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Title: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 30, 2010, 05:03:45 pm
I start how ever with the cockpit
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Post by: Pablo1965 on October 30, 2010, 05:05:43 pm
The next step was the structure
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Post by: Pablo1965 on October 30, 2010, 05:07:17 pm
Continuing with Milliput
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Post by: Pablo1965 on October 30, 2010, 05:09:54 pm
Primer with Surfacer1000 and sanding, before work with the panels
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Post by: Pablo1965 on October 30, 2010, 05:10:51 pm
Black Primer
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Post by: Pablo1965 on October 30, 2010, 05:12:21 pm
Finishing
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Post by: Taiidantomcat on October 30, 2010, 05:20:13 pm
I really like that!  :o quite clever  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Tophe on October 30, 2010, 10:10:02 pm
Wonderful! Please explain us the principle of your creation... Lengthened Mustang with Corsair wings and tailplanes? Great idea! Why this lengthening? (it is a true enrichment in itself, but is there a technical reason or else?) :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: NARSES2 on October 31, 2010, 03:46:16 am
I would never of thought of that, great work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 31, 2010, 04:12:48 am
I'm glad you like the Cortang, the cause of the bigger fuselage is his relation with the wing profile, the wing of the Corsair have a larger profile and the "tail moment" need to be more far. I'm thinking in a Corsair in the European Theatre, as you know, the engine and compressor  of the F4U, his propeller, wheels, etc are quietly different, and this factor could be introducing another logistical problem more.  I try to minimize all this things and with the parts of my previous "what if" make this Cortang.
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Tophe on October 31, 2010, 10:26:48 am
Congratulations, engineer Pablo! So technically wise... :thumbsup: (I feel like a child... :-\ so less good to justify)
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: upnorth on October 31, 2010, 12:10:23 pm
Wow!

I can't help thinking how that design just screams "Heinkel" from some angles.
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Post by: Sturmbock on October 31, 2010, 12:21:21 pm
I pity the pilot that would have seen one of these on his tail.
Kick-butt model! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 31, 2010, 02:30:12 pm
Thanks Y'all and
Wow!

I can't help thinking how that design just screams "Heinkel" from some angles.

Well the theory of the He112, whose wing area is smaller, is similar because the distance of the tail to the wing is longer than other planes, looking for a better close turn angle. and I think this is the cause of it's similar

I pity the pilot that would have seen one of these on his tail.
Kick-butt model! :thumbsup:

Well, for the same reason I tell above...I Pity the pilot too

Thanks for your words y'all
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 01, 2010, 04:10:34 pm
Impressive craftsmanship!  :wub: :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Draken35 on November 02, 2010, 06:58:56 am
The result is amazing!

I really like that Cortang!!!
Title: Bent-wing Stang
Post by: sequoiaranger on November 02, 2010, 09:10:13 am
That is an interesting idea, and seems to work. Good job.

A long time ago I had thought of using a large (1/32??) Corsair wing on a  (1/72) Short Stirling. It had REALLY tall landing gear because it was so high off the ground--a bent wing would have solved it. Alas, the makings were sold off. I did make an "updated" Stuka-like naval dive bomber for the Japanese using Corsair wings---lots of possibilities!
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: kitbasher on November 02, 2010, 03:01:42 pm
Mental!
Reminds me of the Supermarine 224 (http://www.rjmitchell-spitfire.co.uk/spitfire/images/g_type224gullwing.jpg).
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on November 02, 2010, 03:19:52 pm
That is an interesting idea, and seems to work. Good job.

A long time ago I had thought of using a large (1/32??) Corsair wing on a  (1/72) Short Stirling. It had REALLY tall landing gear because it was so high off the ground--a bent wing would have solved it. Alas, the makings were sold off. I did make an "updated" Stuka-like naval dive bomber for the Japanese using Corsair wings---lots of possibilities!

Yes the change of scale of the Corsair's wing is a great Idea. I want put four 1/72 engines in a 1/32 spitfire. All this thing make this hobby... interesting.

Mental!
Reminds me of the Supermarine 224 (http://www.rjmitchell-spitfire.co.uk/spitfire/images/g_type224gullwing.jpg).
 ;D ;D

Yes really have the same proportions between the wings profile and the "tail moment"
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: PACOPEPE on November 02, 2010, 04:06:30 pm
Difficult work, and perfect finish.  :thumbsup:

How about with folded wings and finish on overall sea blue, like the version of the Navy?.


Regards
Fran
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on November 02, 2010, 04:33:54 pm
Difficult work, and perfect finish.  :thumbsup:

How about with folded wings and finish on overall sea blue, like the version of the Navy?.
Regards
Fran

Well, That scheme was thinked by me, like the original Corsair, but I don't have other two kits to make a fusion, I think this is a profiles Thread matter.
Somebody can make a draw?
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: sotoolslinger on November 03, 2010, 07:07:41 am
Most excellent :wub: :thumbsup: :bow: Your creations are always inspiring :party:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: PACOPEPE on November 03, 2010, 01:53:40 pm
Here there are two aircraft like the yours; with the scheme of the Navy i told you.

Regards
Fran
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on November 03, 2010, 02:51:14 pm
Here there are two aircraft like the yours; with the scheme of the Navy i told you.

Regards
Fran

Wow! Looks like the Martin Mauler. You are make me think in a new cortang for the US Navy. Who knows ... is probably I make another one.
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Tophe on November 06, 2010, 12:44:37 pm
Pablo, I may try to add your Cortang to my gallery of Mustang (simplified) profiles, but maybe I will draw only the interesting lengthening of fuselage. For the wings and tailplanes, finding a Corsair profile source and adjusting its scale to my Mustang would be uneasy. What name would you use for a Cortang reverted back to using Mustang wings and tailplanes while keeping your graceful lengthening? :unsure:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on November 06, 2010, 04:42:17 pm
Pablo, I may try to add your Cortang to my gallery of Mustang (simplified) profiles, but maybe I will draw only the interesting lengthening of fuselage. For the wings and tailplanes, finding a Corsair profile source and adjusting its scale to my Mustang would be uneasy. What name would you use for a Cortang reverted back to using Mustang wings and tailplanes while keeping your graceful lengthening? :unsure:

As you know Mustang is a kind of horse, if you will make another variant You can think in a comparation with other horse more high or long.
Perhaps...Morgan, pinto, palomino, appaloosa and the number P-52,53 etc But you can call as you want.
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Tophe on November 06, 2010, 11:17:21 pm
Thanks a lot Pablo! I have thus added 11 lengthened Mustangs (P-52/53/54) this morning at http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,4461.615.html
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: John Howling Mouse on November 12, 2010, 05:56:31 pm
Well, this is incredible.  You make it look easy.  Sure came together in a professional-looking result.  Like it was meant to be this way.
Very, very impressive work on a great concept/idea.

Wow.   :wub:   :thumbsup:   :bow:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Tophe on November 13, 2010, 12:26:28 am
Yes, JHM, you swallowed Pablo's great fake...! The Cortang model was a true-life pure-JMN work about a top-top-secret winner, while all the workbench pictures are fake, to pretend this was a crazy dream of what-if modeller. Wrong! :lol: ;D A so perfect "final result" simply cannot be non-professional invention, this is impossible, but of course engineer/industrial marvel. Let's be serious :angry: ;) :lol:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Pablo1965 on November 13, 2010, 02:00:46 pm
Thanks for your undeserved words, I'm glad my models are apreciated. During years before I know this site I think I am alone.
For this reason, now I am very grateful only with show my models.
Thanks, and I know you are really a very good group of modellers. :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :cheers:
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: KJ_Lesnick on February 01, 2011, 07:06:18 pm
Pablo1965,

Beautiful aircraft.  I'm wondering if you've expressed any thought of having the guys in the Profiles & CGI forum produce some good line-drawings of such a design?
Title: Re: The Cortang
Post by: Tophe on February 01, 2011, 08:20:16 pm
Dear KJ, it is sad to hear my profiles at http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,4461.615.html (first Nov.7th 2010 reply) were not good... :-\
I understand most ones prefer colour profiles with military markings and panel lines, while I prefer imagining different silhouettes.