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Title: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on May 25, 2025, 10:01:00 AM
Hello all,

so like all good boys, rather than crack on with finishing what's currently on the bench, I got side-tracked by the fact that my 3d printer has sat idle for a week or two. Thus, I decided to continue my quest to have all the F.155T designs in 1/72. I previously 3d printed the AW.169 and the EE P.8 (and I built the Vickers 559 from Fantastic Plastic).

As most of you know, LostCosmonauts also used to print and sell some of these submissions, and amongst them was the Fairey Delta 3 "Large". However, I've not yet seen the smaller initial submission by Fairey, the ER.103C. This was proposed as a highly feasible, quick development option by Fairey, based on available materials and technology at the time, with the idea that it could be in flight by 1960.

Based on the record setting Delta 2 it was slightly larger with a crew of two, powered by a single de Havilland Gyron & a pair of de Havilland Spectre Junior rocket motors, and armed with a pair of Blue Jays on the wing tips.

I've been plugging away at it for a couple of weeks on and off now, and have the bulk of it where I want it.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOz5SZpf2JBqKPCGkloSDVLDxZbAsb_TUjeHBbBnoYFvzLNXmgJvrB_5xcka63fLrRjI8PGUz8jEj_VvGsYT9rCbxWbMMMNAG3N3MMgW8-seMXONIM=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOmzPYRCItlsIzf1cjYsz6uhcqnFuAQq1ZLgUjSJVce3iEg4w61qiNJCsZC0wQx7TAWSXUKugPhwd4lOfo5tIu54nrZJW64aC1I-2nrkbLkTOKQdHI=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPWHHeMhYN5D_5XOsK6WjdLaaCuOG2ZaWW8oAeUtD_-gBG69DkHMABYurQ8NNAkVqB0XeRcUdBzN0VtmtdUoPvi2901p-87lwN6J9WwD7QAlWwenNA=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMCIumWt2Cb7v8p-5MxbXCXGaPQXdlcwEsnh16ihkl5bklIv0cwMcjl-hYq2zTBJIyvBzrLM3KK0L6tKESNWRD95IZO5xFLQXdTn0YkezMzN52WE50=w2400)

The rocket location as shown on the drawings clashes with the side profile design, which suggests that the end of the fairing is tapered. But this doesn't lend itself to housing a rocket nozzle. So I've just done what I can. Once printed I'll review how it looks and make any changes.

For the landing gear I've essentially copied the FD2 front undercarriage, and have used the FD3 "Large" drawings to guide the design of the rear. Similarly, the front bay is a pure copy of the FD2, whilst the rear is as feasible as I could get, albeit with some fairly chunky pipes (which I need to resize).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMVUcfW7ntAblUCeL8vkfeodT_vyB70AWSuTSsilap6Gg9A5Uj5S5CLEJnznwBFaP02N9hdWmUYUomPsAWsQ-d7Wn73Ldd3Lb23q7CyURrycuNG6SQ=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOZeWpdLvnKJKlVEpXMmzHQ-Oq7u0wE4mRW5Z3TpOjdk-VzpN_lgz0HUPrv3jjRDMMtjU1K41lFjSKs5rCt5pjQjl2mY0xV0pmqroV2Qo2wc0JPCNY=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPAO-OQWu_6VRdETv8F4l2v3naG2q8CTU9Zgx4fNsszGUHb1Tr3n4CIWEwElOlJbK8dusPh9gmR-QE7wLWfQP8QxIWGXXvbbWf-f7kFA0pu-8pAmSg=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOvvAw2neBluN4aHANjZdSZtss4resOztJ1lTdB2Zfkbvvccj2ElrB7CDhnnmKAeFoaGcjrdXnRfquvhsEXB2Pj4iDI98mslgtHdh4t3bnH7kXI2so=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMHmOLxoo2cvPRQRwU3DmYjel2M-76y4RFcIn7vngrEzStIpoV71ln9EWIF01ll1n0Asi_dXmiYyWSz-ViHhJPhwsCj0CSFVVPewLYWc_iJrmRkKss=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPYgUrUet4zRlTAOY0iUOAtGbcG4MZIjtzyOPxBWsLnjm7fGEeYgbVzhUcBmqnr3truGBX6lBirffGR-aeRaR11Cc8y5pxYSjTYuYPeOv7JabXhw9Q=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOXtvtoUBiMUPoksNElqedcQPc72sQ8Fz5migLFdSDNR1reIstk_9QEjeEz8gc5S6-iFDiLcbgF2fYp2jd4FUc6KYB7KnlTZGUDGpX4JPcZrysIV7g=w2400)

Today I managed to get the wheels and the exhaust done. The front wheel was a fresh design based entirely on the FD2 wheel. The main wheel was a resized copy of the one I did for the AW.169, since I think Fairey would have gone for more than 2 brake pistons per wheel for production! The exhaust borrowed the compressor (for now) from the AW.169 (rescaled again) and a nozzle based on a Phantom for now.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMSGdeJrGg4VVOKP7QD4vuk2miyojW2ktvnBXG6btTRk2F_WVw6rCdzTSuOcwbGW9KchEx-4mwkY-8jXD3G0VyK78Xk145DRb-FyWqkn8fRyrtAg0Q=w2400)

Finally, here she sits as parked up.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMhMerUKCFkb2IKcXva7-eTRMYNf3VdFGw2l1Eq4VtbfvenJmNie7hZLCG_IhNiS0L6bRduQzlAR0mcFO3mt2E_ozpxkP7AXwACgYtL9bdjhROUxf8=w2400)

Still to do is the cockpit, compressor face, canopy mould for vacuforming, the opening mechanism & nose droop. I already have some designs for 3d printing Red Tops. Then I need to figure out the best way to split it all for printing. Then finally it will be panel line time. Fun. Not.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on May 25, 2025, 11:30:26 AM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Thorvic on May 25, 2025, 12:08:21 PM
Looking good so far, and should look good between an FD2 and the FD3
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on May 25, 2025, 01:46:16 PM
Quote from: Thorvic on May 25, 2025, 12:08:21 PMLooking good so far, and should look good between an FD2 and the FD3

So then the question is, how much needs to be changed to make an FD3?
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on May 25, 2025, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Gondor on May 25, 2025, 01:46:16 PMSo then the question is, how much needs to be changed to make an FD3?
Almost everything essentially. I think the only things that would carry over are the exhaust and nozzle, and perhaps the wheels. The undercarriage could be scaled, but everything else is bigger.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: buzzbomb on May 25, 2025, 03:35:45 PM
Great insight into the design work needed to create this stuff.

Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on May 25, 2025, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: scautomoton on May 25, 2025, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Gondor on May 25, 2025, 01:46:16 PMSo then the question is, how much needs to be changed to make an FD3?
Almost everything essentially. I think the only things that would carry over are the exhaust and nozzle, and perhaps the wheels. The undercarriage could be scaled, but everything else is bigger.

Thanks, I didn't know how different in size the two were to each other.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on May 26, 2025, 01:59:44 AM
This image from http://www.rp-one.net/ shows it quite well. Single vs twin seat, single vs twin engine. Large variant could carry Red Hebe, although apparently there was a later submission of the ER.103C with Red Hebes before Fairey submitted the Large variant.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.1905d5296dc682c5dc3eb89949d6b24a?rik=ebCadqZ4R2%2fHhg&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rp-one.net%2ff_155_t%2fgraphics%2ffd_ii_iii_comparison.png&ehk=qybDHTLuviVoP2J%2fpUWLjtUz7DWNRur4mnU6pWjRIK0%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 26, 2025, 04:19:05 AM
Anything needing to carry a Red Hebe had to be GINORMOUS! The thing was just SO huge!  :o
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: NARSES2 on May 26, 2025, 05:23:26 AM
Quote from: buzzbomb on May 25, 2025, 03:35:45 PMGreat insight into the design work needed to create this stuff.



Absolutely  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Mossie on May 26, 2025, 08:37:54 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on May 25, 2025, 10:01:00 AMThe rocket location as shown on the drawings clashes with the side profile design, which suggests that the end of the fairing is tapered. But this doesn't lend itself to housing a rocket nozzle. So I've just done what I can. Once printed I'll review how it looks and make any changes.

Could the end be a frangible fairing, blown off or frazzled when the rocket ignites?

This looks great, I might well be tempted if you offer it.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on May 27, 2025, 02:12:51 PM
One of the more difficult bits, the nose droop, is done! Sort of. Well, its probably as good as its going to get. It can sit in either position with the aid of an extra part to droop the nose by 10.5 deg.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMi18r1eI0Cd_NCp0n8xZG0avi5uw9Xw0c2YhKgW9nRkIkXscFV2ywC0NmhPSvHihEtQ2d5vFuV_RdGgL2E0HUC4dADpWmt4A4w9gG-YA_tY7qJyjA=w2400)

I've also dressed the exhaust nozzle a tad, and am quite happy with it now. The proof will be in the printed pudding.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNyyG-etvN2UXe8Y9YM0fPz5cq_21iradir25LYf3uMaGUInm4RcKST6JA2lzVmGhoBlwkOiIHSPOndWTHbCUDV80h631cokHgsDEz587DORJK0U7k=w2400)

And I've done what I can with the cockpit. My comment above was incorrect, I'd forgotten its a two-seater! Damn it would be snug in there... Only one seat shown at the mo, and half the coaming (I tend to draw half of the object, then cut it along the middle and mirror it)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOqrLzH7TByaczD9n87eEx0t9s47k8SKtHYW1WFcqb9RKhOVOduKwWqiRdVDWQ5qd37X7JNVh8c7UmitKNg7eGuftf3Y3cutG8EZE3zmhy113yihzo=w2400)

So next will be the mould for the canopy (I'm not looking forward to this), and then playing with split locations and all the tolerances before the inaugural print. Thinking about it, I'm also going to need to put some effort into the ejection seat, my generic MB Mk.4 design is too wide at the top, so will clash with the canopy when closed. The plans call for a "lightweight" seat, and the drawings look like a narrower Mk.4, so I'll have to have a play.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on May 29, 2025, 10:48:58 AM
Actually, next is the first test print of some bits (those that will fit on the bed!).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPjn49ZKH8c7TqmoP4M9kRlh6yJzrXfzxkxQbH2QG349uNhWxC1SIZpYSnm8iw68VrF8eCljYT68LTFEaBHOyzO6YEk27g5AQVmAd9VJmkoMx1e4-A=w2400)

Hopefully, in 3.5 hrs I'll have a successful print and see how well some of the more fiddly bits go together.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on May 29, 2025, 11:30:20 AM
Looks nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Mossie on May 29, 2025, 12:09:31 PM
Tasty.  :wub:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on May 30, 2025, 12:25:25 PM
We have physical parts! I give you a mix of 1st and 2nd attempt bits!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczN968gj7Gv7QlkeFfTLz8e_C4mWOX83c2cBpw37DqZgXPKx1xae2cFVVqO2SkahiqORHmkzrph_RNEzRd--OWmr6YAPDaMhRqtXow_ulPax0IFSitk=w2400)

And, after a teeny bit of fettling, half an aeroplane! Ignore the bits of support I didn't clean up.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMDU2VAIoLftCLsinoyd5FCG9auNXjrORjjBoz_PMvG-n8WRJF2QTDCHSIPzGGt5HdtjPQ1u8ucRgIWmWSEOBRMCnNAWbgVFefVoBn4SWm7x2vL4cc=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczODR1TizA8MIxLvGSAyfpxUYp5z5rzznCczji0kSFPPOWW-TRjxSB5J8L4Qvw1eBCFvQSZ3qjYUJPUiPvvZwM-LF6u0fX7-iruI_wkbGzfUtfR0Xk4=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPcrHhOGPxvrxSR-Z_qPZYIRIWmb8PNiF7ngC-v0EXh2IdEvXVBwymiOOskmIqh4h7Mujsur4y_A3_UINW-F5vWPANT02L6yDcpuhcFLvNB3MO2LSw=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczN_6a7a6Q3zxL2ZetbIlWTMzJtMi1Kuwg1oQpj5EZ57lzc0VmylJtDsuNThgKgoW_iO7Ggi6GrM7b9sWWXsCbwA_X2j13XpACVST71KaOknid458BA=w2400)

I couldn't resist sticking it all together to get a feel for the actual size. Its bigger than I expected. A handful of tweaks to the design, some panel lines, and we're good to go.

And for reference, here she is with the actual FD2. Yes I know its too purple, I didn't mix the paint well enough.....

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNEkCAthQAlMEsHH-tj1WeVssUI_uRLdv7sFBYG3x6FTzop5Ckz_zpEqVtEksEWVpPn_z1UtP6UWRaKtHsUFCx-tdAprR4VWVqx2rZ2IO_BhUXOknI=w2400)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on May 30, 2025, 01:00:32 PM
Ohhhhh yummy  :wub:  :wub:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 30, 2025, 02:16:22 PM
That's very impressive, oh yes.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: su27rules on May 31, 2025, 04:25:28 AM
 :wub:  :wub:   Nice!!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: TsrJoe on June 01, 2025, 06:00:39 AM
Verrrrry nice work, looks good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Thorvic on June 01, 2025, 06:05:24 AM
Looking good Stuart,  :bow:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Spino on June 01, 2025, 07:15:03 AM
Surely that Delta 2 is in a different scale than the Delta 3?  Also is that a resin printer you're using?  I don't see any layer lines, looks like it was injection molded or something  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Martin H on June 01, 2025, 09:07:10 AM
Oooohhhhh very nice  :mellow:

My wallet is screaming in pain just looking at it...............
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: deathjester on June 01, 2025, 09:50:32 AM
Wow!!  Amazing model - well done!!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 01, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Martin H on June 01, 2025, 09:07:10 AMOooohhhhh very nice  :mellow:

My wallet is screaming in pain just looking at it...............

So what's it going to do with all the P.1121 and family being drawn up as well?
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 01, 2025, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: Gondor on June 01, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Martin H on June 01, 2025, 09:07:10 AMOooohhhhh very nice  :mellow:

My wallet is screaming in pain just looking at it...............

So what's it going to do with all the P.1121 and family being drawn up as well?
Don't worry, there'll be plenty of breathing space!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: kitbasher on June 01, 2025, 10:12:01 AM
Bugger.  Tried to resist but currently caving in to temptation.

Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: George the Cat on June 01, 2025, 10:41:36 AM
Would one of these be available for the Coventry Show and what's the price? It looks excellent.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 01, 2025, 11:19:49 AM
Steady boys, what you see so far is iteration #1, the first trial print. I may be able to get the first proper one ready to display, but its a tad tight if I'm honest.

Thanks for all the kind comments as well!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: frank2056 on June 01, 2025, 11:21:26 AM
Wow - looks great for a prototype print.

I've been using the perforated rafts and they really make it easier to remove the builds from the plate.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 01, 2025, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: frank2056 on June 01, 2025, 11:21:26 AMWow - looks great for a prototype print.

I've been using the perforated rafts and they really make it easier to remove the builds from the plate.
Yeah, I find it easier to remove the skates in general. The tapered edge is nice for using a scraper to start to lift and peel it from the build plate, then it just pops off. However, for large surface area stuff I go with the grid plate, otherwise the skates snap.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Mossie on June 01, 2025, 01:14:26 PM
This looks lovely,  like a high end resin kit.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 01, 2025, 02:12:19 PM
 It IS a high end resin kit!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 01, 2025, 02:14:52 PM
I think it more accurate to state "it aspires to be a high-end resin kit"!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on June 01, 2025, 02:33:29 PM
Tempting - really tempting!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: NARSES2 on June 02, 2025, 08:37:45 AM
It does look rather tasty, I could well be tempted, and it doesn't even have a propeller  ;)  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 02, 2025, 08:37:45 AMIt does look rather tasty, I could well be tempted, and it doesn't even have a propeller  ;)  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


But as this is WhiffWorld you can fit one Chris.  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 02, 2025, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 02, 2025, 08:37:45 AMIt does look rather tasty, I could well be tempted, and it doesn't even have a propeller  ;)  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


But as this is WhiffWorld you can fit one Chris.  ;D  ;)
Like a Fairey equivalent of the Thunderscreech!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 02, 2025, 09:24:59 AMLike a Fairey equivalent of the Thunderscreech!


Now there's a thought, we never did go down that route in the UK, did we? Could be a whole new area of Whiffing.............  ;)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: kitbasher on June 02, 2025, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 02, 2025, 09:24:59 AMLike a Fairey equivalent of the Thunderscreech!


Now there's a thought, we never did go down that route in the UK, did we? Could be a whole new area of Whiffing.............  ;)

Sweep back those Wyvern wings and.......
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on June 02, 2025, 12:22:24 PMSweep back those Wyvern wings and.......


Indeed so, I wonder if Colin's Super Hunter wings would fit?  ;)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: kitbasher on June 02, 2025, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on June 02, 2025, 12:22:24 PMSweep back those Wyvern wings and.......


Indeed so, I wonder if Colin's Super Hunter wings would fit?  ;)

Dunno, but looking at the Thunderscreech a Hunter could be the basis:
- Hunter fuselage
- T-tail
- Hawker P.1109 nose (maybe extended?), radome becomes the prop spinner
- Vampire intakes
- early Hunter wings (i.e. minus dog-tooth extensions)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 03:04:00 PM
And longer landing gear to clear the prop?
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: kitbasher on June 02, 2025, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 02, 2025, 03:04:00 PMAnd longer landing gear to clear the prop?

Slightly longer, but not by much - Thunderscreech prop blades are, after all,, quite stumpy.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 03, 2025, 04:32:45 AM
Yes, you'd need to clip the Wyvern prop blades a bit though and stretch the nose leg perhaps? The 'Screech sat at quite a nose-up angle.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 03, 2025, 05:59:20 AM
So short update. We have been deep in the depths of printing. Luckily this time only a smallish number of iterations to get joints and fitting correct.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPrksI32ic8p2jImfglf8VtxT7t7gh_rZlpsx3gp_EAb_pQbP4I9Fhi7AOuerM-zd-xccpgTUSUHycEOYyBrh2fhBrRN5XhfjXskVW-h0zavuVoGoU=w2400)

Its always a difficult decision deciding where to put the joins. 3D printing in resin takes a bit of fettling to deliver both crisp edges and grain-free surfaces. Personally, I prefer to get the former bang-on if I can since the latter is less tedious than oodles of filler.

You can see from the first print I assembled there have mainly been fuselage and wing prints, most of the fiddly bits are easy to get right with one or two iterations. but the bigger prints are far more likely to go wrong. They twist, or you don't put enough supports in the right places so you get waisted areas, or you miss an island and then there a bit of important detail missing.

Anyhoo, I've done all the panel lines, and the nominal first fully buildable print is ongoing. In the top right of the pic above you can see a bunch of stuff with supports attached. All of that is part of the next build; currently in the printer are the wings, cockpit and a couple of other odds & sods.

Next up, clean up, final fit and then some glue and paintwork starts! I think I'm going to go NMF, with the 66 Sqn scheme from the Sabre or the Commander's scheme from the Meteor F.8.

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/0246dd0e-5d49-4d08-a8ae-daa09f0b309f/d987tak-3c827b4a-254e-422e-b322-66b3de1ad7ee.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzAyNDZkZDBlLTVkNDktNGQwOC1hOGFlLWRhYTA5ZjBiMzA5ZlwvZDk4N3Rhay0zYzgyN2I0YS0yNTRlLTQyMmUtYjMyMi02NmIzZGUxYWQ3ZWUuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.SPOi5oTff2g2nsF3T_K-UqHb9TzCkETIV_JMJR4kZCM)
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3339e13e66d0c634cdef7005f27a5a2f?rik=gcGOA0NHfHFWuA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.wings-aviation.ch%2f18-RAF%2f2-Aircraft%2fGloster-Meteor%2f66Sqn-1952-02.png&ehk=W%2bN%2f8UZuCZRvi%2fSkqi732E8O3%2fpMLnWXo23F2pBVYzs%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 03, 2025, 07:16:20 AM
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Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: NARSES2 on June 04, 2025, 06:39:44 AM
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Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 04, 2025, 01:57:10 PM
Todays activities have mostly been a little bit of paint, some sanding, and glossing some vacform moulds.

I've sanded the majority of the larger parts to remove any print artefacts. A dab of Mr Surfacer 500 will be needed here and there to fill pock marks from support removal.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPOqjAq0YUZyiKa81hSuRrm9oilrA74badWw1GmaXnwIwJ1ugHE5I_ri6MY9QXf3LD8tXgfFwBkX6YanQBbcx7lo8PgIg0yuJhpJiDfX4n81oLvoXs=w2400)

In the interests of getting things buttoned up I've painted the exhaust internals, and the inlet duct and compressor face. Since both turbine & compressor are effectively the same part, they both got a coat of Mr Gunze Silver, a sludge wash, and then Molotov Liquid Chrome for the central "bullet". The inlet duct was also painted in silver. The exhaust & afterburner bits were painted with Mr Gunze Steel, with the spray ring and reheat can then receiving a very light dusting of pure Tamiya Flat Base. This left a very heavy white powder finish. I then used a cotton bud to wipe away the worst of it, and its left exactly the sort of burnt, chalky look I want from a reheat can. Its probably a tad too heavy though, so next time I'll experiment with thinning it a bit to lighten the effect.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNXpWVq-IM-69QaYl6PaoBjpG0-PZngtQfJ5m76EJ9Do_M9KlzCxdhVmjPmX4EYMH34UQ73_0JDAt9Ms2PXlOuM4cJs8VkP4ErLUs_oZnAI0bvZ-9g=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOVxnDLNliHUIXbDlGyZHFiTRaAzTDsR3N9gyND4SClwjsEJU6lARkXjgMHiuU772PJPpsZclBPyiRB4PE-xcT7idO12tKUv9XrOgEZhcym8IorXY0=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczM5wjbfsyMA8SshfKxYS-6Neo85xHtKgv0pdefTjWwnK60RHlUx11YWxTyOaAaGWBaEOu03ds7ZLxRTx7n5k7-L46hiByk5p0sIkoTQM3nnBd9l6pQ=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMhpJ6XiO7UX9J-F12-JTJR8CGdpWHD-znTRb-JAbo2NDcjyx8tjdoevQXCK9hru4lRmf2m9SjDtn8RF4i_8Cw-W5FvBx56p6Odh8VrKntFguUlWcE=w2400)

And here's a pic of progress thus far. The fuselage is buttoned up, wings and tail just need a clean and they can be glued too. Note all the canopy moulds on the right, another of tomorrow's tasks. I need to check whether the recess depth on the cockpit body is deep enough for the vacuform to sit flush.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczM02cqsWr-iWQBFf7Xa-7VroqeH3AqYpBNt8bJ7wul4S3I9-TNjfZ8oLV12tWqGCHJ9jioZsMOKcgxRViGh3PBT9HtYV3g_gRdBeHk_cthz_xDPP0A=w2400)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Mossie on June 05, 2025, 11:17:32 AM
I like this even more the more I see of it. :wub:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Spino on June 05, 2025, 11:34:00 AM
This really makes me want a resin printer, mine is an FDM and I have had issues with it printing fine details.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 05, 2025, 01:42:25 PM
Today the vac forming kit got a good work out. Well, for about 5 minutes anyway. Et voila! A canopy after I trimmed it down to the right shape and size. Which was a little awkward. Fairey had this design which hinged quite far back from the canopy, so care was required. I've also moulded the surface of the fuselage ahead of the windscreen as part of it, since I find it easier to assemble with a bit you can handle without fear of scratching or scuffing since it will get painted anyway.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNyXGQauUjUrs2p47olRM3J0BsrsZtRFnE_l1nChKdF0pHxjyX04VL9dlCjm9-LQJioPb0oubxJ7gaBJXOPEe6m4XxXBgAwQUODWEzEkgmR4n-aTgE=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPMFLIxJEXo41zipZ4waqjLU8xEPAjhFFQMeC9kkhYHRSFaNG5QnMP0gWJquLAQAP5SZ3gWui3hozK6V31lqq_iW41AqIIJLheM5BFN0Brg01_U0ek=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMJs9I2xdgmSHJkYxYCt8_m38qUCBTLdxre0ErIWmPEztuQ5LMguwy4fQj9izVJtXJE0dNdjh0cRnj7i0NP9jXR_tQEz3X2Km4BeQ1zp4ukHidf-MM=w2400)

And the rest of today's action has been the joyous task of getting a good surface finish for the NMF black base. I really need to change the release film on my printer since the prints are starting to get quite grainy. Lots of sanding required, then a teeny bit of scribing just to get the panel line depth back. I almost caved and went for a camo scheme to spare the hard work, but it'll be worth it in the end. For the black base I just use a can of Gloss Black acrylic from Hobbycraft. With a polish it provides an excellent base. However, I'm always tempted to leave them at this point since I think most jets look great in gloss black.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMEcu-fPuAmEU5qrWL1zdVIefsF9JiZwlEF9Kp3WvnfA7P_mtd8naETb8T_ks7M0GvJYw06Xv0YdGeTpIgCm-dPDmADcWHNWRcJri327JpodTmS_mY=w2400)

So tomorrow hopefully I'll be able to give it a quick prep ready for some super shiny metal. I'm going full bore this time, Alclad Airframe Aluminium, so I need to make sure the finish is flawless. If I fluff it I think I may cry....
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 06, 2025, 02:11:57 PM
So today started off promising; I painted, decalled and assembled the cockpit interior (still need to add a control stick).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPv9DdPnlnz906fm7ge2z33q_im2uvdnpQV10fKuKaQjXw3rmB7X6kFtsy84tSCEmZFTe8m12Qw2_4tas2VDCvEZ15wR86H700vEhlIhBFkVrATFdY=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMxadbo1PEEyPuN8d4TxETHseXxmOoKep_aihN09nrrIDBh5-VoTmbIoYjh8ZLxeIIDBuLAc7LJBiKWb-yGoDCRS_WSsvGki69fZ-rNTCfqTAPiJIY=w2400)

I then settled down and applied the NMF. Annoyingly, the Airframe Aluminium didn't lay down nicely. It was way too dark, looking more like steel or iron, and had a slightly splotchy Hammerite look to it when viewed at any sort of normal distance.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczP6a-EsRFVz5tiUhxaaEL9d_jb19A70K7WXswaxb4f_XtVej4tCXCiJaC0UzYN81aG7K6JenyV6FFkNjJW2fTAOULEOqM1VmPqvpR78iiGHZQC4YCk=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPzF6o-4fo6ifNgh5J8NPIvf6fWkHcms7P2KD3Ri4t0YVvJReNT3Cf6xkqgu4kvP18HHCCQmfcPTW5HdaYYIfAtSWodRFGYVGPegqQrF6I7639E9Z4=w2400)

So I decided to overcoat it with Polished Aluminium, and to be fair, it looked OK. Not quite the mirror finish I was after, but shiny enough, and certainly in keeping with some of my other NMF efforts. So then I glossed it with Intermediate Gauzy. And the bloody dust that appeared! It was covered. I waited for it to dry and then attempted to gently polish the worst if it, but I went through the gloss and was then chasing an edge that wouldn't soften. Then to top it all the tail snapped......

So I'm starting again. This time I'm going to do a better job of prepping the surface, and also make sure I clean the paint booth to the Nth degree.

I'm also going to do a paint board, with black ,grey and white base, then paint all the various metals I have over them. I've been meaning to do this for a while, but I guess this is the KUTA I needed.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 06, 2025, 02:29:06 PM
That looks very nice Stuart. Where did you get the decals for the instrument panel?

Gondor
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 06, 2025, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Gondor on June 06, 2025, 02:29:06 PMThat looks very nice Stuart. Where did you get the decals for the instrument panel?

Gondor
Mike Grant Decals - https://mikegrantdecals.com/product/cockpit-details-world-war-ii-3/

Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Mossie on June 07, 2025, 12:28:54 AM
Nice. I think you should do an all black aircraft in the future, a Black Mike or Black Arrows revival.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 07, 2025, 12:52:50 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 06, 2025, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Gondor on June 06, 2025, 02:29:06 PMThat looks very nice Stuart. Where did you get the decals for the instrument panel?

Gondor
Mike Grant Decals - https://mikegrantdecals.com/product/cockpit-details-world-war-ii-3/



 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: kerick on June 11, 2025, 08:00:42 PM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 06, 2025, 02:11:57 PMSo today started off promising; I painted, decalled and assembled the cockpit interior (still need to add a control stick).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPv9DdPnlnz906fm7ge2z33q_im2uvdnpQV10fKuKaQjXw3rmB7X6kFtsy84tSCEmZFTe8m12Qw2_4tas2VDCvEZ15wR86H700vEhlIhBFkVrATFdY=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMxadbo1PEEyPuN8d4TxETHseXxmOoKep_aihN09nrrIDBh5-VoTmbIoYjh8ZLxeIIDBuLAc7LJBiKWb-yGoDCRS_WSsvGki69fZ-rNTCfqTAPiJIY=w2400)

I then settled down and applied the NMF. Annoyingly, the Airframe Aluminium didn't lay down nicely. It was way too dark, looking more like steel or iron, and had a slightly splotchy Hammerite look to it when viewed at any sort of normal distance.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczP6a-EsRFVz5tiUhxaaEL9d_jb19A70K7WXswaxb4f_XtVej4tCXCiJaC0UzYN81aG7K6JenyV6FFkNjJW2fTAOULEOqM1VmPqvpR78iiGHZQC4YCk=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPzF6o-4fo6ifNgh5J8NPIvf6fWkHcms7P2KD3Ri4t0YVvJReNT3Cf6xkqgu4kvP18HHCCQmfcPTW5HdaYYIfAtSWodRFGYVGPegqQrF6I7639E9Z4=w2400)

So I decided to overcoat it with Polished Aluminium, and to be fair, it looked OK. Not quite the mirror finish I was after, but shiny enough, and certainly in keeping with some of my other NMF efforts. So then I glossed it with Intermediate Gauzy. And the bloody dust that appeared! It was covered. I waited for it to dry and then attempted to gently polish the worst if it, but I went through the gloss and was then chasing an edge that wouldn't soften. Then to top it all the tail snapped......

So I'm starting again. This time I'm going to do a better job of prepping the surface, and also make sure I clean the paint booth to the Nth degree.

I'm also going to do a paint board, with black ,grey and white base, then paint all the various metals I have over them. I've been meaning to do this for a while, but I guess this is the KUTA I needed.

I have an on going battle with dust and lint getting on everything I paint. I've grounded my work surface and plastic spray booth to help get rid of static electricity which attracts and holds dust. Beware of the clothes you wear when painting. Knitted clothes like sweat shirts give off lint like crazy. A tack cloth will collect and hold dust instead of launching it into the air like a normal dust cloth. I've considered getting something like a lab coat to wear to cover up my usual dusty clothes.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: zenrat on June 12, 2025, 04:36:40 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 11, 2025, 08:00:42 PM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 06, 2025, 02:11:57 PMSo today started off promising; I painted, decalled and assembled the cockpit interior (still need to add a control stick).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPv9DdPnlnz906fm7ge2z33q_im2uvdnpQV10fKuKaQjXw3rmB7X6kFtsy84tSCEmZFTe8m12Qw2_4tas2VDCvEZ15wR86H700vEhlIhBFkVrATFdY=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMxadbo1PEEyPuN8d4TxETHseXxmOoKep_aihN09nrrIDBh5-VoTmbIoYjh8ZLxeIIDBuLAc7LJBiKWb-yGoDCRS_WSsvGki69fZ-rNTCfqTAPiJIY=w2400)

I then settled down and applied the NMF. Annoyingly, the Airframe Aluminium didn't lay down nicely. It was way too dark, looking more like steel or iron, and had a slightly splotchy Hammerite look to it when viewed at any sort of normal distance.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczP6a-EsRFVz5tiUhxaaEL9d_jb19A70K7WXswaxb4f_XtVej4tCXCiJaC0UzYN81aG7K6JenyV6FFkNjJW2fTAOULEOqM1VmPqvpR78iiGHZQC4YCk=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPzF6o-4fo6ifNgh5J8NPIvf6fWkHcms7P2KD3Ri4t0YVvJReNT3Cf6xkqgu4kvP18HHCCQmfcPTW5HdaYYIfAtSWodRFGYVGPegqQrF6I7639E9Z4=w2400)

So I decided to overcoat it with Polished Aluminium, and to be fair, it looked OK. Not quite the mirror finish I was after, but shiny enough, and certainly in keeping with some of my other NMF efforts. So then I glossed it with Intermediate Gauzy. And the bloody dust that appeared! It was covered. I waited for it to dry and then attempted to gently polish the worst if it, but I went through the gloss and was then chasing an edge that wouldn't soften. Then to top it all the tail snapped......

So I'm starting again. This time I'm going to do a better job of prepping the surface, and also make sure I clean the paint booth to the Nth degree.

I'm also going to do a paint board, with black ,grey and white base, then paint all the various metals I have over them. I've been meaning to do this for a while, but I guess this is the KUTA I needed.

I have an on going battle with dust and lint getting on everything I paint. I've grounded my work surface and plastic spray booth to help get rid of static electricity which attracts and holds dust. Beware of the clothes you wear when painting. Knitted clothes like sweat shirts give off lint like crazy. A tack cloth will collect and hold dust instead of launching it into the air like a normal dust cloth. I've considered getting something like a lab coat to wear to cover up my usual dusty clothes.

Or you could paint naked.
 :-\

Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2025, 06:10:33 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 12, 2025, 04:36:40 AMOr you could paint naked.
 :-\


Considering the detritus the human body leaves on everything it touches I doubt that would work even  :unsure:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 15, 2025, 11:22:51 AM
After the disaster that was my hamfisted paintwork SNAFU, we are now at the point where we were two weeks ago. Well, I tell a lie, we're slightly further along since I've started putting decals on.

Anyway, I printed another set of fuselage & wing bits after playing with print orientation a bit, and after the tedious repetition of work already done once before, ended up with this:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMrQyNcRnTIjBJnvGokdKaWk-Qpr24Rp-fXNarlzgqaqiHxDgmYLE7FZ-OWJaHaHZwmt_J74DauFzrJsHcY54_cu4hxvx3VSeK7pLX61Z-qUhQmefY=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNuEL9XaKpE_v_vb-MFK8eCLWPZyjTV9Qu1PPRmwJgPDrMbnvy77zpXAUez4xK3pmJiQ_pkKyRzG5LJ8px-PjSA8abh0OFdC21YSRArPjaAk9GwehA=w2400)

Now, the pictures do not do justice to the amount of dust, fingerprints, scratches and other imperfections present. I'll be honest here, this isn't one of my better efforts in the flesh. But, better finished than perfect (apparently), so I've soldiered on....

This time I went with Alclad Polished Aluminium over the obligatory black base, and used some Magnesium, High Speed Silver, Dull Aluminium, and High Shine Plus Aluminium to give a tiny bit of panel variation. I painted the bays in Dull Aluminium, and around the rocket motors with Stainless Steel (which didn't come out with the contrast I expected but I'll sort it with some weathering later. I was also much more rigorous in my approach to cleanliness in the paint booth (i.e. I gave it a much needed clean!) So its better than last time, but still only a 7/10. Also, since I had to reprint the compressor I decided to simplify my paintwork and just airbrush it with Molotov Liquid Chrome. Literally, just that... no primer or gloss or anything (no one can really see it anyway). And it looks pretty good! I love this stuff, its got to be the best chrome paint available, surely?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczM4gWoPJQ5wRP_D_t0eTWc2Ax2O9EjKDo8secyNrenLW04WFYEbA0jtsJLhEJw9Ge9SR5iHZKpKHUbZEHnKnR0cXH8Wh6oiiva-5v67xfRE7vHLRJ0=w2400)

So onto where it currently stands. Roundels and airframe numbers are done, as is the squadron insignia and a couple bits around the cockpit. I've also, as mentioned previously, gone with 66 Squadron markings. I decided on the striped tail look from the Meteor F.8 in the end, it'll really stand out amongst all the others on the shelf. There was a bit of bleed from the blue, but mainly in panel lines, so should be hidden when I give it a wash.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNwJFB8YICscTUKAIQpgU3XUZTGeTBQxY7LNl_C0TYOlzrJinHRXcD-gl0KY0TrKp8KGBlXYay8TWLZH1wHeFToc9txOYOCOI3OWCdJTmQ5fYXkQvs=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnPZ_3axHmGEQhOSOllUdEcTSqFoDvU920E4Ptt6OkdTyKxb7wwTl2D_VwCUy6a_MNXAGGNEr_0nHryfQoVhycptbGnfWp29AZ7TwB7myKKfMpPh8=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMqyo-91qhBBLe38Z-XGE1V9Q3r9qeS1mbb-wLNhgKEe05_yKqv_zolO-2s7KZC8oD08PpTK0Kza-UsMLDrk6u0j4yMl1Czor60RVGnOUUEya_xh1o=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNZUKvChPwfljIfsiTYwqnpm8RYgFkNBXv9V7-gfvCrSuPOtnEx5Fm1QThOffuZtCIqvq_-PuzulwSIta2ee5CuyTu9kN0LwTmpOs0RjwT2X1goVbA=w2400)

Pretty much everything apart from the landing bay doors is painted. Oh, the canopy needs doing still, but I think I'll leave that till last. Decalwise, its the tedium of putting feasible stencils and walkways on, then glossing and weathering. Not much weathering though, just the odd oil streak and heat effect I think. While I think about it I also need to paint a pair of Red Tops too. Er, and seats, must not forget the seats....

The aim is to have it done by next weekend so I can put it on the SIG stand at Midlands Air Museum on Sunday.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 15, 2025, 12:10:07 PM
Very shiny  :mellow:

Gondor
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2025, 02:40:57 PM
That's going to look great at Coventry.  :thumbsup:

Nice that you've squeezed the serial into a blank patch amongst a load of Saro Skeeters.  ;D
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 15, 2025, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2025, 02:40:57 PMThat's going to look great at Coventry.  :thumbsup:

Nice that you've squeezed the serial into a blank patch amongst a load of Saro Skeeters.  ;D
Skeeters? rafcommands.com shows its between Britannias and Vulcans.

Anyway, the serial numbers I'm using for the F.155T candidates came about because the Fantastic Plastic Vickers 559 decals have XM548 on them. And since that finished in 3rd place and I did the AW169 next which finished in 2nd place it got XM547. The big FD3 was obviously the prime candidate, but on the assumption the Ministry may have chosen the small offering, that's getting XM546, meaning when I finally do the bigger variant it will be XM545. I know the logic isn't entirely watertight but its what I'm working to. When I do the other birds they will get XM549>>>. Except the CF-105 and the Thin Wing Javelin, they'll get something appropriate for the timeframe.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2025, 12:06:12 AM
I always search here for serials https://www.ukserials.com/

and it has wall to wall Saro Skeeters from XM524 to XM565 with a few random gaps. The Britannias end at XM520 and Vulcans start at XM569.

It's a bit un-nerving if different web sites show different serials. :(
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 16, 2025, 12:43:47 AM
that would explain it, the rafcommands site has no mention of the Skeeters.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 16, 2025, 01:57:48 AM
It's whif-world anyway, and who is going to know those serial numbers when at a show anyway?
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2025, 06:12:07 AM
That is looking good  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2025, 07:17:37 AM
Quote from: Gondor on June 16, 2025, 01:57:48 AMIt's whif-world anyway, and who is going to know those serial numbers when at a show anyway?


Yes, it IS WhiffWorld but you can bet some JMN will come along and say 'Í know all the serials in the XM series, and the one you 've used for that  model was  really on a Skeeter'. 
 
And with a smirk on his face and said VERY loudly so everyone can hear.  :banghead:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Thorvic on June 16, 2025, 08:16:30 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 16, 2025, 12:43:47 AMthat would explain it, the rafcommands site has no mention of the Skeeters.
Thats only listing RAF serials, UK serials has the AAC and FAA serials too.

Suitable gaps can be hard to find, although some projects were assigned serials and can be found such as the TSR2, F-111K, AW681, yet P1154 not so
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Thorvic on June 16, 2025, 08:45:58 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 15, 2025, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2025, 02:40:57 PMThat's going to look great at Coventry.  :thumbsup:

Nice that you've squeezed the serial into a blank patch amongst a load of Saro Skeeters.  ;D
Skeeters? rafcommands.com shows its between Britannias and Vulcans.

Anyway, the serial numbers I'm using for the F.155T candidates came about because the Fantastic Plastic Vickers 559 decals have XM548 on them. And since that finished in 3rd place and I did the AW169 next which finished in 2nd place it got XM547. The big FD3 was obviously the prime candidate, but on the assumption the Ministry may have chosen the small offering, that's getting XM546, meaning when I finally do the bigger variant it will be XM545. I know the logic isn't entirely watertight but its what I'm working to. When I do the other birds they will get XM549>>>. Except the CF-105 and the Thin Wing Javelin, they'll get something appropriate for the timeframe.

In the range XM531 to XM552 are free as unassigned in the Saro Skeeter batch.

One to bare in mind is that the person doing the 559 decals for Fantastic plastic did the same as us lot and looked for a gap in the range, be it the web sites or the books.

However they didnt consider that the project was cancelled as part of the 1957 defense review so actual orders and thus serials would be a later date possibly closer to Buccaner and Sea Vixen serials.

The FD3 artwork actually had ZA436, ZA437 & ZA438 which happen to be free serials in the Tornado GR1 sequence from the mid 70 !!!,  so that artist was really looking to the future  :o
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 24, 2025, 08:05:47 AM
And here we are; I'm calling it done. I was going to give it an all over misting of satin but, quite frankly, it looks OK as it is and I really can't be bothered to expose myself to another SNAFU. Leave well enough alone etc.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczP72WPN1zEzNiNr-ZeUVZygi4Stu34oYcgEY18Xay4Lrti9WCIVnYv6IeaskxHmAXd5QjZE28IeAghkTknt8xMU64iWUJ045hMqPZ-sQYPl_QjmXmQ=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMldXk4Y-L4W4xJMlxHXR-dSsXhHtE-RH-JgD2JJxchwoP8qnl8kUjLuedLpV7YTNak_vd75v1trKIpYhJhL33XBrcqD2z0rD-mYEF7cCou4KufuIs=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMAN5A_eelTl4wzBwkPfyxRqQjApATKAtdog22h_Ptl6Nvez29TRl__rqjMAH8jtZHwPGJDTJoRM7D74b1VVazf_XU_R41qPMOJv1IuS6f-G_vFkIM=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNwUyAwUpIF7ZmfggC0V-EckUgjNtKmFQ9PuHFoy-HnALAp2TUM5lqJJy3L9Br_jC4vMm8yitdAuhuC_pBsN2tiexvTkfJmrsITKP7TyuCTOeB0xlQ=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNDD9Jsc25kc-dS7oMTHDC1kJ07qQibf9anYHbwz8T86X16KUpKjyRE9A_AZ__7e4lI5bt-IeDwACew1zvbvZMttO5jjyV6P6cXBlNNlLlcoOJcxvY=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMFqmdBikwubjb42D4aizgXdRzK_VlAYOdmVK9vTVXEL0sFhko_AZLHxvACVo_IatLRiLF6iAOc8curPePO23YkB6np6LSwDr1H4w58Upr2HHVp8Z0=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMf8HKUMdYWt-JYy4uujbJfhcC3vZhO7R23MujM64tjPm1Lk7SjxTw_W9w-ARQTj6WS-rteiX-Zk1vaaHcT6mkh09llGLqZHM8XrjduORHxZvCa2-Y=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPL4KZkMUmkvWafdXsK0fOWXA1v4mSacWZaHBMPsT251tFTha3R3UKUgCStDEGwNX2GW-_AA4mKitbCrgDdoeNLsHS3ofClsEjjmRa_OfdOYUcDjN0=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOk4Q-PW3j1_jhjM6DDLiAW3l6U0EHUXv04gadAd6Ln1WLbcFMLQwoKkEInkzBalM82Lv572Z4WcNO-7SWnwpF58kkMrJOx6CYgRTghoKYpiN5FrXk=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPwuNKT1Vgh-nnvTvjbFVI6_-4Srnyk70ygprNFkL--NNFooA6OuGFmNzrweDCS5pkxhZ1Q8YRlt_juxQpyRs44iKdawg765T8OtFEoKfdfxRsJ0Bc=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMMizlWlbm4g-yVkmXsx5Mk7jtEk__TX9S50tKkUxE_uQMNoEURCfveGVfZ-I75hYu30hFYKopw_SubzcmShJRxW3nKTtWlWOR8YsuNEQDWl8AU7wA=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPMNk_XhtEGn4V3a9AWD3ywoXhOl0czOU54l-v5LfA2Y7w7UGJuaOWoAUaoDGRddydELhicbPmLSm6P8tJ-cVvim8PSEdvpEZHEEDF3jh7PpFAg4bU=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOD_lIHYUPacX3KPQPfWVODIPbHTKoJZ6DUmVGCB0-KjL8SPL3hqEeYjn6qKHk8fZoYsIglr6VGsoqOao3tgJyDPlg4i7nRFUD6nEXq_HZ_pzNvfHw=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczNnl5GudU3ekXMBd37tBYiau0k1YdBLJcetGZiSJ8kbAcwP9a5OBPT6V59qLaQmePDqNwXWN0mV3pCTQmQ6vauM1YxUFgZPD1YTC88lPynldjDxjPc=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPKgYXpAlvCt-QjfurAlsejIPGSgItZH0Y03dK9yamN3IcDqT2FpkBAC1YuqhpAR4z5JSXuJ-eXY_gmPatpTiCdOLJEsCSlnq934HGF5cBlwiDuRg4=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOBqK8OdQQ3zy5YZzUWOtnD1Ga-TR6EEchL-44lAe1ggKujNQr2kV_HQgEgPX1Ivla6kP6tFMeXhhmeC60pTYQerLdTamPn9OyFZYhFdpMztDJCnew=w2400)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOPYeb6ef7ct57bm578D7f7NbMGPeQpmEnz1tyDMc_me2ZKbaeHgPK89yKrS6l-7YTqXniV_YZtESmq9gzAfpcu3x3e3RHYgz3UpzOvG6cOO_Lxg8A=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczONICp850rhLzFx88lFdZtQrvCOmHT5UdJW8xStcWPqHbId5kwLoK8rt50VQFVqyR6M-m02rS3IbrYiTsm9bCXda-hB7zG3AkzHD1lxWEVOroZzyjw=w2400)

And as a cheeky bonus, here it is with some of its competitors....

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOOh459JWGeV3_06BeiDb8AnCvdtPTD6GjaGzpJZvVGRQwqS8fLUSz4CjrZek7znS_oesIXTZpgqty3gDq73HHgCRuJHjyvinVCKfZMPIjGETU8o00=w2400)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczO9jtpnMHv1TZHs175hEPkwfhpnSNMzvCFnIlkEzk9oGGBKL2B5vShKGjURyZgcwYQndUd8i3MsJbC2bvr9GbqnuE_lD9_1gA438thwtkdI6kbMs5U=w2400)

If anyone wants an FD3 Small then get in touch. £40 + £3.50p&p within UK. I just need to finish writing the instructions and they're good to go.

Next up, I need to finish some non-whifs. After that, I've obviously made a start on the Hawker family, but I think I may go across The Pond for the first time in my modelling career. I fancy the MDD 265-1. I also intend to do some non-NMFs for a while.


Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Weaver on June 24, 2025, 09:43:19 AM
And it looked every bit as good in the "flesh", as it were, on Sunday as it looks here. :thumbsup:

One of your customers should do a late-service one, in grey/green cammo with modern missiles and 1435 Flight (Falklands defence flight) markings (pinch them from an Airfix F-4M).

Re serials, an alternative to looking for gaps in the real-world sequence is to work out what aircraft your what-if would have been procured instead of, and then use a serial from one of those. For instance, if the ER.103Cs were bought instead of F-4Ms, then use an F-4M serial.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Rheged on June 24, 2025, 09:55:08 AM
I wouldn't worry about discrepancies in serial numbers.  A cunningly constructed backstory explaining deliberate obfuscation and creative disinformation on the part of "Their Airships"  should sort the matter out.     Any JMN inclined to take the matter further should be hit with a hard stare exercising the full force of  your disdain.................and if that fails, you and your colleagues just point at him and laugh at  his "lack of understanding"

I like very much what you have created here!
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 24, 2025, 10:42:58 AM
A much better looker than the FD3 Large to my mind.   :thumbsup:

The big looked just TOO big.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Wardukw on June 24, 2025, 11:10:54 AM
What a fantastic result 👏
Love the paint work  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 24, 2025, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 24, 2025, 08:05:47 AMIf anyone wants an FD3 Small then get in touch. £40 + £3.50p&p within UK. I just need to finish writing the instructions and they're good to go.


It just so happens that I get paid on Thursday, you may get will receive a PayPal payment then.  :rolleyes:

Gondor
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Mossie on June 24, 2025, 11:52:27 AM
Beautiful machine and model. Tempted... <_<
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Thorvic on June 24, 2025, 01:14:42 PM
Looks superb Stuart, fantastic build and another nice one for the F155T collection  :bow:  :bow:

Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 24, 2025, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: Gondor on June 24, 2025, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on June 24, 2025, 08:05:47 AMIf anyone wants an FD3 Small then get in touch. £40 + £3.50p&p within UK. I just need to finish writing the instructions and they're good to go.


It just so happens that I get paid on Thursday, you may get will receive a PayPal payment then.  :rolleyes:

Gondor
It also just so happens that I am printing out some instructions..... and may have 4 kits ready to go otherwise.. (¬_¬)
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Gondor on June 27, 2025, 04:43:49 AM
That probe under the nose looks very much like one used by a Lightning, so I have ordered one and a set of Redtops to go with this kit. If the probe is from something else, I can always use the one I have bought for a Lightning.

Gondor
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: scautomoton on June 27, 2025, 04:54:40 AM
Quote from: Gondor on June 27, 2025, 04:43:49 AMThat probe under the nose looks very much like one used by a Lightning, so I have ordered one and a set of Redtops to go with this kit. If the probe is from something else, I can always use the one I have bought for a Lightning.

Gondor
yes, it is indeed from a Lightning, since it is about the right length. Also, the kit will come with Red Tops, they will just be solid grey resin without a clear seeker head.

Also, I am now selling my wares as Machina Models and have set up a website where purchases can be made, please note the link in my sig below. And a sub-forum has also been created, so going forward all my "brand" builds will be in there, whilst my personal builds will be in the usual place.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: HarryPhishnuts on June 27, 2025, 08:42:55 AM
That is an amazing build  :bow:  :cheers:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: NARSES2 on June 28, 2025, 07:22:41 AM
Quote from: HarryPhishnuts on June 27, 2025, 08:42:55 AMThat is an amazing build  :bow:  :cheers:

I couldn't have put that any better  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: su27rules on June 28, 2025, 09:01:27 AM
 :wub:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :mellow:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: philp on June 28, 2025, 10:12:03 AM
Brilliant looking build.  Saw this in the Whiffies nomination post and had to check it out.

Great job all around.
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 28, 2025, 10:38:43 AM
Some of  us saw it at the Coventry Show, for real.

Totally dropped jaws all round!  :o
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: The Rat on June 28, 2025, 03:26:45 PM
My gob is officially smacked!  :wub:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: DogfighterZen on June 29, 2025, 03:38:11 PM
Looks very good indeed!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: chrisonord on June 30, 2025, 02:34:25 AM
I have been watching this from day one Stuart, and I am very very impressed. I think I will have to have one, and soon.  :wub:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on July 07, 2025, 09:27:58 AM
Simply superb construction and finishing - what a beauty! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/72 3d Printed Fairey ER.103C or Fairey Delta 3 "Small"
Post by: Old Wombat on July 07, 2025, 06:41:11 PM
Ooh! Shiny!  :mellow:

And the decals look excellent.  :thumbsup:

Not my kind of aircraft but the build looks fantastic!  :bow:  :bow:  :party: