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Picture Post => Current and Finished Projects => Topic started by: Brian da Basher on December 06, 2005, 06:27:44 AM

Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 06, 2005, 06:27:44 AM
Here's a cool Me 109 whif I saw at the Three Rivers IPMS (my hometown chapter) site. Enjoy!

Brian da Basher
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 06, 2005, 06:29:17 AM
Here's the second pic. The Three Rivers IPMS site is http://www.threeriversipms.org/blog/ (http://www.threeriversipms.org/blog/) . I'd join, but they have their meetings at 7 and I work until 8. :( Anyway, I hope you enjoy this neat little bit of whiffery!

Brian da Basher
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2005, 09:02:34 AM
Nice idea indeed! With better turn rate and an old-fashion look... :)
Just one note: isn't the area of each wing on a biplane smaller than the area of a corresponding monoplane? (theoritically, but what-ifism does not care, I agree)
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: cthulhu77 on December 06, 2005, 09:04:51 AM
You just have to love that 'ol lozenge camo...neat idea, would have been one hell of a barnstormer !
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Scooterman on December 06, 2005, 09:33:10 AM
Hey Brian, you live near 'da 'burgh?  Where at?  
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 06, 2005, 07:35:12 PM
Scooterman, I actually live in the city...Shadyside/Friendship...and I've got the gouge in my paycheck from the Occupation Tax to prove it! If you like good Belgian beer and pizza, I know the perfect place.

As to the wing areas on each biplane wing being smaller than those on a monoplane of similar size, that is indeed correct. There's some sort of aeronautical formula for determining the necessary wing area, but I'm too much of a peasant to be able to quote it.

Brian da Basher in da Burgh
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2005, 08:13:14 PM
Just to understand: does Burgh means Pittsburg, USA, or Edimburgh, Scotland, UK, or else? :) I leave near Bourg (French pronounced as the English Burgh), the World is so small! ^_^  
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 06, 2005, 10:12:23 PM
Tophe I just knew we had something in common for I too am a fellow 'Burgher! In this case, da Burgh is Pittsburgh, PA in the U.S. (third notch in the Rust Belt before Cleveland, OH and Gary, IN).

Brian da Basher in da Burgh
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: lancer on December 07, 2005, 07:03:21 AM
I always wondered what WW2 German aircraft would look like in that lovely lozenge caoom. I guess I know now....stunning.
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Scooterman on December 07, 2005, 07:04:05 AM
QuoteScooterman, I actually live in the city...Shadyside/Friendship...and I've got the gouge in my paycheck from the Occupation Tax to prove it! If you like good Belgian beer and pizza, I know the perfect place.


Brian da Basher in da Burgh
My hometown is south of you-Canonsburg.  Home of Sarris' Chocolate!  

I know that pizza place you're talkin about but can't think of the name.

Been craving Primanti Brothers!

Don't ask how I ended up in Central Oregon........

GO STEELERS!



Brad missing da Burgh
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Tophe on December 07, 2005, 09:42:40 AM
QuoteDon't ask how I ended up in Central Oregon........
missing da Burgh
I am surprised. I remember when I was 12 years old, learning USA in geopraphy course: Pittsburgh was illustrated as the coal city: all dark, all grey, all sad, with smoke and dust only... Maybe that would explain the bright colours of the Bf 109 biplane: perhaps inhabitants there need badly colours... But why regretting to be in Oregon, that was presented as a forest paradise, close to British Columbia Heaven? Maybe my memories are a little blurred, sorry... ;)  
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: K5054NZ on December 07, 2005, 12:24:46 PM
Nice 109 bipe. I like 109s, and I like bipes. Perfect combo!

I remember drawing a biplane Spitfire a few years ago...thought it was the pinnacle of cool... :rolleyes:  
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Scooterman on December 07, 2005, 01:41:35 PM
Quote
I am surprised. I remember when I was 12 years old, learning USA in geopraphy course: Pittsburgh was illustrated as the coal city: all dark, all grey, all sad, with smoke and dust only... Maybe that would explain the bright colours of the Bf 109 biplane: perhaps inhabitants there need badly colours... But why regretting to be in Oregon, that was presented as a forest paradise, close to British Columbia Heaven? Maybe my memories are a little blurred, sorry... ;)
Tophe-

Pittsburgh doesn't look that way now.  99% (or close to that) of the steel mills and coal mines are long gone.  You can fish the rivers in the area and not worry about getting some sort of toxic nasty.  Couldn't say that 20 years ago!

As for Oregon, yes it is very beautiful but I live in the middle of the state and it's 3 hours any direction to normal civilization.   :P

Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Allan on December 07, 2005, 06:59:15 PM
Thanks for the heads-up, Brian, that's truly a great Whif.

Luftwaffe stuff in lozenge--really makes your head spin, doesn't it?

Allan in Canberra
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Tophe on December 07, 2005, 08:24:49 PM
Glad to hear pleasant news from Pittsburgh Tourism Co.  :)
About an English fighter surprisingly biplane, do all of you know the Hurricane variant designed with a second plane, full of fuel, to increase duration in flight for night patrol if I remember? This extra wing could be jettisoned if the enemy appears, to produce the normal Hurricane, that explains why the low wing was 'as usual'. Maybe this Bf 109 would have been designed for a similar goal, despite its WW1-like camo (for fun :P )...
Title: Whifs invade Three Rivers IPMS
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 07, 2005, 09:37:41 PM
Ahhh Oregon...Scooterman you are living my dream. I spent many pleasant afternoons sipping microbrews on the patio at McMinamin's after browsing Powell's....but that's in Portland. I don't know if you've ever hiked the Columbia River Gorge (still north of you) but it's worth the trip!

Tophe my friend, it seems our thoughts often run on parallel tracks. When I first saw this Me-109 biplane what came to my mind was the Hurricane "slip wing" variant which was created for long-distance ferrying duty. The top "slip wing" was only used to get the aircraft airborne after being overloaded with fuel. Once at cruising altitude, the upper wing was jettisoned. Look out below!

Brian da Basher

P.S. The Belgian Beer/Pizza place I was alluding to is the Sharp Edge, a stone's throw from my tiny cottage. University of Pittsburgh alumni might have fond memories of Larry & Carol's Pizza, especially their stoner's special, Pizza Duo.