roots.

I keep forgetting to finish painting the pilot but I need to do that and also put on the last couple of coats of yellow on the cowling. Sometimes I get yellow to cooperate... other times it takes 6 coats.  :rolleyes:   One of these days I'll figure out what the deal is but I learned recently that I haven't been properly thinning my paint. I've been laying it on TOO THICK and that could help with coverage, certainly, but isn't the right way to go about it. So.. now, the paint is thinner and taking more coats. That's my theory anyway.

While this sits drying from primer I need to get back to fixing on the Mitsu where I ate up the plastic with a large surplus of glue. I've kind of lost my way on this one.. like I said prior, I really wanted to just focus on the finish. Of course, one part of achieving such is a nice, smooth surface, but, I've been trying to get the wing roots PERFECT and this has taken up the bulk of my time!  So anyway, I'd like to get the PSR done on this today if at all possible.

Blew some money on some really nice kits recently.  Had a good month and had quite a nice stack of cash after all the bill paying and the like. Some already got here, some still on the way but I'll try to remember to post them in the stash thread. Also, I need to update my finished builds thread with the Calzone.

TTYL  :lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 06, 2017, 01:44:59 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/iSvlqvT.jpg)


Invasion stripes are on.


Kidding.  ;D  Just my Mrs. Surfacer 10,000,000  filler technique.  One last bit of sanding with some fine paper then it's off to the priming. I'm going to have to sit down and read the cans again but I believe.... there's a way, if I do it right... to go all the way up to the silver in one whack.  Well, I think I can with the primer then the gloss black, but I may have to let it set up. But, if I can do the spray, 15, spray, 15, all the way into gloss black at least ... that will get me well on track. Barring the lightning-speed painting I'll just do a 2 day schedule.. prime, wait two days, then do the gloss black, then wait.... well, probably more like 7-10 days at that point because it takes a while to dry whereas teh primer dries much faster. So, more like a 2-7/10... lol    Then finally the silver then I have to let the damn thing sit around about a month.

Odd thing, this silver paint. ---- They say NO TOUCH and they are right. If you have to touch it, make sure to be wearing cotton gloves. Odd thing is... back when I I painted the stand... after I let it dry up 3-4 weeks I touched it and it didn't hurt anything..... however, I tried again about a week ago and royally screwed up the finish. I then tried my nice, soft shirt (but hella rough on on a microscopic scale, I'm sure) and even that wrecked the finish. Doing all this on purpose, mind you, so I have the experience under my belt and become knowledgeable of this paint.  I mean.... this will be far from the last NMF I do so it pays to learn not only how to succeed, but to fail.

Pilot is painted! He looks great. Also.. down to the last coat or two on the cowling then I'm going to try again to sand it.... I will try again to sand it before I clear coat it but if it doesn't work, I'm going to clear it to keep the stupid paint attached to the piece. I FORGOT TO PRIME IT so the paint doesn't want to adhere (yes, I washed it with detergent & water and kept it clean during all phases).

That's it for now.. back to the final sanding then time to read some cans. This is a pretty fun phase of the build because things start moving faster and I'm down to just painting , transfers, and final assembly. In other words... main assembly and PSR are done and that's always a good feelin'!  :laugh:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 06, 2017, 04:09:47 pm
Still a few imperfections but they are minor. Primed and ready to go! I had to cook (still am) so I didn't get into doing the gloss black that is A-OK. I can continue again in a couple days without feeling rushed.

Pretty happy with how this lil feller is shaping up.  :mellow:

All for today I guess. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 07, 2017, 02:58:57 am

Pretty happy with how this lil feller is shaping up.  :mellow:



That's a nice feeling  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 07, 2017, 06:19:44 am
It so is! 

Man, I grabbed the paint brush yesterday and started slathering on my Mrs. Surfacer (thinned white paint lol ) and a big ol smile came across my face. It just got better as I realized I was done with PSR and now this morning I took a look at the dried primer and ........well, like I said, there are imperfections but I'm MORE than happy with it. She's ready to take on the gloss black tomorrow!!  Good stuff. In fact, I'm at the point now where I can't even work on it any more until the painting is done which will be about a month from now. ;D  Thus is the update.

With this one at this stage I get to continue work on the Mitsu which is creeping ever closer the the same exact goal... primed, gloss blacked, then NMFed..I doubt I'll get to work on it tomorrow because with the chores I have scheduled and the painting on the C-Fury there won't be time, but, it's next up on the "finish the PSR" phase.

I suppose at some point in the near future I'm going to find myself lacking things to work on in which case I'll be picking up the KX-81 Kukulcan and getting underway with that one. KITBASH. SOUTH AMERICAN Mayan Empire Air Force stuff!  Fuselage from one, wings from another... and who knows what else. Going to try an camoflage experiment on it, as well.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 08, 2017, 02:56:26 am
Just saw this floating down the Facebook stream.

If the day ever comes where I take my CRAP to a show, I think I'll whip up one of these:

(https://i.imgur.com/Papke4d.jpg)


Brief update. .....  Upone closer inspection in better light, I need to do more PSR to the wing roots... This sucker is going to be NMF so I need things as smooth as possible. One side is pretty tolerable and I could live with it, but the other side is not. You can tell it was a separate piece instead of the fuselage just flowing into the wing. I can't in good conscience not address this so... back to the PSR phase again.  :rolleyes: :lol: ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 08, 2017, 06:03:10 am
Love Kathy... ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 08, 2017, 06:20:25 am
Love Kathy... ;D :thumbsup:

Me to  :thumbsup: I'v seen lots of signs with a similar meaning on tables at shows but none that good.

Just need a photo of that gorgeous Sicilian nurse who attended to me last time at St George's  :wub: ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 08, 2017, 08:33:27 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 10, 2017, 03:19:11 am
Got a bunch of putty work done on the C-Fury. It's looking like it should be good after I sand it and prime once more.

Going to try to do this today.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 12, 2017, 01:04:29 pm
Back to work! 

There's a dude on the Scale Model Society right now doing a live feed of his build(Fred Foot).  I like it when people do this because I can watch this and it's like having a work buddy ... doing a group build of club meet up or something. It's pretty neat.

Anyway.. more PSR on both the Sea Fury and the Mitsu. I am OHHHHHH SO close to being done with it on the C-Fury... so I should be able to prime it later. That said, it sure has gotten windy around here.....   


On the Nipples, go, well... I'm still fixing where I trashed the surface with that big surplus of glue. The wing roots themselves don't look so bad but I still would like to see what everything looks like primed. I feel like I'm getting pretty close to being done with PSR on this one, too.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 14, 2017, 03:57:26 am
Local internet service has gone Tango Uniform. Just testing to see if I can get anything out. I can get certain websites to.... SORT OF .... work... but I haven't been able to post anything (send) yet.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 14, 2017, 04:13:33 am
Ground Control to Major Tom ... :unsure:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 14, 2017, 06:16:53 pm
Systems go. Everything is working now. Might have been already for a couple hours, who knows... I went and reset the modem and router and everything came back. Should have tried it sooner!  ;D

Anyway... no work done. I fell asleep on my arm/hand the other night and woke up with it feeling pretty bad. It was "OK" until this morning when I washed my unruly puppy dog... Puppy, hell, he's 7 years old now. But anyway.. he's 65 pounds and HATES baths so I hold on to his collar and try not to hurt him..but the whole time all this strain on my already hurt hand. Long story short.. I guess that's all it took and the damn GOUT has set in there now (down in the thumb-root lol...  ).  Hurts like hell. Radiating pain all up and down my arm from finger tips to shoulder... all from the stupid thumb joint that is inflamed.

Been slipping lately on my diet, though, so I'm partly to blame.

ANYWAY.  Glad to be back!! No internet is like.. having no food.. or.. no air... or something.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 15, 2017, 03:01:17 am
Anyway... no work done. I fell asleep on my arm/hand the other night and woke up with it feeling pretty bad. It was "OK" until this morning when I washed my unruly puppy dog... Puppy, hell, he's 7 years old now. But anyway.. he's 65 pounds and HATES baths so I hold on to his collar and try not to hurt him..but the whole time all this strain on my already hurt hand. Long story short.. I guess that's all it took and the damn GOUT has set in there now (down in the thumb-root lol...  ).  Hurts like hell. Radiating pain all up and down my arm from finger tips to shoulder... all from the stupid thumb joint that is inflamed.

 :o Hope you get better soon, if your hand's not good enough for modelling, i can only imagine what working is like... :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 15, 2017, 05:16:16 am
Ouch.

You have my sympathy.  But if you know what it is then you know what to do, yes?

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: scooter on September 15, 2017, 05:28:01 am
Ouch.

You have my sympathy.  But if you know what it is then you know what to do, yes?

Tourniquet, extremely sharp hatchet and a bucket of hot tar.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 15, 2017, 05:39:19 am
The odd part is is that I entertained the idea!! "If I chopped my hand off...well... the whole pain area will be gone but then how much will it hurt to have a severed limb?!?!!?" 

And yeah I've been here before and already have it on the mend. It feels better this morning already and I imagine by tomorrow it'll be back to normal.  Or.. at least, I hope. Ever since I changed my diet 2-3 years ago I haven't had any problems with this nonsense. Needless to say, yesterday, I was not too happy to see this "old friend" returning for a visit.

Update time!! I went and grabbed the C-Fury to have a look.  99% there on the PSR!  Ha...  thought I was done but I could have found out it was worse. There's just one tiny little pinhole that could use a dab of putty and a quick sand then I can put another bit of primer on and she's ready. This is looking like a good airframe now.  Won't be long before I have the silver on and let the thing sit around for a few weeks while I go cotton glove shopping...
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 16, 2017, 02:31:30 pm
PSRed enough on the C-Fury to warrant more primer but I SWEAR it's done this time. It's drying up now then two days from now I can put the black on.  ;D ;D ;D

Watch me go right back to PSR again......     Man, I dunno what it is. It seems like I get stuck in the PSR phase more often, for longer, these days. (CHRIS!! YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!  ;D   )

To this end......  I came up with an idea that may help me shake loose the uhhh....  entrenched desire to get the sanding and filling PERFECT. I'd imagine I could live with less intense applications of PSR and be happy with the results if I were to just try. That is.. TRY to not get bogged down in that phase. SO... like I said, I did some thinking.....

ONE DAY BLITZ BUILD. Speed build... or what have you...   I want to pick out a really simple little kit.. pick a one color paint job design.. and just build the entire thing in one day. Gluing in the morning....  PSR early afternoon.... paint work late afternoon... decalling in the evening... pictures in time for bed.  AMBITIOUS!  :thumbsup:  It may serve me well to hit the reset button though and see what it's like knocking a build out at warp speed.

So anyway... I'm going to attempt this MONDAY. THIS Monday, so stay tuned for that. Between now and then I'll try to pick a kit and maybe do some prep work like how we d the GBs around here. Clip out the parts and clean off the flash and file away burrs..... gather up my paints and brushes, glue, etc.... and get everything staged so that when I get home from work on Monday and I can start immediately on gluing things together.

Anyone care to join me and do a "day build" too? 

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 16, 2017, 05:00:30 pm
  :o i'm working on Monday so i'm out...hope it gets your mojo back up and running. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 16, 2017, 05:25:11 pm
Me, too.

I want to break free from the suddenly "anal" approach to PSR. I think the NMF aspect of the current projects has corrupted me.  ;D

Going to slap this together.

I found a kit. In keeping with the spirit of speed I settled on the first kit I looked at. An MPC (Airfix) P-51B.  Parts count is itty bitty. Paint scheme is green over grey. Transfers are less than.. 15 I think (and they look to be in GREAT condition!! ) . Didn't see any flash or any obvious flaws...   Only thing that says "time" is the canopy.. a bunch of framed stuff, unlike the P-51D canopy.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 17, 2017, 09:07:10 am

Anyone care to join me and do a "day build" too?

Haven't done a one day build since I was a kid, but I know what you mean. I do occasionally do a 3/4 day build and it does seem to recharge my batteries  :thumbsup:

Strangely I find something like a Planet resin kit ideal for these short, sharp builds ?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 03:56:56 am
Well, in typical fashion, the day isn't going as planned. Absent for 2 weeks the rain has RETURNED. The same rain that has plagued me all summer long and had me perpetually behind. Today, however, it gets me out of work. I'll be behind for the unforeseeable future but .... oh well. It isn't the heart of the growing season so it might not be so bad.

Although I slept a couple hours late (it's good being the boss!)  It's not even 6AM yet and the sun hasn't even came up. Dare I say, I'm off to a good start TIME WISE. I've been organizing my work station here getting ready to get under way.

I didn't get any pre-prep work done like I had initially planned so.......   this really WILL be a one day build.

I've already decided to omit a couple things. Primer??? Not this time...  Pilot figure? Nah... (may change my mind on this if I find myself with free time but I have to rememeber that I have  asomewhat involved canopy to paint which I'm allotting no less than one hour to do).  Interior detail will be minimal. I'll jab some dots in there for guages, paint, and install the chair (and stick if there is one).

For now... I'll just sit here and slowly keep organizing and gathering up tools and supplies. Not even one cup of coffee down yet so.... yeah...  morning routine is sacred. I always do bits and pieces of work in the mornings but the main goal is always to have my back unkink from sleeping and to consume copious cups of coffee.

Pictures soon...  box, plastic.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Librarian on September 18, 2017, 04:27:18 am

Strangely I find something like a Planet resin kit ideal for these short, sharp builds ?

...and there I am, once again (coincidentaly) staring at my 1/48 PM Westland Welkin :banghead:. Simplicity in truth but all that resin ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 04:35:56 am
I need to get my hands dirty on a resin kit. I have a couple... one is a really neat (I think) two seater jet... thing.... 

(https://i.imgur.com/zYdGZAt.jpg)

Hesitant because of the sanding problems. I'm of the mind to do it underwater but that sounds a bit messy.  :o



In other news, ....  OI!!!! Already I'm finding things wonky here. The painting guide doesn't match up with the box art.  (Pictures later.. I need the sun to come up to help light things up in here... low watt bulb in the ceiling after the last one popped). 

I need to stop and go pick up garbage at my shopping center job at some point, too. I can get out of mowing but I really should go address the trash situation after the weekend. People get more trashy over the weekend.  ;D   I'd like to glue a couple things together first if I can so it can dry up while I'm gone. I'll do that now..
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 04:55:56 am
OK, time to go to work.

Seat installed, fuselage halves together, stabs on, drop tanks together.

Good start! When I get back I can glue the wings on then I'll start painting the small parts. I need to try to dredge up some reference material as well.


TTYL!
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 18, 2017, 06:28:43 am

Hesitant because of the sanding problems. I'm of the mind to do it underwater but that sounds a bit messy.  :o


You just need to wet sand it, rather than hold it under water. I wet sand and wear a mask when I'm doing a lot of resin sanding.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:12:49 am
One good pic, one bad.  I'll take it!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/IC8Foci.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/5ErOHfm.jpg?1)


Anyway...NATURALLY, about 20 minutes after I arrived at work it started monsoon-esqu downpour so I picked up trash in the rain to the point I was soaking wet.  :rolleyes: ;D 

VERY glad I went and did it, though..  I considered not going at all in which case I would  have a big mess on my hands Wednesday.

Next up going to get the wings glued on then I'll stop, let it set (so humid even the fast glue dries a bit slow) while I start to paint the little stuff. Going to jump right in on the canopy and knock it out of the way.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:15:10 am

Hesitant because of the sanding problems. I'm of the mind to do it underwater but that sounds a bit messy.  :o


You just need to wet sand it, rather than hold it under water. I wet sand and wear a mask when I'm doing a lot of resin sanding.

Works for me... I guess the folks that do it under water are being overly cautious. I had no idea that the stuff was toxic... I just happened to learn of it 2-3 weeks ago by accident watching Youtube vids.   Glad I didn't try to build one before then!! 99% of my sanding is done dry.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 18, 2017, 07:30:52 am
I find I get a better result wet-sanding, & it's easier to give a part a quick wipe with the thumb & see how it looks clean.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:35:10 am
I always seem to "forget" and get lazy and just go for it instead of getting up to go get water.  ;D   I've found that when I do wet sand, however, I like it more than dry sanding. I just get the lazy bone sometimes...    :rolleyes: ;D
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:58:33 am
Canopy painted!! A bit sloppy, but that's alright as it only took up about 10 minutes of time to paint one side, let it dry, then paint the other. I just need to go back in wit' me trusty toothpick and clean it up. I imagine I'll need to do a bit of touch-up after, but I'm well on my way!!!

Next up, glue on the tops of the wings.

In other news.... I won't have to paint gear doors or wheel wells because they are molded in green anyway. Might not be the perfectly correct shade but uhhh... close enough for CRAP work.  ;D  Anyway, this will save time.

This is fun!   :laugh:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 08:09:59 am
Got myself an aeroplane!!!


Wings are on....  main contruction is complete. Stuff needs to dry at least a couple hours then I can file and sand. Looks like I won't have to do too much... this seems to be a great little kit. No real flash to speak of (just a couple odd pieces here and there and some on the struts) and everything fits together quite well. Won't need much putty. 

(https://i.imgur.com/wCvTFoI.jpg)

 :thumbsup:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 10:54:28 am
I feel like I'm getting behind but.....  Ehhh... probably right on track.   I have a good 6-8 hours left in me before I will be winding down for the night. Off tomorrow, as well, so I'm planning on cramming my gullet with beer later and I'd prefer to be at the transfers stage by then. lol

Wild card here will be the gloss coat for transfers.... so humid it may take longer to dry. I need to get that on within the next... ohhh......2 hours??? or it may not give me enough time to outpace my beer and the fact that 6:30-7:00 PM is my normal bed time. It' is a quarter to 1 PM now so .....   Won't have much time for lunch.

This said, I'm making good progress.

Prop blades are all painted up. Had to hand paint the little makers mark oval things because no transfers for them...my try dry brushing a bit... dab dab dab... to get the stencils on but I'll do that only if some free time opens up. Need to finish red on the spinner. I cut in around where the blades attach but need to go a couple sizes bigger on brush and get the rest.

Canopy is 90% good, just need to re-touch then one last go round with the tooth pick. Probably would have been good if I didn't slip a couple times and knock the paint off the frame work.

Gear doors all cut (to make the kit with gear extended) and exteriors painted. Will have to come back in with a dab of touch-up on the OD color.

Tires and rims are painted on the main gear aside from the grey that goes on the inside of the hubs. Red outside, grey inside. 

Drop tanks are finished.

Struts are 90%. Touch up on grey the come through with silver for the rams. 

Getting close to the PSR phase which.. I will.... dedicate no more than half an hour to. (I HOPE).   ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/CcpOanF.jpg)


I'd like to be done by 7 but somehow I think this might drag on til 10 or later.   :rolleyes:   I mean... I still need to stop and eat and I'm also cooking meals for the rest of the week so I need to keep an eye on that so I don't burn the friggin house down.


Break time!  ;D
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 01:21:00 pm
This is going to be close.  3:15 now..... 

DONE with PSR!   :lol: ;D ;D

All gear, gear doors, tires and all that malarkey are done.

Canopy is done.

Need a couple more coats on the spinner and little spacer things...  you know how red is..     :rolleyes: :rolleyes:    Also, I noticed that the red goes all the way back to the exhaust so uhhhh....... I'm going to have to do something.... if I mask, the millions of coats of red will definitely build up and stick to the tape. I may try enamel instead of these acrylics. I need to get it on in one or two passes. This is the only problem I'm having on this build so far...     Not sure how to proceed.  What I want to do is put the red on, mask, then do the rest but uhhh... when I take the tape off again, the red is guaranteed to come with it. I could solve this problem by glossing it... but then... I need to let it dry first....  ugh...   I think what I'll do is do the rest of the plane..... once I gloss is, I can mask THAT part then paint the red on somehow.. it's just more difficult to mask this way because the exhaust are in the way.  YEESH...   these are the time killing problems...
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 03:03:38 pm
90% done with main paint job.


It's 5PM though... so..... I'd say another 20-30 minutes before I can clear this thing then It needs to sit an hour at LEAST.  I hope it will be enough because I need to turn right around and mask the nose to put that red strip on. 

Then, of course, final fiddly bits and transfers, etc etc. Might not make it!!!  NEXT TIME, it will be a TWO DAY blitz build.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;D

Oh well, I ain't givin' up. Still going for the gusto!!!! 

Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 03:36:15 pm
Ready for gloss! Just need the paint to dry which is taking twice as long thanks to all the humidity. 

I can't do ANYTHING until the gloss is done. I even trimmed out the transfers already. Might try the dry brush stencils on the props.

(https://i.imgur.com/RJNHBNX.jpg)

 :laugh:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 04:19:05 pm
All glossed up and hanging to dry.

I think I may as well throw in the towel. I'll uhh.......... retcon the "rules." So long as I have 24 hours or less in the build its still a "day" build..... eh?????   ;D  Just not finished in the same day.  I could sit around and wait then fumble with the red-ring for an hour and another couple on transfers and then another hour on glueing fiddly bits but... like I was mentioning earlier.. this would have me at 10 or later at night!!

Oh well... it was a valiant effort. I tried!    ;D

If the gloss dries up really fast I might give it a go anyway but I doubt it. I don't want to rush things so badly that this thing looks bad. I'm hurrying up, sure, but I still want it to look good!

Anyway... I'll check the plane in about 45 minutes and see how it's doing and go from there.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 05:22:59 pm
Well.... I have failed.  :-\

I just checked it and....... it's dry enough to touch... but still seems tacky and definitely has smell to it. I could put transfers on it easily but,  they could go bad as this clear coat continues to out-gas or whatever.  These transfers look really nice so I'd hate to mess them up!!

I'm blaming all the delays on the rain (HUMIDITY) but if I'm being perfectly honest with myself... I would still be pressed for time and stressed to get it done before some late hour. Doubt I would have finished anyway is what I'm sayin'!   ;D

I'll try this again some day but will choose more wisely. The problems with this one are:

*  The red paint. This acrylic stuff I have is terrible and I'm an idiot that refuses to find a vessel to contain it and thin to proper consistency.  I need to find a bunch of small little cups or something.. disposable or easily cleaned.. for putting tiny amounts of paint into so I can properly thin them. (notice how a lot of problems come back around to me being a lazy tool  ;D )

* Having to extend the red onto the fuselage right to the front of the exhaust... this means masking, avoiding ripping off under layers, and dealing with a build up of red paint from all the layers creating a "step."  This single problem right here is what hit me the hardest... no quick or easy way out with the materials and tools I have.

*  Two color paint scheme. I said I wanted a single color.. I saw this and it was close.. all the olive drab but .... there's a level of focus and time involved in making the bottom grey and doing it correctly. Next time I will definitely choose a single color wrap-around.



ANYWAY.. I had a lot of fun and.... hell... if I want to look at it this way... I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead on what would normally be about a week long build.  :thumbsup:



EDIT:  Oh, and for the record... local time is now 7:24 PM.
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 06:52:04 pm
Well, I've always been "wish-washy" and have problems making up my mind.

This time it was easy. I was done; no more modelling, time for video games. --Time to hop in my P-47 lend-lease or my Pe-8 and tear some stuff up in War Thunder. Well... this was a good idea until I was met with a FOUR HOUR update!

Wuhhhh? 

Bored to tears... I'm not going to sit around for 4 hours waiting on this mess. I could have played another game while it downloaded but I was looking forward to the gloriously slow paced action of high altitude bombing runs in my Pe-8 in Realistic Battles where everything is in real time. I can sit back... fly to a waypoint for 10 minutes.... chill... drink my beer, etc.  I enjoy slower paced gaming these days.

But anyway.. since that doesn't work, I don't want to play anything else, and I'm staying up late tonight and need something to do. I may as well work on this P-51 a bit more. Nothing "planned"... I just want to start putting on the transfers. If I get them all on, great!! If I only put on a couple... that's great, too. (I'll worry about the stupid red ring later... not sure how the tape will react on the "fresh" varnish).

Found a light, too, finally. Now my work area is nice and bright!  :laugh:







Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:09:43 pm
Oh holy hell...

These transfers LOOK really nice.. but...  I soaked one for nearly 10 minutes and it wouldn't come off the backing paper until I clutched the little corner that did come happen to come loose. I was sure it would rip apart. It didn't, thankfully, but I don't relish the idea of peeling 10 minute soaked transfers off like they were stickers.

Then... part of the clear edge on the outside was OPAQUE.. Most was good, but there were sections that were milky white and they showed up clearly on the OD paint. So, I had to take this wet, 10 minute soaked transfer and peel it off the wing then trim that garbage off with my scissors.

I put it back on........ then it hit me.. I can just move this disaster to the BOTTOM of the wing, on the grey, and it won't be so obvious. Either way, lesson learned, I will trim the transfers right down to the edge... no clear stuff.

As far as the damn things not coming off the backing paper?! Well.. I don't know.. I'll play it by ear I guess. \

I don't feel so bad now for not finishing up all in one day.....  with the realization of this terrible transfer problem there's no way in hell I would have finished in time any way.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 18, 2017, 07:20:49 pm
Mate, you're doing well! :thumbsup:

I'd probably still be at the cleaning up the parts & gluing the major components together stage. :rolleyes:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!!
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:34:22 pm
I went a little heavy with the Dawn dish soap in my decal-solution. Not had problems before like this but maybe too much dish soap is causing these problems.

I tried another roundel. After 10 solid minutes completely submerged in my water/vineger/soap solution it wouldn't budge. After prying and coaxing I finally got it loose only to see more opaque garbage all around the edges. Again, I trim with scissors.

Not going to keep pushing the issue. The problem arose, I tried again, it persisted. I'll try once more tomorrow or the next day with a simple water, much less soap, and less vinegar solution. If the problem is still here, I know it's the transfers. (I suspect that's the problem anyway because my solution ain't never let me down before even when I dump too much soap in there.  ;D ;D ;D  )

Ah well... people are probably getting annoyed now seeing my "CRAP BLITZ BLAH BLAH" showing up so I'm calling it for now.  :o ;D ;D ;D

TTYL!    :laugh:
Title: (C.R.A.P.) BLITZ BUILD 2017!!!! ZZZzzzZZzzzz
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:36:05 pm
Mate, you're doing well! :thumbsup:

I'd probably still be at the cleaning up the parts & gluing the major components together stage. :rolleyes:

Thanks, Wombie..   :lol: :lol:     It was a lot of fun. Got more done than normally would be possible I think, despite the problems.  ;D   Like I ruminated on a bit earlier.. I think I'm going to try again some day soon, but I will pick an even simpler build.  :o ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on September 18, 2017, 07:54:00 pm
Been missing quite a bit here I see. A brief scan through I've seen lot's of awesome. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 18, 2017, 07:56:20 pm
Ah hell, thanks Brad....   Certainly lots going on!   ;D   Today, especially, was weird.. and I was a right motor-mouth about it.  ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2017, 11:48:44 pm
But did you really fail? Was your 'day' the time between when you got out of bed to when you got back in, or was it the whole 24 hrs? it was certainly a great blitzing attempt and it looked pretty darn good as far as you went.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 19, 2017, 12:41:57 am
Mate, you're doing well! :thumbsup:

I'd probably still be at the cleaning up the parts & gluing the major components together stage. :rolleyes:

Absolutely  :thumbsup: I'd probably still be looking at the box art  ;D

I love the amount of times you use the word "fun", what it's all about  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 19, 2017, 04:14:47 am
You did well Brad C.  You got further than I would in 24 hours.
I feel your decal problem is prolly due to the age of the decals rather than anything you are doing.

How's your thumb?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 19, 2017, 08:35:10 am
But did you really fail? Was your 'day' the time between when you got out of bed to when you got back in, or was it the whole 24 hrs? it was certainly a great blitzing attempt and it looked pretty darn good as far as you went.
Thanks!! 
I was initially planning on the day being time between bed but.. I like the sound of the other, too. I can easily have less than 24 hours in this!  ;D  I'm not too torn up about it either way especially considering the stupid transfers. I'm going to try one later in straight water and see how it acts. If it won't cooperate??? Well... last minute change of decorations then! I'll grab some spare transfers and turn this into a whif all of a sudden. Looking forward to it, really. I mean... I like this plane a lot as is but I'm not going to fight those transfers..


Mate, you're doing well! :thumbsup:

I'd probably still be at the cleaning up the parts & gluing the major components together stage. :rolleyes:

Absolutely  :thumbsup: I'd probably still be looking at the box art  ;D

I love the amount of times you use the word "fun", what it's all about  :thumbsup:

And it certainly was!!  There for awhile I was just listening to the radio... then... put movies on in the background. Just worked on the lil Mustang all day and it was a fun, relaxing time.

I plan another attempt soon... maybe sooner than later. Just need to make sure the whole project is maybe one or two notches simpler and that I use transfers I know for a fact will work.  :lol:

You did well Brad C.  You got further than I would in 24 hours.
I feel your decal problem is prolly due to the age of the decals rather than anything you are doing.

How's your thumb?

That's a bummer, man, because these LOOKED flawless. That, and I think the overal scheme of the entire aircraft is a really good one!! It looks great (a non NMF Mustang, sign me up, it's not that NMF sucks, it's that as Mustangs go, I see 10 NMF to every painted one it seems) but oh well! If the transfers don't work in straight water I'm throwing them out the window and digging around for more in the stash. I may even strip the two I already applied off because they don't look that good close up. You could tell I had to trim them... and... doing that while they were wet and trying to curl up was uhhh..   :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:  ;D

MUCH better, thanks for asking!  100% improved and has been so for 2-3 days now. Not even any residual pain this time. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 19, 2017, 08:51:53 am
(https://i.imgur.com/jQQ1FBV.jpg)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 19, 2017, 10:15:59 am
One speed increasing idea might be to use faster drying varnish. In the UK lots of us use Johnson's Klear, which I think is called Pledge in the US (can anyone confirm that please?) and it dries very quickly indeed. 10 minutes will be good enough to put the decals on.

I've also used it over 'quick drying' paint that refuses to dry, Xtracolor being a particular problem, and the Klear seems to soak up the 'wetness' in the same time frame.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 19, 2017, 10:53:31 am
Oooooh.... yeah, that is a good idea. I have some here in fact. That's what I'll do next time!!!  Thanks! Saved me an hour, easily! 

I think the next one will be a Yak 58 (I think it was ) North Korean night fighter. Entire thing is black. Could be done, likely, in one coat, dries fast itself, then the floor polish, then good to go. 

Only problem is it is an Amodel kit and I've heard hear and there that sometimes they don't go together too well....      One great thing about this Mustang is that Airfix made a damn fine mold (engineering wise anyway) and it went together great.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 19, 2017, 05:25:58 pm
Just caught up with this now, that is great work for such a short time! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2017, 02:25:56 am
Thanks, hoss, and its getting even cooler! I decided yesterday to WHIF this bad boy so............ the roundels were stripped off using me trusty hobby blade and a lil good luck.

Going to turn this into a retro-Ace Combat bird.  Republic of Ustio......      Just so happens some of my stuff from Japan came with lots of extra roundels and decorations. Some of them were full sets to make complete Ace Combat planes out of other kits, some where just extras and stuff that don't go to any specific plane but still make up everything needed to make a complete set of decorations... SO... this will now be a Republic of Ustio P-51B.     :mellow: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2017, 03:59:30 am
I get it in where I can fit it in..... 5:30 AM and I started decalling this bird.   ;D   

I jacked some racing stripes from a car kit and now I'm having to measure, mark, and cut, to get them to fit right.  This takes a little bit of time so I figured I'd get started so that by time I get back from work today I'll be "ahead" of the game.

To that end, I tried the kit decals again. NO JOY.  I used the two checkerboards.  I had to trim them right down to the decoration and after a long soak I had to take the edge of my hobby knife and miraculously slip it underneath the transfer and peel it off the backing paper. What kept happening was the backing paper itself was splitting in half.  :rolleyes:  I made it through, though, and got the two checkerboards on but the rest of these transfers are going into the garbage.

Luckily, the car stripes work.

Almost certain the brand new Hasegawa transfers will work... 

This thing just might wind up looking pretty neat!   :lol: :lol:


In other news, C-Fury is getting gloss black today... 


Next issue... can someone recommend a good scribing tool for a novice such as myself?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2017, 01:29:20 pm
Decided to add a couple more touches of paint since I have more time now. Painted on some kill marks and the black area up front below the nose just behind the prop and spinner. Air intake I guess. 

Anyway... done with all the painting and the transfers as well. I just need to glue on the fiddly bits then clear it with satin then............ last thing of all is to glue on the aerial wire and she's a wrap! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2017, 02:09:07 pm
OOOPS.. If I'm putting kill marks on the stupid thing, I better weather it a little bit.   ;D ;D ;D

SO, more delays... I also decided to paint some of the cockpit which , right now, is entirely one color. So... I'll do those two things then it will be time to clear it with satin as I've already glued on all the gear and doors....  just saving the prop and aerial post for just before clear then lastly the canopy at the very end.

Anyway.. I think with a bit of color in the cockpit and some weathering I can make this a little bit better. Still plenty of time.... no reason I won't be done this evening.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2017, 03:20:33 pm
Alright!!! All done! All I have to do now is.... let it dry, then snap the canopy on. Won't even have to glue it... it snaps into place and sits there just fine.

Anyway... painted the details in the cockpit then did the weathering... never thought I'd say this.. but I think I'm finally starting to get "better" at it. It definitely looks better with than without. Supposedly this thing is flying around knocking other aircraft out of the sky so it wouldn't make much sense for it to be factory fresh.

Pictures later.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: DONE!! Republic of Ustio P-51B Warbird
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 20, 2017, 04:37:05 pm
No story... use your imagination. It's just an old plane with Ace Combat markings for the nation of Ustio.

(https://i.imgur.com/82vmqyU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GDDY1N4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hX5lllQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dxKOXuz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uPIKiTc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cV2Nm7C.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/syT2nDP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FV8YMdy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JQa3ULe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EC6D62j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YHaY9Jc.jpg)

 :laugh: :laugh:


EDIT:  OI!!!!  I used my hugely bright hallucogen ... hallogen.. whatever...light and STILL this stuff looks dark. Can't really see much of my weathering which I thought I did well for a change!! I will try to take outside pictures soon.... Sun was already below the trees at the time so I figured I'd try this light. This thing is so bright it will blind you and is as good as any space heater. Plug it in and you get sunburn.... dunno what the hell... I just can't seem to get good pictures sometimes.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 21, 2017, 02:18:19 am
Looks great Brad C.
 :thumbsup:
Are you taking the pictures on your phone?  Have you cleaned the lens recently?  Phone camera lenses pick up all sorts of crap from grubby pockets and dirty fingers.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rheged on September 21, 2017, 02:24:40 am
Looks like a superbly finished model to me.

 I agree with the comment about cleaning lenses......you don't want to even contemplate what came off my glasses yesterday after  a bout of fruit picking.  I thought for a short while that the  whole world had gone fuzzy in the bottom left hand corner  (but the raspberries tasted lovely)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2017, 02:51:21 am
That looks superb Brad, notwithstanding the super quick, Dizzy-like speed of the build itself.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 21, 2017, 05:40:31 am
Thanks, fellas!!!!  Glad you like it! I totally dig it, myself. Killing that gloss and getting back to the satin finish sure helped matters. This thing looks great sitting here. Even with a camera that is functioning fully I think it's nearly impossibly to truly capture what the eye can see in person. BUT ANYWAY, I'm biased...

Hadn't thought about cleaning the lens but I did that just now. Great tip. Another problem, though, is that it seems to be and probably is scratched all to hell because of the way I carry it around (in a bag with tons of everything else).  I may consider buying a dedicated, actual, digital camera. Could get one for $40-50 maybe and might be better than the camera in phones 3-4 times the prices simply because the entire device is dedicated to photography rather than just being a small feature.

Anyway, thanks again!!!  This was a blast building this.


Cleaned the screen. Also... update... a nice glossy black Sea Fury ready to take on ~SILVER PAINT!~ tomorrow. Then... it sits for like.......  3 weeks.  ;D ;D ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/LT5j7BT.jpg)

Better I think, but under different circumstances; it's really dark right now, the sun isn't even all the way up and the only light in here are off a 60W light bulb and two screens. I'll try out in actual sunlight, outdoors, in a day or two.
 

:lol:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 21, 2017, 06:05:47 am
That's come out really well mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 21, 2017, 06:10:41 am
OOOPS.. If I'm putting kill marks on the stupid thing, I better weather it a little bit.   ;D ;D ;D



The two don't necessarily go together. The pilot/ace would have repainted his kill markings every time he got a new mount. They weren't just those achieved on that particular airframe. Also the more "kills" then the more likely it is that the aircraft was better looked after. Again not necessarily so, but more likely.

Anyway my aircraft are all presented as though they'd been especially prepared for some high ups inspection  ;) I'm useless at weathering  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 21, 2017, 07:12:58 am
Good lookin' 'Stang you built there, Brad! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 22, 2017, 02:41:21 am
Thanks y'all!!!   And... truth be told... I WANTED to weather this one (for a change). I was just looking for an excuse and... there it was!   ;D ;D

Tricky-dicky.  Anyway... I used ground up pencil lead (graphite) in dry and wet phases. I need to get some outside pictures so we can SEE it! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 22, 2017, 03:46:09 am
Bloke I worked with was complaining that the pics he had been taking on his phone were crap.  He'd had it for a while and couldn't understand how people with the same phone took good photos but his were crap.
So we peeled the protective plastic film off the lens...
 :mellow:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 22, 2017, 04:06:14 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sounds like something I would do!  I checked this one one time when I was thinking that the back cover had a clear piece that went over the lens... which would make too much sense....  because that way one could just buy a new cover with a fresh clear piece, but, no the cover comes off and the lens sticks through and is protected only by itself.   :rolleyes:  I know it's scratched up a bit but..... still, I wind up taking good pictures from time to time anyway so...    It's taking a long time but I'll figure it all out eventually I hope.  :rolleyes: ;D


IN OTHER NEWS!!! Silver is going on the C-Fury today.... and the gear doors. I wonder........  if the transfers can go right on it and I won't have to worry about silvering? I mean, even if they silver up a bit it won't be so obvious because of the color of paint. Trying to avoid spraying gloss clear on top of it and potentially fouling the finish.

This is a few weeks down the road, though.  Definitely letting it set no less than a couple weeks after I get this on... and have to go buy some cotton gloves unless I miraculously find on the the pairs I already own. (HA!)

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 22, 2017, 04:25:54 am
Silvering could possibly be worse on a shiny NMF model because the decal film won't reflect light the same way the paint does.
I recommend trimming really really closely.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 22, 2017, 05:51:13 am

So we peeled the protective plastic film off the lens...
 :mellow:

We've never worked together, have we ? As I hang my head in shame  :rolleyes: :-X
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 22, 2017, 08:23:58 am
Silvering could possibly be worse on a shiny NMF model because the decal film won't reflect light the same way the paint does.
I recommend trimming really really closely.

Will do!! I'm starting to get the idea that that is a good idea as a general rule, anyway. Ran into numerous instances of having to peel them back off and trim while wet; "dry fitting" doesn't always work, either, and had instances of them being too large, knocking into other transfers, etc.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 24, 2017, 10:27:09 am
The C-Fury is a silvery beast!!!!


Ran into a conundrum on the engine cowling... supposed to only be yellow up toward the front by the props but in the interests of ease and expediency I've decided the whole thing will be yellow. There's not much way around it. Next time I'll have to use spray or something because 15 coats of yellow up against.. oh.... 5-6 coats of other just won't work. I thought about sanding it smooth and got some pretty good results. I was going to just mask the stripe, then spray the black on top of the yellow, then the silver on that but I don't think it will look right.

I guess I can get back to sanding on the Mitsu now. I think I was getting close to the wing roots being good to go... just need to fix that spot on the fuselage I royally messed up.  I have another of these in the stash and when I build it I will make sure to double check my dry fitting. If I had done THAT part right in the first place I wouldn't have had half of the problems I'm having now. Funny thing is I did dry fit...  I think I got in a hurry though and didn't really look at it.... I mean REALLY look at it. If I had, I would have noticed these problems.




Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 24, 2017, 12:42:22 pm
Done with the PSR on the Mistubishi........  .......  ...    Civil Nell... I forgot the numbers and letters. It's the Nippon-Go!


Done enough that I need to re-prime it, however, so I'll do that in a few.   The black I'm using next says it has primer in it but.. I'd rather get this thing back to a solid color before I start doing all that.

I need to paint a little more on the engine cowling then it's time to switch gears to the next build.

Anyone remember the KX-81 Kukulcan? I DO!   :wacko: ;D    I'm going to grab that stuff and see what else I might think of adding to the plane. I was thinking... maybe..... some canards???  Turn the tail into a cruciform or T-tail perhaps????  Add some doo-dads?? 

I know I need to take the bottom plate from the Phantom kit and saw off the sides. The wings will be mounted mid way on the fuselage instead of on the bottom so that has to be corrected.

Might get some gluing done on it today. That would be nice... but.... might just be a lot of brainstorming and dry fitting instead.  &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 24, 2017, 02:03:55 pm
I'm such a tool.  ;D

Sprayed the primer on. "Yeah, we're good... "    Spray spray spray then next thing you know I'm up to my old tricks of just hosing down the airplane wit' paint so a run developed.  :angry: :lol: ;D

Easy fix... the important thing is that the PSR work is quite satisfactory (to my tastes) so I'm done with that phase. Just have to let the primer dry, sand off the run, re-spray, and proceed as planned.

Too bad, though, about the run.....  I mean.... DARN; guess I'll just have to work on this ~KiTbAsH~~~ nstead!  ;D :lol: :lol:


Canards wont work... T-tail didn't look right, and neither does cruciform. I'll have to consider other things to add later but the truth of the matter is there's not a whole lot of room on the fuselage for me to "innovate."

(https://i.imgur.com/nszIBQC.jpg)


Going to focus on cutting these wings for now. Drew a guideline now I'll start cutting. I suppose I can score first with a hobby knife to be more accurate but uhh... I don't think it will be necessary. I just hope this little hack saw is worth a C.R.A.P.   ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 24, 2017, 04:05:16 pm
British Plastic > Chinese "metal."


Dolla sto' hacksaw is a pile of junk but it got the job done. I won't go into details, but the thing is poorly made and even just sawing on plastic was dulling the piss out of the teeth.


That said!!! I got the things cut loose and now the wing halves have been glued together and even had putty applied to the one area on each that needed it.

Fuselage is also together after filing away burrs and testing for fit. It goes together well and the design drastically cuts down on the visible seem on top! NICE! I'll have my hands full with putt on the bottom side of the wings so any bit of help I can get is appreciated.

No real plan of action on this one...  I just wanted to get started, and I have.

Wait til you guys see what I have in store for the paint scheme... not only the scheme, but the method itself... stay tuned for that. It ought to be a real hoot! 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Flyer on September 25, 2017, 12:17:31 am

Anyone remember the KX-81 Kukulcan? I DO!   :wacko: ;D

Nope, googled it and found images of Incan type pyramids/temples. :-\
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 25, 2017, 04:09:20 am
British Plastic > Chinese "metal."


Dolla sto' hacksaw is a pile of junk but it got the job done. I won't go into details, but the thing is poorly made and even just sawing on plastic was dulling the piss out of the teeth...

Styrene is surprisingly hard on cutting tools, even good ones meant for cutting it.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on September 25, 2017, 06:00:38 am
British Plastic > Chinese "metal."


Dolla sto' hacksaw is a pile of junk but it got the job done. I won't go into details, but the thing is poorly made and even just sawing on plastic was dulling the piss out of the teeth...

Styrene is surprisingly hard on cutting tools, even good ones meant for cutting it.

Very much so, even the softer styrene  :banghead:

As for yellow ? I know it sounds daft but use pink as a primer and it covers far better. As for shade of pink ? I just mix something up on the lighter side of the shade from white and red at about a 5 or 6/1 ratio.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 25, 2017, 06:13:24 am

Anyone remember the KX-81 Kukulcan? I DO!   :wacko: ;D

Nope, googled it and found images of Incan type pyramids/temples. :-\
No surprise google was unhelpful as I made it all up. Mashing a MiG 21 and an F-4 Phantom together,dredging up an ancient culture, and calling it a whif.

Here ya go:

What if the Mayans never went away? What if they survived to contemporary times and have their own aircraft manufacturing an' all'at? 

Royal Mayan Air Force KX-81 Kukulcan (feathered serpent). KX being the first letters to the Mayan words for "Sky Demon" or "Sky Phantom".

(http://i.imgur.com/KAgiMFi.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZvzDTXf.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1bWIzL9.jpg)
In a way it reminds of an F-100....

Everything fits pretty nice. Of course... may have to make some adjustments along the way and I reserve the right to add even more neat stuff. Probably going to steal some weapons out of a 1/48 Skyray to make some sort of ... something. This is all alternate universe stuff so I can't really do anything wrong if you ask me.



 :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 25, 2017, 06:15:21 am
British Plastic > Chinese "metal."


Dolla sto' hacksaw is a pile of junk but it got the job done. I won't go into details, but the thing is poorly made and even just sawing on plastic was dulling the piss out of the teeth...

Styrene is surprisingly hard on cutting tools, even good ones meant for cutting it.
British Plastic > Chinese "metal."


Dolla sto' hacksaw is a pile of junk but it got the job done. I won't go into details, but the thing is poorly made and even just sawing on plastic was dulling the piss out of the teeth...

Styrene is surprisingly hard on cutting tools, even good ones meant for cutting it.

Very much so, even the softer styrene  :banghead:

As for yellow ? I know it sounds daft but use pink as a primer and it covers far better. As for shade of pink ? I just mix something up on the lighter side of the shade from white and red at about a 5 or 6/1 ratio.


I had no idea!!! I was just assuming the hacksaw was trash. Maybe it's not so bad after all!  Learn something new all the time.


Definitely will try the pink priming method.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 26, 2017, 04:32:50 am
I have some Tamiya pink primer and I always have trouble getting good coverage with yellow paint.  I'll try using the pink primer next time.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 26, 2017, 08:24:12 am
Been raining about 5 hours non stop and not looking to let up any time soon. (why the hell is it every time I sit down to type this stuff out, that's the exact moment people start bothering me?!)
 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

.......................................................
  :rolleyes: ;D ;D


Anyway......


Doing a full-stop clean up and re-organize of this hobby room whilst I do my other chores. Not going to let myself have any "fun time" working on these current projects until I get it done. I have a lot of loose ends needing tied up.... various parts of kit left overs and stuff sitting here and there... a box being used as a "catch all" with numerous things in it, etc.  Just gotta get this mess cleaned up, that's all there is to it.  ;D

Should take a couple more hours then I can get back to work. I need to sand, one last time, a small area on the Mitsu fuselage then a couple more shots of primer then it's back to work on the Kukulcan. Pronounced KOOKLE-CON I do believe... ain't no CUCKLE-CAN.  ;D

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 26, 2017, 07:41:42 pm
Had a reaaaaaally good day getting this place "fixed up!"  :lol:

Man... it looks great in here.. much more organized, so clean, and .....   smoooooth. I'm a huge fan of having a clean and organized space. I accomplished nothing in the way of progress on my three current projects but I'm alright with that. When I do pick them up again, it will be really nice doing so!  :mellow:

Boring, not-much update, but better than nothing!  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 27, 2017, 03:54:30 am
No no no Brad C.  A tidy bench is a sign of a sick mind...
 ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 27, 2017, 05:13:16 am
No no no Brad C.  A tidy bench is a sign of a sick mind...
 ;D

The little sign directly in front of me reads "A CLEAN DESK is the sign of A SICK MIND".

The back of it reads "I CAN BE NEAT, I CAN BE EFFICIENT, But why make everyone else look bad".

The back comment doesn't really apply. ;D
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: scooter on September 27, 2017, 12:32:42 pm
No no no Brad C.  A tidy bench is a sign of a sick mind...
 ;D

The little sign directly in front of me reads "A CLEAN DESK is the sign of A SICK MIND".

The back of it reads "I CAN BE NEAT, I CAN BE EFFICIENT, But why make everyone else look bad".

The back comment doesn't really apply. ;D

I keep telling SWMBO that, but she doesn't seem to believe me.  :wacko:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 28, 2017, 04:04:01 am
No no no Brad C.  A tidy bench is a sign of a sick mind...
 ;D

The little sign directly in front of me reads "A CLEAN DESK is the sign of A SICK MIND".

The back of it reads "I CAN BE NEAT, I CAN BE EFFICIENT, But why make everyone else look bad".

The back comment doesn't really apply. ;D

Having said that, I today felt compelled to tidy up some of the 64,000 used (for modelling purposes) cotton buds and toothpicks that litter my bench.


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 06:01:36 am
Haaaa!!!!    Kinda like if I ever wash my work truck, all the grime that holds it together will be gone and it will fall apart.

It was getting bad around here...  mainly, kits and empty-ish boxes. It was to the point I couldn't walk from one end of the room to the other. Trip hazards EVERYWHERE and with this stupid pinched sciatic nerve it just hurts too much contorting, twisting, and climbing over all this nonsense. Not only that... things like this attract the stupid brown recluse so it's a good idea to move things around ever so often just as a general rule.

I imagine I'm going to have a few problems not remembering where I organized things to though.  ;D



As far as an update... well.. since I decided to go full-out on this, I didn't exactly get finished. But, I'm down to not much left so it shouldn't take too much effort to wrap up. I have to run errands today, as well, but I should get back to working on actual projects at some point today.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 06:25:13 am
OI!!!!

Looks like I have some competiton.  ;D ;D ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/200LnUb.jpg)

https://spaceaustralia.com.au/
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2017, 07:48:00 am
You're kidding, surely? They didn't REALLY use that as an acronym, did they?

It'd be much more sensible to reverse the R & the S, it wouldn't be pronounceable but it wouldn't have people writing to the papers.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 28, 2017, 08:29:42 am
No, Kit, it isn't a real space agency.

It's a joke but they seem to have marketing, so I hope some of the profits of their merchandising go into the real agency once it's up & running.

Here: https://mumbrella.com.au/australias-space-agency-gets-arse-474457 (https://mumbrella.com.au/australias-space-agency-gets-arse-474457)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2017, 09:16:58 am
Oh good, thanks for that. I thought my brain had gone into overload for a bit.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 01:06:58 pm
 ;D ;D


You know, this day and age... I wouldn't be half surprised if it had been "real."


Update.  THIS TIME, I'm actually going to be done with the hobby room re-organize. Last time I did this I "left the last little bit to do tomorrow" and never got back to it.

All I've left now is to put ~20 bagged kits into these nice cardboard boxes and write on top what they are. This should take about 10 minutes...

Then, back to work on the Feathered Serpent (Kukuclcan). I'd like to get the wings on so I can start putty work. The tops of the wings look great... like... barely a gap at all for non-mathcing parts but due to how I cut them, there is a sizeable gap on the bottm.. (pictures later, I promise).  This is neat... today I re-discovered my red Bondo glazing putty that I had bought for just this type of thing.. so.. it will be neat trying it!! I've heard a lot of good things about it from airplane modellers.


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 02:43:26 pm
Not sure how.. but... I managed to remember nose weight. Kind of too late as I already sealed up the fuselage... but...... before I proceeded further I did manage to remember and boy am I glad I did. This is definitely going to need it.

How do I get it in there?? Tiny bit of space on either side of the seat but the BBs wouldn't fit.... I initally taped a spout on to my glue and was just going to pour the BBs in....

(https://i.imgur.com/HhaBEEU.jpg)

Since that won't work, however, I decided to just drill a hole in the nose (toward the top so it won't come spilling back out).   Good thing I didn't have the nose cone/intake on! 

When I was cleaning the little squiggles off the edges where I drilled, the seam on the nose came apart, so I had to re-glue it. I didn't want to risk touching it so I had to set it down instead of putting weight in..   

At this point I decided to seal up the bottom of the wings since I'll be using the gear bays and gear that came with the Fishbed kit.  Hit a home-run that Airfix did a DAMN fine job molding the doors. They fit BEAUTIFULLY into the gear bay openings...  that's not always the case. Good ol' Airfix though... gave people the option to build this thing with gear up so they aren't all mishapen!!   :lol: :lol: :lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/GUSvpWV.jpg)

There's that..... you see there all the glue and putty... just will need to sand that away. Simple enough. More problematic are the gaps there.... you can seem them now that they're butted against each other. I mean...  it's not a HUGE gap and it will be on the bottom out of sight..so.. no biggy. Can't wait to try this glazing putty.

I have no clue what I'm going to do next... never built anything like this before so it's a bit weird juggling two sets of instructions along with two sets of everything else.

I think what I might do is trim sprues to clear away "visual clutter" (and file burrs away, to be one step ahead on prep) and then go through and determine the stuff I will NOT be using it and get rid of it all together to decrease confusion. I'll throw all that in the parts stash and will no longer be bothered by it!

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2017, 02:48:21 pm
Airfix probably moulded the perfect gear doors as they knew the gear itself was ruddy useless!

I built that kit a decade or so ago, and it had the FLIMSIEST landing gear I've ever seen. Goodness knows how many times I had to glue it back together after taking it to a show and bringing it back broken....  :banghead:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 02:56:35 pm
Glad I dodged THAT bullet!!   

The Fishbed gear *look* nice and stout, thankfully!!!  Like the real stuff... I've learned in recent times that the Soviets really liked strong gear. 
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 03:46:00 pm
Speaking of gear, it's apparent I'm going to have to modify these.... I'm going to have to turn them into those like on an F/A-18 Hornet...   a couple of angles instead of a straight down strut... so that they "tuck" into the fuselage instead of simply folding up into the wings. A lot easier than trying to cut holes in these Phantom wings and all the rest that goes with it. Beside, this will make this a unique touch for this plane... So far it's either part Fishbed or part Phantom, with this gear, we'll have something on there that is NEITHER!  That's a plus in my book! We're really WHIFFIN now!!!

Got all my parts sorted and organized. Kind of disappointed.. I couldn't find one weapon rail that came with the phantom kit... the one that accomodates 3 GPBs... I really would like to have used those but I'll go with missiles instead. I suppose I could go with an asymmetrical loadout but I simply don't want to. Besides, this will save me a decent chunk of time not having to glue and then PSR on six little hard-to-hold bombs.

Other loadout news... it would seem the Phantom game with a couple of GUN PODS. Makes sense....  I think they're really cool so I'll go with them and throw the external fuel tanks in the stash. Besides, I'll have a centerline tank anyway, so long as it works with the undercarriage and "stance."

Getting pretty stoked about this one...   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2017, 04:16:48 pm
That'll be a Fishtom or a Phanbed then.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 06:34:24 pm
 ;D ;D

I like Phanbed...

Update..... the canopy that came with the Fishbed kit is an atrocity. I can't say enough bad things about it...

The frame detail is molded on the inside.

It's scratched and marred all to hell

It's TOO WIDE.

It's TOO LONG.

It's NOT TALL ENOUGH

The SHAPE IS WRONG.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm trying to file and sand it into shape but already I've taken off enough material that some of the problems I mentioned are better while others are WORSE. This thing is straight embarrassing...I know it was the 70's, I know they didn't have good specs and info, but the fitment of this canopy is just garbage.   I think I can sort most of the problems aside from it being too wide...  I'm just going to keep filing and sanding and hope for the best.

These are the little (little, ha) problems that drive me nuts.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2017, 07:01:43 pm
The more I look at this, the worse it gets, and I can't add material back. Looking down the fuselage from front to back this thing is also CROOKED. It's "tilted" to one side.

I'm sort of at the point now where I think I need to just glue the canopy on, mask the majority of it, and fill in with putty, PSR, then scribe the area where canopy meets fuselage. Easier said than done.. I'm no good at this type of work.

No wonder these MiG-21 kits go for like $4 on eBay....   :rolleyes:

The other option is to pose the canopy open.. but that would mean cutting this thing in half. In doing so not only would I lose the material where I cut, but could possibly damage the rest of it depending on HOW I cut... beit old fashioned saw or some type of rotary blade in a drill.

Anyway... some suggestions would be nice.   ;D ;D  I'm a bit lost right now...  :-\

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on September 29, 2017, 02:20:07 am
... some suggestions would be nice.   ;D ;D  I'm a bit lost right now...  :-\

Ditch the $4 MiG and look for a better one?
You should be able to get an Airfix one cheaply.  They have flimsy undercarriage but the rest is OK although it has raised detail.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rheged on September 29, 2017, 02:45:08 am
Diorama as a crashed aircraft?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on September 29, 2017, 04:44:57 am
Hey, Brad

(Uh-oh, He's Baa-aack... yeah, even I'm a little worried... !)

Nice work on the painting of the previous projects, looking forward to seeing more of them.

As far as separating the canopy parts goes, what if you posed the movable part hinged at the rear, so any shortness in the length wouldn't be immediately apparent?
Or, if you wanted to keep it as a side-hinging type, maybe a card shim attached to the rear of the opening where the solid part of the fuselage starts would make up any shortness?

Can't help with the saw, not knowing what you have in the toolbox, but these ideas might work even if you have to use the hacksaw you pictured.

What I would recommend though, is to run a piece of tape over the canopy either side of the intended cut (like a cutting guide), to protect the rest of the canopy - I made that mistake only the once (ok, twice...) and never trust my 'eye' or 'skills' to that degree anymore.

As far as the saw I use, I found one of the CMK photo-etch ones (looks like an old razor blade in size and shape) and the teeth are tiny and the blade is impressively thin - like only about 10 thou thick.

HTH FWIW
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 30, 2017, 02:52:46 am
Thanks everyone. After considering all options, I kept fumbling with it. I looked at US.eBay and the like and no new kit or vacuform canopy could be had for a price I could live it. The more I think the less I want to do open canopy. In my mind where things have to make a bit of sense that would mean a bare bones no-detail cockpit mixed with open canopy don't jive.

Anyway, since I kept fiddling with it, I came to a compromise, I think. I thought, "instead of trying to make the canopy fit the fuselage, make the fuselage fit the canopy."  So, between doing both it's getting closer and closer to looking good.

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on September 30, 2017, 06:19:02 am
Good call, hope you manage to save it. :thumbsup:
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Post by: TheChronicOne on September 30, 2017, 10:48:36 am
Thanks, me too! 

I'm going to leave it all alone today, though, and play Borderlands 2 instead.  ;D ;D ;D

When I looked at this stuff this morning before work it didn't look as bad as I remembered it. "Study long, study wrong." Ya know? The more I ruminate on a problem the worse it seems to get sometimes and that's part of what is going on here. I'm falling back into the same overly-critical thinking and perfection-seeking stuff that I tried to shake off with my one day group build. ANYWAY... point being, taking little breaks from the projects acts like a "re-set" button to get me back on track so I'm just going to drop everything and play video games this weekend instead.  :wacko:



Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on September 30, 2017, 12:29:20 pm
That sounds like a plan. :thumbsup:

I understand what you mean, I've been guilty of overthinking things on way too many occasions and having the project drift to the back of the Shelf 'o' Doom.
Sometimes a 'just make it work and get it completed whatever' attitude is the thing.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 30, 2017, 05:24:56 pm
That sounds like a plan. :thumbsup:

I understand what you mean, I've been guilty of overthinking things on way too many occasions and having the project drift to the back of the Shelf 'o' Doom.
Sometimes a 'just make it work and get it completed whatever' attitude is the thing.

You nailed it!! 

When I can focus on "just do it, it'll be alright" I turn out some stuff I'm completely happy with. Logic would say spending an extra 10 hours should put out a better end result. Having watched billions of hours of Star Trek I know that "logic" isn't always what it's cracked up to be.

My Molossian F-84 is case in point. After 6-8 months of stall I decided to just finish it and live with the flaws and in the end it was something I really like! Sometimes burning 4-6 hours brainstorming or constantly sanding on a seam that just won't get right is just a waste of time. Sometimes things are more than good enough; it just takes stepping away from the project for awhile to realize it.


Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on October 01, 2017, 01:17:19 am
Sometimes you are so closely focussed on a part or join or detail that you forget you've got your face shoved right up close to it and that no-one else is going to do that and that if you sit up and hold it out infront of you at a sensible distance then it'll look a lot better.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 01, 2017, 02:22:03 am
Zigactly Right!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: NARSES2 on October 01, 2017, 04:14:07 am
Sometimes you are so closely focussed on a part or join or detail that you forget you've got your face shoved right up close to it and that no-one else is going to do that and that if you sit up and hold it out infront of you at a sensible distance then it'll look a lot better.

Absolutely mate  :thumbsup: And if they do try and do "that" at a show or something you can "object"  :angel:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on October 01, 2017, 04:41:24 pm
That sounds like a plan. :thumbsup:

I understand what you mean, I've been guilty of overthinking things on way too many occasions and having the project drift to the back of the Shelf 'o' Doom.
Sometimes a 'just make it work and get it completed whatever' attitude is the thing.

Dead right, exactly why it took me over 2 years to finish my F-16W. Had to shift into that attitude cause it just felt wrong to let all the work done go to waste.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 02, 2017, 10:14:31 am
Break time worked magnificently. I'm hands down motivated to work on projects today. All three will have something done!

The coolest part is I've already fixed the whole canopy situation to a satisfactory result so I'm back on track now getting the whole thing going.

Time to go ahead and jam the nose with as much weight as I can. Next up is to file and sand away all the seams, glue, and imperfections on the fuselage and the wings. At this point I'd like to investigate running some rods through the fuselage for the wings to go around.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: DogfighterZen on October 02, 2017, 11:18:57 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 02, 2017, 11:42:06 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 02, 2017, 04:02:50 pm
Well, now, this is a strange new development...   

I am, indeed, working on all three projects and not just piddling, either... I've managed to do critical paint work to the Sea-Fury and major PSR stuff on the Kukulcan (not to mention sorting the canopy travesty). Gloss black has been applied to the Nipples-Go as well (MAN THE SEAMS ON THE WINGS FINALLY LOOK GREAT!!! Astonishing.. they really do look nice now for as far as they have come... from a total disaster).... 

But anyway... I was looking at this Mitsubishi it while it was hanging from the chandelier when I noticed that the engine nacelles are angled outward.... like... maybe 10 degrees??  First inclination is that I did something stupid like glue the wings on upside down or something... but.. that's not it. Anyway... I retreat to my computer here and look up some stuff... trying to find line drawings. Haven't found any yet but I have found pictures of other models that show the same thing. WEIRD. I suppose there is a good reason for it.. it just seems to me that the engines would work better facing directly into the wind stream instead of off to one side.

(https://i.imgur.com/NmLbnSG.png)
You can definitely see it in the bottom right hand pic.

Thoughts on this?


EDIT:   The (very nice, full color!!!!!) painting guide insert and the instructions with the kit show this, as well, although not seemingly as pronounced.. I guess it's legit, it just seems odd to me.
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 02, 2017, 04:19:15 pm
That's quite plausible I reckon, the Sunderland is exactly the same, but all four engine are angled outwards.

IIRC it was because the prototype had some CG problems and the solution was to sweep the entire wing structure a few degrees, but they didn't bother to change the angle of the engine nacelles. Perhaps the Nippon-Go designers had a similar problem?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 02, 2017, 04:28:53 pm
That's quite plausible I reckon, the Sunderland is exactly the same, but all four engine are angled outwards.

IIRC it was because the prototype had some CG problems and the solution was to sweep the entire wing structure a few degrees, but they didn't bother to change the angle of the engine nacelles. Perhaps the Nippon-Go designers had a similar problem?

That would make sense to me.... if the leading edges of the wings were straight(er) the CG would be more forward and this thing certainly LOOKS nose heavy as it is(was).   I bet that's it exactly.

Good to know this isn't some type of flaw or mistake..
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: zenrat on October 03, 2017, 02:24:51 am
Would angling the engines like that reduce yaw in the event of one getting knocked out?

Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 04, 2017, 02:50:58 am
HMM....  interesting idea. Whether that was the intention or not I'd imagine the set up would help at least a little bit, right?
Title: Re: Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)
Post by: TheChronicOne on October 04, 2017, 04:15:25 am
Finished my "rounds" going about looking at other threads here. Forgot to make my own update.

I will be back to work today on something... It's time to spray silver on the Mitsu but the weather might not allow for that so I'll likely leave that project alone completely.

The Sea Fury... well... I re-read the can and I can handle it now.. I think the waiting for weeks and weeks had something to do with touching it without gloves or something... but anyway. I can start putting the transfers on but I'm still in the "decoration planning" stage and need to gather up all the transfers I want to use.

Kukulcan.... needs her wings "applied." I'd still like to put a reinforcing spar or something through the fuselage. Two or three, in fact. OH, and I put the nose weight in and the PVA should be