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GROUP BUILDS => The Cold War GB => Topic started by: zenrat on January 20, 2016, 02:07:40 am

Title: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: zenrat on January 20, 2016, 02:07:40 am
Part of the Cold War's constant technological push forward, the Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 was an experimental aircraft developed from the MiG 15 to research supersonic propellor behaviour and provide a testbed for turbine engine developments.
A Soviet Thunderscreech if you like.  Only faster, louder and first.

I'm using a 1/72 Dragon MiG 15.

Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: Dizzyfugu on January 20, 2016, 02:21:49 am
Wheeeeeeeee!
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on January 20, 2016, 03:05:03 am
Probably more like SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: sandiego89 on January 20, 2016, 08:52:39 pm
Awesome- i'll get my ear plugs ready for the first flght.   ;D

-Dave
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on January 20, 2016, 11:49:25 pm
Did some scratchbuilding on the prop section today but the picture I took was crap.
I have some stuff to photograph with an actual camera rather than a phone so i'll snap some pics of it then.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on January 27, 2016, 02:17:44 am
Pictures at last!

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Screech%20WIP%2027-01-16%202_zpsyki92dmh.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Screech%20WIP%2027-01-16%202_zpsyki92dmh.jpg.html)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Screech%20WIP%2027-01-16%201_zps2a3vgn1s.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Screech%20WIP%2027-01-16%201_zps2a3vgn1s.jpg.html)

Prop blades will go on the white section with the red lines on it.  I'm going to use six cut down resin C-130J scimitar blades.  Given how low a stock 15 rides i'm going to have to either do a lot of trimming or fit longer legs.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 02, 2016, 02:26:35 am
Wings are on and I then spent a pleasant 20 minutes with a 0.4mm drill putting back some of the rivets I lost in the PSR process.
I then glued on the horizontal tails.
As it's a soviet prototype NMF with red stars and no serials is the way it'll be painted.  But before that I need to figure out how long its legs need to be to allow decent length propellor blades.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: Captain Canada on February 05, 2016, 07:53:18 am
Now that is neat looking ! Great job so far.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 07, 2016, 03:24:02 am
Thanks Cap'n.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 08, 2016, 02:02:57 am
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20WIP%208-2-16_zps6sleamwg.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20WIP%208-2-16_zps6sleamwg.jpg.html)
Obviously the blades need trimming slightly but you should get the idea.

Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 08, 2016, 02:24:43 am
SLIGHTLY?  ;D :o :lol:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 08, 2016, 02:38:27 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: ericr on February 08, 2016, 12:23:16 pm

 :thumbsup:

will you have to have longer legs?

Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: Captain Canada on February 08, 2016, 12:42:40 pm
Woah ! Interested to see how slight  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 08, 2016, 03:27:51 pm
It'll get longer legs and shorter blades.
The Thunderscreech had short blades and yet still minimal clearance.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Republic_XF-84H_USAF.jpg).
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 10, 2016, 01:51:36 am
So i've extended the nose wheel leg and in the process lost the bottom half (cut - ping - airbourne - I heard it land somewhere behind me on the concrete floor but I can't find it) and had to scratch up a new part.
I'm hoping that with stock length main legs this'll raise the nose enough to get decent length blades.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2016, 12:17:31 am
Kit, don't look at the picture.

Props on, decals are on and Harriet Huntsman has inspected and approves (8 thumbs up).
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/StarScream%20WIP%2016-2-16_zpspknffjaf.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/StarScream%20WIP%2016-2-16_zpspknffjaf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2016, 02:01:53 am
Thanks Brad.

The pics a set up.  She was on the floor of the shed.  She froze when I walked in but scuttled off under a box when I nudged her with my boot.
When I came back in after lunch she was back on the floor and froze again.  So I picked her up, took her photo and then put her outside.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 16, 2016, 08:54:58 am
Kit, don't look at the picture.

Props on, decals are on and Harriet Huntsman has inspected and approves (8 thumbs up).
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/StarScream%20WIP%2016-2-16_zpspknffjaf.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/StarScream%20WIP%2016-2-16_zpspknffjaf.jpg.html)


Luckily I can't see the pic anyway, it's a small black square for me. Thanks for the warning.  :thumbsup:

[A tad later] AAAAAGHHHHH!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o

I can see it in my quote!  :o
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: ChernayaAkula on February 16, 2016, 11:05:28 am
The Carpet Monster is REAL!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: DogfighterZen on February 16, 2016, 01:14:00 pm
I think that's a couple of beauties right there! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: ericr on February 16, 2016, 02:32:16 pm



Luckily I can't see the pic anyway, it's a small black square for me. Thanks for the warning.  :thumbsup:

[A tad later] AAAAAGHHHHH!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o

I can see it in my quote!  :o

there are continents really frightening to inhabit, it seems


Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2016, 11:53:04 pm
Is this where I tell you thats a 1/24 MiG?

 :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: kerick on February 17, 2016, 10:18:20 am
I was going to ask what scale it was.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: Old Wombat on February 17, 2016, 04:34:36 pm
Harriet's gorgeous! :wub:

The MiG ain't bad, either! :thumbsup:




Seriously, guys, they may be big & hairy (for spiders; I think of them as cute & fluffy) but Huntsman spiders are some of the most placid, intriguing & loveable creatures you'll ever find.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: rickshaw on February 17, 2016, 05:14:12 pm
Seriously, guys, they may be big & hairy (for spiders; I think of them as cute & fluffy) but Huntsman spiders are some of the most placid, intriguing & loveable creatures you'll ever find.

Huntsman Spiders are harmless.  I've always welcomed them when I've found them in the house 'cause I know they kill other insects and spiders.  My sister had one as a pet which used to live in her bathroom and drink from the showerhead when you had a shower.   You have to really, really provoke one to get it to bite you and then the venom is basically harmless to humans.   They are the only spider I know of which lives in colonies in the bush.  They come inside houses to usually escape damp weather.  If you ignore them they'll ignore you and be gone back outside in the next dry spell.  Thing is, you'll only rare see them move!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 18, 2016, 12:00:48 am
I was going to ask what scale it was.

1/72

Seriously, guys, they may be big & hairy (for spiders; I think of them as cute & fluffy) but Huntsman spiders are some of the most placid, intriguing & loveable creatures you'll ever find.

Huntsman Spiders are harmless.  I've always welcomed them when I've found them in the house 'cause I know they kill other insects and spiders.  My sister had one as a pet which used to live in her bathroom and drink from the showerhead when you had a shower.   You have to really, really provoke one to get it to bite you and then the venom is basically harmless to humans.   They are the only spider I know of which lives in colonies in the bush.  They come inside houses to usually escape damp weather.  If you ignore them they'll ignore you and be gone back outside in the next dry spell.  Thing is, you'll only rare see them move!  ;D ;D

Agree with that.  I only moved her outside because she seem determined to freeze in the middle of the floor and I didn't want to tread on her.  I had another, smaller one doing the same in the house today.

Took the camera down to the shed today.
Here's the звезда вопить sitting in its legs.  Front leg is extended, main legs are stock length.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Scream%20WIP%2018-2-16%201_zpstsjrk8wl.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Scream%20WIP%2018-2-16%201_zpstsjrk8wl.jpg.html)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Scream%20WIP%2018-2-16%202_zpskpimkf7h.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%2015%20Scream%20WIP%2018-2-16%202_zpskpimkf7h.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: Old Wombat on February 18, 2016, 01:52:24 am
This one's creeping ahead in my estimation! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: zenrat on February 29, 2016, 02:11:13 am
Finished.  Just need to snap some pics.
I've written the usual load of old tosh to accompany the pics so it should all be up here this time tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37
Post by: Captain Canada on February 29, 2016, 04:49:20 am
This one's creeping ahead in my estimation! :thumbsup:


Haha ! Almost missed that one  :lol:

Looking good Sir ! Love the prop.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: zenrat on March 01, 2016, 12:34:09 am
Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 "Zvezda Vopit"
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%207_zpsuqlwek13.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%207_zpsuqlwek13.jpg.html)
The Cold War saw the Soviet Union constantly working hard to maintain itís technical lead over the USA by pushing the frontiers of engineering.  This was reflected in the range and number of experimental and prototype aircraft designs that came out of the numerous OKBs (Opytnoye Konstruktorskoye Buro - Experimental Design Bureau).
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%2012_zpsmsrwsl8v.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%2012_zpsmsrwsl8v.jpg.html)
Designed by the Mikoyan-Gurevich OKB in the early 1950ís the purpose of the Ye  37 (Ye = Yedinitsa Ė single unit or prototype) was to further the development of high speed propeller and turbine power plant design.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%204_zpspi2r5wuz.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%204_zpspi2r5wuz.jpg.html)
First flown in May 1953 the Ye-37 was a MiG 15 fitted with an experimental Klimov TV1-117 development engine driving a six bladed propeller.
The TV1-117 was a Turboshaft/jet hybrid designed to provide both a shaft output and thrust with afterburner.  Transferred via an output gearbox, the shaft passed beneath the pilot to the propeller.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%201_zpsz8io2wbr.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%201_zpsz8io2wbr.jpg.html)
Right from the start noise was a problem.  As the tips of the propeller blades broke the sound barrier (which they did at anything more than a fast idle) the shock waves caused broken windows, sent loose objects flying and even knocked over unprepared ground crew.  Take off runs had to be carried out on runways well away from other aircraft, personnel and buildings to avoid damaging them and pilots complained of hearing loss, numbness, loose teeth, tinnitus and incontinence following test flights.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%209_zpsdzzvmegd.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%209_zpsdzzvmegd.jpg.html)
The experimental life of the Ye-37 wasnít long.  On August 27 1953 senior test pilot Fedor Fedorovitch strapped on his heavy duty flight truss, adjusted his adult nappy to a more comfortable position, put in his heavy duty ear plugs, donned his sound proof helmet, bit down on his vibration dampening gum shield (his fillings had already been reinforced as a precaution but he was proud of his winning smile) and took the Zvezda Vopit (Starscream - as it was nicknamed by those working with it) up to 40,000ft for the first full power afterburner run.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%2011_zpslt7lzvcc.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%2011_zpslt7lzvcc.jpg.html)
The result was 720mph in level flight and a corridor of sonic destruction 23 miles wide.  There were broken windows, ruptured oil tanks, cracked paving, shattered ceramic tiles, dead and panicked livestock, deafness (both permanent and temporary), miscarriages, heart attacks, seizures, strokes, at least one outbreak of terminal flatulence, a two headed calf was born to a bull and the small farming community of Vludibarstod, which had the misfortune to lie directly under the flight path, vanished into the ground as the permafrost liquidised.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%205_zpsbbii8qlg.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%205_zpsbbii8qlg.jpg.html)
A post flight inspection revealed severe vibration induced airframe fractures and the Zvezda Vopit was grounded never to fly again.
The programme did however provide a vast amount of data which was fed back into both the propeller and engine development teams.
The engine was removed but the airframe remains on display at the Central Museum of the Air Forces at Monino.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%208_zpslsdb9bfb.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%208_zpslsdb9bfb.jpg.html)
Eventually reports of the mysterious swathe of destruction leaked to the West who for many years were so convinced that the name Starscream related to some kind of secret airborne sonic weapon that they allocated millions in research funding in an attempt to find a way of combating it.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/gavinmaillardet/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%2010_zpsxksyzvml.jpg) (http://s70.photobucket.com/user/gavinmaillardet/media/PDRV/MiG%2015s/MiG%20Ye-37%20Starscream%2010_zpsxksyzvml.jpg.html)
The model.  Dragon 1/72 MiG 15 lengthened slightly with scratch built spinner.  The inlet cone is half a bomb of some sort filled with lead and the prop blades are cut down resin C130J scimitar blades (by OzMods I think Ė they come as part of a set with 4 engine nacelles I am saving for those special Whiffs).  Nose gear is lengthened.  Guns are removed.  Paint is silver car paint and metalisers.  Decals are (IIRC) Airfix Pe3.  Red stars only as from my in-depth research (reading Gunston & Gordons book on the MiG 21) it appears that Soviet Prototypes generally didnít carry numbers.
There are some sink marks on the top of the wings above where the flap hinge lines are on the underside.  I didnít fill them as to do so would mean sacrificing all those wonderful rivets to the gods of PSR.  Other than that though itís not a bad kit.
Pilot and ladder are from a Hasegawa Pilots and Crew set.
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 01, 2016, 03:47:20 am
An absolute SCREAM, (pun intended) I love it.  :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:

The description of the final test flight had me in stitches, I'm still grinning now.  :lol: ;D

An absolute WINNER Fred!  ;D
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: su27rules on March 01, 2016, 03:48:57 am
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  Fantastic!!
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: Old Wombat on March 01, 2016, 05:41:58 am
An absolute SCREAM, (pun intended) I love it.  :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:

The description of the final test flight had me in stitches, I'm still grinning now.  :lol: ;D

An absolute WINNER Fred!  ;D

What the esteemed gentleman in the hat said! ;D :bow:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: JayBee on March 01, 2016, 05:51:19 am
An absolute SCREAM, (pun intended) I love it.  :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:

The description of the final test flight had me in stitches, I'm still grinning now.  :lol: ;D

An absolute WINNER Fred!  ;D

What the esteemed gentleman in the hat said! ;D :bow:

I second that comment.  :bow:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: NARSES2 on March 01, 2016, 06:58:55 am
Great build, marvellous story. I was in tears of laughter  ;D :bow: Only time I've heard of terminal flatulence prior to this was in reference to some of my "better" ones, but that referred to their effect on others  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: Rheged on March 01, 2016, 07:43:13 am
An absolute SCREAM, (pun intended) I love it.  :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:

The description of the final test flight had me in stitches, I'm still grinning now.  :lol: ;D

An absolute WINNER Fred!  ;D

What the esteemed gentleman in the hat said! ;D :bow:

I second that comment.  :bow:

....and this makes it unanimous!  This is Whiffery at its anarchic best!!
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: Captain Canada on March 01, 2016, 09:45:53 am
An absolute SCREAM

What he said ! Great stuff. I really like the model, the wee dio is perfect as well. Great story.....thanks !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: Weaver on March 01, 2016, 10:10:53 am
That's great - love the back story: Vludibarstod is presumably in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Bakovbiondistan is it?  ;)
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: DogfighterZen on March 01, 2016, 06:00:57 pm
Mamma mia...  :o That thing would be a weapon of mass destruction, imagine a squadron flying over a target, they wouldn't need anything else... :blink:
That backstory, LMAO reading that, thank you!  ;D :thumbsup:
Excellent work on both creations! :bow:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: zenrat on March 01, 2016, 10:03:50 pm
Thanks folks.  Glad you like it.

Vludibarstod is indeed in Bakovbiondistan H.  It's about 150 miles North of the administrative capital Stalinsarsich...
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: sandiego89 on March 05, 2016, 01:10:52 pm
Wow, turned out great!  I like the off colored panels.  Natural metal can be such a pain. 

-Dave
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: zenrat on March 06, 2016, 01:40:50 am
Thanks Dave.
I've been building a few in NMF recently.  I think i'm subconsciously building up to tackling "the big ones" (the Boxcar and the Peacemaker - although i'm also thinking about the 36 in either RAAF camo or RAF anti flash white).
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: The Rat on April 19, 2016, 05:06:54 pm
I'm late to the party again, but DAMN!!! That's one beautiful bit o' work!  :thumbsup: :cheers:
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: PantherG on April 19, 2016, 11:20:30 pm
Absolutely AMAZING ....  :thumbsup:  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-37 Zvezda Vopit
Post by: zenrat on April 20, 2016, 01:17:01 am
Thanks blokes.