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Title: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on July 28, 2008, 04:48:18 pm
G'day Gang,

Modellverisum has a review of the double-boxed Hase MiG-21F & MiG-17.  Both kits are fairly old, being original moulds, but that have provided three decal options for each.  Obviously the Revell Fishbed would be better served, although we're yet to see a decent Fresco.

http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=3608

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 29, 2008, 06:00:23 am
From an accuracy point of view, Hase Fishbed is pure crap, even Airfix one is much better.
About Fresco, I think it is out of scale, oversized, but I will check. The other contender would be KP that is much worse in details, but I think is more accurate. If you want a decent Fresco, try Bilek (not easy to find) or Dragon.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Radish on July 30, 2008, 12:11:50 am
Revell MiG-21
Wait for the hobbyBoss miG-17
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on July 30, 2008, 04:46:06 am
From the pictures, the MiG-21's fuselage looks seriously short.....
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: McGreig on July 30, 2008, 04:55:51 am
And now, M'Lud, a few words from the Defence.

I have a soft spot for these kits and have bought two :blink: of this double kit release.

It's true to say that, if you want an accurate MiG-21, don't start from here. However, the decals are worth having and the examples that I bought have virtually no flash and fit together well so that, if you don't know much about the Mig-21 or don't care too much about accuracy, you'll end up with an attractive model that looks like a MiG-21 (so long as you don't stand it beside a Revell or Bilek model  :wacko: )

Another reason that I like the MiG-21 is that, because it's overscale (like its Academy clone), the wings are useful if you want to scratchbuild the MiG-23-01 Faithless or the MiG-23M project or one of the MiG-21 projects that had larger wings, or just for whiffing generally. I'm also thinking of using parts of the fuselage for the Ye-50 series of mixed power fighters.

The MiG-17 is not bad either. Set against the plans that I have, its two main problems are that the wing span is too great and the fin is too large. The wing can be fixed by removing a section from the parallel chord section between the two inner wing fences and cutting down the fin shouldn't be a big problem. I've never bothered to do this with the ones that I've built but (my personal opinion only) I think that, even with its flaws, the Hasegawa kit looks much better than the KP kit which seems to have a narrow, cartoonish wing or the Bilek/Dragon kit which just seems too delicate.

Again, this release of a very old kit has very little flash, fits together well and has interesting decals.

So go on - don't just buy one, buy two - you know it makes sense  :drink:

Weaver - The MiG-21 is overscale and its fuselage is actually too long
Radish - I agree about the Revell MiG-21 but I thought that the Hobby Boss MiG-17 was going to be 1/48?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Geoff on July 30, 2008, 05:54:55 am
Hase have also released the Tiger and Cougar togeather as a double kit.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: lancer on July 30, 2008, 12:24:01 pm
Hase have also released the Tiger and Cougar togeather as a double kit.

I know! I brought one at the weekend.
I agree about the Revell kit of the MiG, BUT, it is an early version. I was hoping that revell would mould some of the later versions as well. Purely a personal opinion, but I prefer the later models.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2008, 05:17:53 am
Then ... Fujimi is the answer: superb and not expensive.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: McGreig on July 31, 2008, 08:28:06 am
Then ... Fujimi is the answer: superb and not expensive.

We seem to have wandered away from the original Hasegawa topic, but I completely agree about the Fujimi kit.
The Zvezda "PFM" and "bis" are good if you can find them but the Fujimi model is my favourite MiG-21 kit.  :wub: :wub:
Oddly, you don't have to look far on the internet to find people rubbishing it and a slightly obsessive Finn :dalek: once told me that he had compared the "Black Lynx" boxing to the real thing and that all the panel lines on the kit were wrong! 

While it certainly has its problems - the fuselage is too chunky, the fuselage bulges above the wheel wells are offset forward, and all the "MF" versions actually have the larger "bis" spine, it is a real pleasure to build and the flaws aren't noticeable when it's built - look at AD's ETPS version in the one week GB.

It certainly looks like a late model MiG-21 when it's completed. I've built about half a dozen of them and I have at least 25 in the stash (you can't have too many MiG-21s  ;D)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Radish on July 31, 2008, 08:37:30 am
Hannants have a 1/72nd MiG-17PF listed from HobbyBoss in Future Releases.
I've a couple on order.
I agree re: the Hasegawa MiG-17PF....I've built a few in the past and it's a nice looking model.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Geoff on July 31, 2008, 11:05:57 am
The spines did get changed on some Mig-21s at unit level. The SMK was the main one when they realised the CoG was truely screwed with the extra tankage in the "Humpback". IIRC they got fitted with "M" and "MF" spines. So it's possible that other subseries got them changed during overhaul?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2008, 11:08:15 am
The spines did get changed on some Mig-21s at unit level. The SMK was the main one when they realised the CoG was truely screwed with the extra tankage in the "Humpback". IIRC they got fitted with "M" and "MF" spines. So it's possible that other subseries got them changed during overhaul?
Do you mean SMT?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Geoff on July 31, 2008, 11:13:45 am
yep! sorry.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on January 05, 2009, 09:28:23 am
Modellversium.de (http://www.modellversium.de/) has provided a couple of kit reviews for the following model aircraft kits:

Hasegawa # 00921, 1/72nd scale Lockheed S-3A Viking (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=3945). 
While this is an older kit it is worth checking to see the images of the kit contents. Markings provided in the kit for one aircraft, Bu-No 9391 with normal squadron markings in 1975 and the special 1976 Bicentennial paint scheme.   
(http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/9/4/5/3945-deckel.jpg)
(image source: Modellversium.de (http://www.modellversium.de/))

Hasegawa # 00924, 1/72nd scale Lockheed EKA-3B Skywarrior (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=3962). 
Markings provided in the kit two aircraft:
* VAQ-131 Lancers, AB 615, USS John F. Kennedy, BuNo 142252, June 1970
* VAQ-130 Zappers, NG 614, USS Constellation, BuNo 147660, June 1972
(http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/9/6/2/3962-deckel.jpg)
(image source: Modellversium.de (http://www.modellversium.de/))
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on January 27, 2009, 10:16:24 am
Here's the box art for J7-W2 jet Shinden Kai. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/NEWDETAIL/0901/09846.html
Looks like the kit gains some anti-aircraft rockets as well as the Jet parts. Has optional Luftwaffe markings for Heinz Bar's Red 13. Whif-tastic model.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 29, 2009, 08:22:50 am
The box-art of that jet Shinden is very, very cool! :bow:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on January 31, 2009, 02:16:44 pm
Hasegawa is doing a dual combo of two Mirage F-1CR's including resin parts for updating from the standard C kit. Desert and grey green camo schemes. http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=HAS00957

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on February 02, 2009, 06:25:54 am
^ If the price is right and the decals are by Cartograf -->  :party: :cheers:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on February 06, 2009, 09:10:31 am
Don't know if anyone here is into this but Hasegawa has announced it's next Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K.) kit is to be the Lunadiver Stingray in 1/35th scale. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/nrb/P/MaKruna.jpg

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on February 11, 2009, 10:29:34 pm
(http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/images/has_01561_title.jpg)

Michael Benolkin has just posted a in-box kit review of the new Hasegawa #01561, 1/72 scale E-2C Hawkeye ("Hawkeye 2000") (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_01561.shtml) for your review on Cybermodeler (http://www.cybermodeler.com/). 

The MSRP on this little gem is $58.95 (US$) which will make you and your wallet cringe when you go to cash out and take this kit home. 
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 12, 2009, 06:05:29 am
Don't know if anyone here is into this but Hasegawa has announced it's next Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K.) kit is to be the Lunadiver Stingray in 1/35th scale. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/nrb/P/MaKruna.jpg

Paul Harrison

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Maschinen Krieger"?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 12, 2009, 06:06:14 am
The Hannants price for the new Lancaster GRIII with lifeboat is an eyewatering £55.00.  My response is unfortunately too harsh for the delicate maidens who post here.

Oh, go on - you know you want to................ :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I'm guessing it involves "sideways" and "and the ....... lifeboat...."
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jschmus on February 12, 2009, 01:14:56 pm
Don't know if anyone here is into this but Hasegawa has announced it's next Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K.) kit is to be the Lunadiver Stingray in 1/35th scale. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/nrb/P/MaKruna.jpg

Paul Harrison

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Maschinen Krieger"?

Maschinen Krieger is a scifi seriescreated by Kow Yokoyama in the 1980s.  It centers around a future war fought by forces primarily composed of powered armor suits.  It was intended to create a very different visual style from the Japanese "giant robot" genre.  Here's the Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maschinen_Krieger_ZbV_3000

A good selection of (well) built-up models can be seen here:
http://www.maschinenkrueger.com/
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 12, 2009, 08:37:32 pm
Don't know if anyone here is into this but Hasegawa has announced it's next Maschinen Krieger (Ma.K.) kit is to be the Lunadiver Stingray in 1/35th scale. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/nrb/P/MaKruna.jpg

Paul Harrison

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Maschinen Krieger"?

Maschinen Krieger is a scifi seriescreated by Kow Yokoyama in the 1980s.  It centers around a future war fought by forces primarily composed of powered armor suits.  It was intended to create a very different visual style from the Japanese "giant robot" genre.  Here's the Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maschinen_Krieger_ZbV_3000

A good selection of (well) built-up models can be seen here:
http://www.maschinenkrueger.com/


Ahhhhh - MaK is SF3D by another name: thought the style looked familiar.  Cheers :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on February 14, 2009, 11:34:21 am
Yep Weaver it's a continuation the SF3D models. I read somewhere that Kow Yokoyama bought all the old moulds from Nitto and is planning to repop them himself if the moulds are in reasonable condition. Saw a pic on a Japanese site of a dark blue Vtol with a Bo105 cockpit, Looked very interesting.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Daryl J. on February 14, 2009, 08:45:52 pm
There's bags of whiffer potential in this guy:

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10083036a2/20/2 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10083036a2/20/2)

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on February 15, 2009, 04:40:16 am
Not new kit news, but the latest batch of new arrivals inthe UK have eye-watering prices.  1/48 F-15DJ, a kit over 20 years old, £38!!!!  The new tool 1/72 Hawkeye?  £32.50!!!!!!

I've wanted both these kits since they were announced, but not at that price!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Zeke on February 15, 2009, 06:11:46 am
Nev, I had a good look in the new 1:72 Hawkeye box at Yeovilton yesterday and even at that price it's reasonable value...it is just gorgeous!
If you consider that peices of poo-poo (with an english accent) like Trumpeters 1:49 Sea Fury are rrp'd at £24.99 then the extra is worth it.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on February 16, 2009, 05:08:41 am
It also appears to be a bit of a putty monster from the WIP threads on BM & ARC.  At that price I would at least have hoped for it to include wingfold options.

As for Trumpeter, they've got seriously greedy lately.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on February 25, 2009, 10:12:42 am
Hasegawa has posted pics on their site of the new 1/48th scale F-16I Sufa.

(http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/09.3/09857/12.jpg)
(http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/09.3/09857/4.jpg)

More pics on their site. (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/J-index.htm)

Paul Harrison




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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: GTX on February 27, 2009, 01:12:32 pm
Hasegawa has posted pics on their site of the new 1/48th scale F-16I Sufa. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/09.3/09857/12.jpg

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/09.3/09857/4.jpg
More pics on their site. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/J-index.htm

Paul Harrison

Already have plans to use - see here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,18691.60.html) (the EF-16G idea).

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on February 28, 2009, 04:21:54 pm
Good idea Greg, thought about Fowler for the name but that's a bird hunter so would probably be better for a fighter? :blink:

Dragon USA says that the Recon version of the 1/48th Draken is due in July (2 Swefdish S35E & 2 Danish RF-35 (http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=HAS09872)) as is the 1/48th AEW Sea King kit with resin and metal parts. (http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=HAS09863)

The new tool 1/32nd Ki44-II (http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=HAS08880) is due then too.

Main Dragon USA site (http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/welcome.asp).

Paul Harrison






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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on March 06, 2009, 06:34:23 am
Aero Scale has an in box review of the 1/48th J7-W2 Jet Shinden by Rowan Baylis. (http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=3938)

Paul Harrison








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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: GTX on March 07, 2009, 10:37:30 am
Aero Scale has an in box review of the 1/48th J7-W2 Jet Shinden by Rowan Baylis. (http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=3938)

Paul Harrison

Interesting it already comes ready for whiffing with Luftwaffe decals as well - that's too easy:  I'm thinking maybe RAF or RAAF!

Regards,

Greg







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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on March 08, 2009, 10:35:50 am
Oh that just went to the top of my 'must have' list !

Gotta be Imperial Roman, or Vatican Air Guard

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on April 18, 2009, 07:25:14 am
Hasegawa's next new aircraft has been discovered! It's a Kawasaki T-4 egg plane of the Blue Impulse team! (http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=HAS60123)

Paul Harrison








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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on April 18, 2009, 03:45:58 pm
Hasegawa are releasing a kit of the YF-19 Fighter from the Macross Plus anime in 1/48th scale! Pre-order price from HLJ is £27.17 (no postage price is available yet). I saw this several days ago and thought the scale was a typo! Figured it was a repop of the 1/72nd kit but I found a picie link on Starship Modeler. (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGMC01)

Paul Harrison







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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on April 21, 2009, 12:02:22 pm
This is a sneak peek from HLJ of the Shizuoka show, there's not much that hasn't been seen already I'm afraid, the new Shoki in 1/32nd, US Navy E2C Hawkeye 2000 and a 1/48th F-16 of the Alaskan aggressors. My favourite is the already announced 1/48th YF-19 from the Macross Plus anime. (http://www.hlj.com/shs09rephsg.html)

Paul Harrison








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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on May 04, 2009, 05:33:40 am
Cybermodeler has done an in-box review of the 1/48th F-16I Sufa (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_09857.shtml), no Israeli specific weapons or targetting pods supplied.

Paul Harrison








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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on May 04, 2009, 07:17:28 am
Cybermodeler has done an in-box review of the 1/48th F-16I Sufa, no Israeli specific weapons or targetting pods supplied.

Which makes the Kinetic kit, which is loaded with load-out, pods and drop tanks, even more 'buyable' - I just made-up that word, hope you don't mind :blink:

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on May 05, 2009, 03:36:28 pm
Agree with you Ian, Kinetic has a hell of a lot of gear in it. Thinking of getting one just for all those weapons etc.  It's definitely more buyable!

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on May 06, 2009, 11:33:28 am
Me too. Together with RoG's Rafales and Typhoons, and Hasegawas Weaps Set 'E' you have just about the entire range of current A2A & A2G ordnance....... All you need to do is find a 1:48 F-16XL to hang it all on !

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on May 20, 2009, 11:37:49 pm
G'day Gang,

A sci-fi flavour for this Hasegawa review over on Cybermodeller.  It's the Pkf 85 Falke from the SF3D/MaschinenKrieger series.  At 20th scale, it's well over 'normal' 35th scale troopies, and I can only guess that the originators of the genre decided to go with the bigger scale for the detail.  Either which way, looks like a little corker.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_64001.shtml

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on May 21, 2009, 11:53:36 am
Ma.K kits are all in 1:20, as many of the models are of armoured suits rather than vehicles which would be rather small in 1:35.

The Falke looks excellent, though a little on the pricy side (but then it builds into a fairly large model).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: philp on May 21, 2009, 12:02:25 pm
I think they would look good in 1/35th or even 1/72nd.  Nitto did the Nutrocker in 1/76th that came with one of the power armors.
That thing just needs a better looking turret.  Don't know if Hasagawa is going to release that one or not.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on August 30, 2009, 04:44:57 pm
Hasegawa seem to have re-released their F-20 Tigershark. (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HAB03) There's also a combo version of two kits (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HA00967) due soon, although strangely, Hannants have it listed as being more expensive than buying two of the single kit version.
:huh:





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Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on August 31, 2009, 01:11:35 am
Their Tigershark is a super little kit, goes together like a dream.

As for the price increase being more than double, its a "special", which is Japanese for "charge far more than its worth because people will still pay for it".  Ask me how I know this :banghead:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on August 31, 2009, 02:54:48 am
I'm betting, at Telford or any sizeable model show, if you looked hard, you could find any number of F-20's for around a fiver from any number of traders or under-the-table boxes. And yes it is a sweet little model.

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on August 31, 2009, 03:12:31 am
I found that at Huddersfield at least, it wasn't that easy to find.  I was browsing Mr Models, when a guy mentioned he was looking for a F-20.  I'd seen one, but couldn't remember where.  I kept an eye out the rest of the day, & eventually spotted it & let the fella know, (turns out it was on Mr Models, about two foot from where we'd been standing :rolleyes:).  But they don't seem that prevallent.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Barry Krell on August 31, 2009, 07:19:23 am
I'm betting, at Telford or any sizeable model show, if you looked hard, you could find any number of F-20's for around a fiver from any number of traders or under-the-table boxes. And yes it is a sweet little model.

Ian

You'd lose your bet at Telford - no under the table sales thanks to the Elf n Safety Gestapo.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on September 12, 2009, 01:39:51 am
Several surprise new announcements by Hasegawa ahead of the Tokyo show

New tool 1/48 Raptor!
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGPT45

F-16F Block 60
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGPT44

And one for the shippies, a 1/350 Yahagi
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGZ26

The Raptor is a bit of surprise.  Given that the excellent Academy kit only came out this year, that there's only one user and one (boring) scheme, one wonders how many they expect to sell.  Revell I could've understood, given how over-inflated the prices are getting for eastern manufacturers are right now.  Who knows, maybe Revell will rebox it anyway.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 12, 2009, 09:06:25 am
The things is, the Academy Raptor isn't earning Hasegawa a single yen! ;) They'd be mad not to go for one if they think they can sell enough. And with the protectionist taxes, maybe the Hasegawa kit will be a good deal cheaper than the Academy kit for the Japanese?  :huh:

F-16F Block 60
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGPT44

Very interesting! Hope Hasegawa will do the same as Academy and come out with an injection-moulded spined/CFT'd/bumped 1/72 Viper.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on September 12, 2009, 10:34:39 am
The Raptor kit is also coming out as one of the Idolmaster series kits with an anime characters graphics all over it. Last post on this thread I think. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36766

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on September 15, 2009, 04:30:01 pm
This one caught my eye on the Hase list. Renzan with I-Go guided bomb and Shinden Kai Homeland Defense. http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG00987

A complete whif package for (currently) £28.60 plus P+P. Hopefully the economy might pick up a bit before December and lower the price!

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on October 03, 2009, 05:21:43 am
Saw this on Modeling Madness today. Dragon Models USA has posted the Hasegawa relealses from Nov 09 to February 2010. http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/special/20090923_HAS09P/
Like the 1/48th sea camo Mitsubishi F-1 and the Luftwaffe Renzan with Igo Bomb & Jet Shinden escort fighter.
Modeling Madness site. http://www.modelingmadness.com/
Dragon Models USA. http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/welcome.asp

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 03, 2009, 07:00:43 am
I love the fact that Hasegawa embrace the What If world..... The Renzan and Shinden just look so, 'comfortable' in Luft 46 clothes ! - Noticed that they're issuing the P-40M too, hopefully somebody will do 'Wairapa Wildcat' decals for it soon.

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Doc Yo on October 13, 2009, 12:23:52 pm
 heh. I was just about to post news of the Renzan re-issue, but Paul's beaten me to it. I wonder if the the
 Rita will get any 'upgrade' parts besides the flying bomb or no...it is a great kit, but certainly shows its age...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on October 14, 2009, 08:50:23 am
Hobby Link Japan has posted the colour schemes of the Renzan kit. http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG00987

PaulHarrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 15, 2009, 03:22:28 pm
modellversium (http://www.modellversium.de/) has provided an in-box review of the Hasegawa Aircraft Weapons set # VII (1/72nd scale kit # X72-12) (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=4505) for anyone interested in more modern aircraft weapons.
(http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/5/0/5/4505-deckel.jpg)

The set contains the following items:
3 x AN/AAQ-13 Navigation Pod + 2 Racks für F-15E
3 x AN/AAQ-14 Targeting Pod + je 2 Racks für F-14, F-15 E und F-16 C
3 x AGM-154 A JSOW
3 x GBU-31 JDAM
3 x AN/ALQ-184 ECM Pod
3 x LAU-138 Launcher for the F-14 Bombcat

Definitely not as much variety this time in comparison to the earlier weapons set kits and the excess of LANTIRN targeting pods means fewer weapons in the kit.  Definitely not a great value for your modeling dollar when compared to the earlier sets.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on October 16, 2009, 12:14:50 pm
Due to incredibly high prices and disputes with the importer, all 11 model shops in the Edmonton, Alberta area have stopped stocking Hasegawa.  Is this the sign of things to come?

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=194942&st=0
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: B777LR on October 16, 2009, 12:37:59 pm
Due to incredibly high prices and disputes with the importer, all 11 model shops in the Edmonton, Alberta area have stopped stocking Hasegawa.  Is this the sign of things to come?

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=194942&st=0

Hasegawa is hopelessly overpriced. It had to come. It's that adidas-effect. You buy a product because of who makes it, not for what you get...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 16, 2009, 05:15:08 pm
^ Yeah, Hasegawa is expensive, but not hopelessly so. I'd also argue that in Hasegawa's case you (mostly) actually get what you pay for and not just a "brand name product" (safe for the "special versions" that cost more and give you just a single marking option  :banghead:). What's making it expensive are the mark-ups the importers charge. HLJ seems to ask the recommended retail price Hasegawa give. Compare that to what you pay at your local LHS.

Hasegawa also seems to print their RRP on the boxes (at least if I understood one post on ARC right). Some give the RRP at the bottom right of the bar code on the (long) sides. As on the 1/72 AV-8B+ combo kit. There's 009936:003200, with 09936 being the kit reference number and 3200 the RRP in Japanese Yen. This kit would cost twice as much here in Germany thanks to the importer.
Others have the RRP on the short side. Again, there the kit reference number and then the RRP. #00862:3000 for the 1/72 RF-4E "501 SQ ACM Special". This one would cost about 50% more here in Germany.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Amphion on October 17, 2009, 01:06:27 pm
.....What's making it expensive are the mark-ups the importers charge. HLJ seems to ask the recommended retail price Hasegawa give. Compare that to what you pay at your local LHS.

Question is how much is the wholesale price (the price an importer pays)? Because here's how it works:

- You take the (wholesale-)price and ad shipping (i.e. all cost for freight, packing, insureance, etc. you pay to get the kits from producer to importer) to get a CIF-value.
- Ad appropriate customs fee (for plastic models I believe 4,7 %) to get a customs value (CIF-value * 1.047).
- Calculate appropriate VAT for your specific country (Germany 19%, UK 17,5 %, Sweden 25%). I.e. customs value * VAT = VAT-value.

So if a kit has CIF-value of 3000 yen, roughly 22 euro, you will pay 5,37 euros in importation fee (Germany). Ad to this advertising and other expenses (profit, how ever slim) + VAT between wholsale and consumer and you have soon doubled the price.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on October 17, 2009, 01:29:27 pm
modellversium (http://www.modellversium.de/) has provided an in-box review of the Hasegawa Aircraft Weapons set # VII (1/72nd scale kit # X72-12) (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=4505) for anyone interested in more modern aircraft weapons.
(http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/5/0/5/4505-deckel.jpg)

The set contains the following items:
3 x AN/AAQ-13 Navigation Pod + 2 Racks für F-15E
3 x AN/AAQ-14 Targeting Pod + je 2 Racks für F-14, F-15 E und F-16 C
3 x AGM-154 A JSOW
3 x GBU-31 JDAM
3 x AN/ALQ-184 ECM Pod
3 x LAU-138 Launcher for the F-14 Bombcat
efinitely not as much variety this time in comparison to the earlier weapons set kits and the excess of LANTIRN targeting pods means fewer weapons in the kit.  Definitely not a great value for your modeling dollar when compared to the earlier sets.
Another annoying thing about this set is that the weapons you do get are in three's, I mean, what kind of load out is that? so you have to buy 2 sets just to get a something like load out :angry:
Chris.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ed S on October 17, 2009, 05:56:09 pm
Another annoying thing about this set is that the weapons you do get are in three's, I mean, what kind of load out is that? so you have to buy 2 sets just to get a something like load out :angry:
Chris.

That may not be such a big deal, since it has become quite common for many of the current fighters to carry assymetric mixed loads of JDAM's and LGB's.  A lot of the pics of F-15's, F-16's and F-18's in Afghanistan show mixed loadouts.

Ed
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 17, 2009, 08:59:20 pm
Another annoying thing about this set is that the weapons you do get are in three's, I mean, what kind of load out is that? so you have to buy 2 sets just to get a something like load out :angry:

Yeah, another JSOW or JDAM wouldn't have hurt, would they?  :banghead: Then again, that would have complicated things. And the days of fighter-bombers carrying half a dozen or more of the same type of bomb are (mostly) over. Most multiples you see are the smaller ones (500lbs class).

Hope Hasegawa will come up with a couple more contemporary weapons sets (AIM-9X, AIM-120C, GBU-39 SDB and some more JDAM types), maybe including some other targeting pods (even if they're available in other kits or resin).

<...>
So if a kit has CIF-value of 3000 yen, roughly 22 euro, you will pay 5,37 euros in importation fee (Germany). Ad to this advertising and other expenses (profit, how ever slim) + VAT between wholsale and consumer and you have soon doubled the price.

Most interesting stuff! :thumbsup: Thanks for the insight! :cheers: There a few problems, though. First off, what HLJ charges (apparently the Hase RRP) must also get HLJ some profit, beside covering their advertising and storage costs. So I reckon the importer as well as HLJ pay about half of the RRP. Then, an importer imports large volumes of stuff, which means shipping is not that expensive (especially today, when every forwarding agent is happy to fill a container). Then there are no import taxes for plastic scale models (strangely enough, model railroads are another matter :unsure:) here in Germany.
Lastly, if I as a private person importing one or two kits at a time via (comparatively expensive) airmail can get the goods cheaper (despite paying VAT at customs) and faster, an importer pretty much forfeited his raison d'être. Why should I pay someone for doing a job I can do better? In the end I have to think about supporting the manufacturer and not some middle man.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Amphion on October 18, 2009, 03:53:06 am
I'm not one to let actual facts stand in the way of a good argument, so I'll not comment on your post as a whole (lets just say we're on the same plane as far as the money-grabbing middle-man is conserned).
One little pointer though, the 4,7% customs fee is a EU thing. Germany is part of EU....ergo for importation from Japan to Germany you'll pay a customs fee (for plastic models, but not for model railroad trains).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 18, 2009, 08:07:50 am
Ah, I see! Thanks for the heads-up! :cheers: Didn't cross my mind that there's a difference between importing stuff as a retailer and as a private person. I don't remember whether they ever asked me if I wanted to sell on the things.  If I got anything else wrong, feel free to point it out. :thumbsup:

It's not that I don't understand that the importer and retailers here also want to make their cut. I'm just afraid that the (unreasonably) high costs jeopardize not only the importers existence, but also that of the LHS and, above all, the manufacturer. It'd be interesting to see how the current situation in Canada will affect Hasegawa's sales. I figure some will go the internet route and get their Hasegawa stuff from abroad, but I guess Hasegawa will still lose a fairly large number of sales, such as impulse buyers, people not wanting to import stuff because it's a hassle.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Amphion on October 18, 2009, 11:46:50 am
We're a bit OT here so I'll end with this. The law is the same for a private person and a business, fees and VAT are due on all import. Only, a single package to a private person is likelly to "slip by" (it's the postal service or eqv. that declares the package for you) but the smallest of shipments to a commercial importer must be declared. Thats why if you buy a single model kit from Japan and it arrives by mail you might not pay anything  ;D Then again, don't be suprised the day that you'll have to.

As for importers (i.e. local wholesalers), LHS's etc. over-charging, it's the ol' system of supply and demand. If only one company imports your product of interest (and you don't know of the internet) they can charge you pretty much what they want. 'Till the consumer is fed up that is, I imagine that's what's happend in Canada.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 18, 2009, 01:45:28 pm
<...> The law is the same for a private person and a business, fees and VAT are due on all import. <...>

Ah, okay. Thought so. In that case there really is no import tax on plastic scale models. I've had to pick up a fair number of packages directly from the customs office and I never had to pay an import tax. VAT, yes (and 19% at that!  :banghead:), but an import tax, no. Actually, for my first purchase from HLJ I did have to pay an import tax because the customs officer mixed them with "toys", which indeed have an import tax of 4.7%. But once I found out the proper tax code (9503 00 30) that states that "plastic models for assembly, made to scale" have no import tax, I never had to pay a tax. The tax code for "other kits, plastic" is 9503 00 35 and they are taxed with 4.7%.
Apparently, the catchphrase is "to scale", which one may have to point out to a customs officer. If you don't know about it, it's very easy to miss. Also, HLJ constantly seems to give the wrong code on their packages.

And I made a mistake above. Model railroads also come under the TARIC-code 9503 00 30 and are tax-exempt. Sorry for that mistake.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 21, 2009, 06:45:19 am
modellversium (http://www.modellversium.de/) has provided an in-box review of the Hasegawa Aircraft Weapons set # VI (1/72nd scale kit # X72-11) (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=4504) for anyone interested in more modern aircraft weapons.
(http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/5/0/4/4504-deckel.jpg)

The set contains the following items:

6 x GBU-10 Paveway II
9 x GBU-12 Paveway II
3 x GBU-16 Paveway II You have the option to use the rocket motor parts to create 3 x AGM-123 Skipper II LGM (LASER Guided Missiles)
3 x GBU-24 Paveway III
3 x TER (Triple Ejector Racks)
6 x Bomb rack adapters for the F-14 Bomb Cat
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on November 08, 2009, 10:56:36 am
I got a Newsletter from Akatombo Works out of Japan today, the owner had just returned from the JMC Model Show and he posted a list of new kits he had seen:

Hasegawa
1/350 Imperial Japanese Navy Light Cruiser "Agano"
1/32  Messerschmitt Bf109F-4 Trop
1/72  Lockheed Martin F-16I "Israeli Air Force"
1/144 JAL EMBRAER ERJ 170
1/72  Junkers Ju188E German Bomber

1/20  Lotus79 F1 racing car
1/72  Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on November 08, 2009, 11:01:55 am
<...>
1/72  Lockheed Martin F-16I "Israeli Air Force"
<...>

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/jump4joy1.gif) Woohoo! (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/jump4joy1.gif)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on November 08, 2009, 04:52:51 pm
Great news, finally a 1/72nd F-16I out of the box! Like the ERJ170 in 1/144th too.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on December 03, 2009, 05:28:04 am
Pics are up on the Hasegawa website of their forthcoming 1/48 Raptor.  Lots of weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth on ARC over the highly pronounced surface detail that requires a belt sander.  Especially since it will cost almost as much as the real thing.

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/F22/F22.htm
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on December 03, 2009, 09:01:05 am
Damn, that's one lumpy aeroplane!

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: B777LR on December 03, 2009, 12:45:30 pm
Damn, that's one lumpy aeroplane!

Paul Harrison

Indeed. Beats the Matchbox grooves/trenches, and will probably sell for quite a bit too...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on December 05, 2009, 08:18:32 am
Absolutely NOT a fan of the F-22, but d*mn that kit just looks wrong  :blink:

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on December 05, 2009, 09:36:25 am
And yet it will still sell by the bucketload just because it's Hasegawa.... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on December 05, 2009, 09:57:17 am
It looks like the instructions were moulded into it in Braille so blind people can build them too :rolleyes:
Chris.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on December 05, 2009, 10:37:40 am
And yet it will still sell by the bucketload just because it's Hasegawa.... :rolleyes:

In Japan yes, elsewhere......not so sure.  Its gunna be expensive, cost more than the (already expensive) Academy F-22.  Its also a model of a plane that is used by one country, in one dreadfully dull scheme.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on December 08, 2009, 12:23:36 pm
Discovered something odd yesterday.....

Hasegawa's 1:32 P-40M has just been built/revewed by Tom Cleaver over on www.modelingmadness.com (http://www.modelingmadness.com), and he has thanked HLJ for the review sample.... I immediately checked Hannants to see if there was a date that they would be available here in the UK; (there isn't, it's still on the Future Release list).

Jumped onto HLJ and found that it was (already) out of stock and discontinued !!  :banghead: - What the h*ll is going on ? - Really hope that this is some sort of administrative foul-up, because I REALLY want this kit.

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on December 08, 2009, 10:47:18 pm
If it was one of their limited edition releases (and almost everything they do these days is), the entire production run may have sold out in Japan and none even reached the export market.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on December 08, 2009, 11:12:28 pm
Hasegawa website doesn't indicate its limited edition (unlike HLJ)  and Rainbow Ten has it in stock.

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/NEWDETAIL/0911/08199.html

http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/
0020103208199,HASEGAWA,4600YEN,08199 1/32 P-40M WARHAWK

Jon
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on December 10, 2009, 09:59:20 am
In-box review of the 1/48th F-16F today on Cybermodeler. http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_07244.shtml
Looks like a little flash is starting to appear on the parts. http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/images/has_07244_parts6.jpg

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitbasher on December 10, 2009, 02:30:57 pm
Modelzone Holborn (London) - Hasegawa Lancaster ASR.3 £55.99.  £56!!!!  Outrageous.   
That's 3 Revell Lancs plus almost £5 change!!!!!
Rant over.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Barry Krell on December 10, 2009, 03:49:46 pm
If it's any consolation, our Modelzone has the standard Hasegawa Lancaster for £39.95.

Look, if you don't like the prices, don't buy.  If the majority of modellers did this, prices would soon start to fall.  The retailers would have to shift the stock somehow and putting prices up in the midst of a recession is suicide.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on December 10, 2009, 05:28:21 pm
The ASR version is limited production and includes a new sprue for the larger tail and the lifeboat is resin.
The kit lists in Japan for 6,200 yen (around 42 GBP). SAL shipping is around 9 pounds, if not more, so
the overall price would be little different. The kit retails in the US for $105.

So you see its not simply a matter of the retailers "putting up the prices" and modelers not buying kits would
more likely drive local stores out of business rather than lead to lower prices. Most brick & mortar shops operate
on a very slim margin.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Barry Krell on December 10, 2009, 06:51:19 pm
The larger Lincoln tail is also in the Post War and Canadian Rescue boxings and Hasegawa did the tooling for the compete Merlin Lancaster family in injection, so using the inclusion of one small sprue as a justification for putting the price of one kit up is bobbins.  

The Canadian Rescue kit is/was about £33 and is exactly the same plastic as the ASR kit but includes some resin bits for the Canadian options.  Which if it were aftermarket would probably be a fiver, but an extra £23 for a single lifeboat?  Someone is having a laugh as there's about £2 worth of resin in it. 


Kitbasher is right, the price of this kit is a total rip off.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on December 12, 2009, 04:06:03 am
Just found this on a warship modeling forum :-
"According to current issue(Jan. 2010) of Model Art magazine, Hasegawa will release a 1/350 Agano next year. Frankly I am more excited about other planned new Hasegawa releases on the same page--1/72 F-35A, 1/72 Ju-188E-1, 1/72 Israeli F-16."

So finally a proper F-35A, which means were likely to see the B & C variants follow. Now why does the cynic in me see this fit being issued as seperate boxings for each user.... :wacko:

G
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on December 12, 2009, 04:51:28 am
Interesting.  And any bets on how much the Agano will cost?  Their recent 1/350 IJN ships have been mind-bogglingly expensive (I saw one "reduced show price" at Telford for £150!!), but the Akitsushima is just plain ridiculous.

£430 (Four Hundred and Thirty pounds) for a 1/350 ship.  Absolutely no justification for that whatsoever.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HALTD1
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: elmayerle on December 12, 2009, 05:49:44 am
So finally a proper F-35A, which means were likely to see the B & C variants follow. Now why does the cynic in me see this fit being issued as seperate boxings for each user.... :wacko:

It depends on just how they structure the kit.  There's certainly a lot of commonality between variants but there's also enough distinctive differences to make it interesting to design the moldings for all three current versions with a maximum of commonality while still reflecting the various differences.  The biggest challenge, of course, is going to be the F-35B with its unique aspects.  There's enough common between the A and C models that you could follow much the same breakdown as the real aircraft for minimal extra parts to build both versions.  Of course, to do the B-model, you'll need a different canopy as well as different wing, center fuselage, and aft fuselage sections.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Barry Krell on December 12, 2009, 07:09:30 am
So finally a proper F-35A, which means were likely to see the B & C variants follow. Now why does the cynic in me see this fit being issued as seperate boxings for each user.... :wacko:

Hardly a cynical comment, it's standard Hasegawa business practice.  If anyone is being cynical, it's the suits at Hasegawa...

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitbasher on December 12, 2009, 08:55:00 am
Look, if you don't like the prices, don't buy.

Don't worry, I don`t!

If the majority of modellers did this, prices would soon start to fall.

You'd like to think that would be the case.  My bet is that the best we could expect is for prices not to rise for a while.

The retailers would have to shift the stock somehow and putting prices up in the midst of a recession is suicide.

Very true.  Modelzone sales are always seem to focus on Revell kits for some reason, though.

And yes, Barry, you're right about the aftermarket value of the ASR.III lifeboat - a fiver would be fair.

Post rant rant now over!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on December 13, 2009, 08:12:11 am
Look, if you don't like the prices, don't buy.  If the majority of modellers did this, prices would soon start to fall.  The retailers would have to shift the stock somehow and putting prices up in the midst of a recession is suicide.

I've never been one to whinge, and I completely agree with Mr Krells' comment - On Friday, Dork and I went to Transport Models in Preston. They were just putting some new Hasegawa stock onto the shelves, amongst the boxes was a re-box of the 1:32 Bf109G-14...... £40.00 !

Two shelves up, was a Revell boxing of the Bf109K for £20(ish).... Own-throat-cutting stupidity, IMHO !!

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 13, 2009, 02:25:27 pm
It's all down to a five letter word G R E E D.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on December 13, 2009, 02:43:06 pm
Only Hasegawa stuff I've been buying lately are all off ebay for hardly anything in comparison. On kind of a nostagia kick at the moment, buying up stuff I did as a kid. Part of the stash is looking like a late 70's early 80's modelshop.  ;D

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Barry Krell on December 22, 2009, 01:06:41 pm
Modelzone price for the Ju 88A6 Special edition - £39.95.  Dambuster Lancaster - £44.95.  That's gone up £15 in 12 months.  In a recession?  Guess how many Lancasters will be staying on the shelves at that price?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: nev on January 28, 2010, 10:15:39 am
Hasegawa releases for 2010 announced.  The usual slew of reboxings....though the He111 zwilling may intrest some, as may the 1/32 Kittyhawk ;)

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2010PART1A.pdf
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2010PART1B.pdf
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 28, 2010, 10:52:31 am
And a 1/72 F-16I. :party: According to the symbols, it will be based on their usual Viper and will be a regular (as opposed to limited) item!

The Ju 188 could also be interesting.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on February 04, 2010, 02:58:38 pm
G'day Gang,

IPMS Deutschland have quite a number of photos of the Nurnberg Toy Fair.  Of particular interest is Hasegawa's 35th!! scale Nutrocker and other Maschienen Krieger kits.

http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2010/Bilder/Helms/album/slides/Nuernberg2010_VH_061.html
http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2010/Bilder/Eichendorff/album/slides/Hasegawa_01.html
http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2010/Bilder/Eichendorff/album/slides/Hasegawa_03.html
http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2010/Bilder/Eichendorff/album/slides/Hasegawa_04.html

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on February 06, 2010, 02:45:50 pm
Modellversium (http://www.modellversium.de/) has uploaded an in-box kit review of the latest Hasegawa yard dart.  This version is the F-16F (Block 60) Fighting Falcon (1/48th scale, kit number 07244) (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=4713) and it appears to have a few additional parts sprues.   

click on image or html text to see the review

(http://www.modellversium.de/kit/bilder/7/1/3/4713-tumb.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=4713)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: JJC on February 08, 2010, 12:26:10 pm
does anyone know if Hase still produce there 1/48 phantom FG.1 'Ark Royal'? just that it dosen't appear on many websites and not even hasegawas, i was gonna buy one PDQ from modelzone if it was discontinued
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: philp on February 08, 2010, 07:45:45 pm
G'day Gang,

IPMS Deutschland have quite a number of photos of the Nurnberg Toy Fair.  Of particular interest is Hasegawa's 35th!! scale Nutrocker.

Regards,

Mav

I also noticed this but would like to get the 76th scale version.  Also, is this thing just screaming for a real turret with a big gun or what?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on February 09, 2010, 04:19:52 am
does anyone know if Hase still produce there 1/48 phantom FG.1 'Ark Royal'? just that it dosen't appear on many websites and not even hasegawas, i was gonna buy one PDQ from modelzone if it was discontinued

Far as I can remember it was a limited issue last year, don't know how many "Limited" means to Hasegawa though! The RN Phantom kits usually sell out really quick, I did see some recently on Ebay and I'm pretty sure they went for less than list price. They were the latest issue from a shop seller BTW, not older kits.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on February 16, 2010, 01:49:50 am
G'day Gang,

Hasegawa have continued their limited What If experience with the issue of a combo kit subtitled "Mainland Defence".  The kit includes a Renzan heavy bomber and Shinden-kai (the jet variant).  Interestingly, both models have "Luftwaffe 1947" decal options.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10098742

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 16, 2010, 03:44:13 am
Interesting description of the Renzan there....

It carries a 'Homing Gun', which would seem to be a stand-off missile in the bomb bay!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on February 16, 2010, 05:35:37 am
Kit,

The missile in question is the I-Goh, which I believe is a glide bomb of similar concept to the Hs-293.  It might be the Kawasaki Ki-147 or the Mitsubishi Ki-148.  Info is a bit sketchy on the net.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on February 16, 2010, 05:52:34 am
I've been looking at that in MZ. I may still succumb  :banghead:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: TsrJoe on February 16, 2010, 08:59:52 am
kinda fancy this one myself ...

http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HA00987
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: lancer on February 16, 2010, 09:24:19 am
Oh yes!!! I WANT ONE or maybe two
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Barry Krell on February 16, 2010, 12:12:04 pm
Wait till you see the no doubt eye watering price for a 40 year old rivetty tooling and a few bits of resin.  If you get any change from 40 notes I'd be very surprised. 

Recent trip to Modelzone revealed Hasegawa kits are shooting up in price.  The STANDARD Lancaster is a crisp £45.  A special edition Ju 88 - containing the standard Ju 88A4, a new decal sheet, extra canopy and an etched brass fret is £40 - TWICE the price of a standard 88A4.  Robbing swines...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on February 17, 2010, 01:28:23 am
The Renzan/Shinden was in my MZ for (I think) £54. Which made me back off a little. Both have now gone. The JSDF Avenger "Special" was £49.99 for a 1/72 kit of a single engined aircraft....they've sold 5 !!!  :banghead:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HA00984 (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HA00984)

If you really want it then you will pay for it...apparently
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 17, 2010, 02:28:42 am
I don't know who's the more insanne, Hasegawa's accountants or the nutters who bought them!  :o
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on February 17, 2010, 04:04:47 am
:blink: Who the hell would pay £50 for a 1:72 Avenger?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: sideshowbob9 on February 17, 2010, 04:48:55 am
:blink: Who the hell would pay £50 for a 1:72 Avenger?


The mind boggles!  :blink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 17, 2010, 05:25:49 am
:blink: Who the hell would pay £50 for a 1:72 Avenger?

A nostalgic baby boomer with more money than sense..... :rolleyes:  If Hasegawa's accountants have identified that there are enough of them to pay the bills, then they're not insane at all. They're only insane if they think it'll go on forever.....
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on February 17, 2010, 05:42:40 am
:blink: Who the hell would pay £50 for a 1:72 Avenger?

A nostalgic baby boomer with more money than sense..... :rolleyes:  If Hasegawa's accountants have identified that there are enough of them to pay the bills, then they're not insane at all. They're only insane if they think it'll go on forever.....

Exactly Weaver. If they can sell them then they will continue to edge prices upwards. Not sure what the "extra's" are in the JSDF Avenger but I would of thought they are making a nice little sum to help an ailing Japanese ecconomy  :blink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on February 17, 2010, 10:40:02 am
I wanted the Renzan/I-Goh/Shinden set but the price is crazy, no way I'm paying that. I got my standard Renzan kit for £12.99 about a year ago from The Aviation Hobby Shop.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on February 17, 2010, 12:49:14 pm
:blink: Who the hell would pay £50 for a 1:72 Avenger?

A nostalgic baby boomer with more money than sense..... :rolleyes:  If Hasegawa's accountants have identified that there are enough of them to pay the bills, then they're not insane at all. They're only insane if they think it'll go on forever.....

Exactly Weaver. If they can sell them then they will continue to edge prices upwards. Not sure what the "extra's" are in the JSDF Avenger but I would of thought they are making a nice little sum to help an ailing Japanese ecconomy  :blink:

Hasegawa has a minuscule affect on the Japanese economy being a very small company (evidently somewhere around 50 people)
selling to a very small market, domestically and internationally.

The Renzan Set list price is 4600 yen at HLJ or about 32 GBP (currently 3680 yen/ 25.71 GBP at Hobby 1999), I suggest you ask
the British re-sellers why importing the kit adds 22 pounds to the list price, especially as SAL shipping should be around 5 pound.
The I-Go is injected BTW. The Kow Yokoyama box art is cool, I wonder how much that cost Hasegawa?
Hasegawa isn't controlling the UK price.

The very limited edition TBM-3S (which rapidly sold out in Japan BTW) listed at 5200 yen (Hobby 1999 sold it for 4160)
due to the resin conversion parts, including a new clear resin rear transparency. Hasegawa has to pay for the mastering
and casting of resin parts just like anybody else, so are you really surprised that they'd pass the cost along?
It's a business folks, and a very small one at that.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on February 17, 2010, 03:59:00 pm
Yeah, but £35 (HLJ's listed price for the TBM-3S) should get you a complete resin kit, not just a few extra conversion parts. It's just not a reasonable price for a single-engine prop-job in 1:72. The importers do extract the urine somewhat with their mark-ups, but the base prices are still very high. If Revell can make and market a Lancaster for £15, why does the Hasegawa one cost more than double that (~£35 on HLJ, £45+ in UK shops)? It's ridiculous. I suspect I could pick up the Academy Avenger, and a load of resin conversion parts to make the -3S, and not spend anywhere near that amount.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on February 17, 2010, 11:27:16 pm
Yeah, but £35 (HLJ's listed price for the TBM-3S) should get you a complete resin kit, not just a few extra conversion parts. It's just not a reasonable price for a single-engine prop-job in 1:72. The importers do extract the urine somewhat with their mark-ups, but the base prices are still very high. If Revell can make and market a Lancaster for £15, why does the Hasegawa one cost more than double that (~£35 on HLJ, £45+ in UK shops)? It's ridiculous. I suspect I could pick up the Academy Avenger, and a load of resin conversion parts to make the -3S, and not spend anywhere near that amount.

Gee, I don't know, perhaps because Hasegawa is a Japanese company and they have their stuff made in Japan, so they have to pay Japanese prices for everything? Perhaps because they're not low-balling it in Poland, China or South Korea like Revell and Academy? Ya think maybe that might be a part of the formula?

BTW Hasegawa's standard TBF/TBM-1C is slated for re-stock in March at 1500 yen, Oh the humanity and the price-gouging. 
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on February 18, 2010, 02:35:22 am
:blink: Who the hell would pay £50 for a 1:72 Avenger?

A nostalgic baby boomer with more money than sense..... :rolleyes:  If Hasegawa's accountants have identified that there are enough of them to pay the bills, then they're not insane at all. They're only insane if they think it'll go on forever.....

Exactly Weaver. If they can sell them then they will continue to edge prices upwards. Not sure what the "extra's" are in the JSDF Avenger but I would of thought they are making a nice little sum to help an ailing Japanese ecconomy  :blink:

Hasegawa has a minuscule affect on the Japanese economy being a very small company (evidently somewhere around 50 people)
selling to a very small market, domestically and internationally.

The Renzan Set list price is 4600 yen at HLJ or about 32 GBP (currently 3680 yen/ 25.71 GBP at Hobby 1999), I suggest you ask
the British re-sellers why importing the kit adds 22 pounds to the list price, especially as SAL shipping should be around 5 pound.
The I-Go is injected BTW. The Kow Yokoyama box art is cool, I wonder how much that cost Hasegawa?
Hasegawa isn't controlling the UK price.

The very limited edition TBM-3S (which rapidly sold out in Japan BTW) listed at 5200 yen (Hobby 1999 sold it for 4160)
due to the resin conversion parts, including a new clear resin rear transparency. Hasegawa has to pay for the mastering
and casting of resin parts just like anybody else, so are you really surprised that they'd pass the cost along?
It's a business folks, and a very small one at that.

I understand all of that Jon and I was being sarcastic with the "help an ailing Japanese ecconomy" quote. It would be nice to know the full details of how the UK retail price is arrived at. That way we would know who to moan at. Very difficult thing to find out though. I tried to work things like that out in a completely different sphere as part of my old job, and it's dammed near impossible.

I'm one of those who believe "if you want it, you will pay the price". I'm still dithering on the Renzan and if the Avenger fell withing my sphere of interest then I don't know how seriously I'd be interested, ut like most I do like the occaisional moan.  :banghead:

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Daryl J. on February 21, 2010, 10:31:49 pm
Vector is doing a new engine, cowling, and exhaust for the venerable F4B-4 in 1/32.   :wub: :wub: :wub:


Daryl J.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 24, 2010, 08:51:49 pm
CyberModeler (http://www.cybermodeler.com/) has uploaded an in-box review of the Hasegawa F-22 cRaptor (1/48th scale kit # PT45) (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_pt45.shtml)  for your viewing pleasure.  (click on image or the html to visit the review)
(http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/images/has_pt45_title.jpg) (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_pt45.shtml)
(image source: Michael Benolkin/CyberModeler (http://www.cybermodeler.com/))

I am a bit surprised that Hasegawa did not bother to include the fuel tanks, at least Academy provided these items in their own interpretation of the F-22. 
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jschmus on April 15, 2010, 01:39:37 pm
HLJ are showing preview images of various items to be shown off next month at the Shizuoka Hobby Show.  Among the new releases is an F-16I in 1/72:

http://www.hlj.com/product/hsge34
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on April 16, 2010, 02:56:42 am
HLJ are showing preview images of various items to be shown off next month at the Shizuoka Hobby Show.  Among the new releases is an F-16I in 1/72:

http://www.hlj.com/product/hsge34
I wonder who I can kidnap and ransom to get myself a couple of those ;D
I think my USMC air wing would like some of those  :wacko:
Chris.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Jschmus on June 16, 2010, 06:33:50 pm
Hasegawa have produced an eggplane rendition of the VF-1A/J Valkyrie from Macross:

http://www.hlj.com/product/hsg65789

(http://static.hlj.com/images/hsg/hsg65789.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: thedarkmaster on June 16, 2010, 11:19:52 pm


Quote
t would be nice to know the full details of how the UK retail price is arrived at. That way we would know who to moan at. Very difficult thing to find out though. I tried to work things like that out in a completely different sphere as part of my old job, and it's dammed near impossible.


both Hasagawa and tamiya are imported into the country by Hobbyco, whom also import Itallieri........can you spot the similarities in price increases ?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on November 26, 2010, 04:18:26 am
Just found this >>HERE<< (http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=220594&st=0&gopid=2098796&#entry2098796) on ARC:

New set of 'splodey bits in 1/48!

Including AIM-9X, AIM-120C, GBU-31(V)3, GBU-38, AN/AAQ-28, AN/AAQ-33, AN/ALQ-184, AN/ALQ-188, LAU-115C/A,...

Hope we'll see this in 1/72, too.  :thumbsup:

Ironically enough, I put down a suggestion for this type of set (including AIM-9X and 120C, Sniper, GBU-38) in the recent poll Hasegawa USA held to find out what modellers wanted. CLICKY! (http://www.hasegawausa.com/suggest-a-model.html) Also put in a suggestion for a Viggen family. Hopefully that will go through as well. :lol:

(http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/1101/X48-17.jpg)

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 26, 2010, 05:35:13 am
Ooh yes, that lot could seriously spoil some people's day!

Like you, I hope they downscale the set to 1/72 as well, I'd have a use for one or three of them for sure.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 17, 2011, 02:41:19 am
Hasegawa news for March - June of 2011!

CLICKY #1! (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2011PART1A.pdf)

CLICKY #2! (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2011PART1B.pdf)

Yay! Sea Flanker in 1/72!  :party: F-16E in 1/72!  :party: And a downscale of the weapon set above.
1/48 E/A-18G Growler and A-4N with the long tailpipe.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: anthonyp on January 24, 2011, 06:35:18 pm
I also see they're releasing a much-too-large HMS Vanguard BB in 1/450...  Can someone PLEASE make a plastic one in 1/700!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on January 25, 2011, 05:26:21 am
AFAIK, it's their old tooling anyway.  It's not new.

Doesn't matter what Hasegawa release in the UK, it's becoming pretty much unaffordable.  Their BOB combo for over £30 for a 40 year old Spitfire and a newer BF109 is nothing short of extortionate.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Deino on March 09, 2011, 04:41:49 am
Finally ... the Su-33 !!!!!    :o :rolleyes: :wub:

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/Su33/SU33-1.html


And now ... PLEASE ... just a standard Flanker as well as the Trainer, the MK, MKK, MKI ... and Su-34 in this quality !   :drink: :bow:

Deino
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 09, 2011, 05:09:33 am
And how many organs will you have to sell to be able to afford it?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on March 09, 2011, 05:48:06 am
The link quotes 4,800 Yen, which works out at about £35 at the moment. So I'd guess just under the £50 mark in UK shops. They've re-popped their Tomcat as well, which is now priced at £40. Bloody ridiculous. :( Though at least the Flanker comes with weapons, which is a slight improvement.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on March 09, 2011, 12:48:25 pm
Hannants says £44.99 but it could well go up before it's actually released the way things are going now.
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE35

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on March 09, 2011, 01:22:36 pm
They've re-popped their Tomcat as well, which is now priced at £40. Bloody ridiculous.

Tell me that isn't for the 1:72 kit  :o

Ian
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on March 09, 2011, 01:36:11 pm
Bl**dy H*ll that's outrageous, and IIRC, the Fujimi Tomcat is a far better kit - certainly doesn't have some of the 'fit issues' that the Hasegawa one has. Thanks for the link, Chris, not thinking 'bout buying one anytime soon, tho.

Ian - (shaking head in disbelief)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on March 09, 2011, 02:30:23 pm
They've re-popped their Tomcat as well, which is now priced at £40. Bloody ridiculous.

Tell me that isn't for the 1:72 kit  :o

Ian

If it is you would be a lot better off buying the Fujimi kit which is better by far and a lot cheaper. The Fujimi kit also comes with weapons and engines and still weighs in at less than £20...... http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FU280141 .

Hannants also have Hasegawa's standard production 1/72 F-14s for less than £20:
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE02
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE03

Buy a 'special release' and you'll pay a 'special' price.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on March 09, 2011, 02:53:02 pm
This is the one I'm talking about: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01908

Completely unjustifiable in my opinion.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 09, 2011, 02:55:30 pm
One or two cheapos from Hasegawa does not save them or their importers from justifiable accusations of profiteering.

Their recent release Ju 88G with the Berlin or Neptun radar is an eye watering £50. It isn't a brand new tooling, given that the 88G-1 and the moulds were done at least 5 years ago.  Two or three new sprues and that warrants a price hike of over 100%? Had away and balderdash!  

You ask any British modeller buying on the high street and they will tell you Hasegawa's prices are extortionate.  Again, I call for a boycott.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on March 09, 2011, 04:24:05 pm
Hannants also have Hasegawa's standard production 1/72 F-14s for less than £20:
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE02
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE03

WAIT!  :o Those are the old moulds with raised panel lines! Nowhere near as nice as the "newer" moulds!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 10, 2011, 01:10:25 am
And that's if Hasegawa don't bung their old crap in new boxes and charge top whack.  Their single seat fighters - Fw 190, Mustang, Zero etc - were about £9 a few years back so they rereleased their 1970 Spitfire Ia (long since superseded by the 1974 Airfix one) in a similar box and charged the same price as their newer Bf 109 etc.  All for a new decal sheet. 

That one release proved to me that they were a bunch of robbing turds and I've hated them with a passion ever since.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on March 25, 2011, 07:13:53 pm
Well people are obviously voting with their wallets, because Hannants have just put a load of Hase stuff into their special offers section at 30% off. Too much to list: go have a look.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 25, 2011, 07:26:38 pm
I have and this one caught my eye:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01902

Not particularly interestd in it - it's American and I have zero interest in US aircraft - it was the sale price that caught my attention and my wrath.  £30 for a 40 year old tooling?  Someone's having a giraffe!

People are seeing through the smoke and mirrors of Hasegawa. I hope they continue to vote with their wallets and prices may come down further.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 26, 2011, 12:11:06 am
Not particularly interestd in it - it's American and I have zero interest in US aircraft - it was the sale price that caught my attention and my wrath.  £30 for a 40 year old tooling?  Someone's having a giraffe!

My Frog branded one, which must be over 30 years old now, says £7.75 on the box lid! The only difference between the two is the decals, which must make them THE most expensive decals in history!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on March 26, 2011, 02:55:09 am
Must admit I don't look at the Hasegawa section in my local MZ anymore. They or the importers are really taking the proverbial on a lot of these old kits
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on March 26, 2011, 06:44:34 am
Not particularly interestd in it - it's American and I have zero interest in US aircraft - it was the sale price that caught my attention and my wrath.  £30 for a 40 year old tooling?  Someone's having a giraffe!

My Frog branded one, which must be over 30 years old now, says £7.75 on the box lid! The only difference between the two is the decals, which must make them THE most expensive decals in history!

I picked up a Revell one (ex FROG?) for £12.50 last year because the box was faded from it being in the window of an LHS for so long.... ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: McGreig on March 26, 2011, 06:50:06 pm
My Frog branded one, which must be over 30 years old now, says £7.75 on the box lid! The only difference between the two is the decals, which must make them THE most expensive decals in history!

Or perhaps not - if you assume that your kit was bought in 1975 and go to the Bank of England Inflation Calculator, you will find that the equivalent 2010 price should be £50.70 :wacko:

At approx £46 full price, Hasegawa appear to be underpricing - I think they should be told - - -
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 27, 2011, 01:03:15 am
Or perhaps not - if you assume that your kit was bought in 1975 and go to the Bank of England Inflation Calculator, you will find that the equivalent 2010 price should be £50.70 :wacko:

At approx £46 full price, Hasegawa appear to be underpricing - I think they should be told - - -

I don't think so. There has only been one set of moulds for this kit, Hasegawa/Frog/Revell Neptunes all came from the same moulds, which have already been paid for umteen times over. All Hase are forking out for now is the cost of the raw styrene and it hasn't gone up THAT much. Just look at comparitive prices for Airfix Spitfires then and now.......
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on March 27, 2011, 02:25:14 am
At approx £46 full price, Hasegawa appear to be underpricing - I think they should be told - - -

Now thats just plain silly  ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on April 12, 2011, 11:10:45 am
Cybermodeler's look in the Su33 box. http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/has/kit_has_01565.shtml

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 12, 2011, 11:31:30 am
Expect to pay £50 in the UK.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Radish on April 12, 2011, 12:15:41 pm
Hasegawa prices are a total disgrace....I know a number of traders who refuse to stock them now.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on April 12, 2011, 02:42:33 pm
I intend to buy one, and just one then use it as a guide for building other aircraft from the same family and I certainly intend to pay less the the fifty notes that Lee is suggesting the price will be.

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 12, 2011, 02:49:11 pm
The problem isn't Hasegawa - Japanese kits are quite reasonably priced if you live in Japan as I had some brought back from there some years back and they were at least a third or more off the UK price.  It's the importers who are lining their pockets at our expense.  

Admittedly currency fluctuations and duty play a part but not to the tune of, in some cases, a 100% increase?  The Hasegawa Ju 88G was £22 in 2007 it's now £50!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 12, 2011, 02:54:09 pm
The price from a reputed mail order house.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE35

I wasn't that far out.  
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: rickshaw on April 12, 2011, 05:12:09 pm
The price from a reputed mail order house.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE35

I wasn't that far out.  

"Reputed" or do you mean "reputable"?  ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on April 12, 2011, 05:13:12 pm
Just had a look on Lucky model to see if they have it in yet, and to see how much they were doing the SU-33 for. It isn't in their new release page as yet, but I dare say it will be more than pocket change less than what Hannants are hoping to sell it for.
Chris.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 12, 2011, 07:22:32 pm
^ You can get the Idolmaster version from Hobby Link Japan shipped to the UK for just a little over 36 GBP. CLICKY! (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGSP290) The regular boxing should be a little cheaper, if earlier releases of Idolmaster boxings are anything to go by.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Rolead on April 13, 2011, 05:13:57 am
In fact get the this boxing http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGE35?r=spvehq89 (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGE35?r=spvehq89) and its even cheaper ! Just add a £10 for postage and hope the customs people do not get it.

Robert
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 13, 2011, 05:34:30 am
The price from a reputed mail order house.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE35

I wasn't that far out.  

"Reputed" or do you mean "reputable"?  ;)

I could clarify that but a court order says that I mustn't.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Supertom on April 13, 2011, 06:04:07 am
I would agree with The Wooksta(!) that currency fluctuations and duties have something to do with these prices, and from what I hear oil has something to do with it (though I'm not sure to what extent) in the raw materials department.  What's really killing us consumers are the distributors.  I've talked to several LHS operators and they all say that it's the local distributors that are killing them - if you compare prices closer to the source, eg Lucky Hobby in Hong Kong and HLJ/Rainbow10 in Japan, you'll notice a significant price difference.  Of course shipping is more expensive which is why it pays to order larger quantities, but I've found that I've managed to pull off $100 purchases for what would retail in the US for well over $200.

That said I've been looking forward to this kit and I'll probably pick one up as soon as I can find one for a reasonable price.  I'll probably wait until the one in regular markings since I like box art as well.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 13, 2011, 08:11:27 am
HLJ has some news ahead of the Shizuoka Hobby Show. LINK (https://freemailng0102.web.de/jump.htm?goto=http%3A%2F%2Fhlj.us1.list-manage1.com%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3Df60cb1eee37a8df2b5c8e588c%26id%3D17fde0ddc1%26e%3D9db95ddb18)
Lokks like Hasegawa will release a 1/72 F-15I Ra'am! LINK (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG01950) :party: Hoping for a set-up like their F-16E/F/I Vipers, with some new sprues with bits to spruce up the old kits.

<...> and from what I hear oil has something to do with it (though I'm not sure to what extent) in the raw materials department.  <...>

The oil price and its effect on raw plastic has nothing to do with it at all. The amount of plastic used in a kit costs cents.

In fact get the this boxing http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGE35?r=spvehq89 (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGE35?r=spvehq89) and its even cheaper ! Just add a £10 for postage and hope the customs people do not get it.

Yeah, just found that, too. (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/doh.gif) Think it wasn't up when I typed my response. Looks like the thing about Idolmaster boxings being more expensive holds true.
Around 29GBP for a new-tool Sea Flanker with a comprehensive weapons fit - not cheap, but definitely not too expensive either. Especially when you consider the alternatives (not that there are that many).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Supertom on April 13, 2011, 10:18:15 am
HLJ has some news ahead of the Shizuoka Hobby Show. LINK (https://freemailng0102.web.de/jump.htm?goto=http%3A%2F%2Fhlj.us1.list-manage1.com%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3Df60cb1eee37a8df2b5c8e588c%26id%3D17fde0ddc1%26e%3D9db95ddb18)
Lokks like Hasegawa will release a 1/72 F-15I Ra'am! LINK (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG01950) :party: Hoping for a set-up like their F-16E/F/I Vipers, with some new sprues with bits to spruce up the old kits.

I'm still waiting on a GE-110-equipped F-15K/S in 1/72 so I can do Korean and Singaporean F-15s.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on April 13, 2011, 11:11:24 am
Import duties are not an issue in the US as model kits are classed with toys and thus exempt.

http://www.usitc.gov/publications/docs/tata/hts/bychapter/1100C95.pdf

The relevant section:
9503.00.00    Tricycles, scooters, pedal cars and similar wheeled  toys;
                      dolls’ carriages; dolls, other toys; reduced-scale (“scale”)
                      models and similar recreational models, working or not;

                      puzzles of all kinds; parts and accessories thereof ................. Free
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Amphion on April 13, 2011, 04:47:14 pm
Import duties are not an issue in the US as model kits are classed with toys and thus exempt.

http://www.usitc.gov/publications/docs/tata/hts/bychapter/1100C95.pdf

The relevant section:
9503.00.00    Tricycles, scooters, pedal cars and similar wheeled  toys;
                      dolls’ carriages; dolls, other toys; reduced-scale (“scale”)
                      models and similar recreational models, working or not;

                      puzzles of all kinds; parts and accessories thereof ................. Free

Same applies to the EU.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 13, 2011, 04:49:28 pm
Same applies to the EU.

If that's true Her Majesty's Customs and Excise owe me a large fortune in mis-paid duties, not to mention compound interest on all the money they've had off me over the last 45 odd years! AND I want the compound interest in the VAT as well!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on April 14, 2011, 07:29:25 am
Import duties are not an issue in the US as model kits are classed with toys and thus exempt.

http://www.usitc.gov/publications/docs/tata/hts/bychapter/1100C95.pdf

The relevant section:
9503.00.00    Tricycles, scooters, pedal cars and similar wheeled  toys;
                      dolls’ carriages; dolls, other toys; reduced-scale (“scale”)
                      models and similar recreational models, working or not;

                      puzzles of all kinds; parts and accessories thereof ................. Free

Same applies to the EU.

Not sure that imports of models from outside the EU/EFTA are duty free, but must admit I'm not in touch with current HM Customs regs. If it is true then like Kit I want my money back.

As an example Wingnut models attract a rather large charge from HMC, but a chunk of that is VAT
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 14, 2011, 12:25:43 pm
Perhaps this could be the subject of a thread split, as it bears discussion?

Surely toys, kits and model railroad stuff WAS subject to duty etc. when inbound to the USA and the UK around 10 yerars ago.

I used to attend model railroad conventions in the Twin Cities area back then and to ensure my stuff was not charged duty I had to make sure I had six lots of paperwork, quoting original place of manufacture, originl place of purchase, cost at the time, value on import etc. Thse all had to be stamped, bouth outbound from UK and USA and inbound to both. Any infringement of that and they'd charge me. They never had to but the chance was there if I lost the paperwork.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Amphion on April 15, 2011, 09:19:55 am
The same duties apply for all EU countries when importing from "third countries", in this case none. But you'll still be charged VAT I reckon.
Then there's every Harry, Dick 'n Tom acting as middle-man in the shipping 'n handling-process that will charge you money and call it duties or customs fees because that's easier to "swallow".
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 15, 2011, 01:46:56 pm
The same duties apply for all EU countries when importing from "third countries", in this case none. But you'll still be charged VAT I reckon.

I beg to differ.

I've just spent some time on the mind-bogglingly complex HMC&R site to try and sort this out, and it would seem that kits of plastic origin from Japan are charged at 4.7% coming into the EU with the various VAT rates added. The Tarriff code involved is  9503 00 35 which applies to non-railway model construction kits. (Why model railways should be singled out for special treatment I don't know....) Some other 'third countries' are indeed charged at 0.0% but most of the stuff we're talking about here come from Japan.

Here's a link to the respective page

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20110415&Area=JP&Taric=9503&LangDescr=en (http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20110415&Area=JP&Taric=9503&LangDescr=en)
 
Go down to 9503 00 35 next to where it says 'of plastics' and click on the code itself and a table opens up below it mentioning the 4.7%.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Martin H on April 15, 2011, 01:55:03 pm
At my local model club we have a tame VAT inspector from HMRC. And he says even they struggle to understand the rules for the whole damn thing as they are always changing.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 15, 2011, 02:29:09 pm
Isn't that the whole point?  These fascists always find a way to screw the working man.

Sorry, ladies and gentlemen. Little bit of politics there!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on April 15, 2011, 04:33:58 pm
The same duties apply for all EU countries when importing from "third countries", in this case none. But you'll still be charged VAT I reckon.

I beg to differ.

I've just spent some time on the mind-bogglingly complex HMC&R site to try and sort this out, and it would seem that kits of plastic origin from Japan are charged at 4.7% coming into the EU with the various VAT rates added. The Tarriff code involved is  9503 00 35 which applies to non-railway model construction kits. (Why model railways should be singled out for special treatment I don't know....) Some other 'third countries' are indeed charged at 0.0% but most of the stuff we're talking about here come from Japan.

Here's a link to the respective page

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20110415&Area=JP&Taric=9503&LangDescr=en (http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20110415&Area=JP&Taric=9503&LangDescr=en)
 
Go down to 9503 00 35 next to where it says 'of plastics' and click on the code itself and a table opens up below it mentioning the 4.7%.

Look again, it appears that model kits are covered under 95030030, not 95030035:
   
9503 00 30 - Electric trains, including tracks, signals and other accessories therefor; reduced-size (scale) model assembly kits
ERGA OMNES (ERGA OMNES - CEE)
Measures for import:    
Third country duty (01-01-2007 - ) :     0 %    
   R1549/06
All third countries (ALLTC)
Measures for export:    
Export authorization (prior surveillance) (01-01-2007 - )       (TM571)
   R1210/03
   
Additional Code 4049:     Toys and games, between 50 and 100 years old, other than those covered by the additional codes 4008, 4010, 4011, 4013, 4023, 4040 - 4048
   
Measures for export:    
Export authorization (prior surveillance) (01-01-2007 - )       
   R1210/03
   
Additional Code 4099:     Other than those mentioned in Regulation (EC) no 1210/2003 (OJ L 169): no restrictions
   
Measures for export:    
Export control on cultural goods (02-03-2009 - )       (CD483) (CG024)
   R0116/09
   [Show conditions]    

   
   
-     Other construction sets and constructional toys
9503 00 35     
-  -     Of plastics
ERGA OMNES (ERGA OMNES - CEE)
Measures for import:    
Third country duty (01-01-2007 - ) :     4.70 %    
   R1549/06
All third countries (ALLTC)
Measures for export:    
Export authorization (prior surveillance) (01-01-2007 - )       (TM571)
   R1210/03
   
Additional Code 4049:     Toys and games, between 50 and 100 years old, other than those covered by the additional codes 4008, 4010, 4011, 4013, 4023, 4040 - 4048
   
Measures for export:    
Export authorization (prior surveillance) (01-01-2007 - )       
   R1210/03
   
Additional Code 4099:     Other than those mentioned in Regulation (EC) no 1210/2003 (OJ L 169): no restrictions
   
Measures for export:    
Export control on cultural goods (02-03-2009 - )       (CD483) (CG024)
   R0116/09
   [Show conditions]

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 15, 2011, 04:45:42 pm
^ Yeah, what Jon said! :thumbsup:

"Construction sets" can mean a lot (anything from LEGO to Meccano), but "reduced-size (scale) model assembly kits" is fairly specific. At least that's the my argument when one of the customs officials tries to file kits under construction sets. So far they all agreed (for whatever that#s worth :lol:).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: McGreig on April 15, 2011, 05:39:26 pm
(I agree with Kit, that it would be good if this could be split off into a separate thread)

Customs Duty and VAT are two separate issues. Duty may be negligible, but VAT and handling fees are not.

The basic rule on the taxation of imports into the UK is simple - most goods arriving in the UK from outside the European Union are liable to Customs Duty and Import VAT. This applies whether the goods are purchased or gifts, new or used, for private use or intended for resale.

However, the legislation contains some exemption limits:

Gifts – No VAT if £40 or less and no Duty if £135 or less. Also, Duty is waived if the amount calculated is less than £9.00

Commercial Items (Items that you've purchased) – No VAT if £18 or less. Customs Duty is waived if the amount calculated is less than £9.00.

Current rate of VAT is 20%. Customs Duty is nil on plastic scale model kits and 4.7% on, say, diecasts, for items imported from Japan, China and the USA. (The value of goods for import VAT is based on the basic value of the goods, plus postage, packing and insurance, plus any Customs Duty charged. Customs Duty is charged on the price paid for the goods including any local sales taxes plus postage, packing and insurance costs.)

A couple of other points:

Charges are calculated by UK Border Agency (UKBA) staff at the postal depots where the packages are received.

If customs charges are payable upon importation, Royal Mail charge a handling fee to cover the costs for carrying out customs procedures, paying any customs duties or VAT due and collecting it from you. HMRC's website is at pains to point out that, as these fees are completely separate from any customs charges, any queries about them should be raised with Royal Mail or Parcelforce Worldwide as appropriate.


Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on April 16, 2011, 03:19:15 am
Ah the joys of the Combined Nomencular - spent many a happy hour going through chapters 70 to 75  :banghead:

(I agree with Kit, that it would be good if this could be split off into a separate thread)


I'm on my travels at the moment once back at base camp, not until after Easter, I'll split this if no one else has

Chris

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on April 16, 2011, 07:28:54 am
Probably old news to most but Hasegawa are doing a new tool J2M3 Raiden in 1/32nd scale. http://www.hlj.com/product/hsgst32?utm_medium=itemblock&utm_campaign=TOP_page&utm_content=ibhsgst32.png

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on April 28, 2011, 06:40:36 pm
Normally I don't get too excited about Hasegawa releases, but a nice 188 and a speculative He-111Z-2 in 72nd get the juices flowing somewhat.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/news/hasegawa.shtml

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on April 29, 2011, 04:54:02 am
Hasegawa have re-issued their 1/450 scale HMS Vanguard

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10142337 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10142337)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitbasher on May 06, 2011, 12:00:36 pm
This week's Hot News from Hannants:

Hasegawa

Aircraft kits (injection)
HA01920 1:72 Focke Wulf Fw 190D-9 COMBO (Two kits in the box)  £38.49
HA01927 1:72 Spitfire Mk.VIII "Against Japan Combo" (Two kits in the box)  £38.49
HA01931 1:72 Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden (JACK) TYPE 21 "302ND Flying Group Combo" (Two kits in the box)  £41.99 

and funniest of all:
HA01932 1:72 Junkers Ju 88A-14 "Geismann"  £46.99 

Hasegawa pricing department is clearly on drugs!  (yes, I know, oil prices, exchange rates, etc). 
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on May 06, 2011, 12:03:00 pm
This week's Hot News from Hannants:

Hasegawa

Aircraft kits (injection)
HA01920 1:72 Focke Wulf Fw 190D-9 COMBO (Two kits in the box)  £38.49
HA01927 1:72 Spitfire Mk.VIII "Against Japan Combo" (Two kits in the box)  £38.49
HA01931 1:72 Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden (JACK) TYPE 21 "302ND Flying Group Combo" (Two kits in the box)  £41.99 

and funniest of all:
HA01932 1:72 Junkers Ju 88A-14 "Geismann"  £46.99 

Hasegawa pricing department is clearly on drugs!  (yes, I know, oil prices, exchange rates, etc). 
 ;D ;D

I could buy three Tamiya Doras for the price of that combo and still have change.  How many Airfix Spitfire IXs could you buy for the price of the Spitfire combo? 

BOYCOTT THESE MONEY GRABBING PARASITES!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitbasher on May 06, 2011, 12:10:44 pm
I could buy three Tamiya Doras for the price of that combo and still have change.  How many Airfix Spitfire IXs could you buy for the price of the Spitfire combo? 

Five and a half Airfix Doras (better than the Hase one, in many respects on a par with the Tamiya one - definitely cheaper!), ditto Airfix Spits.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on May 06, 2011, 03:06:12 pm

Hasegawa Hannants pricing department is clearly on drugs!   
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: thedarkmaster on May 06, 2011, 03:13:57 pm



Hasegawa prices in the UK are set by a company called hobbyco they are the importers....they also import italieri....see the similarity, and again Tamiya are theirs .........
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on May 06, 2011, 03:24:02 pm
There are lots of words for these people and none of them are pleasant.  My particular favourite is an Anglo-Saxon word that's the oldest one still in use in the English language.  However, using it would get me banned.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on May 06, 2011, 03:34:20 pm
Amerang is shown as the UK importer.

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/DISTRIBUTORS/UK.htm
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on May 16, 2011, 07:44:31 pm
Here's something in Hasegawa's 'Maschinenkrieger' line.  Altho there was a 72nd scale Nutcracker released back in the day, this is a new one and looks like it includes an AFS as well like its smaller predecessor.  Should prove a big kit as the 72nd scale version was large itself.

http://ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/Hasegawa/Has_MaK_Nutcracker/Has_PKH103_Nutcracker.html

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 03, 2011, 05:57:21 pm
Along with more Maschinenkrieger kits to come, Hase are releasing another weapons set with, amongst other stores, Sniper & Lightening Pods.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/news/hasegawa.shtml

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on June 12, 2011, 01:31:00 am
Not sure how long it's been out, but Hannants now have Weapons Set VIII in. AIM-120Cs, AIM-9Xs and the latest jamming pods:

(http://www.hannants.co.uk/images/full/HAX7213.jpg)

(http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/11.3/images/X72-13builtup.jpg)
(2nd pic from Hasegawa 'cos it's more informative)

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAX7213


Also, seeing as how popular float planes are here, check this out: two Rufes (floatplane Zeros) in a box for £35 (not exactly a bargain but not too terrible by current standards either):

(http://www.hannants.co.uk/images/full/HA01936.jpg)

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01936


KI-49:

(http://www.hannants.co.uk/images/full/HA01937.jpg)

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01937


"1st Production" YS-11 in 1/144th. With the Dart(?) engines, it could easily be passed off as, or contribute to,  some British project. Not cheap at £25 but then this is Planet Hasegawa... :rolleyes:

(http://www.hannants.co.uk/images/full/HA10678.jpg)

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA10678
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on June 13, 2011, 10:13:04 am

"1st Production" YS-11 in 1/144th. With the Dart(?) engines, it could easily be passed off as, or contribute to,  some British project. Not cheap at £25 but then this is Planet Hasegawa... :rolleyes:


More like Planet Hannants  ;) :
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG10678?r=slw409ip
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on June 13, 2011, 12:35:56 pm
You can still find the 72nd Bandai kit for those prices.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 13, 2011, 02:07:56 pm
Yes, the YS-11 did use Darts, and the whole thing looks a close cousin to an Avro 748 stretched a tad. One of my Airliner Sig buddies converted a YS-11 to a 748, he figured it was easier than building the Welsh Models vacform.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on June 13, 2011, 06:51:28 pm

"1st Production" YS-11 in 1/144th. With the Dart(?) engines, it could easily be passed off as, or contribute to,  some British project. Not cheap at £25 but then this is Planet Hasegawa... :rolleyes:


More like Planet Hannants  ;) :
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG10678?r=slw409ip


Oh there are cheaper retailers in the UK too, it's just that they don't send out a nice weekly newsletter..... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 28, 2011, 06:53:49 pm
Hasegawa's US Weapons set No 8 is up for review in 72nd.

Just the thing to populate those bare bones kits of theirs  :wacko:

http://ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/Hasegawa/Hasegawa_Aircraft_Weapons_VIII/Has_Aircraft_Weapons_VIII.html

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on June 29, 2011, 02:42:19 am
It's bit light on dangly bits itself, only four types.  I've noticed that on recent Hase Weapons sets, they include the pylons to bump up the list a bit.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 29, 2011, 02:52:25 am
Perhaps they're going 'bare bones' with their weapons sets as well?? :banghead:

Gotta love commerce.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on June 29, 2011, 04:17:41 am
It's bit light on dangly bits itself, only four types.  I've noticed that on recent Hase Weapons sets, they include the pylons to bump up the list a bit.

Interesting observation regarding the number of types. Because in case of the AAM set, I actually thought it was great they give you that many AIM-120Cs. Twelve AMRAAMs will go along way equipping many models. I think that's a lot better than the earlier set that gave you just six - forcing you to buy two sets, resulting in loads of left-overs (CBU-87, AGM-84E, AGM-119...). Or take Skunkmodels' 1/72 Israeli weapons set. I'd rather have had six or eight Python 4s and only two each Rafael SPICE and AN/AXQ-14 instead of four of each.
Would you prefer incorrect pylons? :wacko:

I just think it's sad Hasegawa went for a solid grey plastic Sniper XR in the Aircraft Weapons IX set. That one could've used a clear part to look, well, the part.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on June 29, 2011, 04:52:51 am
I have a different approach, I don't tend to build a lot of the same type, so I prefer a wider range of ordnance.  Granted, the wider the range, the less you get of a given type but this increases the appeal for me.

You also get four sprues in the early sets (I-IV) but only three in the later sets & pay more.  As for the pylons, if they're specific to a type, you can usually find them in a kit, just not Hasegawa ones.  And since I'm whiffing, it doesn't worry me!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 29, 2011, 05:06:21 am
For myself, I prefer variety rather than numbers.  I tend to 'collect' ordnance, no just for hanging it off kits, so choice is good whilst quantity is bad.  I'd actually love one-off type weapons and the like, rather than 50 AMRAAMS or AIM-9s.  I also agree about the pylons.  Unless they're specific for a weapon or store (like the LANTIRN's etc) or something like a MER or TER, why put them in, given that the same pylon is most likely in the kit.  That is, of course, unless Hasegawa has intentions of not supplying pylons next (which wouldn't surprise me!).

Either way, I'd prefer accurate weapons, rather than vauge shapes that have been the norm for many kits (including Hasegawa).

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on June 29, 2011, 12:35:55 pm
I'm also for varied loads. But even with the most varied ground-pounding load-outs, a couple of AAMs (usually AIM-120s) are usually in the mix. That's why I, for one, like the twelve AMRAAMs.

The Hasegawa kits have pylons. Just in some cases, those supplied with the kits are kinda outdated. Take their 1/72 F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 A-D (which these weapon sets are mainly aimed at), for example. Those kits are more than twenty years old. Of course they don't have AMRAAM or Litening pylons. Newer pylons have been fielded in the meantime and Hasegawa's weapons sets reflect that.
Yes, you could argue that since we're whiffing, what does it matter? You could just as well argue that if you stick on accurate weapons, you might also want to have accurate pylons. And in the end, you can't really blame Hasegawa for catering to the "standard" modeller, and not just us few whiffers.

Yes, the newer sets are a tad more expensive than the older ones (bear in mind that the older sets are close to thirty years old!), but what, realistically, are your options? Resin? Scratch-building? Robbing another kit?
The Aircraft Weapons VIII set has three AN/ALQ-188 threat simulator/jamming pods - just one of those by Wolfpack Design costs more than Hasegawa's set of three (plus AAMs, pylons,...).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 29, 2011, 04:19:49 pm
Quite valid points Moritz, but it does bring up the spectre of Hasegawa re-releasing ancient kits as allegedly 'new' with a decal update only.  Their legacy Hornets for instance are deplorable, but are still trotted out on a regular basis.  If they were that keen, one might suggest they'd toss in a sprue of valid pylons for specific 'standard' weapons like AMRAAM.  But, of course, if they did that, the kit would be 'super limited edition' and double the already over-inflated price.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on June 30, 2011, 04:36:49 am
And in the end, you can't really blame Hasegawa for catering to the "standard" modeller, and not just us few whiffers.

Yes, that's more than fair enough.  We do our own thing & we're a realtively small bunch, in general I think the industry has done well in realeasing a handful of what-if kits & obscure types in mainstream plastic.

I must admit my attention to detail is quite lacking compared to most of the modelling community.  I probably wouldn't be able to tell if a pylon was inaccurate unless it was glaringly different!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Howard of Effingham on June 30, 2011, 05:35:27 am
whilst we are on the subject of hase' 1/72 weapons sets.....

the ALQ-184 available in the latest set was also available in a previous one. are there two different lengths for this pod?

i was delighted to see the ALQ-188 pod included, but didn't realise the price of an aftermarket resin one! ouch!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: JayBee on June 30, 2011, 07:12:35 am
Yes there are two different lengths for the ALQ-184. Short and long are the official designations.
The first Hasegawa release was the short pod.

Jim
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on June 30, 2011, 07:56:01 am
Quite valid points Moritz, but it does bring up the spectre of Hasegawa re-releasing ancient kits as allegedly 'new' with a decal update only.  Their legacy Hornets for instance are deplorable, but are still trotted out on a regular basis. <...>

The thing about the decal update is that it IS a decal update. It isn't meant to be anything else but a decal update.
While it may not matter a lot to whiffers, to real world builders they're sometimes a godsend (especially in 1/72). The countless re-releases dramatically increase the range of markings available to modellers. The aftermarket can't (or at least won't) release every scheme for every squadron in use (again: especially so in 1/72).
Revell's 1/72 Super Hornet has a high-vis VFA-137 Kestrels and a low-viz VFA-105 Gunslingers option. That's it. No further options from them. Hasegawa has most Super Hornet squadrons covered, even oddballs like the VX-31 Dust Devils boss bird.
I've sold off most of my Hasegawa Legacy Hornets (replaced with Academy Hornets), but kept a couple just for the decals. Academy's F/A-18C only has one Marine Air and two Navy options. I don't intend to build any of the three versions included, so for decals, it's either aftermarket or Hasegawa.
The same goes for their other modern jets (well, any of their decal re-releases). Some types or air forces just don't garner enough interest from the aftermarket guys. Hasegawa's re-releases will be your only option.
Take their JASDF re-releases. If you're not into JASDF stuff you'll say, meh, just another "one option only" rip-off. If you do like JASDF schemes, you'll pre-order them once they're announced.

<...> I probably wouldn't be able to tell if a pylon was inaccurate unless it was glaringly different!

In most cases and right off the bat, me neither.  ;)
In some cases they are needed for lack of alternative (F-16 chin pylons, for example) and in case of the LAU-127s in the recent set, they're also needed to make the dual launchers.

<...> the ALQ-184 available in the latest set was also available in a previous one. are there two different lengths for this pod? <...>

Yes, there are.  :thumbsup: Don't know any specifics, but you'll often see these referenced as "short" or "long" ALQ-184s. I reckon it has to do with capability upgrades, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 30, 2011, 05:34:52 pm
Moritz, I disagree that Hasegawa markets them as 'decal updates' only.  Every advertisement I've seen of a rewarmed Hornet/Falcon, etc has been on of 'New', even so far as being added in 'upcoming' lists.  Whether that is a good thing or not, is an individual opinion, but I'd be surprised if aftermarket companies weren't doing many of the same and with a higher level of detail and with greater decalling information to boot.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on June 30, 2011, 07:31:42 pm
Well, Hasegawa's New Item Previews (SAMPLE (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2011PART1B.pdf)) clearly label "decal only" new releases with a DC for "only decal changed new item". And why shouldn't they list them as new items or be included in upcoming lists? They are, after all, new versions. And some buyers are grateful to get decal versions not available before and appreciate being informed of their release. Shouldn't Revell have listed their Tigermeet RF-4 or F-16C as new releases? The plastic wasn't changed from earlier releases of these kits, but with the new decals, they're very much new versions, aren't they?

Regarding the aftermarket stuff, yes, a lot has been done by the aftermarket guys and quite often in better quality. But there are still lots of schemes only available in Hasegawa's boxings.
There's hardly any aftermarket stuff for JASDF planes. Before DMX Decal, there were no aftermarket decals for JASDF F-15J Aggressors or Mitsubishi F-2 special schemes, leaving you dependent on Hasegawa. Of the host of JASDF special schemes, only a few were released by aftermarket guys.
There are loads of USN and USMC squadrons available only in Hasegawa's boxings. The aftermarket guys seem to concentrate on the "big shots" such as VF/VFA-103 Jolly Rogers, VF/VFA-31 Tomcatters or certain Aggressor outfits. Or something that strikes a decal guy's personal fancy. But for most of the "oddball" schemes, you're left with Hasegawa. They also seem to have a particular hang for all USN Pacific Fleet stuff.  
Just a few of the ones I'm pretty happy about: the F/A-18C in VFA-146 Blue Diamonds markings (American flag nose), the F/A-18E in VFA-105 CAG colours, the F/A-18E in VX-31 colours, the VFA-97 Warhawks 2006 CAG, F-15 in various ANG markings, the various JASDF markings, the AV-8B+ in Italian Navy markings (there was an aftermarket sheet by some Italian outfit, but it's long OOP), F-14 in low-viz VF-102 Diamondbacks scheme...

Some argue that Hasegawa's ripping off their customers by releasing the same kit over and over again with only new decals. You could also say that Hasegawa cares about their customers by not offering the same old markings over and over again.
Actually, I kind of wonder where they supposedly rip someone off. You get a complete kit with decals. No promise made that isn't kept. In case of their F-4, F-14, F-15 and F/A-18E/F, they're still the best kits around. Their F-16 is only surpassed by the Revell offering and their F/A-18A-D still build into good replications of the aircraft, on a par with the Fujimi kits and only second to the Academy kits.

In related news, Hasegawa is to release an updated (not just new decals  ;)) version of their 1/72 F/A-18E. CLICKY! (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10144515) Looks like they changed the moulds to replicate the "bard pipe" ECS vents between the vertical tails.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on June 30, 2011, 10:07:04 pm
Mortiz, I have no issue with Hasegawa releasing kits with decals if they specify that.  I've seen plenty of ads for these kits, however, where they've been listed as 'new', not a re-release with updated decals.  I got bitten buying their F/A-18D with VMFA(AW) markings specifically for that reason, only to find their rather deplorable (IMO) F/A-18A/B with a couple of bits & bobs, a pair of nice figures (altho bereft of NVGs, but I digress as at least they've got figures there) and a rather nice decal sheet.  The decal sheet & pilots were great stuff, but I'm afraid I'm no fan of the legacy Hornets and was disappointed that they didn't attempt a new mould.   They've also released other genuinely ancient kits with other decals, but what irks me moreso is that, if you're lucky, you might get two decal options.  On occasion, you get the original kit's decals as well as the re-release which is quite generous, but I still think warmed over kits of debatable quality don't justify new decals at the same price as a newly released kit.  I notice that these prices don't reflect this particular fact which I think is a valid case for anyone feeling 'ripped off'.

As for JASDF markings, perhaps you've missed those by Two Bobs, JD Decals & Afterburner Decals, all of whom produce a plethora of F-2 decal sheets in various scales?

As for whose markings are released, that goes back to 'marketing' that we're always told is a primary motivator.  Builders buy & large seem to want VF-103, 41 or whoever for their Super Hornets, Tomcats and the like.  The lesser known squadrons would be a 'financial risk' for a given company and Hasegawa is able to take this risk by releasing a kit using mould already available.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Howard of Effingham on July 01, 2011, 04:07:01 am
Yes there are two different lengths for the ALQ-184. Short and long are the official designations.
The first Hasegawa release was the short pod.

cheers jim!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on July 01, 2011, 05:32:30 am
So you got bitten buying an F/A-18D. When was that? And, erm, why didn't you check beforehand? I mean, it's been known for ages that they re-release their old kits with new decals. A new tooling by Hasegawa would have generated more hoopla than just a "new" next to the name of the kit.

And why is this rip-off thing mostly levelled at Hasegawa? Just about every manufacturer does that. Revell continues to release Italeri's (really deplorable!) 1/72 F/A-18C with new decals and they also want the full price for it. Actually, most of Revell's new releases are re-releases of older kits (theirs or others).
In some cases manufacturers re-release their old kits without even updating the decals and still charging full price for it.

<...>
As for JASDF markings, perhaps you've missed those by Two Bobs, JD Decals & Afterburner Decals, all of whom produce a plethora of F-2 decal sheets in various scales?

<...> The lesser known squadrons would be a 'financial risk' for a given company and Hasegawa is able to take this risk by releasing a kit using mould already available.

Plethora? Hardly so! TwoBobs had three F-15J Aggressor sheets in 1/48, one 1/48 F-104J Aggressor sheet and the F-15J White Dragon in 1/48 and 1/32. Nada in 1/72. Same goes for Afterburner, who don't do 1/72 period (because sales of USAF F-15 Aggressors bit them in the rear). They have two absolutely gorgeous F-2 sheets (have both, even though 1/48 ain't my preferred scale). JD Decals? Is that Platz? Yes, they have quite a lot of JASDF stuff, but for the F-2, they have a generic stencil set and the F-2 with the yellow sworls.
For most of the JASDF specials, you're still very much dependent on Hasegawa.

I don't blame the aftermarket guys releasing stuff that's commercially viable to them. In the same vein, I can't accuse Hasegawa of ripping off customers when they're the only ones who release certain schemes.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on July 01, 2011, 06:03:29 am
tick, tock: tick, tock: tick, tock
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on July 01, 2011, 07:44:49 am
Mortiz, I'll agree to disagree.

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on July 01, 2011, 09:27:43 am
:thumbsup: Then I'll agree to, erm, agree to disagree. :lol:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on July 03, 2011, 09:45:16 pm
Hasegawa have a few upcoming, including the F-16E from the UAEAF.  Hopefully, it will be styrene for the 'extra bits' rather than resin as has been the case for some of the more esoteric of this company's releases.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on July 07, 2011, 12:57:07 am
An interesting idea, that I don't think has caught on, but one which deserves to is the 'dual boxing' that Hasegawa has availed themselves of on occasion.  Sometimes, it two related types, others it two of the same or similar with decal options.  Obviously Dragon has done similar but within 144th only.

http://ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/Hasegawa/Hasegawa_Spitfire_MkVIII_combo/Has_Spitfire_MkVIII_combo.html

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on July 07, 2011, 03:42:22 am
Aye - and have you seen the price of that?  £35 quid for two kits that aren't even worth a tenner apiece?  Someone is having a laugh and it isn't the modeller.  For the same price, you could have four Airfix IXcs plus the conversion bits and the decals.  Robbing ... (rest of anti Hasegawa diatribe deleted on legal advice)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on July 07, 2011, 04:01:17 am
I have to agree Lee.  The concept is a nice one, but price-gouging or the like is definitely off.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: albeback on July 07, 2011, 06:03:32 am
Wouldn't touch Hasegawa( orTamiya,Trumpeter,Academy) now even with someone else's bargepole.!! ;D I don't care HOW good they (allegedly) are! For example, I recently bought 3 x Revell Lancasters (£44.97 total cost). Cost of just ONE Hasegawa Lancaster - £44.99!! I believe the full r r p is now around £55? They may be thrice the price but, are they thrice as nice? I doubt it although, I admit that is entirely in the eye of the beholder.

As I only work part time, my budget is severely limited. I doubt however if my self imposed boycott will make any difference. Maybe declining sales will force a change in pricing? I don't know. I'm not an expert in these matters. Certainly, the staff in my local model shops have described extremely poor sales of Hasegawa & Tamiya in particular. As a consequence, they are ordering fewer.

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on July 07, 2011, 06:33:12 am
The Hasegawa Lancaster isn't as detailed as the Revell one but it's a better build.  Plus Hasegawa had tooled for all the BI/BIII variants and there are spare bits for certain types on the sprues (the Village Inn AGL gizmo, ASR camera fairing and tropical filters).  And if you're lucky, you can get them for about £20 on ebay.  I bought a fair few about a year or so back.

Boycotting Hasegawa kits sadly won't have much of an impact.  It's the importers who are doing the gouging, not to mention the duty too.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on July 07, 2011, 07:45:48 am
I don't normally get involved in these critical discussions working on the basis of "one man's meat" etc, but I do have to agree with Lee that the majority of these Hasegawa "multi boxings" are to my mind a tad cheeky. The one that really sticks in my craw is the He 51 "Legion Condor Special" boxing. £23.48 at Hannants for 2 kits which are possibly almost 40 years old ? The real problem with any of these "re-releases" is that newcomers buy them and think they are modern toolings, the possible disapointment could turn them off modeling for ever. I have absolutely no problem with old kits being re-released as long as the origional age of the tooling is somewhere on the boxing.

Interestingly my old He 51 floatplane which is the origional boxing (I think) includes a stand, tube of glue and swastikas on the transfer sheet  ;D

Chris
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Maverick on July 07, 2011, 05:27:22 pm
Chris, I think the idea of a 'year of original release' noted on a boxtop would be an excellent idea.  Truth in advertising for a change!  Don't know how well it'd go being pitched at the various big wigs of the corporations tho.

Regards,

Mav
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: albeback on July 11, 2011, 01:41:32 pm
The Hasegawa Lancaster isn't as detailed as the Revell one but it's a better build.  Plus Hasegawa had tooled for all the BI/BIII variants and there are spare bits for certain types on the sprues (the Village Inn AGL gizmo, ASR camera fairing and tropical filters).  And if you're lucky, you can get them for about £20 on ebay.  I bought a fair few about a year or so back.

Boycotting Hasegawa kits sadly won't have much of an impact.  It's the importers who are doing the gouging, not to mention the duty too.

Fair comment. I haven't actually bought any of the Hasegawa Lancasters so, I'm not in a position to comment on whether they are a better build or not. While I accept they have all the options you mention, that doesn't ( in my view anyway) justify the price. However, again, that is down to the individual whether they are worth it or not.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on September 04, 2011, 04:38:23 am
Interesting one for the airliner fans:

(http://media.hannants.co.uk/pics/HA10681.jpg)

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA10681
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Supertom on September 13, 2011, 08:16:20 pm
Get ready for....

AN EGG PLANE F-22!!!!!!!!!

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10161100 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10161100)

(http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig16/10161100.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 14, 2011, 09:20:11 am
Hasegawa News October, 2011 thru February, 2012

LINK #1 (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2011PART3A.pdf)
LINK #2 (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2011PART3B.pdf)

Looking forward to the 1/72 EA-18G (in a regular "white" boxing) and the 1/48 F-104 CCV!  :party:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on September 15, 2011, 03:10:03 am
Get ready for....

AN EGG PLANE F-22!!!!!!!!!

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10161100 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10161100)

(http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig16/10161100.jpg)

Kewl!  We need an eggplane T-50 for it to go up against in a dogfight (cockfight???) double!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Sticky Fingers on January 13, 2012, 01:16:33 am
http://www.hlj.com/product/hsgcw-02

 :wub:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: MilitaryAircraft101 on January 13, 2012, 04:00:30 am
cockfight???
:blink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on January 13, 2012, 07:19:38 am
Steady now! ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on January 13, 2012, 07:33:20 am
http://www.hlj.com/product/hsgcw-02

 :wub:

What a beauty! :wub: :wub: :wub: Reminds me of a Ryusei with a twin tail...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: thedarkmaster on January 13, 2012, 08:29:40 am


Hasegawa are imported by Amerang which is part of Modelzone......i have looked at work at whats available to us and this one is not on the list, so don't expect to see it in the UK soon
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on January 13, 2012, 09:20:23 am
I wouldn't even bother looking for this in UK shops, to be honest - I'd go straight to HLj or 1999.co.jp. This kind of thing is never imported. Same goes for Hase's Macross Valkyrie range and their Ma.K. stuff.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on January 17, 2012, 02:39:39 am
http://www.hlj.com/product/hsgcw-02

 :wub:

What a beauty! :wub: :wub: :wub: Reminds me of a Ryusei with a twin tail...

Apart from the tail & the low wing it's very close to the Fairey Spearfish.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Supertom on January 24, 2012, 11:21:57 am
Whiffery abound!  Hasegawa will release the F-104G CCV!!!! 

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2012PART1B.pdf (http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/image/leaflet/2012PART1B.pdf)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 24, 2012, 11:24:05 am
Whiffery abound!  Hasegawa will release the F-104G CCV!!!! 

But it will probably be cheaper to buy the real thing........  :-\
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Aircav on January 24, 2012, 11:55:16 am
I think the CCV has been out before or at leaset their F-104 came with the parts to make it.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: anthonyp on January 31, 2012, 07:03:35 pm
I think the CCV has been out before or at leaset their F-104 came with the parts to make it.
Yes indeedy it has.  RoG reboxed it at one point.  There's nothing on evilBay, but if you do a Google image search you'll see it.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kevincallahan on February 01, 2012, 04:38:16 pm
Hasegawa has apparently announced a new 1:72 Eurofighter Typhoon at Nuremberg. Not sure how that will play against a pretty good Revell Germany kit, especially given the RG's price and the pricing trend for new Hasegawa kits. Not really anything else in 1:72 that I've seen in the pictures on the IPMS-Germany site that wasn't already announced. Looks like a retrenching year for my scale.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Hobbes on February 01, 2012, 11:46:59 pm
The one Hasegawa announcement that interests me is this:

(http://data6.primeportal.net/models/thomas_voigt6/hasegawa/images/hasegawa_04_of_18.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on February 02, 2012, 12:49:15 am
and me Hobbs
oooohhhhh shiney  :o
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Amphion on February 02, 2012, 01:44:15 am
V'GER  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Sticky Fingers on February 02, 2012, 03:37:28 am
No pics yet, but I have it on good authority that Hasegawa is going to add the Camel to their list of Ma.K. releases.
(http://www2.hi-nobori.net/fireorange/contents/event/images/2003winter/Image5.jpg)
Pic above is from the rare, expensive Fire Orange resin kit.


Can't wait! Easily my favourite Maschinen Krieger design for a walker.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on February 02, 2012, 03:53:38 am
Be prepared to sell your family for medical experiments to be able to afford it.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Supertom on February 03, 2012, 10:21:15 am
Be prepared to sell your family for medical experiments to be able to afford it.

It's not that bad, I only *twitch* have this odd thing my eye does *twitch* every now and then *twitch*.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: luft46models on February 16, 2012, 06:03:37 pm
Weird recent purchase from Hase was a Ju88G Berlin nose - nice kit but the prize was a Morgenstern nose complete with etched brass and clear cap - I've been after a good one of these forever and it's not even mentioned on the box as an extra - a rare bonus from Hase. this is destined for a Ju388J-3 one day, undecided whether to convert the Special Hobby Ju388 or use the old Toad Resins Ju88 to 388 conversion - any suggestions on the relative difficulty levels involved?

William in Oz
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on February 17, 2012, 03:09:02 am
Special Hobby is an ill fitting nightmare.  There are reviews elsewhere on t'interweb and all agree that it's a dog of a kit which looks nice in the box.

As for the Toad conversion, it depends on which one you've got - early modular fuselage (which they used with the K/L conversion) or the later one piece fighter fuselage (which has a twist in it that's impossible to cure).  The former has a canopy that's too big and is a lot of work.  The latter less so. The former is based on Italeri Ju 188 as the donor, the latter (weirdly) on the AMT Ju 88.  As the former has better u/c nacelles and the right wings, use the Italeri 188.  At least you have the right engines for the J-3 in it.

The J-3 also has the Jumo 213E engines.  The J-1 has the BMW 801TJs.  Radar fit is irrelevant.  The number referrs to the engine used.  Check the fantastic but expensive Schiffer book on the Ju 388.

However...  The nose of the Ju 388 is much wider than that of a Ju 88, so the nose Hasegawa give you won't fit.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: luft46models on February 17, 2012, 04:08:17 pm
Thanks for the info, looks like its back to the drawing board a bit. I seem to have the earlier Toad conversion so at least I have half a chance.

William in Oz
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on March 28, 2012, 03:27:15 pm
Hasegawa has announced the next kit in their 1/72nd scale Creator Works series after the Space Wolf SW190 from anime Captain Harlock and the Santa Cruz Seaplane from Anime movie The Princess And The Pilot. Don't know what it's called as everything is in Japanese but it's a JASDF forward-swept wing/canard jet fighter from the Ace Combat video games series and damn it looks fine!
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/hp/catalog/cw_series/cw3/index.html
Personally I want ten but can't afford Hasegawa prices!

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on March 28, 2012, 05:08:15 pm
^ Yummy!

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lre2dzvNrS1qeifydo5_250.gif)

Does it have two engines? Over-under Lightning style?  :o

Really cool to see a kit of this. And in the proper scale to boot.  :thumbsup: Pre-order price at HLJ won't be too bad, I guess.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: RussC on March 28, 2012, 08:05:51 pm
Looks like a F-35, combined with some Su-47. :drink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on March 29, 2012, 12:24:01 am
It's called the ASF-X Shinden II. Designed by Shoji Kawamori, of Macross fame. :)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: albeback on March 30, 2012, 12:08:33 am
Hasegawa has announced the next kit in their 1/72nd scale Creator Works series after the Space Wolf SW190 from anime Captain Harlock and the Santa Cruz Seaplane from Anime movie The Princess And The Pilot. Don't know what it's called as everything is in Japanese but it's a JASDF forward-swept wing/canard jet fighter from the Ace Combat video games series and damn it looks fine!
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/hp/catalog/cw_series/cw3/index.html
Personally I want ten but can't afford Hasegawa prices!

Paul Harrison


WOW!!! :o Only 10??? that has got Whiffability written all over it!!. Of course, the downside as you say is Hasegawa prices!! :banghead: However, for anyone who is interested, I recently bought a pair of Hasegaw 1/72 VF-1A Valkyrie (Macross) kits from Modelarena in Hong Kong. Total cost ( including postage to UK) - £28.88! There are some on evilbay right now
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: albeback on April 02, 2012, 02:59:00 am
Talking of Hasegawa prices, just check THIS out

 :o :o :o

Just THINK of the WHIF potential though!!. Just to ppint put though, there ARE cheaper examples on evilbay!!
!!http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hasegawa-Macross-Zero-1-72-SV-51r-w-Twinbooster-Valkyrie-Fighter-Model-Kit-/220893712422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336e4a9026
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 02, 2012, 03:31:39 am
Has anyone seen the current modelzone price for the 72nd Hasegawa Fw 190D9?  A cool 25 notes.  I could buy two Tamiya ones for that and they're the best D-9s in the scale.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 02, 2012, 04:22:26 am
Does anyone actually buy them at that price, and if so why?

Surely Hasegawa are pricing themselves out of business, at least in the UK anyway?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on April 02, 2012, 03:05:54 pm
The importers add on a big chunk, so it's not really Hase's fault, even if their prices are on the high side, that they end up so stupidly expensive here. I'd just buy 'em from Japan or HK, and cut out the middleman. But plenty of people seem willing to pay these silly prices. Same for Dragon and their armour kits, etc.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 02, 2012, 04:41:14 pm
Surely this also hasn't got anything to do with it...

UK Pound Sterling vs Japanese Yen
(http://de.advfn.com/p.php?pid=staticchart&s=FX^GBPJPY&p=8&t=37)

The Yen almost doubled in value since 2007. Before that it continually lost value since a high mark in the early 2000s. If you look at the prices on the Hasegawa boxes (*), you'll see the prices for their home market they didn't go up that much. If you compare it to how Revell kits got continually more expensive in the past, the Hasegawa price hikes are not in any way special. What importers/retailers/whathaveyou do with that is a different story.

(*)Some give the RRP at the bottom right of the bar code on the long sides of the box. As on the 1/72 AV-8B+ combo kit (two kits). There's #009936:003200, with 09936 being the kit reference number and 3200 the RRP in Japanese Yen. Others have the RRP on the short side. Again, there's the kit reference number and then the RRP, such as #00862:3000 for the 1/72 RF-4E "501 SQ ACM Special".
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: RotorheadTX on June 13, 2012, 06:20:44 pm
Am I the only one that didn't get them memo on the Santa Cruz, or has it just been completely overshadowed by the Shinden2??
I was browsing through the HLJ site today and realized that I had missed the Creator's Works #2...
I've got one of the Space Wolves, and the Shinden2 is on order, but it suddenly dawned on me that I had missed "HSGCW-02".

Paul's earlier post not withstanding, this one seems to have gone completely below the radar....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/RotorheadTX/SantaCruz.jpg)
I think it would look great in Russian green w/ red stars - in an early Sukhoi way (Su-2 or 4).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: RussC on June 14, 2012, 02:22:29 am
Am I the only one that didn't get them memo on the Santa Cruz, or has it just been completely overshadowed by the Shinden2??
I was browsing through the HLJ site today and realized that I had missed the Creator's Works #2...
I've got one of the Space Wolves, and the Shinden2 is on order, but it suddenly dawned on me that I had missed "HSGCW-02".

Paul's earlier post not withstanding, this one seems to have gone completely below the radar....
I think it would look great in Russian green w/ red stars - in an early Sukhoi way (Su-2 or 4).

  What scale? I saw these about two years back in 1/144 as prepaints. There was a kind of Yak-Spit in the group of 4 plus a really boss looking floatplane, and something of a Shinden "Sky Crawlers" type also.

   
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Daryl J. on June 15, 2012, 06:52:40 am
1/72.    With the way the floats are moulded, one could convert it to a land plane relatively easily by the looks of it all.   

Mid twenty dollar range from a major Japanese online purveyor plus shipping to the U.S.



HTH
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: RotorheadTX on June 15, 2012, 07:35:01 pm
It has panel lines for the landplane gear doors on the underside of the wings, but they would have to be cut out, and undercarriage scratchbuilt.
There's a build-up of it over on ARC, and that's pushed me over the edge to getting one!

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=247181&st=0&p=2351436&hl=santa%20cruz&fromsearch=1&#entry2351436

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=248506&st=0&p=2362630&hl=santa%20cruz&fromsearch=1&#entry2362630
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on September 08, 2012, 12:45:41 am
going back to #242 and #243 ( prev page)  acording to the hasa web page its out and at a rough ( ie via google) cost translation would be abought 16 quid. alowing for import and stuff hopefuly around 20 ( ish maybeee) so i may be going for 2  on to real world and one to kit bash into my ( now defunct) Revell ISS for a deep space explorer.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on September 08, 2012, 02:26:54 am
going back to #242 and #243 ( prev page)  acording to the hasa web page its out and at a rough ( ie via google) cost translation would be abought 16 quid. alowing for import and stuff hopefuly around 20 ( ish maybeee) so i may be going for 2  on to real world and one to kit bash into my ( now defunct) Revell ISS for a deep space explorer.

Think your'e being a tad optimistic there. I'm convinced that the UK importers take the US dollar price and simply put a £ sign in front. So I reckon £30 to £35, hope I'm wrong for your sake
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: MiB on September 08, 2012, 02:45:47 am

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/RotorheadTX/SantaCruz.jpg)

Excuse me, what kind of plane is this interesting model?
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 08, 2012, 06:39:23 pm
The pricing works both ways.

The Revell re-release of the old Matchbox Stranraer lists for ¥4620 in Japan, thats £36.88.

Innerestin' aint it that a commodity, plastic model kits, that is listed as tariff free in the standardized
tariff tables used by all the relevant parties, suddenly doubles in price when shipped from one place
t'other. Yeah, fuel rates are higher and exchange rates don't help, but they certainly don't account
for 80 to 100%+ increases.
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: lenny100 on September 08, 2012, 11:43:58 pm
Hasegawa has announced the next kit in their 1/72nd scale Creator Works series after the Space Wolf SW190 from anime Captain Harlock and the Santa Cruz Seaplane from Anime movie The Princess And The Pilot. Don't know what it's called as everything is in Japanese but it's a JASDF forward-swept wing/canard jet fighter from the Ace Combat video games series and damn it looks fine!
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/hp/catalog/cw_series/cw3/index.html
Personally I want ten but can't afford Hasegawa prices!

Paul Harrison

that is the dreamstar as described in the dale brown books down to a t even the swing tail mount and the elastic wings
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on September 09, 2012, 01:44:38 am
The pricing works both ways.

The Revell re-release of the old Matchbox Stranraer lists for ¥4620 in Japan, thats £36.88.

Innerestin' aint it that a commodity, plastic model kits, that is listed as tariff free in the standardized
tariff tables used by all the relevant parties, suddenly doubles in price when shipped from one place
t'other. Yeah, fuel rates are higher and exchange rates don't help, but they certainly don't account
for 80 to 100%+ increases.
 :banghead:

Yikes, didn't realise the impact "the other way"  :banghead:

The tariff issue is an interesting one. I got so tired of being told the reason for high prices was "the customs tariffs" that I took a copy of the relevent pages to a show with me and showed the trader (I used to use the tariff at work a lot). He was genuinely surprised and said "wait till I see that salesman again" and asked if he could have the pages I'd copied. :wacko:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on September 09, 2012, 04:24:10 am
Narses... thats an interesting one,  and i admit would be something id love to see the faces of both the trader and saleman latter with.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on September 09, 2012, 04:33:41 am
had a look at hannants no sign , but comet have it in at just shy of £27 which is on the high side of acceptable i think.  still ill see what my budget is like for multiples, ( and who else has it)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitbasher on October 02, 2012, 06:40:08 am
Holborn MZ: £65 for a Hasegawa 1/72 Liberator in Coastal Command colours. One or the other - maybe both - are having a laugh!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on October 02, 2012, 08:30:25 am
Holborn MZ: £65 for a Hasegawa 1/72 Liberator in Coastal Command colours. One or the other - maybe both - are having a laugh!
Japanese list is ¥5600, HLJ have it for ¥4480 which is about £35.50.

The exchange rates are having a serious negative impact on Japanese
exports.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on October 03, 2012, 12:48:50 am
Holborn MZ: £65 for a Hasegawa 1/72 Liberator in Coastal Command colours. One or the other - maybe both - are having a laugh!
Japanese list is ¥5600, HLJ have it for ¥4480 which is about £35.50.

The exchange rates are having a serious negative impact on Japanese
exports.

5,600 Yen is currently £45 approx, so that's £20 for shipping given Japanese traders mark up is the same as UK ??  :blink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: James on October 03, 2012, 02:03:30 am
Holborn MZ: £65 for a Hasegawa 1/72 Liberator in Coastal Command colours. One or the other - maybe both - are having a laugh!

 :o

I won't buy Hasegawa kits. They are cracking kits and the subjects are great but they are far far too expensive for what they are imo. £65 for a 1/72 Liberator is mental. Would like one of their Haweyes but they are £45.

Japanese list is ¥5600, HLJ have it for ¥4480 which is about £35.50.

The exchange rates are having a serious negative impact on Japanese
exports.

5,600 Yen is currently £45 approx, so that's £20 for shipping given Japanese traders mark up is the same as UK ??  :blink:

£20!  :o I know they are Korean, but Academy kits seem to be better priced IIRC (I know MZ have loads in the sales but you can get 1/72 Stratotankers for under £40 at full price - £19.99 in MZ sale). Shipping can't be that different from Korea.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on October 03, 2012, 03:05:49 am
5,600 Yen is currently £45 approx, so that's £20 for shipping given Japanese traders mark up is the same as UK ??  :blink:

Shipping, VAT, duty plus Konstam's cut and mark up.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on November 19, 2012, 03:29:18 pm
I don't know if this has been put on here or not, but seeing it made me want one and bite the big bullet that is Hasegawas criminally insane pricing. I will be letter box watching until it gets here
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=HSG%2064503
Chris
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on November 20, 2012, 12:12:14 am
It'll probably never make it here in official model shops, but it is available - got one in my stash. It's huge and elegant, but also a bit boring OOB. You IMHO better "make something" from it- personally I consider converting mine into a German Luftwaffe aircraft :D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on November 20, 2012, 05:40:10 am
Mine will more than likely be a SHADO aircraft, or possibly a Carrier bases U.S Navy aircraft. I will have to look for some F 18 landing gear so I can replace the front one if I do it for the Navy, colourwise, I am tempted to do it in the same colours as my Navy F-22, F-23 and F-20. When funds allow I will order another one as a Marine corps ground pounder would be good too.
Chris
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Sticky Fingers on November 20, 2012, 12:55:19 pm
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,31282.msg579277.html#msg579277
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on November 21, 2012, 12:51:51 pm
Very cool, looks like I will getting some more of these :unsure: :wacko:
Chris
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on July 29, 2013, 11:08:09 am
Worth having a look at Kingkit for Hasegawa at the moment: they've got some new and 2nd hand stock marked down to very reasonable prices:

http://www.kingkit.co.uk/search.php

Some examples, all in 1/72nd:

AH-64 Apache : £4.99
F-8 Crusader : £4.99
MiG-23 : £4.99
MiG-27 : £4.99
S-3 Viking : £7.99
Kfir-C2 : £3.99 !!!
F-86F (old boxing) : £2.50 !!!
UH-1D : £4.99
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on October 11, 2013, 01:54:44 pm
Next new tool is a 1/72nd F-35A. http://happy.ap.teacup.com/runchickens/img/1381452355.jpg
Photo's from All Japan Hobby show. http://happy.ap.teacup.com/applet/runchickens/201310/archive

Was hoping for more on the Sword Bae 125-800 but it's just the same photo. VERY interested the 1/72nd Haunebu II from Wave with full interior.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: rickshaw on October 11, 2013, 09:08:14 pm
From your second link:
(http://happy.ap.teacup.com/runchickens/img/1381494084.jpg)

Pity the text is in Japanese.  Do you know what it is referencing?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on October 12, 2013, 01:35:57 am
that looks like one of the o`neill space station designs, for the Lagrange points
google image shots here https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1052&bih=876&q=o+neil+space+station&oq=o+neil+space+station&gs_l=img.3...1203.12089.0.12458.20.7.0.13.0.0.151.932.0j7.7.0....0...1ac.1.28.img..14.6.811.QUFtxIP_bs8

stopping off points for the High Frontier.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on October 12, 2013, 01:38:27 am
That Hanebu looks tempting.  I was planning on scratchbuilding something similar.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on October 12, 2013, 01:51:10 am
that looks like one of the o`neill space station designs, for the Lagrange points
google image shots here https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1052&bih=876&q=o+neil+space+station&oq=o+neil+space+station&gs_l=img.3...1203.12089.0.12458.20.7.0.13.0.0.151.932.0j7.7.0....0...1ac.1.28.img..14.6.811.QUFtxIP_bs8

stopping off points for the High Frontier.

Wasn't there a Japanese Giant Robot series or film that featured an O'Neill station? I seem to remember Syd Mead paintings of giant robots fighting in one of them?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 12, 2013, 07:30:50 am
According to an entry about the O'Neill Stations in an Orbiter Forum the full size one was intended to be 50 km long!!!  :o

That makes any potential model a very small scale!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on October 12, 2013, 08:52:32 am
According to an entry about the O'Neill Stations in an Orbiter Forum the full size one was intended to be 50 km long!!!  :o

That makes any potential model a very small scale!

Well that's only about 2278 feet in 1/72 scale Kit  ----  doable I think    :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 12, 2013, 11:09:21 am
According to an entry about the O'Neill Stations in an Orbiter Forum the full size one was intended to be 50 km long!!!  :o

That makes any potential model a very small scale!

Well that's only about 2278 feet in 1/72 scale Kit  ----  doable I think    :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

The Wiki entry makes them a lot smaller, only 35 km long...........  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on October 12, 2013, 12:21:26 pm
there were several version proposed of several different sizes, pick the one you want  :thumbsup:
and you could put longer solar wings on it as well Kit  ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on October 12, 2013, 12:35:10 pm
Most of the various Gundam anime series had O'Neill style space stations. The Wave Space Settlement kit design dates from 1970.
Wooks they're doing an Adamski UFO version too (without all the guns).

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on October 12, 2013, 03:35:00 pm
Yep, it's a Gundam staple. They're even used as weapons - at the start of the One Year War, a colony is de-orbited and aimed at Earth Federation HQ in South America. However, it is pushed off course and instead annihilates a good chunk of Australia (including Sydney). It's also done or attempted several other times (directed at both Earth and at lunar cities) during the timeline. Key events also take place on colonies (the 0080 "War in the Pocket" series takes place almost entirely inside one).

I may well have to get one of the Wave kits. ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on December 04, 2013, 11:41:45 am
This looks worth having if you're into Jags: a single seater and a two-seater in one box with pretty neat paint schemes for £22 in the clearance sale at Hannants:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02008

(http://media.hannants.co.uk/pics/HA02008.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on December 04, 2013, 11:45:20 am
Still seems pricey. I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit in forever.....I would like a decent 72nd scale Jag or two tho. Maybe Mr. Airfix will makes us one !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: darthspud on December 04, 2013, 11:54:22 am
Just ordered my twin kit from Hannant's, even with postage they're a bargain.
Thanks Weaver :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on December 04, 2013, 11:59:30 am
Still seems pricey. I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit in forever.....I would like a decent 72nd scale Jag or two tho. Maybe Mr. Airfix will makes us one !

 :cheers:

They're £11 each: if Airfix did a new tool Jag, I'd expect it to be dearer than that. By way of rough comparison, the New Lightning F.2, which is about the same size as a Jag, is £14.99.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on December 04, 2013, 12:16:09 pm
I guess you're right ! I always think of a pound as being $2...but it's closer to a buck fifty  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on December 04, 2013, 01:39:55 pm
By way of rough comparison, the New Lightning F.2, which is about the same size as a Jag, is £14.99.

£14.99 for a new tool Lightning?  Cheap.  How much was the Hasegawa F6 combo?  £30+ for a 40+ year old tooling?  You're having a giraffe, mate.  How much is the ill shaped abortion from Trumpeter?  Nigh on 20 notes.  The Airfix kit is bang on the money, shapewise.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on December 04, 2013, 01:57:19 pm
By way of rough comparison, the New Lightning F.2, which is about the same size as a Jag, is £14.99.

£14.99 for a new tool Lightning?  Cheap.  How much was the Hasegawa F6 combo?  £30+ for a 40+ year old tooling?  You're having a giraffe, mate.  How much is the ill shaped abortion from Trumpeter?  Nigh on 20 notes.  The Airfix kit is bang on the money, shapewise.


Couldn't agree more.  My point was that there's no way a new tool Jag from Airfix would be less than the £11 each the Hase ones cost at the Hannant's sale price. If they were at the regular Hase rip-off price of £40 they'd be a lot less attractive.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Daryl J. on February 02, 2014, 10:42:22 am
1/72 Su-35.
There will be much fodder it seems in the near future for fans of 1/72 Flankers!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 12, 2014, 12:35:50 pm
Remember the little research sub that was built up for an article in Airfix mag a few months ago? Hannants have it in:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HASW01

(http://media.hannants.co.uk/pics/HASW01.jpg)


All sorts of whiffie potential, since it's a decent scale. The first thnig I thought of was have it slung under a Skycrane helicopter.....
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Nils on February 12, 2014, 12:39:51 pm
in GTA5, there was a mission where you had  similar looking sub, slung under a CH-47/CH-53 hybrid  :rolleyes:
that would make in interesting and awesome diorama  :mellow:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 12, 2014, 06:46:21 pm
Heh - cheesy monster movie diorama:

A Skycrane of the JMSDF is lifting the mini-sub out of the sea with a diver (who's just attached the cables) standing on top of it while using it's main gear-mounted minigun turrets to shoot at the tentacles rising out of the water..... ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on February 12, 2014, 06:48:58 pm
Or launched from a mothership sub......

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on February 13, 2014, 04:43:20 pm
Heh - cheesy monster movie diorama:

A Skycrane of the JMSDF is lifting the mini-sub out of the sea with a diver (who's just attached the cables) standing on top of it while using it's main gear-mounted minigun turrets to shoot at the tentacles rising out of the water..... ;D

Sounds like a plan!  :thumbsup: Maybe something Pacific Rim-ish?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kerick on February 13, 2014, 07:58:05 pm
More like the watcher at the doors of Moria!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 14, 2014, 12:08:23 am
I know at least of two projects where is is to be combined with a scientific carrier ship in 1:72 scale. IIRC, one of these is to be based on a Matchbox Flower Class Corvette, the other is to be scratched from an RC boat and will probably be floating and cruising when finished.

BTW, there are two kits of the Shin-kai available - they have different propulsion arrangemenst (early and late type).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on February 14, 2014, 04:16:46 am
Can you point us in the direction of these two projects ? Especially the Flower Class Corvette one !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 14, 2014, 07:25:47 am
Unfortunately not. One is a project of a SF modeler in another forum (no pics to be posted/linked, it was mentioned there), and the RC project is a friend's who ALSO started with a Flower Class Corvette, but found it to be unsuited and too small(!) as a base ship, esp. since he plans to integrate a helipad... I know that the thing is almost 5' long, based on a 2nd had RC ship, but I haven't seen it in persona. Surely a huge project, in both cases!  :party:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on March 19, 2014, 09:05:43 pm
Don't know how long it is since this has been out, but given how big it is, £37 doesn't actually seen unreasonable by modern standards:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02069
(http://media.hannants.co.uk/pics/HA02069.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 20, 2014, 03:51:33 am
Given Hasegawa's usual pricing these days, that's almost CHEAP for the amount of plastic you get!  :o
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on March 20, 2014, 04:14:51 am
Yeah, be sure that a double combo ("limited edition") at thrice the price is also in the pipeline...  :wacko:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 20, 2014, 04:15:13 am
Bearing in mind it's a 1960s tooling - I had a Frog boxing - it's overpriced. £20 is more reasonable.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on March 20, 2014, 04:53:08 pm
Agree with you Lee £20 is fair, won't be paying £37 for one! Saw a pic somewhere of an Egg V-22 Osprey coming from Hase.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on March 20, 2014, 07:26:37 pm
Bearing in mind it's a 1960s tooling - I had a Frog boxing - it's overpriced. £20 is more reasonable.

And Hasegawa's RRP is for the kit is 3400 Yen, which, going by current exchange rates, is the princely sum of..... *cue drum roll* ............ £20.11!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on March 21, 2014, 12:51:24 am
Got a Hasegawa F-35A on order from Japan, yes I know its got no open weapon bays and it hasn't any pylons but its pretty cheap for a Hasegawa kit and I wanted to compare it to the size, shape and details to both the Italeri and Academy kits to see how much it differs and which will be the definitive F-35A kit in 1/72.

The other two kits are quite different so it will be an interesting exercise to see which the Hasegawa kit matches in size and shapes or if its completely different again. I have a feeling we may have to wait a few years to see a sanctioned and accurate scale model of the F-35
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 21, 2014, 03:21:55 am
Bearing in mind it's a 1960s tooling - I had a Frog boxing - it's overpriced. £20 is more reasonable.

And Hasegawa's RRP is for the kit is 3400 Yen, which, going by current exchange rates, is the princely sum of..... *cue drum roll* ............ £20.11!

Now why doesn't tthis surprise me?

I'm getting more and more convinced that the exhorbitant price of Hase's kits in the UK is due to the monumental greed of the importers or their agents. Hopefully this can't last long as it must be having a catastrophic effect on Hase sales here and they'll either dump the importers or read them the riot act.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on March 22, 2014, 08:16:40 pm
You'd be better off buying an Italeri Sunderland and painting it green  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on March 23, 2014, 11:13:30 am
Bearing in mind it's a 1960s tooling - I had a Frog boxing - it's overpriced. £20 is more reasonable.

And Hasegawa's RRP is for the kit is 3400 Yen, which, going by current exchange rates, is the princely sum of..... *cue drum roll* ............ £20.11!

Now why doesn't tthis surprise me?

I'm getting more and more convinced that the exhorbitant price of Hase's kits in the UK is due to the monumental greed of the importers or their agents. Hopefully this can't last long as it must be having a catastrophic effect on Hase sales here and they'll either dump the importers or read them the riot act.

I suspect that Hasegawa really doesn't care. Britain is not a primary (or even secondary, I suspect) market for them. And the fact that people still seem to be willing to pay Amerang's stupid prices means that it's not likely to change. Import direct from HK or Japan, it'll be much cheaper.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 02, 2014, 02:28:50 pm
Interesting one from Hase:

(http://media.hannants.co.uk/pics/HA07369.jpg)

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA07369

Is it a whiff or did they actually get some?


ALSO:

Hannants are listing a range of Hase kits as DOWN IN PRICE. Not sure what's going on, but it looks like this isn't a Hannants sale, rather it's an actual reduction in RRPs to sensible levels. Here's the list:

Hasegawa HUGE PRICE REDUCTION ON SELECTED HASEGAWA KITS!!!
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAA01 1:72 Nakajima Ki-43-II Oscar 'Hayabusa'
Down in price.  £5.99  £4.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAA01

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAA03 1:72 Kawasaki Ki-61-I 'Tony' 'Hien'
Down in price.  £5.99  £4.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAA03

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAA07 1:72 Nakajima B5N2 'Kate'
Down in price.  £5.99  £4.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAA07

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAA08 1:72 Republic P-47D Thunderbolt
Down in price.  £5.99  £4.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAA08

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAB02 1:72 Lockheed-Martin F-16C Fighting Falcon
Down in price.  £6.99  £5.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB02

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAB04 1:72 Dassault Mirage F.1C
Down in price.  £6.99  £5.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB04

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAB13 1:72 Grumman X-29 Advanced Technology Trainer
Down in price.  £6.99  £5.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB13

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAB15 1:72 BAC/EE Lightning F.6
Down in price.  £6.99  £5.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB15

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC02 1:72 McDonnell F-4E Phantom
Down in price.  £7.99  £6.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC02

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC06 1:72 McDonnell F-15C Eagle
Down in price.  £7.99  £6.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC06

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC08 1:72 Grumman A-6E Intruder
Down in price.  £7.99  £6.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC08

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC09 1:72 Vought F-8E Crusader
Down in price.  £7.99  £6.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC09

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC11 1:72 Convair F-106A 'Delta Dart'
Down in price.  £7.99  £6.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC11

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC12 1:72 Lockheed-Martin F-16N Fighting Falcon Fighting Falcon Top Gun
Down in price.  £7.99  £6.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC12

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAD03 1:72 Sikorsky UH-60A Black Hawk
Down in price.  £9.99  £8.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAD03

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAD15 1:72 Lockheed-Martin F-16N Fighting Falcon
Down in price.  £9.99  £8.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAD15

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAD17 1:72 Lockheed F-104S / Lockheed F-104G Starfighter
Down in price.  £9.99  £8.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAD17

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAD20 1:72 Kyushu J7W1 Shinden
Down in price.  £9.99  £8.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAD20

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAD24 1:72 McDonnell-Douglas AV-8B Harrier Plus Harrier II
Down in price.  £9.99  £8.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAD24

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAD25 1:72 North-American P-51D Mustang
Down in price.  £9.99  £8.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAD25
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 02, 2014, 03:16:50 pm
And not before time if they are really reducing them.

Isn't that Japanese Me-109 similar to the one that Airfix did in 1/48 for the Club Special last year?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Old Wombat on August 02, 2014, 09:33:09 pm
And not before time if they are really reducing them.

Isn't that Japanese Me-109 similar to the one that Airfix did in 1/48 for the Club Special last year?

Interestingly the Hasegawa kit is also 1/48 & Limited Edition. :-\

Airfix & Hasegawa aren't in cahoots, are they? :blink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on August 03, 2014, 08:19:20 am
Bearing in mind it's a 1960s tooling - I had a Frog boxing - it's overpriced. £20 is more reasonable.

And Hasegawa's RRP is for the kit is 3400 Yen, which, going by current exchange rates, is the princely sum of..... *cue drum roll* ............ £20.11!

Now why doesn't tthis surprise me?

I'm getting more and more convinced that the exhorbitant price of Hase's kits in the UK is due to the monumental greed of the importers or their agents. Hopefully this can't last long as it must be having a catastrophic effect on Hase sales here and they'll either dump the importers or read them the riot act.

It's not (only) the importeurs, it's also the fcat that there seems to be an audience that actually buys the stuff for THAT price tags.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 03, 2014, 08:36:22 am
Yup I noticed those prices at Hannants. For once they are reasonable but remember some of them are old kits. Nowt wrong with them but they aren't new tools
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 05, 2014, 10:16:47 am
http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs3515.html (http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs3515.html)

Modern Euro Weapons set - finally !!!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 05, 2014, 11:07:29 am
http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs3515.html (http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs3515.html)

Modern Euro Weapons set - finally !!!

Excellent news, if they're affordable of course....
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on August 05, 2014, 11:23:17 am
http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs3515.html (http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs3515.html)

Modern Euro Weapons set - finally !!!

Excellent news, if they're affordable of course....

What makes you think THAT?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: pyro-manic on August 05, 2014, 11:32:59 am
Shouldn't be too bad, if their other weapons sets are anything to go on. If it does end up very pricy, then most of those weapons can be had for about £13 from Revell, with a free Tiffie in the box to boot. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Steel Penguin on August 05, 2014, 12:11:31 pm
 :banghead: too small  heres hoping they do the 1:48 version soon
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 05, 2014, 01:39:57 pm
Interesting that the blurb mentions Mirage 2000s when in fact almost none of those weapons apply to it.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 05, 2014, 09:58:20 pm
Interesting that the blurb mentions Mirage 2000s when in fact almost none of those weapons apply to it.

Should be Rafale i guess using the Meteor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on August 06, 2014, 09:56:36 am
Interesting stuff!  :thumbsup: Especially the Brimstone missiles and launchers.  :party:
Going by the types included and the blurb mentioning 86 parts, I suppose the set consists of the weapons coming with Hasegawa's 1/72 Eurofighter Typhoon. The three sprues X, Y and Z (LINK (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10270737z5/70/5)) contain exactly 43 parts. So, each sprue included twice and you have 86 parts, giving four each IRIS-T, ASRAAM, AMRAAM, Meteor, ALARM and two each Storm Shadow, Taurus and Brimstone launcher (with three missiles each). Nice!

Interesting to see the Taurus, Storm Shadow and Brimstones on a separate sprue, as well as the ALARMS on a separate sprue. Wonder whether we'll see some updated Tornadoes from Hasegawa....
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on August 06, 2014, 12:13:56 pm
Interesting to see that sprue Z is listed as x2 but also not for use  :blink:

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 06, 2014, 12:19:21 pm
Wish somebody would do a decent French weapons set. They have lots of interesting stuff, and since they export "freely" they're useful for all sorts of whiff ideas, not just in-service French stuff. Off the top of my head:

R.550 Magic 2 AAM
Super 530D AAM
MICA-RF AAM
MICA-IR AAM
SCALP-EG ASM
ASMP ASM (nuclear)
AM-39 Exocet AShM
AS-137 ARMAT ARM
AS-30L ASM
MATRA LGBs (can't recall the name)
ATLIS II targeting pod
Beluga CBUs
BAP-100 mini-concrete-piercing bombs
BAT-120 mini-frag bombs
9 and 18 round carriers for the BAP-100s and BAT-120s
Durandal anti-runway bombs
Thomson-Brandt 100mm rocket pods (4 and 6 round)

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 06, 2014, 03:29:15 pm
http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs2120.html (http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-pages/hsgs2120.html)


(http://www.hasegawausa.com/product-images/hsgs2120main-lg.jpg)

B-47E Research Aircraft

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: MiB on August 06, 2014, 03:30:40 pm
 :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: rickshaw on August 06, 2014, 04:53:18 pm
Wish somebody would do a decent French weapons set. They have lots of interesting stuff, and since they export "freely" they're useful for all sorts of whiff ideas, not just in-service French stuff. Off the top of my head:

R.550 Magic 2 AAM
Super 530D AAM
MICA-RF AAM
MICA-IR AAM
SCALP-EG ASM
ASMP ASM (nuclear)
AM-39 Exocet AShM
AS-137 ARMAT ARM
AS-30L ASM
MATRA LGBs (can't recall the name)
ATLIS II targeting pod
Beluga CBUs
BAP-100 mini-concrete-piercing bombs
BAT-120 mini-frag bombs
9 and 18 round carriers for the BAP-100s and BAT-120s
Durandal anti-runway bombs
Thomson-Brandt 100mm rocket pods (4 and 6 round)

Didn't Heller do one?  I'm sure I have one in my stash...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on August 06, 2014, 05:25:06 pm
Wish somebody would do a decent French weapons set. They have lots of interesting stuff, and since they export "freely" they're useful for all sorts of whiff ideas, not just in-service French stuff. Off the top of my head:

R.550 Magic 2 AAM
Super 530D AAM
MICA-RF AAM
MICA-IR AAM
SCALP-EG ASM
ASMP ASM (nuclear)
AM-39 Exocet AShM
AS-137 ARMAT ARM
AS-30L ASM
MATRA LGBs (can't recall the name)
ATLIS II targeting pod
Beluga CBUs
BAP-100 mini-concrete-piercing bombs
BAT-120 mini-frag bombs
9 and 18 round carriers for the BAP-100s and BAT-120s
Durandal anti-runway bombs
Thomson-Brandt 100mm rocket pods (4 and 6 round)

Didn't Heller do one?  I'm sure I have one in my stash...

Yes, I have one in the stash too, and used some of it --
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 06, 2014, 05:26:39 pm
Cheers folks - didn't know about the Heller one. Unfortunately, it seems to be rare as hen's teeth nowadays. It's also French/NATO, so there are some things in it that duplicate other sets and other things on my list that arn't in it.

Looks like Skunkmodel does a 1/48th one too (limited selection though): http://www.hyperscale.com/2011/reviews/kits/smw48008reviewme_1.htm
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 07, 2014, 02:56:24 am
From that angle the B-47 always looks a little cartoonish to me. Smiley face ?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 07, 2014, 04:26:43 am
Cheers folks - didn't know about the Heller one. Unfortunately, it seems to be rare as hen's teeth nowadays. It's also French/NATO, so there are some things in it that duplicate other sets and other things on my list that arn't in it.

Looks like Skunkmodel does a 1/48th one too (limited selection though): http://www.hyperscale.com/2011/reviews/kits/smw48008reviewme_1.htm

http://www.modartdec.com/mads.html (http://www.modartdec.com/mads.html)

Some of these fit the bill ?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on August 07, 2014, 11:54:12 am
The B-47 is a probably reissue with new decals. It would be nice to see more of them on the market though and in more modern plastic than the original was.

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: albeback on August 07, 2014, 01:25:01 pm
The B-47 is a probably reissue with new decals. It would be nice to see more of them on the market though and in more modern plastic than the original was.

Gondor

Agreed. The plastic is very hard & brittle. Last time I tackled one of these, two of the wing halves snapped with very little provocation!! :banghead:. Be nice if it was a completely new kit of course but,it would probably then be completely unaffordable (in the UK at least!)

Allan
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 07, 2014, 04:06:48 pm
Cheers folks - didn't know about the Heller one. Unfortunately, it seems to be rare as hen's teeth nowadays. It's also French/NATO, so there are some things in it that duplicate other sets and other things on my list that arn't in it.

Looks like Skunkmodel does a 1/48th one too (limited selection though): http://www.hyperscale.com/2011/reviews/kits/smw48008reviewme_1.htm

http://www.modartdec.com/mads.html (http://www.modartdec.com/mads.html)

Some of these fit the bill ?

Yep - some of those fit the bill very nicely in particular, I don't know of any other models of the 100mm RP pods. Cheers!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: rickshaw on August 07, 2014, 05:14:55 pm
Some interesting things there.  What were the "B.O.A. "Espadon" wingtip pods for Mirage IV." used for?  Air sampling?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2014, 12:50:07 am
I'm sorely tempted to buy all of the Mirage IV add-ons! What a variety of stuff they loaded onto that great looking aircraft.

After I'd spent a week or so scratchbuilding an ASMP missile for my RW Mirage IV those guys came out with a resin version. Don't you just HATE it when that happens?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on August 08, 2014, 01:22:34 am
Some interesting things there.  What were the "B.O.A. "Espadon" wingtip pods for Mirage IV." used for?  Air sampling?

ECM.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 08, 2014, 04:23:14 am
I'm sorely tempted to buy all of the Mirage IV add-ons! What a variety of stuff they loaded onto that great looking aircraft.

After I'd spent a week or so scratchbuilding an ASMP missile for my RW Mirage IV those guys came out with a resin version. Don't you just HATE it when that happens?

The Heller Mirage 2000N has an injection ASMP BTW  ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on August 08, 2014, 06:23:57 am
That might be the coolest looking 109 I've ever seen !

And what's with all the excitement over the weapons ? Don't you get pretty much all that in a Revell Typhhon ?

The B-47 painting looks awesome too. Big kit !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2014, 08:13:54 am
I'm sorely tempted to buy all of the Mirage IV add-ons! What a variety of stuff they loaded onto that great looking aircraft.

After I'd spent a week or so scratchbuilding an ASMP missile for my RW Mirage IV those guys came out with a resin version. Don't you just HATE it when that happens?

The Heller Mirage 2000N has an injection ASMP BTW  ;)

It has, and they bought THAT out after I'd scratched mine.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: albeback on August 08, 2014, 08:10:25 pm

And what's with all the excitement over the weapons ? Don't you get pretty much all that in a Revell Typhhon ?


 :cheers:

 :lol: I believe it was pointed out earlier that you get a Typhoon free with the Revell weapons set!! Probably a bit cheaper too!!

Allan
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 09, 2014, 01:59:49 am

And what's with all the excitement over the weapons ? Don't you get pretty much all that in a Revell Typhhon ?


 :cheers:

 :lol: I believe it was pointed out earlier that you get a Typhoon free with the Revell weapons set!! Probably a bit cheaper too!!

Allan



Depends if your after Brimstones too, as thats not on the Revell kit
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: rickshaw on August 09, 2014, 05:47:48 am
I'm sorely tempted to buy all of the Mirage IV add-ons! What a variety of stuff they loaded onto that great looking aircraft.

After I'd spent a week or so scratchbuilding an ASMP missile for my RW Mirage IV those guys came out with a resin version. Don't you just HATE it when that happens?

The Heller Mirage 2000N has an injection ASMP BTW  ;)

It has, and they bought THAT out after I'd scratched mine.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The Heller one I built was very poor quality.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on August 09, 2014, 06:17:19 am
Depends if your after Brimstones too, as thats not on the Revell kit

Says the guy who can scratch-build an entire air/ sea fleet  :wub:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 09, 2014, 07:18:37 am
I'm sorely tempted to buy all of the Mirage IV add-ons! What a variety of stuff they loaded onto that great looking aircraft.

After I'd spent a week or so scratchbuilding an ASMP missile for my RW Mirage IV those guys came out with a resin version. Don't you just HATE it when that happens?

The Heller Mirage 2000N has an injection ASMP BTW  ;)

It has, and they bought THAT out after I'd scratched mine.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The Heller one I built was very poor quality.

I bought a 2000N when it was released, just to see how my ASMP compared with theirs and I was less than impressed too.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Hobbes on August 09, 2014, 09:34:34 am
Depends if your after Brimstones too, as thats not on the Revell kit

Says the guy who can scratch-build an entire air/ sea fleet  :wub:


Having scratchbuilt a few Brimstones, in this scale their fins are tiny (front fins are ~1x1 mm) and a PITA to install correctly.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on August 28, 2014, 09:20:13 am
Coming in November:
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGHC20/Aut

(http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/78/Nissan_B121.jpg)

I know many won't care, but fer some of us.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 28, 2014, 10:18:27 am
Coming in November:
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGHC20/Aut

I know many won't care, but fer some of us.   :thumbsup:


It'd look good with a machine-gun in the back....... ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Old Wombat on August 28, 2014, 11:48:53 am
Hmm!? It's the wrong scale on this site, too! :-\

Guys, you've gotta learn from Meng & make your (modern) civilian vehicles in 1/35th! :banghead:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on August 28, 2014, 04:31:13 pm
Guys, you've gotta learn from Meng & make your (modern) civilian vehicles in 1/35th! :banghead:

Yeah, like Meng's new Ford F350 ... oh wait, that's also 1/24th.  ;D

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/meng/kit_meng_cs001.shtml
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on August 28, 2014, 06:45:29 pm
Nice Datto.  Not to sure about the Ford though - a bit modern for me.

Like 1/72 for aircraft there is only one true scale for vehicles and that is 1/25.
1/24 is acceptable however.  1/35 is not. :wacko:


Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kerick on August 28, 2014, 06:47:45 pm
Then we need some 1/24th scale weapon sets!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on August 28, 2014, 08:28:46 pm
AMT Joker's Goon Car/Roscoe's Sheriff car/TJ Hooker Patrol Car provides small arms.
Italeri 1/24 Armed Landrover and Landcruiser provide a few larger guns.
AMT Hogan's Hero's Jeep (IIRC) has a Recoilless Rifle and/or machine gun.
Also Kit Form Services http://www.kitformservices.com/standard.html have weapons on their very impressive looking (if pricey) range of 1/24 British Army vehicles and I suppose might sell them separately.
I really really want a Stalwart from these guys but can't justify the price at the moment.
Damn.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Old Wombat on August 28, 2014, 10:52:24 pm
Guys, you've gotta learn from Meng & make your (modern) civilian vehicles in 1/35th! :banghead:

Yeah, like Meng's new Ford F350 ... oh wait, that's also 1/24th.  ;D

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/meng/kit_meng_cs001.shtml


Yeah, I know, that was a big disappointment from Meng. :banghead:

Hopefully they come (back) to their senses for future releases. ;)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on August 28, 2014, 11:59:17 pm
BTW Hasegawa are also going to follow the new European Aircraft Weapons set with a Russian Weapons Set

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10289529 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10289529)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on August 29, 2014, 01:33:08 am
BTW Hasegawa are also going to follow the new European Aircraft Weapons set with a Russian Weapons Set

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10289529 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10289529)

Cool.  I've got the Air to Air stuff in an ICM set but the Air to Ground stuff would be useful for arming modern PDRV stuff.

Meng should do a modern Cat D6 sized Dozer in 1/24.  They'd sell heaps to Truck builders who want a decent load to put on a low loader.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on September 01, 2014, 04:48:29 am
New Van Ship kit coming.
(http://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/hsg/hsg64713_0.jpg?v=1409278112)
http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG64713/Sci
This one has a torpedo instead of the Vespa but otherwise looks the same as the earlier kit.

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on October 05, 2014, 04:09:59 pm
Reissued Hasegawa kits at sensible prices!

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAA10 1:72 Re-release! Vought F4U-1D Corsair  £5.99  £4.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAA10

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAB08 1:72 Re-release! Vought A-7A Corsair II  £6.99  £5.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB08

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAB09 1:72 Re-release! Douglas A-4E / A-4F Skyhawk  £6.99  £5.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB09
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on December 05, 2014, 01:07:34 pm
Hannants have put a load more Hasegawa stuff into their sale, some at half price. I've highlighted some of the particularly interesting or good VFM ones, but there are more than this:

1/72nd OA-4M Skyhawk two-kits-in-a-box edition for £22:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA02083.jpg)http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02083


1/48th Jet-Shinden whiff-in-a-box for £33:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA09846.jpg)http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA09846


1/200th Boeing 737-200 two-kits-in-a-box edition for £16:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA10675.jpg)http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA10675


1/48th T.3 Junior motorcycle display team for £7:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAX4821.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAX4821


Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on December 06, 2014, 07:40:32 am
Mmmm....two seat Skyhawks....didn't somebody say they needed more T birds ?

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2014, 08:17:00 am
Mmmm....two seat Skyhawks....didn't somebody say they needed more T birds ?

 :thumbsup:

Hehe, I've already got a TA-4 thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on December 06, 2014, 08:33:19 am
Just happen to have my Hasegawa OA-4M in the cabinet which is the other side of my desk, still haven't got the decals on it though and I built it ten or more years ago

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/kitnut617/American%20Fighters/OA-4M_zps3f2eded7.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/kitnut617/media/American%20Fighters/OA-4M_zps3f2eded7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2014, 10:30:11 am
Just happen to have my Hasegawa OA-4M in the cabinet which is the other side of my desk, still haven't got the decals on it though and I built it ten or more years ago

Now don't go and rush things Robert.  :lol: ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on December 06, 2014, 11:00:53 am
Just happen to have my Hasegawa OA-4M in the cabinet which is the other side of my desk, still haven't got the decals on it though and I built it ten or more years ago

Now don't go and rush things Robert.  :lol: ;D

Who ? me ? 
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on December 10, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
I like the look of the V-22 in there with the A-4. What is the aircraft with the counter rotating props under it? A Tempest?

Hawker P.1027 or the Tempest Mk.VII, it was to have the RR Eagle like what went into the Wyvern TF.1.  I've got a thread on here somewhere about it ---  I think it was one of my very first posts when I joined the forum.

EDIT:  actually it was my very first post --  ;D

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,11153.0/highlight,tempest+mk+vii.html

EDIT 2:  Well having a look at that,  it seems all I have is some links to other forums which are now all dead ---   :unsure:
 Try here, post #12

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,36649.0/highlight,hawker+p+1027.html
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on January 10, 2015, 08:04:52 am
F/A-18C & E twin pack on sale at Hannants. The sale price works out at £14 each which is in the realms of the reasonable:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA00981.jpg)http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA00981

F-4EJ for £8:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAC01.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC01


Full List (VFM is variable):



Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA00981 1:72 McDonnell-Douglas F/A-18C & Boeing F/A-18E Super Hornet 'VFA-27 Royal Maces History' (Two kits in the box)  WAS £40.84. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £27.22  £22.68
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA00981

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA01985 1:72 North-American Mustang Mk.III "RAF Combo" (Two kits in the box) WAS £37.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £25.33  £21.11
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01985

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA01989 1:72 Mitsubishi J2M3 RAIDEN TYPE 21 & A6M5c ZERO Fighter TYPE 52 HEI "352nd Flying Group" (Two kits in the box)  WAS £37.49. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £24.99  £20.82
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01989

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02007 1:72 North-American F-86D Sabre Dog 'Shark Teeth'  WAS £29.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £19.99  £16.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02007

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02077 1:72 Mitsubishi A6M3 Zero TYPE 2/32 Rabaul Combo (Two kits in the box)  WAS £31.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £21.33  £17.77
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02077

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02078 1:72 Focke-Wulf Fw 190A-8/D-9 Dortenmann Combo (Two kits in the box)  WAS £32.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £21.99  £18.32
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02078

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02090 1:72 Chinese J-11 Fighter  WAS £44.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £29.99  £24.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02090

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02099 1:72 Republic P-47D Thunderbolt Razorback/Bubbletop "Operation Overlord
(Two kits in the box)  WAS £32.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £21.99  £18.32
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02099

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02105 1:72 Mitsubishi T-2 CCV A.D.T.W.  WAS £24.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £16.66  £13.88
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02105

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA07369 1:48 Messerschmitt Bf 109E-7 Japanese Army  WAS £29.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £19.99  £16.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA07369

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAC01 1:72 McDonnell F-4EJ Phantom  WAS £11.75. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £7.83  £6.53
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC01

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAE17 1:72 North-American B-25H Mitchell  WAS £39.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £26.66  £22.22
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAE17

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HAPT051 1:48 McDonnell F-15J / F-15DJ Eagle JASDF  WAS £74.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!  £49.99  £41.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAPT051

Hasegawa
Ship kits, waterline hull (injection)
HA30034 1:700 German Submarine U-BOAT Type VIIC/IXC "U-Boat Aces"  WAS £19.99. TEMPORARILY SAVE 1/3RD!!!
 Type VIIC
1) German Navy U-201 Kapitänleutnant Adalbert Schnee
 2) German Navy U-552 Oberleutnant Erich Topp 7.U-Flotille
 Type IXC
1) German Navy U-68 Korvettenkapitän Karl-Friedrich Merten
2) German Navy U-172 Kapitänleutnant Carl Emmermann  £13.33  £11.11
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA30034
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 10, 2015, 09:27:55 am
<...>
F-4EJ for £8:
(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAC01.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC01
<...>

Be careful! This one's from an old tooling. Nowhere near as nice as the one from new moulds.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on January 10, 2015, 11:30:01 am
Be careful! This one's from an old tooling. Nowhere near as nice as the one from new moulds.

Oh I don't doubt it, but £8 is decent for any kind of Phantom-sized aircraft in 1/72nd these days.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on January 10, 2015, 02:48:01 pm
Be careful! This one's from an old tooling. Nowhere near as nice as the one from new moulds.

Oh I don't doubt it, but £8 is decent for any kind of Phantom-sized aircraft in 1/72nd these days.

That's true, and it will build into a decent replica which only lacks the finesse of the newer Hasegawa or Revell mouldings.

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on January 10, 2015, 04:24:37 pm
'the realm of reasonable'
I like it !

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Howard of Effingham on January 13, 2015, 07:55:22 am
Just happen to have my Hasegawa OA-4M in the cabinet which is the other side of my desk, still haven't got the decals on it though and I built it ten or more years ago

Now don't go and rush things Robert.  :lol: ;D

Who ? me ? 

and there's me feelin bad if I wait a fortnight after painting and gloss varnishing a model before decaling it.  ;D  :rolleyes:   ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 21, 2015, 04:40:56 pm
This doesn't seem unreasonable: £23 for a 1/72nd B-47. I'm sure it's an old tool and all that, but still...

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAK007.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAK007
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on February 22, 2015, 02:15:46 am
This doesn't seem unreasonable: £23 for a 1/72nd B-47. I'm sure it's an old tool and all that, but still...

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAK007

Hasegawa only did one set of moulds for this aircraft which may be the only injection kit of this aircraft.

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on February 22, 2015, 02:27:58 am
I was feeling underwhelmed by the thought of a B-47 and then I found these pictures;
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/XB-47-1_300.jpg)
(http://www.startrekunity.com/images/stevecanyon/interceptx.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Boeing_B-47B_rocket-assisted_take_off_on_April_15,_1954_061024-F-1234S-011.jpg)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH RATO BABY!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: JayBee on February 22, 2015, 03:22:14 am
may be the only injection kit of this aircraft.


FROG did one, many years ago, in 1/207scale. It did not have any undercarriage.

Jim
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Thorvic on February 22, 2015, 06:09:19 am
Hobbycraft did it in 1/144 along with the B-36, no idea on its current status however
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on February 22, 2015, 07:13:43 am
I love those photo of RATO assisted take offs  :wub:

Did Frog rebox the Hasegawa B-47 or am I having a wrong memory afternoon
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on February 22, 2015, 07:27:20 am
may be the only injection kit of this aircraft.


FROG did one, many years ago, in 1/207scale. It did not have any undercarriage.

Jim

Big Book says:

Allyn 1/146 (50's desktop)
Aurora 1/180 (reboxed by Marusan)
Comet 1/205 (reboxed by Aurora, Comet Series, Frog, Kleeware, Tri-ang/France, Tri-ang/NZ)
Hasegawa 1/72 (reboxed by AMT, Frog, Minicraft)
Hobbycraft 1/144
Revell 1/185
YMC 1/130
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on February 22, 2015, 07:50:38 am
Good I was not mistaken - for once  ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 22, 2015, 10:23:03 am
Different boxings of the same moulds were going for £38 at Crewe today.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on February 22, 2015, 11:15:25 am
may be the only injection kit of this aircraft.


FROG did one, many years ago, in 1/207scale. It did not have any undercarriage.

Jim

Big Book says:

Allyn 1/146 (50's desktop)
Aurora 1/180 (reboxed by Marusan)
Comet 1/205 (reboxed by Aurora, Comet Series, Frog, Kleeware, Tri-ang/France, Tri-ang/NZ)
Hasegawa 1/72 (reboxed by AMT, Frog, Minicraft)
Hobbycraft 1/144
Revell 1/185
YMC 1/130

Glad to know I was wrong, would be nice to see a new moulding though

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: JayBee on February 22, 2015, 11:37:47 am
I had a sneaking suspicion that the old FROG one was a re-box of the Comet one.
The others that I remember, and these may not have been Comet, were:

B-66
P2V Neptune
C-119
Short Sealand
DHC-2 Beaver
DH Dragon Rapide, I have still got that one in a built and unpainted condition!

Alistair, I think you may be too young to remember these.  :rolleyes:

Jim
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 22, 2015, 02:07:30 pm
I've got a FROG re-box of the Hasegawa moulding, which dates it of course, but it's still quite crisp.

I've been building it into an RB-47H for some years using the DB Models resin upgrade (same as the current Flightpath conversion) I want to add the big 'Silver King' pod hung on the starboard side, but have yet to decide what to make it from.

There's a fair amount if upgrade stuff available for the kit, mostly by Pavla, so it's good but not cheap.

(http://img661.imageshack.us/img661/2748/DQMl7F.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on February 22, 2015, 02:30:20 pm

I've been building it into an RB-47H for some years using the DB Models resin upgrade (same as the current Flightpath conversion) I want to add the big 'Silver King' pod hung on the starboard side, but have yet to decide what to make it from.


I've got one of those DB conversions too Kit --- that big pod looks like an F-101 fuel tank --- edit; actually, maybe an early C-130 tank, the smaller one
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on February 22, 2015, 02:35:15 pm
RB-47 eh ?

Don't think I've ever heard of that one ! Love all them lumps and bumps. I've got that box scale one as well as the Hasegawa example. One of those would be interesting !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: rickshaw on February 22, 2015, 04:29:35 pm
I've heard of the RB-47 but not of the pod.  What did it contain?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on February 22, 2015, 06:39:14 pm
Google it in the image search...loads of great models built and info on it, some cut aways etc.



http://www.modelingmadness.com/others/features/rb47details/Antennas.jpg
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 23, 2015, 02:29:31 am
IIRC there were only three RB-47Hs built and the same number of Silver King pods, but they didn't carry the pod on every mission.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on February 23, 2015, 03:56:38 am
I had a sneaking suspicion that the old FROG one was a re-box of the Comet one.
The others that I remember, and these may not have been Comet, were:

B-66
P2V Neptune
C-119
Short Sealand
DHC-2 Beaver
DH Dragon Rapide, I have still got that one in a built and unpainted condition!

Alistair, I think you may be too young to remember these.  :rolleyes:

Jim

Jim, I do realise that I have to bear the cross of youth compared to yourself although some of our ranks are in that situation with regard to me  ;D

Gondor aka Alastair
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: JayBee on February 23, 2015, 04:16:00 am
IIRC there were only three RB-47Hs built and the same number of Silver King pods, but they didn't carry the pod on every mission.

According to M.J. Bowers in the Putnam book, 32 RB-47H's were built.
3 ERB-47H's were converted from B-47E's.
All were used for "special" reconnaissance missions.

jim
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 23, 2015, 06:19:56 am
Ah right, I knew there was a 'three' involved in there somewhere.  ;D

I have a large tome on the B-47 'filed away' in the chaos that is my house, I'll have to dig it out. I dug the part built (VERY part....) RB-47H kit out of its hiding place this morning and it reminded me just how far the plastic modelling business has progressed in the last 40 yrs or so. Basic it certainly is! I may shell out for some of those Pavla upgrades, the cockpit interior and the massive canopy could certainly do with some attention.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: famvburg on February 23, 2015, 06:29:31 am
My first thought of the pod was a T-33 tip tank. Maybe a 1/48 scale one.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on April 30, 2015, 08:18:03 pm
Hannants have the Hase F-106A at a very reasonable £7.99 at the moment:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAC11.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAC11
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kerick on April 30, 2015, 09:14:00 pm
I need one of those for another century series update.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 30, 2015, 09:39:51 pm
Oh my life, one of those is heading my way for sure!  :thumbsup:

I've only ever had one Six, and I've been hoarding it against the chance that someone will produce it more cheaply than the recent diabolical Hase prices. And now they have.  ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on May 01, 2015, 03:22:58 am
Hmm, I've been wanting one for some time, but never found one at a reasonable price.  Very tempted.....
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on May 01, 2015, 03:28:07 am
I have one of these and given the age of the moulds (as evidenced by the preponderance of raised detail - all of which will be lost during PSR to fill the gaps) they may be overcharging.
But what choice do you have?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 01, 2015, 12:04:49 pm

But what choice do you have?


None, it's the only 1/72 Six there is.

I bet Meng will do one before much longer, but it'll be 3-4 times the price.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on May 01, 2015, 12:47:51 pm
I have one of these and given the age of the moulds (as evidenced by the preponderance of raised detail - all of which will be lost during PSR to fill the gaps) they may be overcharging.
But what choice do you have?


I've just read a few build reviews of the kit and it seems that it fits very well: every one of them has said they didn't need any filler and it was a pleasure to build. I did one when I was a kid and as far as I remember it went together very nicely.

And honestly, these days, £8 is a pretty decent price for any large jet fighter.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: scooter on May 01, 2015, 01:08:22 pm
I've just read a few build reviews of the kit and it seems that it fits very well: every one of them has said they didn't need any filler and it was a pleasure to build. I did one when I was a kid and as far as I remember it went together very nicely.

That it was.  My double delta Delta Dart (F-106G or F-38A Phoenix, still trying to decide even after all this time) went together beautifully, the missile bay doors, IIRC, have a closed option, and the transparency makes for a wonderful bubble canopy.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on May 01, 2015, 01:53:04 pm

But what choice do you have?


None, it's the only 1/72 Six there is.

I bet Meng will do one before much longer, but it'll be 3-4 times the price.

But it will be 3-4 times the quality though

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 01, 2015, 02:31:40 pm

But what choice do you have?


None, it's the only 1/72 Six there is.

I bet Meng will do one before much longer, but it'll be 3-4 times the price.

But it will be 3-4 times the quality though

Gondor

Maybe,

But I'm not sure I'd be prepared to pay that,  especially as any model I made from it would more than likely be Whiffed into oblivion, and for that I might as well use the Hase version.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kerick on May 01, 2015, 06:19:19 pm
My thoughts too. I would rather have several simpler kits at lower prices than one expensive one.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on May 01, 2015, 06:51:28 pm
...the missile bay doors, IIRC, have a closed option...

I just went and checked - they don't.  Not on the sprues packed in the F102/F106 double kit anyway.  Maybe after the 102 they learnt and made the separate parts a better fit into the hole if you tried to model them closed?
My comments regarding parts fit were based on the presumption it'd be as bad as on the 102 I am currently sanding the heck out of.

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on May 02, 2015, 01:15:12 am

But what choice do you have?


None, it's the only 1/72 Six there is.

I bet Meng will do one before much longer, but it'll be 3-4 times the price.

But it will be 3-4 times the quality though

Gondor

Maybe,

But I'm not sure I'd be prepared to pay that,  especially as any model I made from it would more than likely be Whiffed into oblivion, and for that I might as well use the Hase version.

For whiff purposes I agree, I do however build the occasional real world aircraft which is what I would buy the more expensive and detailed kit for with the older and poorer detailed kits being moved to the whiff fodder pile

Gondor
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on May 02, 2015, 01:30:24 pm
I've never seen the logic in that argument, although I've told myself that I'd use the Skybirds Hornets for real ones with Frog/Novo ones for whiffing.  As for by that argument, you'd use the old horrid tool Airfix Defiant for a whif but the nw tool for just real world, despite the latter being a million times better in terms of shape, accuracy and fit.

Surely you'd want to use the best outline/accurate/fitting kitl to do what you want, irrespective of whif or real?.  All kits are replaceable, albeit with price differencials.  I'm as happy using a CMR Spitfire for a whif as for a real world build.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on May 02, 2015, 09:43:37 pm
depends on the whiff doesn't it?

If I am setting out to do a paint only whiff or a subtle mod that might have existed (like a Merlin Blenheim or a car-door hurricane) then i'll want a decent kit to start with if i can.
If on the other hand I an going completely nuts (sky pirate dirigible with B-17 gondola) or just using a kit for a few parts for a kit bash (Yak 9 wings onto Helldiver fuselage) then given there is likely to be mass PSR a simpler kit will do.

Title: Re: Hasegawa 1/700 JMSDF Izumo
Post by: Thorvic on May 14, 2015, 11:48:09 pm
Hasegawa have shown their new 1/700 DDM 183 Izumo, - DDH it isn't its a full blown Helicopter carrier that could be reconfigured to operate F-35 STOVL aircraft if required. At 248m its larger than the Italian Cavour and makes an Invincible look pokey !!

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10321583 (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10321583)

Good for JMSDF modellers but also handy as a basis for a medium sized STOVL carrier, Invincible's being in the small category and Queen Elizabeth's in the Large so a possible handy kit 1/700 warship whiffers   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on May 15, 2015, 08:03:15 pm
Now there's a cool looking ship. And it is big ! Comes with a nice selection of bits too.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on May 20, 2015, 08:50:40 pm
Hannants have a load of Hasegawa stuff which they say they won't be able to order again once it's gone:

https://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?adv=1&product_category_id=102&product_division_id=&manufacturer_id=8042&product_type_id=&code=&scale_id=&keyword_search=&setPerPage=75&sort=stock&search_direction=asc&save_search_name=&save_search

Some of it is discounted to reasonable prices, for example, this 1/72nd F-16C for £6.99 (only two left in stock):

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAB02.jpg)
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAB02

They've also got Lightnings, Mirage F.1s, A-7s, Kfirs and X-29s at the same price, plus loads of WWII stuff too.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: The Wooksta! on May 21, 2015, 01:46:35 pm
Most of them still vastly overpriced...
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on May 21, 2015, 06:19:37 pm
Most of them still vastly overpriced...

It varies. F-16s, Lightnings, Mirage F.1s, A-7s, Kfirs, X-29s and a whole bunch of WWII fighters are hardly overpriced at seven quid, and some of the weapon sets are £7.50. Sort the list by price and there's 44 aircraft or aircraft accessory kits for under a tenner.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 22, 2015, 01:21:00 am
Is a Hasegawa Lightning only half as good as an Airfix one though?

Er, no, maybe only a THIRD as good.  ;D :lol:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on May 22, 2015, 02:19:51 am
Is a Hasegawa Lightning only half as good as an Airfix one though?

Er, no, maybe only a THIRD as good.  ;D :lol:

I was told by my old LMS owner the old Hasegawa Lightning was the from the Frog moulds
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 22, 2015, 02:57:09 am
Is a Hasegawa Lightning only half as good as an Airfix one though?

Er, no, maybe only a THIRD as good.  ;D :lol:

I was told by my old LMS owner the old Hasegawa Lightning was the from the Frog moulds

IIRC it was the other way round.

Hasegawa did it first, FROG got a licence do mould it in the UK and it got so popular they made a new set of moulds from the Hasegawa supplied originals. It's mentioned in the FROG book, but needless to say I can't find my copy.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on May 22, 2015, 03:04:50 am
Most of them still vastly overpriced...

It varies. F-16s, Lightnings, Mirage F.1s, A-7s, Kfirs, X-29s and a whole bunch of WWII fighters are hardly overpriced at seven quid, and some of the weapon sets are £7.50. Sort the list by price and there's 44 aircraft or aircraft accessory kits for under a tenner.

I had a good look (cheers for the link) and for my interests Lee is right however others are luckier, so swings and roundabouts
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on August 12, 2015, 04:08:49 pm
Lumpy Orion (at the usual ridiculous price unfortunately):

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA02140.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02140

Here's an interesting variation on the "how to not do swastikas" theme:
(also how not to price two tiny model kits  :rolleyes:)

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA02144.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02144

and again:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA07400.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA07400


What If JASDF F-35A:

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA02148.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02148


Whole bunch of aircraft in various anniversary special schemes:


Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02141 1:72 Mitsubishi F-2B JASDF 60TH Anniversary  £27.99  £23.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02141

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02142 1:72 Kawasaki T-4 JASDF 60TH Anniversary Part 2" (Two kits in the box)  £34.99  £29.16
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02142

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02145 1:72 McDonnell F-15J Eagle JASDF 60TH Anniversary Part 3  £29.99  £24.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02145

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02147 1:72 McDonnell F-4EJ Phantom JASDF 60th Anniversary  £32.99  £27.49
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02147

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02150 1:72 Lockheed P2V-7 Neptune "VSA" JMSDF  £49.99  £41.66
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02150

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02152 1:72 Grumman F-14A/B Tomcat "VF-74 Be-Devilers Adversary"  £39.99  £33.33
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02152

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02153 1:72 McDonnell F-15J Eagle 204Sqn 50th Anniversary  £29.99  £24.99
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02153



Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA02161 1:72 McDonnell F-4EJ KAI Phantom II "302SQ 40TH Anniversary"  £36.99  £30.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02161

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA60510 Mitsubishi F-2 J.A.S.D.F. 60TH Anniversary Eggplane (Two kits in the box)  £24.99  £20.83
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA60510

Hasegawa
Aircraft kits (injection)
HA60511 F-15 Eagle JASDF 60TH Anniversary Part 2 Eggplane (Two kits in the box)  £22.99  £19.16
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA60511



Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: McGreig on August 12, 2015, 05:25:18 pm
Here's an interesting variation on the "how to not do swastikas" theme:
(also how not to price two tiny model kits  :rolleyes:)

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HA02144.jpg)
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA02144

I'm usually relatively relaxed about Hasegawa prices. If you're prepared to pay £15/16 for an AZ IK-3, Seafang or Wildcat, or @ £16 for an RS Ki-61, Re-2005 or MB-152, then an effective price per kit of £15 - £19 for the Combo boxed Ki-27, Mc-202, Me-262 or Yak-3 etc doesn't seem unreasonable.

However, I may have to make an exception here :rolleyes:

The Hasegawa I-153 is a reboxed ICM kit and Hannants are selling the ICM original (catalogue ICM72074) for £7.99!  :wacko:  And InScale and Kora - also at Hannants - produce Finnish decals for £6.60 and £7.60 respectively.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 13, 2015, 07:30:29 am

The Hasegawa I-153 is a reboxed ICM kit and Hannants are selling the ICM original (catalogue ICM72074) for £7.99!  :wacko:  And InScale and Kora - also at Hannants - produce Finnish decals for £6.60 and £7.60 respectively.

Are you sure ? They've had one in their catalogue for an age. Long before we could get ICM kits I'm sure.

I just find their (or the importers) pricing ridiculous. The He 51 must be 40 years old and shows it. Yet in a dual combo boxing it goes for £23.49 and as a singleton for £13.98 ! I've two in the stash that I probably paid a couple of quid for back in day
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 13, 2015, 07:45:51 am
Is it Hasegawa themselves who are being pigheaded and greedy, or their importers?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 13, 2015, 07:53:22 am
I'm told it's the importers, a few have told me that, and indeed I've bought Hasegawa in the US in the past at far better prices then in the UK
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 13, 2015, 08:01:55 am
I suspected as much. There's someone who does NOT know the business they're in........
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: McGreig on August 13, 2015, 09:27:07 am
The Hasegawa I-153 is a reboxed ICM kit
Are you sure ? They've had one in their catalogue for an age. Long before we could get ICM kits I'm sure.

Positive - I've got one :rolleyes:

They once sold (mid Nineties, I think) the Heller/Smer kit in a Hasegawa box with a photo of the completed kit as box art and a small Smer logo in the top corner.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on August 13, 2015, 10:17:14 am
Is it Hasegawa themselves who are being pigheaded and greedy, or their importers?

Hobby Link Japan (LINK! (http://www.hlj.com/product/HSG02144/Air)) gives a list price of 3600 JPY, which is 18.54 GBP currently.

<...>
I just find their (or the importers) pricing ridiculous. The He 51 must be 40 years old and shows it. Yet in a dual combo boxing it goes for £23.49 and as a singleton for £13.98 ! I've two in the stash that I probably paid a couple of quid for back in day

Yeah, they were only a couple of quid back in the day, but then again, a quid was worth much more as well. And Hasegawa has to pay their employees in 2015 money, not in 1975 money.
It wouldn't surprise me if, in relation to previous wages/"commodity bundles"/"market baskets", prices of kits haven't increased a whole lot. Sure, the number on the price tags may be higher, but they will take the same bite out of your budget.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Librarian on August 13, 2015, 01:18:51 pm
Is it Hasegawa themselves who are being pigheaded and greedy, or their importers?

I regularly buy Hasegawa kits from Poland, kit and P&P being sometimes under half the cost here of just the kit. Really want to support our shops but you can't beat those prices.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 14, 2015, 07:01:54 am

Yeah, they were only a couple of quid back in the day, but then again, a quid was worth much more as well. And Hasegawa has to pay their employees in 2015 money, not in 1975 money.
It wouldn't surprise me if, in relation to previous wages/"commodity bundles"/"market baskets", prices of kits haven't increased a whole lot. Sure, the number on the price tags may be higher, but they will take the same bite out of your budget.

I know what you mean and maybe I'm being over hard on them. The how long do you have to work to buy something calculation is always an interesting one and I may well get down and do it. Take me back to work days  ;D I've done it before whilst at work a few times and it throws up some interesting answers and certainly came in handy whilst giving a presentation to customers on a few occasions  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Green Dragon on August 23, 2016, 11:42:13 pm
Hasegawa is releasing a new tool Kawanishi H8K2 "Emily" flying boat, yep you read that right, all new tooling, including crew figures. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10410642
UK price quoted as £56.77.
The old tool has been reissued in the Creator Works series. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10384216
Current UK price from Hobbysearch is £27.32

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 24, 2016, 07:01:14 am
For something the size of an Emily £56.77 doesn't sound a bad price, especially considering the price the importer charges for some 40 year old tools.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 24, 2016, 11:13:26 am
For something the size of an Emily £56.77 doesn't sound a bad price, especially considering the price the importer charges for some 40 year old tools.

Except that the similarly sized Italeri Sunderlands are around £40 UK price...........
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Captain Canada on August 24, 2016, 12:25:13 pm
I was thinking the same thing. And the Sunderland is a way cooler aeroplane  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on August 25, 2016, 06:03:30 am
For something the size of an Emily £56.77 doesn't sound a bad price, especially considering the price the importer charges for some 40 year old tools.

Except that the similarly sized Italeri Sunderlands are around £40 UK price...........

True
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: elmayerle on September 13, 2017, 11:05:07 am
And now for a bit of thread necromancy.

Hasegawa has released a limited edition of their excellent 1/72 V-22 molding (only good 1/72 one in my book, and I worked on them before retiring) in the markings of N204TR, the Bell-Boeing testbed (aka. ATTR for Advanced Techmology Tilt-Rotor) in the trial configuration for the air tanker demonstration.  Since I was intimately involved with this bird, I had to buy the kit.  Beautiful job on the markings decals, which would be a pain to otherwise, but they totally flubbed it on the experimental inlet on the LH nacelle (where I was intimately involved).  If you go for this variant, look for good pictures of that inlet because you'll need to scratchbuild it (good news is that the parts breakdown makes this relatively easy).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on February 10, 2018, 11:10:42 am
This is awfully tempting...

Hasegawa 1/48th T-3 Jrs display team set AND the Blue Impulse set both 3 x 'planes') currently discounted at Hannants.

T-3 :  £7.33 (2/3rds discount) https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAX4821
Blue Impulse : £8.65 (1/3 discount) https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAX4822

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAX4821.jpg?t=)

(https://www.1001modelkits.com/625864-large_product/hasegawa-36021-x48-21-t-3-jr-set-.jpg)

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HAX4822.jpg?t=)

(https://www.1001modelkits.com/625865-large_product/hasegawa-36022-x48-22-blue-impulse-jr-set.jpg)

Look what somebody on ARC did with these two sets  ;D :

(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10401-10500/gal10437-Furball-Elsberry/02.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: JayBee on February 10, 2018, 11:22:47 am
I have seen these two kits before but resisted the temptation.

That dio. is wonderfull>

Jim
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 10, 2018, 12:28:45 pm
Hehehehe, they're hilarious!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Nils on April 20, 2018, 11:59:40 pm
another Area 88 kit is to be released by Hasegawa in 1/72.
this time its the Nguyen's F-105 Thunderchief  :thumbsup:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1137633-hasegawa-64764-f-105d
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: strobez on April 21, 2018, 01:53:44 am
Yah! I've snatching these up as soon as they've hit the shelf. I'm still waiting on the F-8E and the A-10, but looking forward to this one for sure.

Does Hasegawa ever sell spare decal sets?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on April 21, 2018, 04:09:00 am
another Area 88 kit is to be released by Hasegawa in 1/72.
this time its the Nguyen's F-105 Thunderchief  :thumbsup:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1137633-hasegawa-64764-f-105d

The moulds for that are older than me.

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 21, 2018, 09:05:32 am
Awesome. I've been buying them as well but lost track after the Kfir because of money shortage.  ;D    I buy 'em from Tokyo Hobby because they have them priced very reasonably.

I still need:

                 Mickey Scymon F-14 1/72.
                 Shin Crusader  1/72
                 Shin X 29  1/72
                 Greg Gates A 10 1/72

I think that gets me caught up? They can keep the 1/48 ones.
               
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Nils on April 21, 2018, 09:31:34 am
Awesome. I've been buying them as well but lost track after the Kfir because of money shortage.  ;D    I buy 'em from Tokyo Hobby because they have them priced very reasonably.

I still need:

                 Mickey Scymon F-14 1/72.
                 Shin Crusader  1/72
                 Shin X 29  1/72
                 Greg Gates A 10 1/72

I think that gets me caught up? They can keep the 1/48 ones.
               

there's also Saki's Kfir in 1/72, it also comes with decals for his B-1B lancer (in scale 1/144 i think).
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: TheChronicOne on April 21, 2018, 09:51:11 am
Awesome. I've been buying them as well but lost track after the Kfir because of money shortage.  ;D    I buy 'em from Tokyo Hobby because they have them priced very reasonably.

I still need:

                 Mickey Scymon F-14 1/72.
                 Shin Crusader  1/72
                 Shin X 29  1/72
                 Greg Gates A 10 1/72

I think that gets me caught up? They can keep the 1/48 ones.
               

there's also Saki's Kfir in 1/72, it also comes with decals for his B-1B lancer (in scale 1/144 i think).
Got that one already along with Shin's F-20!  :mellow:   I said I was going to build that F-20 the moment it arrived but it's just been sitting around for months now along with the Kfir.  :rolleyes: ;D 

After I buy some tires for my vehicle and renew my insurance I'll most likely buy all the ones I'm missing in one whack. These things are like Pokemon.  :wacko:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 21, 2018, 03:39:38 pm
Not having a CLUE what 'Area 88' is I looked it up on Wiki.

My confidence in the stuff there was shaken when I find they list the Blackburn Buccaneer in the 'Fighter and Interceptor' types..........
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Rheged on April 22, 2018, 12:24:15 am
Not having a CLUE what 'Area 88' is I looked it up on Wiki.

My confidence in the stuff there was shaken when I find they list the Blackburn Buccaneer in the 'Fighter and Interceptor' types..........

Blackburn did suggest a fighter variant (the P.140), but this was one of the paper aeroplanes they offered as an initial proposal only.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on April 23, 2018, 06:40:32 am
Not having a CLUE what 'Area 88' is I looked it up on Wiki.

My confidence in the stuff there was shaken when I find they list the Blackburn Buccaneer in the 'Fighter and Interceptor' types..........

Blackburn did suggest a fighter variant (the P.140), but this was one of the paper aeroplanes they offered as an initial proposal only.

Ah but this is Area 88 we are talking about, so was it really only a proposal ?  :angel:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: scooter on April 23, 2018, 09:50:31 am
Not having a CLUE what 'Area 88' is I looked it up on Wiki.

My confidence in the stuff there was shaken when I find they list the Blackburn Buccaneer in the 'Fighter and Interceptor' types..........

Blackburn did suggest a fighter variant (the P.140), but this was one of the paper aeroplanes they offered as an initial proposal only.

Ah but this is Area 88 we are talking about, so was it really only a proposal ?  :angel:

 :thumbsup:

Considering I did an F-111K and J-79-powered Ford for A88... :wacko:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: strobez on July 31, 2018, 07:24:30 pm
The full list so far for the Hasegawa “Creators Series” featuring Kaoru Shintani’s Area 88 is:

1/48
Shin Kazama’s J35J Draken
Shin Kazam’s F-8E Crusader
Mickey Simon’s F-16 Tomcat
Greg Gates’ A-4M Skyhawk

1/72
Shin Kazama’s F-20 Tigershark
Saki Vashtahl’s Kfir C2
Shin Kazama’s X-29
Mickey Simon’s F-14 Tomcat
Shin Kazama’s J35J Draken
Greg Gates’ A-10 Thunderbolt II
Shin Kazama’s F-8E Crusader
Nguyen Van Chom’s F-105D Thunderchief
Kim Aba’s AV-8A Harrier (coming soon!)
Seiren Barnack's F-104G Starfighter (coming soon!) (update!)
Mickey Simon's F-100D Super Sabre (coming soon!) (update!)

Nothing following the Harrier has been announced yet, which makes me a bit worried since in the past the timeline between release and announcement has been a bit shorter.  I’m still hopeful we’ll at least get to see Siren’s F-104. That should be an easy one finish the set off since then all the main hero planes would be covered.  I’ll be disappointed if that one doesn’t cap the set.

The odds and ends ones I’m wishing, but not holding my breath, for are :

Gary MacBurn’s MiG-21
Papa Wolf’s MiG-27 (maybe as a MiG combo set!)
Mickey Simon’s F-100D  (yay! updated!)
Greg Gates (or Campbell’s) A-4M (even though Greg’s could be easily achieved with extra decals leftover from the A-10).

The one I’m wishing I could wish for is Roundell’s Bucanneer.  I doubt Hasegawa will borrow some molds from Revell or Airfix to get it done, but some professionally done decals of the pirate logo would be fantastic.

I’ve got all the 1/72 scale boxes released so far except the Crusader.  That one strangely didn’t make it onto the shelf in Seoul. I wonder if the fact that it comes stocked with a resin figure had anything to do with that.  Of course both the Crusader and the Thunderchief are “for the decals” purchases since the Academy and Trumpeter offerings (respectively) are far superior.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: strobez on July 31, 2018, 07:25:41 pm
Oh, and the decals for Saki’s B-1 are 1/72 scale as well... I checked.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: strobez on September 07, 2018, 01:26:13 am

The odds and ends ones I’m wishing, but not holding my breath, for are :

Mickey Simon’s F-100D


Well, well, well... I stand corrected! and happily so.

It seems that Hasegawa is indeed going to go the whole way with this set.  They've just announced the F-104G Starfighter "Seiren Barnack" and the F-100D Super Sabre "Mickey Simon". Yay!

(https://www.1999.co.jp/itbig55/10557000b2.jpg)

(https://www.1999.co.jp/itbig55/10557009b2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on February 04, 2019, 12:00:44 am
1/72 Rosenbauer Panther 6x6
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10556923

I can see that whiffed into something like a Centaur.  If I get one though, it'll be real world.
 :wub: :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on April 09, 2019, 02:08:25 pm
According to hobby link Japan, Hasegawa are releasing a drone A-10 in 1/72nd scale, not many pictures of it, but I am sure it has plenty of wiff potential. Unless Hasegawa want ludicrous money for it of course.
Chris.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on April 10, 2019, 12:47:59 am
Unless Hasegawa want ludicrous money for it of course.
Chris.

Will the sun come in the morning ?

Seriously I'm convinced in the UK the silly prices, especially for some 40/50 year old re-pops is down to the importer. But as I said about the SH Sunderland price is always relative and down to the individual to decide if it's value for money.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Scotaidh on April 10, 2019, 01:51:12 am
Unless Hasegawa want ludicrous money for it of course.
Chris.

<snip>
 But as I said about the SH Sunderland price is always relative and down to the individual to decide if it's value for money.

Always is - that's the philosophy behind e-Vil-Bay, I reckon.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: king of men on April 10, 2019, 09:16:21 pm
Not sure it's all down to the UK importer. The US MSRPs are pretty stiff too.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on April 10, 2019, 09:47:35 pm
Not sure it's all down to the UK importer. The US MSRPs are pretty stiff too.

Which are down to the US importer.  :rolleyes:

Unlike Tamiya, Hasegawa does not have a corporate presence outside of Japan,
local prices are set by local distributors.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: AS.12 on April 11, 2019, 12:04:13 am
Which are down to the US importer.  :rolleyes:

I think you can only state that with certainty if you know the actual wholesale prices.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on April 11, 2019, 06:28:26 am

I think you can only state that with certainty if you know the actual wholesale prices.

True and that's very difficult to find out. You could get the monthly HM Customs import data and as long as you know the tariff they are coming in on work it out providing the supplementary unit is number of units, as the main unit will be weight I think. I spent years going through the steel section of the tariff  (Chapter 72  :rolleyes:) but it may well have changed since I retired.

I must admit I've always found US prices to be far better then what was current in the UK at the time, but that could have been a function of the exchange rate, or at least may have been part of the reason. I don't think they'd be cheaper with the current rate.

   
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on April 11, 2019, 08:57:01 am
No tariffs on the toy category that model kitsets fall under, per international
agreements.

As to the wholesale price factor, well when your local retail price
is double the Japanese domestic retail price that looks like an unlikely
cause for the delta. Ditto freight costs.
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on April 12, 2019, 05:37:58 am
I went to HLJ.com to compare Hasegawa prices.
That was a mistake as I ended up sticking a 1/72 Skyraider into my Private Warehouse.
D'oh!

Only $17 though  - bargain!

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on April 12, 2019, 06:10:21 am
No tariffs on the toy category that model kitsets fall under, per international
agreements.

As to the wholesale price factor, well when your local retail price
is double the Japanese domestic retail price that looks like an unlikely
cause for the delta. Ditto freight costs.
 :rolleyes:

I was only familiar with Chapters 72 and 73 Jon  :angel:

I do remember checking the Japanese retail price before Telford once so I could have a conversation with the then importers. Needless to say they didn't want to discuss it.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 12, 2019, 08:24:44 am

I do remember checking the Japanese retail price before Telford once so I could have a conversation with the then importers. Needless to say they didn't want to discuss it.


I'll bet they didn't, greedy gits!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 03:49:11 am
Hannants are clearing this set of old glider models for a tenner:

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HASP349

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/HASP349.jpg?t=)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2019, 06:33:40 am
Never seen those before now
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on June 10, 2019, 09:56:09 pm
I have the Skylark, very basic.  :thumbsup:

Two piece fuselage, canopy, belly roller, wings (each is a one-piece moulding),
horizontal stabilizers. That's it.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Mossie on June 11, 2019, 01:50:27 am
Cheap fodder for 1/72 longer wings?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 11, 2019, 04:57:53 am

Cheap fodder for 1/72 longer wings?


Funny you should say that.........................[evil grin emoticon]
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on June 11, 2019, 06:17:45 am
I have the Skylark, very basic.  :thumbsup:

Two piece fuselage, canopy, belly roller, wings (each is a one-piece moulding),
horizontal stabilizers. That's it.
 :thumbsup:

Now until you posted that Jon I thought that picture was of one box, in which you got all 3 kits. I can remember boxing's like that from back in the day. I assume from your post they are 3 individual boxings' ?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on June 11, 2019, 12:58:47 pm
I have the Skylark, very basic.  :thumbsup:

Two piece fuselage, canopy, belly roller, wings (each is a one-piece moulding),
horizontal stabilizers. That's it.
 :thumbsup:

Now until you posted that Jon I thought that picture was of one box, in which you got all 3 kits. I can remember boxing's like that from back in the day. I assume from your post they are 3 individual boxings' ?
That's the 3-in-1 combo boxing, I got mine a few years back as a single.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2019, 03:10:44 am
HLJ sent me a link to this F-111 in a rather attractive scheme.
(https://hlj.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/700x700/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/h/s/hsg02300_0.png)
https://hlj.com/1-72-scale-ef-111a-raven-electric-fox-hsg02300?utm_source=adroll&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=left_site_1hr_scale

(https://hlj.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/700x700/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/h/s/hsg02300_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Gondor on June 12, 2019, 04:55:17 am
I have the Skylark, very basic.  :thumbsup:

Two piece fuselage, canopy, belly roller, wings (each is a one-piece moulding),
horizontal stabilizers. That's it.
 :thumbsup:

Now until you posted that Jon I thought that picture was of one box, in which you got all 3 kits. I can remember boxing's like that from back in the day. I assume from your post they are 3 individual boxings' ?

But would we all fit in it?

Gondor............... exiting stage left
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2019, 05:46:53 am
I have the Skylark, very basic.  :thumbsup:

Two piece fuselage, canopy, belly roller, wings (each is a one-piece moulding),
horizontal stabilizers. That's it.
 :thumbsup:

Now until you posted that Jon I thought that picture was of one box, in which you got all 3 kits. I can remember boxing's like that from back in the day. I assume from your post they are 3 individual boxings' ?
That's the 3-in-1 combo boxing, I got mine a few years back as a single.  :thumbsup:

Thanks for clearing that up Jon. Glad I wasn't going barmy, no more than normal anyway  :angel:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Nils on September 26, 2019, 01:58:44 am
Another UAV WHIf has been revealed by Hasegawa, this time its an unmanned Mi-24 Hind  :mellow:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/hasegawa-02317-mi-24-hind-uav--1242878

(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/8/7/8/1242878-11991-30-pristine.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 27, 2019, 07:05:23 am
In 2008, Russia took the unprecedented step of modifying old Mi-24D Hinds into Autonomously Piloted Assault Transports:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Q24D.jpg)

Regards,

Greg

Only took them eleven years!  :drink:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: elmayerle on September 27, 2019, 03:56:19 pm
HLJ sent me a link to this F-111 in a rather attractive scheme.
(https://hlj.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/700x700/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/h/s/hsg02300_0.png)
https://hlj.com/1-72-scale-ef-111a-raven-electric-fox-hsg02300?utm_source=adroll&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=left_site_1hr_scale

(https://hlj.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/700x700/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/h/s/hsg02300_1.jpg)
If memory serves me correctly, that's the first aircraft, painted up all nice and pretty for PR purposes as much as anything else.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: scooter on September 27, 2019, 05:13:36 pm
Purty.  Looks like either the Tomcat or Intruder on the Intrepid (i.e. something *other* than gray)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 28, 2019, 10:58:09 am
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/product_g/wm07/

(http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/hsite/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/wm07.jpg)

https://youtu.be/tb63PdPweDc
 ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 28, 2019, 11:01:15 am
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/gsite/
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on September 29, 2019, 05:41:45 am
Odd looking beast. What's it used to harvest, rice ?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Old Wombat on September 29, 2019, 06:20:46 am
Odd looking beast. What's it used to harvest, rice ?

 ;D ;D ;D This was asked elsewhere (BtS) & the response was "Zombies!" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 29, 2019, 11:14:24 am
Maybe it could be used to harvest mountains of weed?  Ahhhhh...    ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: joncarrfarrelly on September 29, 2019, 01:26:16 pm
Yep, it's a rice combine, now Hasegawa need to do its companion rice transplanter.  ;D

(https://www.yanmar.com/media/news/2018/12/AT-01.jpg)

The full-size image is 7360X 4912.  ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: TheChronicOne on September 29, 2019, 02:20:21 pm
If someone were to ask me what that was I would never have guessed in a million years! 
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Weaver on September 29, 2019, 07:26:27 pm
I'd have guessed it was Rick Wakeman's golf cart...
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Post by: Mossie on September 29, 2019, 11:22:23 pm
I'd have guessed it was Rick Wakeman's golf cart...

Not as funky, but there is a tractor to partner it:
https://www.plazajapan.com/4967834660052/
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: NARSES2 on September 30, 2019, 06:50:11 am
If someone were to ask me what that was I would never have guessed in a million years!

Nor me, that is truly weird.

Looks like something from the "Anime" or whatever they call it universes. Looking at it carefully I can just about figure out how it works, but part of me expects to see it racing around Suzuka ?
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on October 01, 2019, 04:47:58 am
Click on the pic and look at the tyres full size.  They are wild.
It looks to me like something made up from a modellers spare parts box after all the good spare parts have been used.
Or, something from Wacky Races' Prof Pat Pending after the LSD incident... :o
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on October 01, 2019, 06:46:06 am
Click on the pic and look at the tyres full size.  They are wild.

I would imagine they're designed to work in flooded fields and mud.  Have you ever seen the swamp racers used in the deep US south, very tall skinny wheels just like those, but bigger diameter.


Now I had wondered where the wheels and tires came from, I couldn't imagine they were custom made just for a few racers.

(http://village.photos/images/user/8f3973c9-3f0e-4b54-80e2-017121c0bf9f/4e258fcc-6f99-4bb4-aef1-c3092a8595f8.jpg)
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Dizzyfugu on October 02, 2019, 02:45:35 am
IIRC, these are so-called "(Rice) Paddy Tires" - more or less standard equipment for vehicles operated in flooded rice fields and similar wet enironments, frequently seen in Asia. Some of these can be very narrow, almost like discs!
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: chrisonord on October 02, 2019, 05:35:36 am
IIRC, these are so-called "(Rice) Paddy Tires" - more or less standard equipment for vehicles operated in flooded rice fields and similar wet enironments, frequently seen in Asia. Some of these can be very narrow, almost like discs!
And the rednecks like putting 1000 horsepower through them ;D :wacko:
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 02, 2019, 10:26:26 am
IIRC, these are so-called "(Rice) Paddy Tires" - more or less standard equipment for vehicles operated in flooded rice fields and similar wet enironments, frequently seen in Asia. Some of these can be very narrow, almost like discs!
And the rednecks like putting 1000 horsepower through them ;D :wacko:

Don't they always? ;D
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on October 03, 2019, 03:23:18 am
IIRC, these are so-called "(Rice) Paddy Tires" - more or less standard equipment for vehicles operated in flooded rice fields and similar wet enironments, frequently seen in Asia. Some of these can be very narrow, almost like discs!
And the rednecks like putting 1000 horsepower through them ;D :wacko:

I have no problem with that.  It looks like fun.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: kitnut617 on October 03, 2019, 07:33:32 am
IIRC, these are so-called "(Rice) Paddy Tires" - more or less standard equipment for vehicles operated in flooded rice fields and similar wet enironments, frequently seen in Asia. Some of these can be very narrow, almost like discs!
And the rednecks like putting 1000 horsepower through them ;D :wacko:

I have no problem with that.  It looks like fun.

Do a search of swamp buggy racing Fred ---- When Speed Channel was still around, they would show it on TV.
Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: zenrat on October 04, 2019, 06:29:25 am
IIRC, these are so-called "(Rice) Paddy Tires" - more or less standard equipment for vehicles operated in flooded rice fields and similar wet enironments, frequently seen in Asia. Some of these can be very narrow, almost like discs!
And the rednecks like putting 1000 horsepower through them ;D :wacko:

I have no problem with that.  It looks like fun.

Do a search of swamp buggy racing Fred ---- When Speed Channel was still around, they would show it on TV.

I've seen it.  Hence my comment.  I  am a keen observer of all the weird and obscure forms of motorsport.
Just today I was thinking about Unimotorcycle racing. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YHMUYIUPdY)

Title: Re: Hasegawa
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 04, 2019, 08:27:44 pm
Now that's just nuts - but they do look like thy're having fun.