As the topic "Twin-Whirlwind and others" is subtitled "not yet plastic", it should not have included some plastic creations, I was wrong including some (Ta 283Z, Ho 229Z, Twin-boom Whirlwind, Twin-Raiden, Ta 183Z-2). New models may now take part of the contest, and use Gary's special topic for that, but on MartinH's site http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballmodelpage (http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballmodelpage) was presented in detail this week the old Twin-Spitfire EG-K that was included in my 2003 book "Supplement Nr1 to Forked Ghosts". So this is not new, this is already plastic, but there are more details here than what I found previously:
- this great model is a mix of Spitfires Mk.16, 18, 21
- coded Mk 32
- "confirmed" (what-ifingly) as 1945-used
- justified mainly by very long range (like the Twin-Mustang).
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See:
http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballm...to&PhotoID=1624 (http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballmodelpage/kitskits.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1624)
http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballm...to&PhotoID=1625 (http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballmodelpage/kitskits.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1625)
The genius modeller that built it seems not to be a member here (under this name PR19 at least).
Well the "infamous" Meteor PR19 was by Keith Spackman ? so might be his ? Met him at Yate - nice bloke
Chris
Great model...great WIF.........and soooooo expensive. :o
The noise from those two conta's would be a joy. :rolleyes:
Now what did I do with all those cheap 22's I picked up on Ebay. :P
I wonder if the Mercian Alliance flew them against the Roman air legions..........nurse nurse the pills :dum: :dum:
It's by Kit Spackman and I first saw that in 1994, so it's been around a bit.
BTW, the old Testors Spit 22 is back out for under a fiver.
QuoteBTW, the old Testors Spit 22 is back out for under a fiver.
fiver of pounds, or euros, or dollars, or pesos? anyway, a Spit 22 is so beautiful, such a kit deserves even £5 (and a double deserves £10, according to me) :)
It's £3.99 exactly, although the kit itself is fairly basic. No cockpit interior or wheel wells and the tailfin is accurate for the early 22s only.
Thanks to P1127's discovery, I can present a true addition to my collection: Messerschmitt/Millette Me 109ZX, contemporary of Shinden, Yak9, P-51, Ho 229 etc, so dated 1945 somehow, even if famous for a later race.
This push-pull Me 109 could have been truly considered vs the Bf 109Z way... preferred at last for bigger size/room thus load/range.
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Thanks to Jack Bobson directing me to http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/may/av...on/Millette.php (http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/may/aviation/Millette.php) , I must correct: the Belgium/Millette Me 109ZX Libellule was made from old Messerschmitt Bf 109 available after 1945, as well as the SNCASE/Millette Do 335ZJ Liberte made from old Dornier Do 335 and jet engines (not future Do 435 as my Do 435Z drawing).
Hurrah for Mr Millette!
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Thanks to Laurent, from the Capitole Kit Club (Toulouse, France, http://www.ckclub.org (http://www.ckclub.org) ), here are 2 wonderful models of double planes, seen at Telford 2003 :
- almost true Do 635 of 1945:
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- fiction Twin-Draken (how to say it in Swedish ?) of the 1970s:
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Thanks to Mechworker's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...=0&#entry115939 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=8649&st=0&#entry115939) and mostly his page http://ipmslondon.tripod.com/modelingartic...icles/id12.html (http://ipmslondon.tripod.com/modelingarticles/id12.html) , here is the Fi203 = Fi103Z:
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QuoteAnyone thought of zwilling V-1s? :blink:
Here is the frightening Radish V1Z...: Better as 1/72 toy :P than as 1/1 weapon to kill civilians :( :angry:
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(Thanks to braincell37's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=10112 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=10112) directing us to http://www.ipms-seattle.org/Springshow/200...craft/index.htm (http://www.ipms-seattle.org/Springshow/2006%20Pictures/Aircraft/index.htm) )
Here is a cute float-Vampire that could be dated 1945, why not (=what-if...)? Even more sexy than a Sea-Dart jet seaplane...
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On MartinH's great site is a nice Display entitled Scots Nationals 2006 ( http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballm...ionals2006.msnw (http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballmodelpage/scotsnationals2006.msnw) )
Most of all, for my (acute) interest:
- (092) a nice night Twin-Spitfire with separate tails
- (097) a peculiar Twin-Hurricane with little external stabilisers
- (094) an asymmetric freak (my favourite!) that seems to be a Spitfire linked to a shortened Hurricane
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Dear Martin, could you tell us :
- who built these 3 pearls?
- what is exactly the amazing asymmetric zwilling?
- what is the Delanne-like unknown plane (091 & 099)?
- where is the picture of the ducted-fan Spitfire mentioned in the Message Board for Scots2006?
Thanks a lot.
PS. I could have asked there but I cannot connect anymore, and trying to ask another password, I cannot finish the procedure (E-mail + typing characters), refused... So I ask here, sending also a PM to dear Martin...
Tophe.
The builder of the 3 scots nationals models is a gent by the name of Dugald Emans.
The delane type u saw is the Westland twin wing Lysander.
On my update site http://cmeunier.chez-alice.fr/Free_EoFG_MV.htm (http://cmeunier.chez-alice.fr/Free_EoFG_MV.htm) , I direct here for several models of twin-boom fantasy related somehow to 1939-45, but not to the places where I posted 7 models of mine, 1/72, plastic & resin, built in 2005-2006. I present them here again:
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I will then present them one by one.
– the Gothophe Go 241 of 1939 was a biplane T-tail preliminary Gotha Go 242 cargo-glider
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– the BMWophe TL-/I/ of 1945 was a canard asymmetric BMW TL-III
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– the Caudronophe C-7114 of 1941 was a twin Caudron C.714, glider or single-engined
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– the Bellophe P-7117 of 1944 was a twin Bell P-77, also glider or single-engined
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– the Lockheedophe GP-38 of 1945 Space Sheep Zero was a transonic stratospheric glider
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– the Grokhoskophe PG-38 of 1945 was also a transonic stratospheric glider
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– the Yuriophe Kit-11 of 1945 was a tailsitter VTOL, double Kit-1 without propellers
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Thanks to Seavixen's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=10804 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=10804) (directing to http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5...ock/gal4897.htm (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5/4801-4900/gal4897_Ta-183_Pollock/gal4897.htm) ), we may add the finished Ta 183Z with linked tailplanes, completing the separate-tail one built by our Linzifox:
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Thanks to Martin H's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=10847 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=10847) and as I do not find anymore the Winthrop Model Award page on the Web, I post here the comparison between the new C-47Z Twin-Dakota and the "old" C-53Z Walla-Walla. :) :)
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Besides, I have discovered that Walla-Walla is a town in Washington State, USA, not only a Scandinavian god, and this is more appropriate for a USAF Cargo plane, less What-ifing, a little... ^_^
Here is a DoubleThunder completing the DoubleBolt that I knew. Mainly with a different tail : 2 asymmetric tailplanes with rocket internal...
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(thanks to Aircav, from http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...php%3Fid%3D2217 (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modellversium.de%2Fgalerie%2Fartikel.php%3Fid%3D2217) )
In Nev's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=13062 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=13062) , are (to complete the collection) a Do 335Z and a Zwilling V1, from Tellford 2006.
from http://modelstories.free.fr/reportages/IPM...6_P/page14.html (http://modelstories.free.fr/reportages/IPMSUK06_P/page14.html) (JCC photo) and http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=13020 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=13020) (Falcon photos) and http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HR7342 (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HR7342) (advertisement), I have discovered that the Renard R-42 twin-fuselage is now available as a commercial kit, from the Czech HR resin kits company
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At http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=13020 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=13020) was featured, among so many other things, a nice Lavochkin La VRD model (photo by Falcon):
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At http://modelstories.free.fr/reportages/IPM...6_P/page15.html (http://modelstories.free.fr/reportages/IPMSUK06_P/page15.html)
is a nice Twin-Airacobra model, photographed by our dear JCC :
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In the gallery, BdB's 4-engined P-38XL model is a great addition :wub: , see at
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=14050 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=14050)
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agreed!
I like that twin-aircobra :wub:
We must not forget:
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