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Title: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on February 15, 2010, 05:01:01 am
Just started working on a Sea Control ship as a bit of light relief between the CVF's.

Used strips of 80 thou plastic card to create a block of plastic to act as a basis to the lower hull and then saw, carved, sanded to create the basic hull shape. Created the the hanger walls and built up a deck level around it and then shaped that to match the lower hull. the next deck level that goes up to the flight deck is is set on a different angle so it will be fitted next so that the edge where it meets the lower deck becomes a chine. Flight deck has been cut out so i can use as a template to establis the shape of the deck at the bows and i can then shape the deck to transition between the pointy bows and square flightdeck.
(Photos to follow later)

Once the bows are done its a simple case of detail around the hanger, mark up the flight deck and create the port side sponson under the extended deck. The Island should be relatively simple and the mast can be rebuilt from one of the Sprucan kits.

Now i may try clone this hull, if anybody is interested, It would only be the hull, deck and Island, the details would need to be added by the builder - walkways, doorsm masts, fittings etc.

G
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Aircav on February 15, 2010, 05:09:33 am
Ever thought about buying a disk sander Geoff  ;D
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: proditor on February 15, 2010, 11:28:15 am
*Raises Hand*

Consider me interested in any possible clones.

And either way, I'll be eagerly awaiting photos!
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on February 15, 2010, 02:05:20 pm
A few photos (not brilliant BTW)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS008.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS010.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS011.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS012.jpg)
(In context with the CVF)
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: anthonyp on February 15, 2010, 06:19:45 pm
(jumps up and down like a kindergartener after a four pack of Red Bull)

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahem...

Can I throw my hat into the ring for an (or three) SCS hull clone?
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on May 03, 2010, 01:59:59 am
Had to refine the shape of the hull to the SCS over the past couple of months, but now thats completed i have been able to sort out the flight deck and sponson, aft lift and the basic superstructure. Strill to sort out the outer skin for the port side superstructure as this will have the openings for the gas turbine intakes cut out of it, plus the fwd lift, bridge wings and of course the latice mast.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS001-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS002-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS003-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/SCS006-1.jpg)


G
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: NARSES2 on May 03, 2010, 09:06:20 am
I know we have discussed it in private Geoff,

but I am really going to have to take up the whole "Alt USN" and "Alt FAA" next year and build some alternate Air Wings as an adjunct to your builds.  :thumbsup:

 :cheers:

Duncan

Well I'm gradually building an alternative FAA circa 1946 and have some alternative USN stuff for the same period...so you'll obviously be doing the latter stuff ? All I need is Malta class carriers
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: anthonyp on May 03, 2010, 05:24:38 pm
I know we have discussed it in private Geoff,

but I am really going to have to take up the whole "Alt USN" and "Alt FAA" next year and build some alternate Air Wings as an adjunct to your builds.  :thumbsup:

 :cheers:

Duncan

You could, of course, EMBRACE The Manifesto!!! (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,8042.0)   ;D

Again, Geoff, should you decide to kit this, you know you've got at least one customer across the Pond.
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 03, 2010, 06:21:58 pm
You are a first rate scratch builder!  :thumbsup: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: proditor on May 03, 2010, 07:52:28 pm
Echoing Anthonyp, make that two potential customers.  Amazing work!
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 04, 2010, 03:14:42 am
I reject your manifesto, and substitute my own...  :wacko:

Thanks, but I'm up to my EARS in manifestos just now. Can you wait till Friday please?  -_-
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Martin H on May 04, 2010, 03:16:36 pm
I reject your manifesto, and substitute my own...  :wacko:

Thanks, but I'm up to my EARS in manifestos just now. Can you wait till Friday please?  -_-

Here Here!
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: anthonyp on May 04, 2010, 08:02:22 pm
To reject The MANIFESTO (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,8042.0) is a direct challenge to it.  Post your's, sir, else you be seen as a pretender to insanity!!!
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: roughneck06 on May 06, 2010, 11:00:55 am
Thorvic! You're the greatest!

If you kit it- I'd like to purchase 1 to the of your SCSs!!!!

BTW- Any idea what the USN was considering for names for the SCS????
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on May 06, 2010, 11:04:46 am
BTW- Any idea what the USN was considering for names for the SCS????

No idea but I would suspect the USN would possibly name them after some of the WW2 escort carriers that did a sterling service as the SCS is in effect an indirect descendant.

G
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: roughneck06 on May 06, 2010, 01:52:07 pm
WW2 CVE names sound good. The USN planned for 8 SCS back in the 70's- nominations for names????

Long Island

Block Island

Gambier Bay

St Lo

Sangamon

Santee

Langley ( Honor CV 1 and the CVL)
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 06, 2010, 03:47:56 pm
To reject The MANIFESTO (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,8042.0) is a direct challenge to it.  Post your's, sir, else you be seen as a pretender to insanity!!!

Manifesto, Schmanifesto!

I've had so many of them in the last few days I could paper my walls with 'em, and probably will!  ;D

Roll on midnight and we'll all be done with it for a year or so, only 12 mins to go!
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on May 20, 2010, 04:22:51 pm
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/falcon2-photos/Model%20Shows/North%202010/DSCF0129.jpg)

Current build project for Project Cancelled SIG for SMW2010

G
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: GTX on May 21, 2010, 03:14:38 pm
Intriguing - do I detect a Stealthy theme here.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: proditor on May 21, 2010, 06:36:15 pm
It looks a lot like a couple of Zumwalts I have on my bench...is that going to be CGX?
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on May 22, 2010, 01:17:15 am
It looks a lot like a couple of Zumwalts I have on my bench...is that going to be CGX?

Yeap having a go at a Zumwalt as fite the Project Cancelled theme perfectly as a Stealth warship cancelled after only 2-3 units.

Pretty simple to shape due to flat surfaces, and minimal clutter, plus the likes of the hangers and boat bay can be left opened up.

G
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on September 18, 2010, 04:29:32 pm
Finally finished both the SCS & DDX, although still need to complete the Airgroup.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS002.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS004.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS005.jpg)

Flash is a bit bright but only camera with batteries

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS008.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS010.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Carriers/SCS011.jpg)

The flash washes out some the detailing so will try and get better pics in daylight and with the better camera

G
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: proditor on September 18, 2010, 06:47:15 pm
Bravo!!

 :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Jschmus on September 18, 2010, 09:56:18 pm
What he said!  Geoff, that little SCS is a thing of beauty!
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: NARSES2 on September 19, 2010, 02:08:45 am
Really nice Geoff. :bow: There is something about those "stealth" ships that grab the eye
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: buzzbomb on September 19, 2010, 06:06:53 pm
Much coolness here

very nice work
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: anthonyp on October 21, 2010, 06:04:22 pm
So, any more thought to kitting the SCS?
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on March 21, 2011, 01:50:19 am
Well i have started work on a new SCS hull, i had part done a solid one following discussions with Martin H about moulding but it just didn't feel right and was getting no-where.

So out with the plastic card and strip styene on Saturday and i have knocked together another hull with a hollow hanger. The basic hull shape is completed as is the flight deck shape, and there only the back wal of the hanger to sort out and the recess for the deck lift. Once thats sorted i can create the Island Superstructure.

Now comes the problem, despite being 1/700 its still a sizeable ship and won't be cheap to mould in rubber and then cast in resin, im not sure there is enough interest to invest in getting the rubber and resin as the final cost with shipment to the customers in the US may deter those who have expressed an interest  :banghead: Any ideas ?
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Thorvic on March 23, 2011, 11:06:38 am
Some shots of the new hull with the completed one

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS005.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS008.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS010.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/Thorvic/Project%20Cancelled%202011/SCS013.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: proditor on March 23, 2011, 02:48:05 pm
Without trying to come off crass, would it help if a few of us could give you a dollar/pound figure that we'd consider reasonable?  Maybe via PM?

And again, stellar workmanship.  Just awesome.  :)
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Captain Canada on March 23, 2011, 03:58:56 pm
Some great stuff there. I really like the look of that stealthy ship, but anything that carries a Harrier has my vote !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: anthonyp on April 04, 2011, 08:12:30 pm
I'm still interested, but less in a version that has a hanger, and more in a solid hull one if it'd be cheaper (or, say, one where the hull is hollow on the underside, but solid and detailed up top).

That still looks bloody brilliant, Thor!   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Weaver on April 04, 2011, 08:49:29 pm
Yes indeed - it's an excellent looking model. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: proditor on April 05, 2011, 06:27:28 am
I had an odd thought...what if you did it as a true craftsman kit and just did everything under the flight deck, and provided a template to make the deck itself.  So resin for the hull, and a piece of paper with the template for the deck?  If you want to include the superstructure, that could again be in resin, but cutting out the flight deck from the equation should save a lot of material and weight.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: 1/700 Sea Control Ship scratch build
Post by: Hobbes on April 05, 2011, 06:49:42 am
The hull would still be a big chunk of resin. The best option may be to create some drawings and instructions for creating the hull from stock styrene.
The superstructure can be done in resin.