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General Modelling Forum => Tips, Tools, and Techniques => Topic started by: Allan on September 04, 2005, 05:54:16 PM

Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Allan on September 04, 2005, 05:54:16 PM
Hi blokes,

Yellow-what brand do you prefer and how do you paint it on?

I've had tonnes of trouble recently trying to put some yellow paint on the nose and wingtips of a German plane I'm making. Put on a thin coat and you're faced with putting on about 50 before it covers properly. Put it on thick to begin with and the surface detail goes poof!

Nothing seems to work properly with a brush and I've tried Humbrol gloss and Lifecolor German yellow. Even with a light blue undercoat.

A few years ago I used Testors flat white when I was having brushed white paint trouble. Maybe Testors flat yellow is the go.

Tips, please. Is Floquil yellow really the holy grail of yellow that I've been hearing about?

Allan in Canberra
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Captain Canada on September 04, 2005, 06:31:32 PM
I've used Tremclad rust paint before, gloss cost over a coat of flat white, with good results.

Spray is the only way, if you ask me !

:cheers:  
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Allan on September 04, 2005, 07:06:43 PM
Thanks, Todd.

That Testors flat white I referred to was in a rattle can and went on beautifuly, which leads me to think that the yellow may well perform in the same manner.

Has anyone tried Xtracolor enamel yellow with a brush?

Allan in Canberra
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Ollie on September 04, 2005, 07:45:57 PM
Here's what I do.

I prime the area to be painted in white red or yellow with Tamiya IJN Grey or RAF Sky.  Then I apply the white/yellow/red.  It works wonder!

:cheers:  
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Allan on September 04, 2005, 09:04:55 PM
Thanks Ol.

Actually, I primed with Humbrol flat light blue and the yellow still didn't cover properly.

What do you think about Xtracolor RLM yellow or Tamiya flat yellow instead?

Allan in Canberra
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: NARSES2 on September 04, 2005, 10:57:35 PM
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Has anyone tried Xtracolor enamel yellow with a brush?



Yes I have Al. Need a flat white/light grey undercoat and then a couple of coats, same with Tamiya acrylic but your'e right yellow is a absolute buuger.

Chris
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Allan on September 04, 2005, 11:09:06 PM
Chris,

Isn't it just? That and white and sometimes red. I wonder how Vallejo would go?

Allan in Canberra
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: nev on September 04, 2005, 11:58:09 PM
For white I use Halfords spray cans (obviously not available in Oz).  Don't know what their yellows are like.
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on September 05, 2005, 04:55:15 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/anju...cs/Mentor1g.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/anjusan/ij%20pics/Mentor1g.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/anju...Finnish109b.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/anjusan/ij%20pics/Finnish109b.jpg)

I use a Tamiya  (mixed) yellow (airbrush)  misted over a white base coat .

I did these a couple of years ago,and dont think the yellow hides the detail  especially on the mentor (its a really small kit) :wacko:

with hind sight  :dum: I could have done with a panel line wash on the 109 , just to pick out the detail .....preshading works for me these days.
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Ollie on September 05, 2005, 05:33:24 AM
I use all sorts of yellow, doesn't matter if it's Tamiya or Gunze, and they all go down as esily using my little primer.

:)  
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: lancer on September 05, 2005, 07:44:15 AM
If it's only a small yellow area, I tend to brush paint a couple of thin coats onto the area that needs to be painted, and I mainly use humbrol enamels  
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: TsrJoe on September 05, 2005, 08:03:17 AM
iv found the larger size (cheapo) Humbrol Gloss spray cans give good coverage, especially on top of a coat of matt white, heir yellow and red both being good!

car sprays again generally give ok coverage, most match 'standard' military shades too (eg 'trainer yellow')

hoping this helps, cheers, joe  
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Mike Wren on September 05, 2005, 08:16:24 AM
I use Halfords (Ford?) Broom Yellow aerosol over white primer, gives a good impression of the RAF & Canadian yellows for SAR helos
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: noxioux on September 06, 2005, 07:52:50 AM
The white base coat is the only way I've got yellow to work at all.  I have similar trouble with some of the bright red enamels, as well.

One thing from my meager experience with paint, there are some kinds of bases that just don't cover (in house paints, these are usually called "accent" bases).  A lot of bright custom colors use accent bases, and they are a real bear to get any coverage with, even with 4 or 5 coats.

I'm thinking that most of these paint manufacturers are using similar bases in order to get that yellow as bright as possible.  But if you use a flat white for an undercoat, it seems to work pretty well.
Title: Let's talk about yellow; so hard to paint
Post by: Allan on September 06, 2005, 09:16:07 PM
Thanks Noxioux and others.

I've some Polyscale flat Reefer white railroad paint (acrylic), so I might put down a thinned coat of thet and then some Lifecolor.

Allan in Canberra