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Title: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 16, 2009, 07:30:22 am
Hi there, I know it's not really a 'WIF' but it's a cool looking machine all the same, and as I'm planning on doing a conversion from prototype M-50 to the planned operational missile carrying M-52 with the smaller Anigrand model I thought it would fit the bill!! A few of you have been kind enough to pm me about the kit so here it is, Amodels 1/72nd M-50, resin impregnated plastic and IM kit.....( without doubt Amodels finest effort to date!)...

Hope you like it,

 :cheers:

Andy



(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/P1040295Large-1.jpg)





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(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/P1040379Large.jpg)



Did I mention that it's rather a large beastie!!.against my Airfix Vulcan, the wingspan and area are almost the same, only it's twice the length !!!.


(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/P1040420Medium.jpg)

And finally with the B-70....starting to run out of room here!!!


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Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 16, 2009, 08:07:56 am
What a magnificent monster!  :bow: Leave it to the Russians to build aircraft that look like comic book starships!  :bow:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Mossie on September 16, 2009, 08:19:37 am
Remember seeing this on the Cold War SIG table at Cosford, lovely job! :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 16, 2009, 08:27:32 am
Thanks chaps, yep those Rooskies came up with some wonderful designs didn't they ;D ..staggering to think that all these aircraft were designed in the '50's....a time of amazing technical advances..
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: nev on September 16, 2009, 10:22:32 am
Having been lucky enough to see this in the flesh I can confirm

1)  Its enormous :o

2)  Its a fantastic piece of modelling.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Cobra on September 16, 2009, 10:36:29 am
Awesome Job!!!!!!!!!! tell me this Doesn't look like it would come from 'Thunderbirds'!!!!!!!! thanks for Posting!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: BlackOps on September 16, 2009, 12:27:32 pm
 :wub: Beautiful  :wub:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 16, 2009, 12:37:53 pm
Thanks fellas, Gerry Anderson certainly could have used one of these beauties, it just oozes 50's and 60's sci fi...........

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Brian da Basher on September 16, 2009, 01:06:09 pm
Nice!
 :wub:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 16, 2009, 01:24:09 pm
Thanks Brian... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Vostoc7 on September 16, 2009, 02:28:39 pm
Beautiful stuff General  :tornado: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: thedarkmaster on September 16, 2009, 02:30:58 pm


It's a real thing of beuty   :thumbsup:  :wub:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Sauragnmon on September 16, 2009, 09:13:40 pm
That it does, oozing 50/60's scifi - the whole design of the bird just looks awesome.  The ship also looks quite fitting sitting beside the Fishbed, she's just awesome with that sharp tailed delta look.

She's an absolute monster of a plane, and just looks awesome.  Nice work, man.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 17, 2009, 01:51:45 am
Cheers all, here's some footage of the old monster, taken at Zhukovskii in the early 50's. I based the models finish on this version of the first prototype, as the two others I've seen completed carry the light grey/white one off scheme applied  specially for the 1963 Tushino airshow, just thought I'd be a bit different.....

enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF3zGCra1e4


Das General...



Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: rickshaw on September 17, 2009, 07:09:48 am
Cheers all, here's some footage of the old monster, taken at Zhukovskii in the early 50's. I based the models finish on this version of the first prototype, as the two others I've seen completed carry the light grey/white one off scheme applied  specially for the 1963 Tushino airshow, just thought I'd be a bit different.....

enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF3zGCra1e4


Das General...





It must have been an adventure in itself, just getting in and out of those downward lowered seats for the crew!   :o
Title: Nice Work!
Post by: sequoiaranger on September 17, 2009, 10:01:43 am
The world's biggest Lawn Dart!  ;D
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Sauragnmon on September 17, 2009, 10:02:07 am
And the silver scheme likely would have been its service paint - remember that the Tu-95's operated and if I recall still operate in NMF.  The only other paint option would be white like the Tu-16's I think.

That video is something else... and the engines, had to be turbojets for that scream... gods that's a pretty wicked plane, wonder if I can find one in 1/144 to add to my collection one of these days.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 17, 2009, 10:52:34 am
Say no more, ;D

This is the one I'm converting into an M-52 missile carrier,


http://www.anigrand.com/AA4002_M-50.htm

If you notice the bottom pic shows the finished model, and unusually for Anigrand they got it wrong!The outer wings have sweep and the cockpit and spine are too wide!!However, these are all correct for the M-52!!...Maybe they had the wrong plans when designing it!!...very strange, (at least it makes my job easier)...


Fun and games getting into the thing!!

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/ladder_01.jpg)

Also ...yep the engines were turbojets, a mix of two types, the Dobrynin VD-7M and the VD-7B, only the inner engines had afterburners and the performance was quite poor, if only they had fitted the intended engines how different the story would have been. The production M-52 was to have four substantially more powerful Zubets 16-17 turbojets. Apparently the M-52 was built though never flown, but as these pictures show it is more likely a mockup, ( notice the support trestles, dodgy shiny tyres and third undercarriage leg in the centre), it was to be an integrated missile system using two AS-4 Kitchens, a rudimentary 'fly by wire' system plus an inertial navigation system and at least one other variant was to be built as an ECM platform, (again more likely an ECM jammer pretty much like the TU-22 KPD Blinders)...

Still, a nice little project that I'll crack on with in the near future...


Anyway this is the M-52,

 :cheers:


(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/m52k.jpg)







(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/m52-1.jpg)







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Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 17, 2009, 11:01:29 am
How about this for amazing ...the intended ZELL rocket pack...zero length launcher!!!.to raise 180 tons into the air in one almighty blast!!! :blink:







(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/m52-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Radish on September 17, 2009, 11:03:39 am
Awesome!!!!
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Mossie on September 17, 2009, 12:37:04 pm
There were plans to stick it on a mobile launcher too!

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Mossie105/Aircraft/MyasischevM-50ZELL.jpg)
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 17, 2009, 01:19:58 pm
Now that is pure Thunderbirds!!.wouldn't want to be too near it at launch.. :o...the airframe is a mix of M-50 and M-52..........
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Mossie on September 17, 2009, 02:06:13 pm
Yeah!  Can you imainge, in Thunderbirds it would take off & land on the launcher, whilst it was moving!!!  :party:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Sisko on September 17, 2009, 02:33:51 pm

Seems there is someone else out there with a love for the big Russian bombers! :cheers:

Great build of a truely amazing aircraft! :wub:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: chrisonord on September 17, 2009, 02:48:30 pm

Seems there is someone else out there with a love for the big Russian bombers! :cheers:

Great build of a truly amazing aircraft! :wub:
I am also a big fan of Russian bombers, and all the stuff from the 50's to the 70's.
Having a collection of models of these behemoths is one of my ambitions that is for sure :cheers:
Chris.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 18, 2009, 01:00:44 am
Cheers chaps, yep I really have a thing for these big Soviet monsters, on the workbench at the moment is the Amodel Bison 3MS, highly reworked ESCI/Revell TU-22 Blinder KPD escort missile jammer, Trumpy TU-16 Badger C mod, Amodel TU-128 Fiddler, Roden AN-12BK Cub and Anigrand M-50 (conversion to M-52 pending)...................arriving this week Trumpy TU-22 Backfire C....not sure where they are all going to go but I'll worry about that later :banghead:................ (and a few other whif ideas along the way of course!!)..

Das vidania.... :cheers:

Andy

Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: nev on September 19, 2009, 01:08:35 am
Good grief Andy, do you own the southern half of Lincolnshire?  I look forward to seeing them all mind ;)

And here I am wondering what to do with my Mi26 if I ever build it!
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 19, 2009, 02:04:35 pm
The long lost Lincolnshire talent for folding time and space comes in handy here Neil....... :thumbsup:
Hopefully start the big Russians again once all the stuff for Telford is sown up,

Just to prove I'm not telling porkies here they are primed and ready for the paint shop, (minus the Bison which is too big to fit in and still on the production line)..



(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/P1060245-1.jpg)



Cheers all, :cheers:

Andy
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: pyro-manic on September 19, 2009, 03:35:40 pm
How is the AModel Fiddler to build?

Very impressive, I must say. Wish I had the space (and money, and time) for these big models.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: chrisonord on September 19, 2009, 03:46:45 pm
I do like the Tupolev fiddler also, it would fit in well with my cartel aircraft theme,but the Amodel thing and the price of them really puts me off.
I have built one Amodel kit and have another in the stash, and yes I get shivers just thinking about them :o
Chris. 
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 19, 2009, 04:44:31 pm
I've built seven Amodels now, 3 Amonsters, Bounder, Bear and Bison and 4 of the smaller ones, SU-9, SU-11, Yak 28PP Firebar and TU-128 and find them all enjoyable as I'm not really into the 'shake-and-bake Tami-Hase-Fujimifix 'stuff and prefer to really build a model from the bottom up, scratching quite a bit of it myself. Having said that the 'smaller' kits like the Fiddler, SU-9 and 11, Yak series, etc are quite challenging in that the parts breakdown is complex mainly because Amodel use low pressure moulding, which can result in vague shape and limited size moulds, (this has only changed quite recently with the introduction of the Amonster range using resin impregnated fibreglass for the large fuselage sections enabling whole pieces to be cast).The one thing they are though is very accutrate, and with a bit of patience can be built into quality models of these rare and exotic types.
Think vacform with thicker plasticmeets very early Airfix and I think you get the picture...
The Fiddler is probably one of their most complex kits to attempt but as I said is very accurate, unlike the ESCI/Revell Blinder which has needed more surgery than Joan Rivers to bend it into anything like an accurate representation of this awesome bomber. :banghead:

Just my thoughts on these kits,

Cheers fellas,

Andy


Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: pyro-manic on September 19, 2009, 04:59:17 pm
Thanks for the info. I have the AModel Firebar, but haven't built it yet - I started the clean-up work, but there's so much of it I gave up. I'll get back to it soon, as I now have the colour scheme and markings worked out. I'd also like to do the La250 and the Fiddler in the near future.

:cheers:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: nev on September 20, 2009, 12:51:26 am
Know what you mean, got so far with my AModel An-32, but stalled at the first round of PSR - several more to go!  Its still sat by the modelling desk, daring me to pick it up again....
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Mossie on September 20, 2009, 04:36:40 pm
Know what you mean.  I keep looking at my Ka-226, tiny though it is, & putting back on the shelf.  :blink:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 21, 2009, 10:47:00 am
Come on chaps .....seize the day and all that!!
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: nev on September 21, 2009, 10:39:28 pm
Seize the pollyfilla more like......
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 22, 2009, 04:11:44 am
True Neil...Portland cement more the order of the day!...........they all seem a bit hit and miss...the SU 11 went together beautifully, (except for over sized cockpit tub) but the SU-9  was a complete 'mare'...you'd think they would be virtually the same kit...but no, too easy!...The Fiddler really lives up to its name...it's a bu$%er to get to fit...but I like a good scrap!! and it look good when beaten into submission....

The Bounder is in another class completely, ( and so it should be at that price!!!), not in the 'Hasetamifujimianese' mould but easily as good as the new Airfix offerings. According to sources they have a completely different setup for the new Amonsters..............mind you saying that the 3MS Bison I'm doing was one of their first and isn't much better than the basic kits :banghead:.Apparently the new V12 Homer is a beauty.... :wacko:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Mossie on September 22, 2009, 06:26:28 am
Don't turn your back for a minute, he'll have it off you before you can say 'huge & hugely expensive helicopter kit'!
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Sauragnmon on September 22, 2009, 08:50:51 am
nah, putting the Monster in AMonster would be their Spruce Goose they're working on.  What's next, a 225???
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: nev on September 22, 2009, 09:42:56 am
V-12.....how I would love to be able to afford that one (and the TEL to roll out the back of it in a Central German diorama..)

Still, all this talk of Amodel, I can hear my An-32 calling to me.....now I now how Frodo felt having the ring of power so close to him for all that time! :banghead:
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: nev on September 22, 2009, 10:27:47 am
Here is the aforementioned kit of evil for those who might be interested in seeing the sufferings of another modeller

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=177242&st=0&gopid=1812347&#entry1812347
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 22, 2009, 11:55:01 am
Blimey Neil, you've done the hard bit!!!..looks good to me, get to it!

Sauragnmon , their 1/144th 225 is in the wings, and even in that scale that will be quite a size ;D


(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/AMOD14417_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Sauragnmon on September 22, 2009, 08:42:16 pm
Go Figure they're doing one, but it's on 1/144 which seems odd for them, one would have imagined they would have dared to make an AMonster out of it in 72, living up to their names.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on September 23, 2009, 01:54:53 am
You're right, but I think it might be a bridge too far, knowing that not many people are likely to have the storage for such a monster let alone display space.
Still , you never know ;D
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: Mossie on September 23, 2009, 02:03:20 am
I've got a feeling they're testing the water.  A 1/72 Mriya will be a huge piece of plastic & very expensive going by their Homer.  It makes sense, put out a kit in 1/44, generate interest, then maybe go for the biggy.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: lancer on September 23, 2009, 10:26:09 am
How is the AModel Fiddler to build?

Very impressive, I must say. Wish I had the space (and money, and time) for these big models.

It's both good and bad!! the worst problem I had with mine was the intake trunking didn't fint inside the fuselage, dispite lots of jiggering and poking!! In the end I had to loose it, but ti didn't matter in the overall scheme of things. It was also a but of a putty minster around the intakes, but most of the kit went together pretty well. An d, being a glutton for punishment I've got 2 more in the stash to do. One of which will become an RAF very long range patrol/interceptor covering the GIUK gap.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: lancer on September 23, 2009, 10:31:44 am
\These are the Amodel kits I've built so far - TU128, SU11, YAK130D, SU15TM - way overscale cockpit panels so a lot of sanding to get them thing enough and I'm currently building the LA250 Anakonda as an in service machine!
In the stach I've got 2 more TU128's as previously mentioned, A Yak 28 Brewer with the glass nose and 2 or 3 more that I can't think of at the 'mo.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: pyro-manic on September 23, 2009, 01:20:37 pm
Thanks, lancer. :) I must get back to my Firebar soon.
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: wolfik on October 05, 2009, 05:39:55 am
a wonderfull build....
and ...its very big....wow
Title: Re: Myasischev M-50 Bounder
Post by: General Melchet on October 05, 2009, 01:45:41 pm
Thanks Wolfik, it is indeed rather a monster, coming in at just over 36 inches.........a big boy. roughly the same as the Valkyrie...only slightly narrower! :cheers: