Amazing what a welcome mat and some inspiration can produce........enjoy!
RAF Lightning F.6, Saudi Arabia 1991, Operation Granby.
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Chinese Peoples Liberation Army Air Force Shenyang J-77 Flashfin 1975.
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Israeli Air Force Lightning F.6, Siani 1979.
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Japanese Self Defence Force Air Force Lightning F.6 1989.
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Hope you like em! :P
Cheers
Richard.
Beautiful!!! B) I think I like the PLAAF one best. They're all great! :wub:
Keep'em coming...
:cheers: Bryan
PS: Any chance of some new what-if decals?!?!?! :)
*wipes drool away*
*whimpers*
:wub: :wub: :wub:
Never would have guessed the Lightining could look so good in so many different schemes...terrific stuff :)
Jeff G.
These look great! Non-NMF Lightnings are cool.
Those are some attractive birds. I particularly like the "Flashfin" idea.
So, is there a good 1/48 lighting kit readily available these days?
Well, I just ordered a bunch of Lightenings... IDF here I come!
QuoteThose are some attractive birds. I particularly like the "Flashfin" idea.
So, is there a good 1/48 lighting kit readily available these days?
Sure is noxioux, the 1/48th scale Airfix Lightning is a fantastic kit with really nice recessed panel lines and is very non-typical for an Airfix kit, its more like a 1980's Hasegawa kit as far as quality goes.
Get one.........or two.........or more, you won't be disappointed.
Richard.
QuoteBeautiful!!! B) I think I like the PLAAF one best. They're all great! :wub:
Keep'em coming...
:cheers: Bryan
PS: Any chance of some new what-if decals?!?!?! :)
I'm thinking of doing something.
With these profiles I'm trying to make them as 'doable' as possible by using decals from the spares box.
Stay tuned..............
QuoteQuoteBeautiful!!! B) I think I like the PLAAF one best. They're all great! :wub:
Keep'em coming...
:cheers: Bryan
PS: Any chance of some new what-if decals?!?!?! :)
I'm thinking of doing something.
With these profiles I'm trying to make them as 'doable' as possible by using decals from the spares box.
Stay tuned..............
Ah but what are you linning up decal wise as you have now sourced a ready market of What-Iffers for your more Alternative sheets. Be interesting using us lot as sounding box for a follow up to the RAAF/RAN Rafales.
Hmmn speaking of which no RAAF Lighnings ?
G
very nice indeed (and loved the starfighters from before too, BTW - stunning all).
Mikey Wren - you want to repost your series of killer lightning profiles here again for contrast / bonus heavy metal joy?
you'd like them richard, very cool indeed (like your own).
QuoteAh but what are you linning up decal wise as you have now sourced a ready market of What-Iffers for your more Alternative sheets. Be interesting using us lot as sounding box for a follow up to the RAAF/RAN Rafales.
Hmmn speaking of which no RAAF Lighnings ?
G
Hi Thorvic,
I will do some RAAF Lightning profiles soon, as for decals, I don' t know if you and everybody else on this board is aware or not, but we in the decal making business now have to get "permission" from the RAF and RAAF (I'm not sure about Canada or New Zealand?) to produce decals with their roundels and squadron crests on them now as they are "Copyrighted" and these "Corporate Organisations" that used to be our Armed Forces threaten "Legal Action" if such "permission" is not requested.
I don't know if the RAF and RAAF Brand Managers would give me the OK to be able to produce decal sheets of "What if?" aircraft/schemes in "their" markings, I haven't tried. Somehow I doubt it, and besides that its a process that quite frankly kills my imagination. I'm not particularly happy about the fact that if I come up with something "creative" and wish to create a decal sheet for us all to enjoy I first have to get "permission" off my own Air Force in order to be able to do it.
Let me assure you all that there is VERY little "money" to be made in the decal business and of that minuscule amount it is reduced even more for "What if?" subjects........I know Hannants is making a killing with their TSR.2 decals, and good luck to them.
But I did make sure I deleted my RAAF "What if" Rafale sheets as soon as I found out about this "new" legal situation. Threats of "Legal action" are something me and my family take very seriously as we are at the very low end of the socio economic ladder and fighting any kind of "Legal action" would quite quickly have us living on the streets.
Perhaps I could create a decal sheet of various RAAF Roo roundels, with permission of course, and release that, then release "What if?" sheets that have a black circle where the RAAF roundel should be and leave it up to the modeller to work out where to apply it?????? I don't know?
Any suggestions people??????
QuoteI don't know if the RAF and RAAF Brand Managers would give me the OK to be able to produce decal sheets of "What if?"
It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission. I say that in all seriousness. ;)
When governments do stupid things like this, it is the sworn duty of the people to do everything they can to thumb their nose at those frigging idiots.
Maybe you could be sneaky, and just charge "enough to cover the material cost", and technically claim that you're not charging for the artwork at all. Maybe that would fly?
I hereby declare that I would be glad to buy a sheet of said decals, and I would also be more than glad to lie my a** off to any of those ninnys about the whole thing.
Fantastic ideas, all.
Real out-of-the-box thinking!
:wub: :wub: :wub:
Hi all,
esp Gekko.
Just bought an Airfix Lightning F.3 and was thinking of doing it as the Chinese J-7 (maybe as a Vietnamese F-7 example), so loved the Chinese profile. The idea here is that this followed on from the Hunter, ala J-6/F-6.
My latest thoughts are to do it in a desert scheme (maybe wrap around) as part of my Socialist Union (SU) red airforces in north Africa theme. I'll make it nice and pale with some Bulgarian markings and use Humbrol cream, light grey and light green. Maybe I'll add a couple of small inner wing hardpoints for AA-1 Alkali to give a radar alternative to the Firstreaks (or AA-5 Awl in my theme)
Anyway, loved the profiles. :P
QuoteI don't know if the RAF and RAAF Brand Managers would give me the OK to be able to produce decal sheets of "What if?" aircraft/schemes in "their" markings, I haven't tried. Somehow I doubt it, and besides that its a process that quite frankly kills my imagination. I'm not particularly happy about the fact that if I come up with something "creative" and wish to create a decal sheet for us all to enjoy I first have to get "permission" off my own Air Force in order to be able to do it.
As far as I'm aware the RAF (MOD) branding of the roundel is much more to do with "commercialy undesirable use" - what ever that may be. What I've read would suggest they have no intention to use it to spoil "legitimate" uses ?
I'd still love to see a generic sheet of RAF Squadron crests and bars etc in various styles which we could then use on our own wif's - rather like the recently announced Zotz "roundels of the world" sheets.
As for the Lightning profiles - hubba hubba :wub: :wub: :wub: and I don't even like the beast !
Just be thankful that Raddish is ccurrently off line - he'd have an orgasm over the "pink" one.
CHris
Quoteand I don't even like the beast !
Heritic!!!... :D :D :D
LOVE those profiles, especially the Japanese one.. :wub: :wub: :wub:
It seems that we all tend to think alike. Also, I like your idea of doing the 'generic' sheet AND the wif sheets to be a damm good one. Hell, I'd buy them in a heartbeat.
All this copyrighting of national markings and stuff is plain stupid, especially as they are in the public domain anyway. Still it's the corporate mentality that seems to be poisoning the world these days.
QuoteMikey Wren - you want to repost your series of killer lightning profiles here again for contrast / bonus heavy metal joy?
I can't seem to find the original post but here's a couple...
love the Desert Pink sharkmouth BTW :wub:
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here it is...
Lightning topic (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=5196)
QuoteAll this copyrighting of national markings and stuff is plain stupid, especially as they are in the public domain anyway. Still it's the corporate mentality that seems to be poisoning the world these days.
I don't actually think it's to do with that Lance (at least not the RAF) it's more to do with the symbol being used in a way that would besmirch the service/country, by some anarchist group or whatever. Not that I'm against anarchy necessarily :P
I hope I'm right and it's not money-grabbing
Chris
Heresy!
RCAF Lightnings! Arggshhhhh........
:P
Nice profiles BTW...
;)
Richard at Gekko Graphics was the guy I approached about doing a sheet of RAAF TSR-2 Eagle markings to go with my RAAF Eagle history backstory. He kindly explained the current legalities of doing them so I dropped the idea, even though I was thinking of commissioning the sheet myself. I appreciate that he took the time to reply and explain.
Trust me, as an ex-serving member of the RAAF for 13 years, you cannot believe how screwed up I think the current situation is...... :angry:
Great work Richard, I hope I can catch up with you at a model show again soon. (Richard and I are both from Adelaide)
Cheers
Tony
I want to marry you Mr. Gekko and have your babies ! :wub: :wub: :wub:
I H-G
QuoteI want to marry you Mr. Gekko and have your babies ! :wub: :wub: :wub:
I H-G
I think his wife might have something to say about that.. :o :D :o :D :o :D
QuoteQuoteMikey Wren - you want to repost your series of killer lightning profiles here again for contrast / bonus heavy metal joy?
I can't seem to find the original post but here's a couple...
love the Desert Pink sharkmouth BTW :wub:
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Hi Mike,
just had a look at your profiles! Nice work mate! :D
If you can find the time (believe me I know how time consuming this stuff can be) I'd really like you to do some more. What about some North African F.6's??
Or, again if you've got the time, we could both individually work on an F.6 or two based on a suggestion by a third party? Just to see what our individual creativeness can come up with and compare on this site? :wacko:
Just a suggestion, but I think it would be fun, and I know a lot of people here would enjoy the show too. What do you think??
Cheers
Richard.
QuoteRichard at Gekko Graphics was the guy I approached about doing a sheet of RAAF TSR-2 Eagle markings to go with my RAAF Eagle history backstory. He kindly explained the current legalities of doing them so I dropped the idea, even though I was thinking of commissioning the sheet myself. I appreciate that he took the time to reply and explain.
Trust me, as an ex-serving member of the RAAF for 13 years, you cannot believe how screwed up I think the current situation is...... :angry:
Great work Richard, I hope I can catch up with you at a model show again soon. (Richard and I are both from Adelaide)
Cheers
Tony
Hi Tony,
actually, after having a good look around this site (and still looking btw) I have re-found my enthusiasm for 'What if' subjects, a subject that has always been dear to my heart, and am starting to re-think the TSR.2 thing, possibly integrating it in with some other possible subjects as well. :wacko:
In fact I'm going to contact a guy today who may have some good TSR.2 drawings, if he does then you may well start to see some here!?
It would be great to catch-up with you at the Hobby Expo in Adelaide too!
Cheers
Richard.
QuoteI want to marry you Mr. Gekko and have your babies ! :wub: :wub: :wub:
I H-G
Ummmmmm ? I spoke to me wife about your offer Ian and she said it would be OK providing you offer her two camels (good ones, not those common single hump ones), a goat (female) and seventy fit and healthy men.........to replace me! :P
(thanks mate I appreciate the encouragement) :cheers:
Cheers
Richard.
Richard, the best TSR-2 drawings are the ones in the February 1985 edition of Scale Models International.
Their are scanned online versions of them available around, I am sure someone can "help you out"...:)
My RAAF Eagle backstory is in the TSR-2 section of this baord if you have not seen it.
TSR-2 RAAF (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=5824)
I would love to work with you on this.
Cheers
Tony
QuoteIf you can find the time (believe me I know how time consuming this stuff can be) I'd really like you to do some more. What about some North African F.6's??
Or, again if you've got the time, we could both individually work on an F.6 or two based on a suggestion by a third party? Just to see what our individual creativeness can come up with and compare on this site? :wacko:
Just a suggestion, but I think it would be fun, and I know a lot of people here would enjoy the show too. What do you think??
cheers Richard, time permitting I'm up for doing more profiles, did the original Lightning ones a couple of years ago, along with a whole host of AH-56 Cheyenne helicopter profiles which are now lost forever :(
as with anything like this, get some good line drawings & anything's possible
mine were scanned from the Warpaint book, then Photoshopped. Not print quality but good enough for looking at on a monitor to get an idea for which schemes work & which ones don't
Mike
I've just had multiple orgasms :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: