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GROUP BUILDS => 2009 Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => HOG memorial GB => Topic started by: Weaver on July 11, 2009, 06:20:56 am

Title: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Weaver on July 11, 2009, 06:20:56 am
There's been various suggestions of a HOG memorial GB for Gary Allum: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,25168.0.html

Rather than clutter up the condolences thread with a discussion about it, I've dragged up an old GB idea I had, inspired by his work, as a discussion starter here:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20005.msg364516.html#new

RIP HOG
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 11, 2009, 06:51:56 am
I think having a Group Build to pay homage to the memory of HOG is an excellent idea. His work was truly original and inspiring.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: cthulhu77 on July 21, 2009, 11:21:29 am
How about a GB where everything that is built has to incorporate the word "HOG". You can build a huey gunship, or a High Observation Gun,  a Heavy Overtank/ Ground...etc. .????
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Weaver on July 21, 2009, 04:36:36 pm
How about a GB where everything that is built has to incorporate the word "HOG". You can build a huey gunship, or a High Observation Gun,  a Heavy Overtank/ Ground...etc. .????

You'd better declare the A-10 out of bounds for such a build though..... ;D
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: BlackOps on July 21, 2009, 07:35:12 pm
I don't know, It sounds like it would be to hard to build stuff out of found items.  :rolleyes:     

You know I'm in!  ;D 

I think if I ever finish my Toner Cartrige Space Carrier project it will definately be named after HOG.  :cheers: Now I need to start rooting through the junk pile again!
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on July 29, 2009, 08:36:28 pm
The Hog BG needs to be a 'found item' GB.  That way BO can FINALLY finish his toner cartridge space carrier, and I can get rid of my broken remote control and turn it into a space liner. 

I think this theme would best honour his most original stuff.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: philp on July 29, 2009, 09:11:54 pm
I think it should involve an Inhaler in some way. 
Come on, you all have a friend who just throws them away.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 30, 2009, 01:58:14 pm
The Hog BG needs to be a 'found item' GB.  That way BO can FINALLY finish his toner cartridge space carrier, and I can get rid of my broken remote control and turn it into a space liner. 

I think this theme would best honour his most original stuff.

Concur.
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: cthulhu77 on August 01, 2009, 07:18:45 am
I agree. Found item build is the best idea. 
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Weaver on August 01, 2009, 10:00:21 am
Some found items inspiration here:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20005.0.html
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Tuck on August 27, 2009, 03:28:45 pm
Here is my start at a Memorial Build to HOG.

This is an Arado..err, umm Oh hell I dunno....

Had two old Hobbycrap Ar 234 B and C kits laying around, add one Monogram ME 262, parts from the spares bin, etc.etc. and you get this madness....

There actually was a proposal for something kinda like this:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/luftbct/Luft%2046/HOG-GB004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/luftbct/Luft%2046/HOG-GB003.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/luftbct/Luft%2046/HOG-GB001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/luftbct/Luft%2046/HOG-GB002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/luftbct/Luft%2046/HOG-GB005.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/luftbct/Luft%2046/HOG-GB006.jpg)

Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: GTX on August 28, 2009, 01:43:16 pm
Quote
There actually was a proposal for something kinda like this:

That would be the Messerschmitt Me P 1109:

(https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Messerschmitt-P1109/IMAGES/Me-1109-3view-scissors-wing.jpg)
(https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Messerschmitt-P1109/IMAGES/Merek-Rys-scissors-wing.jpg)
(https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Messerschmitt-P1109/IMAGES/Marek-Rys-scissors-wing.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/uni1ua/bigph/me1109.jpg)

Can't wait to see the final product.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: PanzerWulff on September 06, 2009, 10:21:46 am
my idea for a HOG GB build would be this lil guy saved from kids meal oblivion I was wodering if lil toys like this would fall under the "Found Item" catagory??? esp as I found it in a parking lot ;D To give some feeling of the size of it I used my 1/72 "Zac Attack" P-40 as a scale reference I figured to say his scale is 1/72 for the project.A lil button on his back flapps the wings but I plan to fix the wings in place and remove the gaps between the wings and body (or would it be Fuselage???? :blink:) and giving him a helmet and visor for starters What ya think???
"Panzer"
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/PanzerWulff/spiro1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/PanzerWulff/spiro2.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/PanzerWulff/spiro3.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/PanzerWulff/spiro4.jpg)
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: lancer on September 08, 2009, 07:56:08 am
Hey!!! Thats Pyro from the 'Pyro The Dragon' Games series!!! Can't wait to see this all tarted up!!
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on September 24, 2009, 04:54:29 pm
Assuming there's no objection from the rest of the moderating team, I'm hoping to get this one started in the next week.

I'm thinking of splitting this into two categories: dioramas and projects made from "found objects". What are your thoughts?
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Weaver on September 24, 2009, 09:20:16 pm
Assuming there's no objection from the rest of the moderating team, I'm hoping to get this one started in the next week.

I'm thinking of splitting this into two categories: dioramas and projects made from "found objects". What are your thoughts?
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher

Since there may be cross-over between the two categories ("found" model in a nice diorama), why not have one GB but with two voting threads at the end of it, one for Best Use of Found Objects and one for Best Diorama?
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: nev on September 24, 2009, 10:58:52 pm
I think thats a better idea.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 25, 2009, 11:26:54 am
Yup, Weaver's idea sounds pretty good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Modelling_Mushi on September 28, 2009, 04:06:48 am
I agree with Weaver, Nev and ChernayaAkula, two categories would be great and, if someone really aces it, they could pick up both.
Mass
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on September 29, 2009, 12:58:52 pm
Quote from: Weaver

Since there may be cross-over between the two categories ("found" model in a nice diorama), why not have one GB but with two voting threads at the end of it, one for Best Use of Found Objects and one for Best Diorama?

You read my mind and that's exactly what I envisioned.

I can moderate or co-moderate this GB, but if anyone else would like to volunteer, I'll  pass the baton.
 :cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: SinUnNombre on October 05, 2009, 12:05:16 pm
Any word on if and when this might be starting? I'd love to join.

Jon
Title: Not a trivial question
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 05, 2009, 12:45:17 pm
Can styrene junk be considered "Found object"?
Title: Re: Not a trivial question
Post by: Weaver on October 06, 2009, 04:13:41 am
Can styrene junk be considered "Found object"?

Finalised rules havn't been agreed yet.

In the Blue Peter GB which I proposed, and which fed into this as a starting point, I suggested quite strict rules to encourage innovation: no "major structural component" to be from a model kit or modelling "raw material" such as plastruct/evergreen etc... Minor detailing using kit parts was allowed, particularly where there's no reasonably alternative, such as canopies/propellors/undercarriage etc... What does or doesn't qualify as a "major structural component" would up to the mods.

Blue Peter GB here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20005.0.html
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Mossie on October 06, 2009, 04:23:51 am
I would suggest relaxing the rules to let more take part.  Gary did a lot of conversions & kitbashes too.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: nev on October 06, 2009, 09:34:06 am
I'm with Simon.  If the rules are that strict, I'm out because what I want to do would be ineligable.

Lets not forget this is meant to comemorate a dead comrade, and a modelling free spirit.  Lets not bog it down with endless rules.  As long as the basis for your build is a "found item" I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Weaver on October 06, 2009, 10:30:31 am
Fair comment, but then how do you differentiate a "found items" build from a "spares box" build? My feeling is that the point of the exercise is to capture the spirit of HOG's inhaler builds, rather than just be a re-run of the Styrene Junkyard GB.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Mossie on October 06, 2009, 12:25:50 pm
I thought the point of the exercise was as a memorial to Gary?  I don't think he'd worry too much what we'd do.

My feeling would be for virtually no rules at all, just for everybody to tribute Gary in the way they thought best.  Just my feeling, I definately don't want to upset anyone about this.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Weaver on October 06, 2009, 06:28:48 pm
I definately don't want to upset anyone about this.

Ditto: it's just a point for discussion, not something I'm banging the drum about. The Rules of a GB have to be set out, even if the The Rules are that there are No Rules.... ;D I'm more than happy to go with the consensus view. In any case, I can't imagine a set of rules that wouldn't allow what I have in mind.
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 08, 2009, 02:18:23 pm
I propose we get things going October 15th and have this run to December 15th, with the last two weeks of December reserved for an extension if necessary.

Beside having the "found objects" and diorama categories, I'd like to leave the rules fairly loose. I think entries in the "found objects" category should consist of a basis or majority of parts not from a model kit as a nod to the famous inhaler/headphone speaker projects HOG was so well known for. As always, I'm open to suggestions. Please feel free to add your thoughts.
 :cheers:
Brian da Basbher
Title: Re: Re HOG memorial GB
Post by: philp on October 08, 2009, 06:15:49 pm
I propose we get things going October 15th and have this run to December 15th, with the last two weeks of December reserved for an extension if necessary.
Brian da Basbher

Timeframe sounds good as they would then qualify for the Whiffies.