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Title: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 02, 2024, 04:18:07 AM
The idea for this build has been bouncing around in my head since the modem packed it in.
It's shape has always made me think of the Sandcrawler from Star Wars.
T-34 is 1/48 and is an interior detail kit.  I'll be leaving all that out and scaleoramaing it into 1/72.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54111463553_faccc57524_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoUa)Polar T-34 Start 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoUa) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54111463543_f0de87801d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoTZ)Polar T-34 Start 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoTZ) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on November 02, 2024, 11:14:11 AM
This will be good πŸ‘  :wacko:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 03, 2024, 02:25:09 AM
I began construction today with the T-34 hull.  When Hobby Boss say "full detail" they really mean it.  I think everything that would be inside a real on is there apart from the crew and their personal effects.
None of it is going in, but I have had to add some styrene angle in order to give something for the ends of the suspension arms to locate to in lieu of the springs i've left out.

I am building the V12 engine.  But not for this.  It's going to fit nicely into a 1/25 car.

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Mossie on November 04, 2024, 02:07:55 AM
Snow crawler, nice. :thumbsup:

I'm intrigued to know what will be a scaled 27 litre engine is getting bludgeoned into.  I'm reminded of The Beast with the Merlin engine.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 04, 2024, 03:42:28 AM
T-34 engine is 38.8 litres.
By my calculations scaleoramaing 38.8 litres from 1/48 to 1/25 results in a 5.5 litre engine.

38.8/(48/25)3=5.482

Today I assembled 10 road wheels and carried out glue trials on the modem case.  It has ABS+PC moulded inside.  I glued small pieces of evergreen styrene to the inside with both Revell Contacta and Tamiya Extra Thin.  I shall discover if either worked tomorrow.

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Mossie on November 04, 2024, 04:50:13 AM
Ah, I'd assumed the T-34 was 1/35. I've probably guffed up the calculations there too.

Yep, using your formula, a 1/35 engine would work out around 14 litres. Still, might make for a beast if you ever find a 1/35 T-34
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: buzzbomb on November 04, 2024, 01:26:49 PM
I like re-use of stuff builds, so interested to see where the Modem case addition takes the build
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 10, 2024, 03:45:28 AM
I have already built a 1/25 Hot Rod with a 1/35 T54 V12 engine.  Can't remember what capacity that scaled out at.
I also have a 1/35 T34 engine which will be put into a 1/25 Pick Up which will be transporting the Hot Rod with the tank engine.
And then there is the box with the two 1/24 Airfix Napier Sabres in.  They are awaiting me finding a cheap Mickey Thompsons Challenger One (Revell are bound to repop it again soon).

But enough of future plans.  Back to the present.

I have cleaned up all the road wheels, desprued and cleaned up all the suspension arms, attached them to a modified hull, and glued together two idlers and two sprockets.

As with the Jawas' Sandcrawler there will be a ramp on one end of the vehicle from which a smaller vehicle will egress.  This was going to be based on a 1/76 Revell (ex Matchbox) M16 halftrack but when I went to the cupboard to get it out My eyes fell on the ACE 1/72 Stolly I had forgotten was there...

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 10:08:57 AM
The stolly is prefect for that..it looks sci-fi even those it's older than me ..probably Chris too πŸ˜†
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2024, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 10:08:57 AMThe stolly is prefect for that..it looks sci-fi even those it's older than me ..probably Chris too πŸ˜†


But not older than me.  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2024, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 10:08:57 AMThe stolly is prefect for that..it looks sci-fi even those it's older than me ..probably Chris too πŸ˜†


But not older than me.  ;D
Hehehehe..Kit my friend I could say something about age and dinosaurs and you having one aa a pet but I won't  ;D  ;D πŸ˜‰
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2024, 04:36:41 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 03:37:39 PMHehehehe..Kit my friend I could say something about age and dinosaurs and you having one aa a pet but I won't  ;D  ;D πŸ˜‰


How do you know I didn't?  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 06:14:39 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2024, 04:36:41 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 10, 2024, 03:37:39 PMHehehehe..Kit my friend I could say something about age and dinosaurs and you having one aa a pet but I won't  ;D  ;D πŸ˜‰


How do you know I didn't?  ;)  ;D
Hahahaha πŸ˜† πŸ˜‚
I'm guessing here πŸ€” 😏
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 11, 2024, 02:58:13 AM
I started on the T34 tracks today and building the Stolly.
Tracks are link and length and are easy compared to building the six wheeler.
Someone had glued the lower hull parts together already (it could have been me but the kit was pre-loved and I have no memory of doing it) so I dove straight in to sticking on tiny suspension parts.  One side is drying.
I shouldn't be surprised at the complexity and breakdown into tiny parts as i've built 1/72 ACE vehicles before.  Well, one anyway.
So far so good as i've managed to find those I have dropped on the floor...
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on November 12, 2024, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: zenrat on November 11, 2024, 02:58:13 AMI started on the T34 tracks today and building the Stolly.
Tracks are link and length and are easy compared to building the six wheeler.
Someone had glued the lower hull parts together already (it could have been me but the kit was pre-loved and I have no memory of doing it) so I dove straight in to sticking on tiny suspension parts.  One side is drying.
I shouldn't be surprised at the complexity and breakdown into tiny parts as i've built 1/72 ACE vehicles before.  Well, one anyway.
So far so good as i've managed to find those I have dropped on the floor...


Coming along well, then... and good that you were quicker than the Carpet Monster. :thumbsup:

I reckon Kit was there helping with the Earth Cooling Project...  :angel:  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2024, 05:15:06 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on November 12, 2024, 08:44:24 PMI reckon Kit was there helping with the Earth Cooling Project...  :angel:  ;D


Might have...........................  ;)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on November 20, 2024, 08:23:02 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 13, 2024, 05:15:06 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on November 12, 2024, 08:44:24 PMI reckon Kit was there helping with the Earth Cooling Project...  :angel:  ;D


Might have...........................  ;)
With all the tryes ive destroyed doing burn outs I haven't helped either πŸ™ƒ
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 21, 2024, 01:57:40 AM
Tracks are on-going.
I take back what I said about link and length being quicker and easier.
While that might be true on an OOB build in this case i've lowered the ride height and am having to go slowly to make sure the tracks fit to the wheels.
It's be easier if I had a set of individual link tracks as I would just have to build them and then drape them over the wheels.


Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on November 27, 2024, 04:04:54 AM
Almost done one track.  I may have to modify the idler sprocket mount in order to get the required position for the idler with the lowered ride height.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on November 27, 2024, 03:19:28 PM
It's coming along mate πŸ‘
Better than mine but should be able to change that tomorrow  all going well ☺️
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 07, 2024, 04:08:02 AM
Second track nearly complete.  After which I should be able to get to work on extending the lower hull up to meet the body.
And I really should get on with the Stolly.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 09, 2024, 02:45:22 AM
Tracks completed.  Lower hull extension commenced.

Stolly now has complete suspension and steering on both sides.  This thing is fiddley but it goes together well once you fettle the parts (mould separation lines, sprue attachments, shock absorbers too fat to fit through holes in suspension arms...).  I'm interested to see if it'll have all six wheels on the ground without anything needing to be adjusted.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 09, 2024, 03:53:45 AM
What scale is the Stolly and where are the pics?
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 09, 2024, 11:04:03 AM
Yeah...where's the pics bud ? ..huh?  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 10, 2024, 03:19:15 AM
Stolly is 1/72.

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2024, 06:19:21 AM
Same as mine, those dampers are too big to fit through the wishbones for sure.. :(
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 11, 2024, 03:22:08 AM
I made 'em fit.  Fold a piece of wet'n'dry and then sand the gaps between the dampers.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 11, 2024, 06:02:01 AM
Hmmmm, that sounds worth a try, thanks.  :thumbsup:

The real thing was a pretty tight fit as I recall too. And NAFF all room to get in there to fit them too!  :banghead:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: buzzbomb on December 11, 2024, 01:10:24 PM
My minds eye has a picture, be keen to see if it matches with your reality  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 11, 2024, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: buzzbomb on December 11, 2024, 01:10:24 PMMy minds eye has a picture, be keen to see if it matches with your reality  :thumbsup:
Is that possible either way πŸ€” 😏
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 18, 2024, 04:06:23 AM
Put the cab interior of the Stolly together today.  Separate accelerator, brake, and clutch pedals plus gear and handbrake levers.  All in 1/72.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 18, 2024, 10:27:03 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 18, 2024, 04:06:23 AMPut the cab interior of the Stolly together today.  Separate accelerator, brake, and clutch pedals plus gear and handbrake levers.  All in 1/72.

:o  :o  :o ...oh yeah no thanks ya very much...I doubt if even try doing that mate ...good on ya for doing that πŸ€ͺ  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 19, 2024, 02:13:15 AM
I did it all for you Dukwy...

 ;)

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 19, 2024, 10:17:17 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 19, 2024, 02:13:15 AMI did it all for you Dukwy...

 ;)


:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Oh your such a lovely person mate  :wacko:
Hey that means I don't ever have to 😁..sweet  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 19, 2024, 08:48:49 PM
Nice when someone is willing to take one for everyone else.
Your sacrifice is appreciated, Fred! :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 21, 2024, 03:32:58 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54218376808_7998ffcdfa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qB6mu9)Stolly WIP 21-12-24 (https://flic.kr/p/2qB6mu9) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 21, 2024, 05:37:15 AM
He'll NEVER get through the hatch!  :o

I know them well, and it was tight for me!
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: buzzbomb on December 21, 2024, 03:28:06 PM
Well if you need to see how much fun you could have with a Stolly, let Mr Hewes and his crew take you on a journey.

There are other vids around the restoration back to a driveable condition. Even the picking up the original vehicles is a lot of fun. Ever seen a Stolly drive missing two wheels off one side ?
One of the best channels on Youtube for me.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 21, 2024, 03:44:29 PM
It's got no drive on the centre axle, so it's only a 6 x 4. No wonder it wouldn't climb out of the pond.

Best of luck fixing that, it's a BIG job getting to that centre final drive.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 21, 2024, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 21, 2024, 03:44:29 PMIt's got no drive on the centre axle, so it's only a 6 x 4. No wonder it wouldn't climb out of the pond.

Best of luck fixing that, it's a BIG job getting to that centre final drive.
He'll get it sorted Kit ..he can rebuild Chieftain engines without a workshop manual..Joe's a pretty talented gent for a young man ...been a subscriber to his channel since day 1 😊..and I'm thinking he's sold it to another you tuber/armour resto friend of his along with one or two others πŸ€”
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 28, 2024, 12:28:00 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54231346796_d0a45a8304_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qCeQ1C)Polar T34 WIP 28-12-24 (https://flic.kr/p/2qCeQ1C) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 28, 2024, 01:46:39 AM
Erm........ WHAT is that?  :o
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Old Wombat on December 28, 2024, 02:14:29 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 28, 2024, 01:46:39 AMErm........ WHAT is that?  :o

Well, according to the writing next to the Lego SWAT officer, it's a "SURFboard". Weirdest surfboard I've ever seen, but, then, it was made by Motorola. :blink:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 28, 2024, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 28, 2024, 02:14:29 AMWeirdest surfboard I've ever seen, but, then, it was made by Motorola

And Fred...  ;)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 28, 2024, 11:50:45 PM
A modem on tracks  :o  :o  ;D
Kits question still remains how ever  :lol:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Gondor on December 29, 2024, 02:25:26 AM
Mobile wi-fi?  :-\  :rolleyes:  :unsure:

Gondor
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 29, 2024, 02:39:11 AM
Do none of you read the threads you are posting to?

Quote from: zenrat on November 02, 2024, 04:18:07 AMThe idea for this build has been bouncing around in my head since the modem packed it in.
It's shape has always made me think of the Sandcrawler from Star Wars.
T-34 is 1/48 and is an interior detail kit.  I'll be leaving all that out and scaleoramaing it into 1/72.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54111463553_faccc57524_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoUa)Polar T-34 Start 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoUa) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54111463543_f0de87801d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoTZ)Polar T-34 Start 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2qrDoTZ) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr


It's an Antarctic Crawler (or a Snow Crawler from an ice planet - not decided yet).  The modem is just supplying the basic shape.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: NARSES2 on December 29, 2024, 05:41:20 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 29, 2024, 02:39:11 AMDo none of you read the threads you are posting to?


I think most Wiffers have a short memory span mate, it comes from the fact that their brains, or whatever passes for one in my case, are constantly bouncing around and coming up with new ideas and then drift off down another completely different path as soon as that idea crops up  ;)  ;D  Apparently Einstein had the same problem, but learnt to control it  :angel:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 29, 2024, 06:01:42 AM
But I've no idea what a Sandcrawler should look like anyway, let alone a Snowcrawler variant.  :-\
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on December 29, 2024, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 29, 2024, 06:01:42 AMBut I've no idea what a Sandcrawler should look like anyway, let alone a Snowcrawler variant.  :-\
Clearly a Gentleman who hasn't seen Starwars  ;D
Or remembers it 😁😁
But there's also the simple fact Chris is right βœ…οΈ
Even this morning drinking my coffee with my feet up I've been thinking about ideas πŸ’‘ πŸ€” πŸ™ƒ
Love it πŸ˜€
Kit do a search for Jawa sand crawler..you'll find it dead easy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: kerick on December 29, 2024, 10:32:14 AM
Focus padawan, focus........
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Gondor on December 29, 2024, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 29, 2024, 02:39:11 AMDo none of you read the threads you are posting to?


Sometimes, but we choose to ignore them at our whim, as if we were cats and only want to do what we want when we want to.

Gondor
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on December 29, 2024, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Gondor on December 29, 2024, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 29, 2024, 02:39:11 AMDo none of you read the threads you are posting to?


Sometimes, but we choose to ignore them at our whim, as if we were cats and only want to do what we want when we want to.

Gondor

What He said. ;D

SHINY THING!!
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on December 30, 2024, 03:21:36 AM
Jawa Sandcrawler, as featured in Star Wars.

(https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/databank_sandcrawler_01_169_55acf6cb.jpeg?region=0%2C49%2C1560%2C780)

(https://external-preview.redd.it/hFjEO3FBU-smIbbp0esclNIxUOoPxLxDzxGo4EcmIyo.jpg?auto=webp&s=722df4e062a5de1d88fb36b302d9d57b8ded057c)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 30, 2024, 05:47:53 AM
Aaaaah right. NOW I know what you're all on about. Thanks.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: tahsin on December 30, 2024, 12:47:01 PM
It is also what-iffed as sea and space going ships.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 01, 2025, 03:19:29 AM
Glued some more styrene to the modem.

Glued the glazing into the window holes of the Stolly.  This isn't as easy as it sounds as I had to cut them from a sheet of thin plastic, fettle them to fit, and then find a glue which worked.  After trying and rejecting Tamiya extra thin and PVA I resorted to very carefully using gel super glue.
I then coated them with Future.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2025, 05:39:24 AM
A handy hint there Fred, thanks.  :thumbsup:

I'll have to do the same to mine, if I EVER get round to finishing it, that is.  :banghead:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 01, 2025, 10:58:38 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 01, 2025, 03:19:29 AMGlued some more styrene to the modem.

Glued the glazing into the window holes of the Stolly.  This isn't as easy as it sounds as I had to cut them from a sheet of thin plastic, fettle them to fit, and then find a glue which worked.  After trying and rejecting Tamiya extra thin and PVA I resorted to very carefully using gel super glue.
I then coated them with Future.

Mate ..ain't there a CA glue out just for clear parts ?
This I might have to look into if there is.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 01, 2025, 11:17:17 AM
AIUI, normal superglue can be ok if there is enough air movement to clear away the fumes that cause the fogging.
So a canopy is going to be fraught because the fuselage is closed up, but something open on both sides might be ok.
'Might'; there are a raft of variables and some folk don't have problems, whilst others do.

Putting Klear or similar on first can limit the fogging, and it's better if you can wipe the fogging off afterwards (see: canopies, above) but 'you pays your money and you takes your chances'.

I would avoid it myself and go for something less inimical, but it's an individual choice.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 01, 2025, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on January 01, 2025, 11:17:17 AMAIUI, normal superglue can be ok if there is enough air movement to clear away the fumes that cause the fogging.
So a canopy is going to be fraught because the fuselage is closed up, but something open on both sides might be ok.
'Might'; there are a raft of variables and some folk don't have problems, whilst others do.

Putting Klear or similar on first can limit the fogging, and it's better if you can wipe the fogging off afterwards (see: canopies, above) but 'you pays your money and you takes your chances'.

I would avoid it myself and go for something less inimical, but it's an individual choice.

For things like canopies...windscreens I just use Tamiya extra thin...it does the job well just for stuff like clear sheet styrene..normal glues won't look at that stuff and I've had a bugger of a time gluing that in the past..so like Fred CA got used and with disastrous results πŸ˜€
So clear gluing CA would be great πŸ‘
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 01, 2025, 11:48:17 AM
There's probably something Specific and Bespoke (translation: Expensive for a Very Small Quantity) out there, it'll be the tracking it down that will be the hassle...

I have seen, in the Micro catalogue IIRC, mention of a Jewelers Watch cement, made to glue the glass onto watches.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 02, 2025, 12:04:58 AM
Yep I'm thinking about this and looking about this and yep ..it's possible it was a brain fart at some point πŸ‘‰
But next week I'm heading to Auckland and I'm gonna check out Hobbycity which is where I'm sure I've seen it ..I know there's foam safe CA out there so I'll check out where that is on the shelf πŸ˜‰
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 02, 2025, 02:03:16 AM
I used superglue because I couldn't be arsed mixing a small amount of 5 minute epoxy for each window.
But there was no clouding as I only used a very tiny amount and then made sure any fumes could escape.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 02, 2025, 02:21:51 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 02, 2025, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2025, 02:03:16 AMI used superglue because I couldn't be arsed mixing a small amount of 5 minute epoxy for each window.
But there was no clouding as I only used a very tiny amount and then made sure any fumes could escape.
Yep ..a thing I would have also done ...slow time setting glues can be a pain especially when you don't want something to move or even risk it .
Unlike my mate Colin ..broke his sunnies..CA'ed em back together..thought "yup those are sweet" then put em on ..yep..stuck em to his cheek ..wally  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 02, 2025, 11:52:17 AM
Yeah, the sort of thing you only do the once. But that's enough!  :rolleyes:
Don't use CA then rub your eye; even if you don't stick things together, the fumes are a pain - in both respects.  :banghead:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: NARSES2 on January 03, 2025, 06:26:16 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 02, 2025, 10:45:09 AMUnlike my mate Colin ..broke his sunnies..CA'ed em back together..thought "yup those are sweet" then put em on ..yep..stuck em to his cheek ..wally  ;D  ;D

Made me chuckle  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 04, 2025, 04:55:57 AM
I regularly superglue my forefinger or rudefinger to the thumb of my left hand.
It's just another hazard of this hobby...

 ;)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 04, 2025, 10:37:00 AM
πŸ˜† 🀣..yep ..there was a time when no matter what PE or resin parts I'd glue together there'd be a finger print somewhere  ;D
I'm much more cautious these days  ;)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 05, 2025, 04:38:28 AM
Progress today.
Glued some more styrene I beams to the ABS modem.  These will form the foundation of the extended front and loading ramp section.
I also masked the Stolly glazing (without dislodging any panes) and glued the cab together.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 06, 2025, 03:46:13 AM
More construction today.

Extending the front.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54249074452_33c009dbf1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qDNFPS)Polar T34 WIP 06-01-2025 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2qDNFPS) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Stolly docking bay.  Not yet fixed in place.
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Rear crew access ramp location.
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Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 06, 2025, 09:16:39 AM
This is neat πŸ‘Œ πŸ˜€
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: scooter on January 06, 2025, 12:38:48 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/mrCiBCRQd40AAAAd/sml-jawa.gif)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: buzzbomb on January 06, 2025, 02:16:01 PM
Now its coming together...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: kerick on January 06, 2025, 02:29:52 PM
A well ventilated sand crawler!
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 12, 2025, 03:12:07 AM
It's getting bigger.
The front/rear overhang balance displeased me so I have added a bridge up top.  Ramp is only a mock up to give the general idea and yes, the Stolly will get wheels.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54261299711_ae5da28d00_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qETkYc)Polar T-34 WIP 12-01-25 (https://flic.kr/p/2qETkYc) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Huey is just perched there to see how it fits.  Does it need a helipad?  Possibly not but it would solve the question "what to do about the space at the back?".
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Old Wombat on January 12, 2025, 06:32:48 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 12, 2025, 03:12:07 AMPossibly not but it would solve the question "what to do about the space at the back?".

That's where a jumble of air-conditioner units, generators, water storage tanks & purification units, & elevator motors, plus a small forest of communications antennae & towers, goes. ;)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 12, 2025, 10:59:43 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on January 12, 2025, 06:32:48 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 12, 2025, 03:12:07 AMPossibly not but it would solve the question "what to do about the space at the back?".

That's where a jumble of air-conditioner units, generators, water storage tanks & purification units, & elevator motors, plus a small forest of communications antennae & towers, goes. ;)
Plus a heli pad  ;D  ;D
Gotta have the wiggle room to land  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 12, 2025, 08:18:16 PM
Do what they did for the ATC(H)s in Vietnam - a helipad over the troop well. Or in this case, the jumble of gubbins mentioned by Guy.  :thumbsup:
Would it be a chopper though, or some sort of Skimmer/Anti-Grav hopper?
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 13, 2025, 03:43:40 AM
Autogyro?
Can only fly when the Antarctic gales are blowing...

More construction today.  Ordered more sheet styrene.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 19, 2025, 04:28:28 AM
Thinking (out loud) about colours today.

The Stolly has red wheels.  They have already been painted.
First thought about the rest was Orange for visibility in the snow.  But if there is snow then its freezing and so why would you take an amphibious vehicle?
So, it's an expedition across an Antarctic landmass exposed by a melting icecap.
It's a military expedition but for scientific purposes so no camo (or weapons) and as its a joint services expedition colours suggestive of Navy, Army, Air Force, or Marines should be avoided.
Stolly and Crawler schemes will match.
I think some orange should be maintained for hi-viz purposes but not a large amount.  Maybe just the Stolly cab and some trim, and the bridge of the Crawler.  For the rest i'm currently thinking Sky Blue.  But then it might end up looking like it's sponsored by Gulf Oil.

Hmmmm.  Desert Pink?

What colour is the exposed Antarctic landmass likely to be?  Will there be soil or does the ice sit on top of rock?

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Old Wombat on January 19, 2025, 06:39:52 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 19, 2025, 04:28:28 AMThinking (out loud) about colours today.

The Stolly has red wheels.  They have already been painted.
First thought about the rest was Orange for visibility in the snow.  But if there is snow then its freezing and so why would you take an amphibious vehicle?
So, it's an expedition across an Antarctic landmass exposed by a melting icecap.
It's a military expedition but for scientific purposes so no camo (or weapons) and as its a joint services expedition colours suggestive of Navy, Army, Air Force, or Marines should be avoided.
Stolly and Crawler schemes will match.
I think some orange should be maintained for hi-viz purposes but not a large amount.  Maybe just the Stolly cab and some trim, and the bridge of the Crawler.  For the rest i'm currently thinking Sky Blue.  But then it might end up looking like it's sponsored by Gulf Oil.

Hmmmm.  Desert Pink?

What colour is the exposed Antarctic landmass likely to be?  Will there be soil or does the ice sit on top of rock?

Like this;

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bfff7624165d471290a46b315a255ee122e2cd12/0_173_4608_2765/master/4608.jpg?width=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=b958fd1bcea5e8d3c54fad5bac724771)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/04/antarctic-plant-cover-growing-at-dramatic-rate-as-climate-heats (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/04/antarctic-plant-cover-growing-at-dramatic-rate-as-climate-heats)

And this;

(https://images.nature.com/lw1200/magazine-assets/d41586-024-03219-2/d41586-024-03219-2_27698538.jpg)


Or like this;

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Tk74wsIMtRw/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwE7CK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAy0IARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD8AEB-AH-CYAC0AWKAgwIABABGGUgYChRMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAksvn6FjQbmfcD4onmGSpOizDQHQ)

Volcanic sand, dirt, rocks & pebbles.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 19, 2025, 07:03:13 AM
I bet it's still cold though. :(
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rheged on January 19, 2025, 07:16:08 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 19, 2025, 04:28:28 AMThinking (out loud) about colours today.


Hmmmm.  Desert Pink?

What colour is the exposed Antarctic landmass likely to be?  Will there be soil or does the ice sit on top of rock?



This short video shows the McMurdo DRY VALLEYS in Antarctica;  it may or may not help.  It seems to be all granite stones of varying size     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II7edARSvvk
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 19, 2025, 12:59:05 PM
Colour wise its a lot of grays ..light medium and dark..off white smow and  greens for the foliage...when summer hits and the flowers bloom ..them it's bloody near rainbow time .
With the climate being so yoyo now colours are being seem now which have never been seen before. 
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Mossie on January 20, 2025, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: zenrat on January 19, 2025, 04:28:28 AMBut if there is snow then its freezing and so why would you take an amphibious vehicle?
So, it's an expedition across an Antarctic landmass exposed by a melting icecap.

If you're exploring coastal areas, (where there's likely to be exposed landmass), the Stolly could come in handy for traversing beaches and any slushy ice bridges.

Also, melted ice and snow has to somewhere. If there are sudden melts there could be floods of meltwater where the Stoly would be useful again.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 21, 2025, 01:37:54 AM
Thanks folks.
I was thinking ahead about weathering.  Whether it was grey or red (volcanic or iron ore).
It looks like Iceland.

I'm currently concentrating on painting the Stolly bay interior as i want to glue it in place and once its there it'll be impossible to paint well.
Its basic - green floors and white walls and ceiling but the demarkations have to be neat as they can be seen if someone peeks inside.
Detail is minimal - a personnel door, walkways, ribs, ladders to be added - but again enough to give the idea i've made an effort.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 25, 2025, 02:07:23 AM
Stolly Bay installed today.

More thoughts about colour.  Mixing Green (army) and Blue (Navy and Airforce) gives Russian Cockpit Green (or turquoise, or teal, or aqua)...

...but maybe a grey ( a colour used by all services) might be better.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 26, 2025, 12:37:00 AM
Break the trend mate ...paint this bugger in something which makes ya eyes pop 😳 πŸ˜ƒ
Hell multiple colours 😍
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 26, 2025, 04:03:14 AM
Started painting the Stolly.
Orange cab and upper body.
Had to clamp and reglue the Stolly bay as I missed part of a seam.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 26, 2025, 08:43:16 PM
This is gonna be getting my vote I'm suspecting πŸ˜†
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 27, 2025, 03:24:25 AM
Still plenty of scope for me to f**k something up...

 ;)
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 27, 2025, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: zenrat on January 27, 2025, 03:24:25 AMStill plenty of scope for me to f**k something up...

 ;)
Mate that's a particular skill we all have πŸ˜† 🀣
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 27, 2025, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 27, 2025, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: zenrat on January 27, 2025, 03:24:25 AMStill plenty of scope for me to f**k something up...

 ;)
Mate that's a particular skill we all have πŸ˜† 🀣

Lemme tellya a series of stories... yeah, maybe not - we haven't got all week...  :rolleyes:  ;D

Specially the parts when I have to make wholesale changes, or fix basic mistakes when the thing is about to be transferred up and all but ready for the final clear coat... :banghead:

*Sigh*  Still, it keeps me off the streets.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 28, 2025, 03:04:45 AM
Some PSR today.  Specifically to judge if I should fill the moulded in manufacturers logos or plate over them.

Now the Corsair is finished I can concentrate fully on this.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 28, 2025, 10:57:15 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: kerick on January 28, 2025, 12:09:42 PM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on January 27, 2025, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 27, 2025, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: zenrat on January 27, 2025, 03:24:25 AMStill plenty of scope for me to f**k something up...

 ;)
Mate that's a particular skill we all have πŸ˜† 🀣

Lemme tellya a series of stories... yeah, maybe not - we haven't got all week...  :rolleyes:  ;D

Specially the parts when I have to make wholesale changes, or fix basic mistakes when the thing is about to be transferred up and all but ready for the final clear coat... :banghead:

*Sigh*  Still, it keeps me off the streets.

That's what I tell my wife after I buy kits or tools!
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: buzzbomb on January 28, 2025, 01:34:55 PM
Hey...nice working on the Stolly... so am I, the Accurate Armour one I foolishly bought not knowing about Airfix releasing a styrene one  ;D

The entire concept of this makes me smile.. really like how it is coming along
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 28, 2025, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: zenrat on January 28, 2025, 03:04:45 AMSpecifically to judge if I should fill the moulded in manufacturers logos or plate over them.

Plating over is always easier, IMHO.
It would also give a bit of detail and break up whatever plain surface it goes onto; and who'd to say it shouldn't be there?
Less time and faff, more time to do other bits.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 29, 2025, 12:34:13 PM
If the manufacturers mark is cool and futuristic looking or can be made to look more futuristic then leave it Fred ...like Rick said..it will break up the the plain side of things nicely.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on January 30, 2025, 01:32:36 AM
More painting on the Stolly today.
I figure it won't take much more to finish it and then at least i'll have part of the whole ready to post should I fail to finish.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on January 30, 2025, 10:50:56 AM
Ya can only but try bud  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 02, 2025, 02:16:54 AM
Orange paint done, Green needs another coat or two and i'm moving on to the Grey...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54301766981_107753b97e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qJsKtK)Stolly WIP 02-02-25 (https://flic.kr/p/2qJsKtK) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2025, 02:50:37 AM
Which Stolly kit is that Fred?
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 02, 2025, 03:22:18 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2025, 02:50:37 AMWhich Stolly kit is that Fred?

ACE models.

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2025, 04:15:05 AM
Thanks, not the same as mine, but looks very similar, as it should do I guess.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on February 02, 2025, 11:50:02 AM
That's not only looking great so far but the model itself doesn't look that bad either..the detail looks quite crisp now it's painted πŸ‘Œ πŸ‘ πŸ˜€
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 03, 2025, 04:02:46 AM
The ACE kits i've built all suffer from having 1/25 detail levels in 1/72 vehicles.
Thankfully, apart from too large for the scale sprue attachment points, they pull it off.

I can't wait to get hold of an Airfix 1/35 example.

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2025, 04:46:31 AM
One day I'll get around to building my 1/34 Accurate Armour one, maybe..............  :-\

It'll be interesting to see how  the modelling press, including the umpteen internet forums, compare the new Airfix Stolly with the Accurate Armour one.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: Wardukw on February 03, 2025, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2025, 04:46:31 AMOne day I'll get around to building my 1/34 Accurate Armour one, maybe..............  :-\

It'll be interesting to see how  the modelling press, including the umpteen internet forums, compare the new Airfix Stolly with the Accurate Armour one.
Detail wise I'd bet the Airfix one wins here ..the AA Stolly is a damn good kit buts it's also pretty old now and with injection molding being what it is now ..the levels I've seen some figures IM is at damn near the same levels the high end resin manufacturers and even that was ten yrs ago now .
It's still possible tho the Airfix wheels and tyres will need AM ones ..nobody seems to make perfect plastic wheels for trucks and the like πŸ‘.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2025, 11:30:39 AM
I've only taken a glance at my AA Stolly, saw all those ZILLIONS of tiny bits and thought 'Another day I think!'  :o

I'll give it a closer look when I get back home in a week or so, and compare it with pics of the Airfix one in the mags, and with my memory from 1966 or whenever.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: buzzbomb on February 03, 2025, 07:07:06 PM
here
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2025, 11:30:39 AMI've only taken a glance at my AA Stolly, saw all those ZILLIONS of tiny bits and thought 'Another day I think!'  :o

I'll give it a closer look when I get back home in a week or so, and compare it with pics of the Airfix one in the mags, and with my memory from 1966 or whenever.

here ya go.. I am building mine now after only recently getting it, before Airfix did their "here cop that" to me. Doing it on BTS
the Zillion bits
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/f1r2fo035ykhkxo30brrj/Stally_2.JPG?rlkey=ly64w47oplx7rmhfacnelpbwi&st=1q4yxefc&raw=1)

Once they are flying in closer formation
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sfi0duwdca4hs5v8errui/Stally_4.JPG?rlkey=cjoq4uh1pqhi4yt3yz6fdjpwl&st=7xhon7ng&raw=1)

Just about done
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6xsgxi77mzgjbkgn9kj7z/Stally_6.JPG?rlkey=3u6w71755nkreomzim6mpjzfj&st=3we3wara&raw=1)

Airfix have some pretty big shoes to fill, but very thankful to have one out in injection finally

Sorry for the Thread hijack Fred  :wacko:
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 04, 2025, 02:17:45 AM
Lovely.  Doesn't help my impatience though.
But looking at your pics is making thoughts are crystallise re whiffing.  A civilian example with RH Drive and cabin doors springs to mind.

One thing i've always wanted to know about the Stolly.  What is the purpose of the separately partitioned off rear part of the load bed?
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 04, 2025, 04:36:32 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 04, 2025, 02:17:45 AMOne thing  i've always wanted to know about the Stolly.  What is the purpose of the separately partitioned off rear part of the load bed?


Dunno what the Army used it for but we stashed the gennie in there to run our instrumentation back in the 60s. It fitted very nicely.

And that shot of the cab interior is so good I can almost SMELL it.  ;D

Cabin doors could leak, which is why a Stolly doesn't have any and you have to clamber in through the roof...................... :(
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: frank2056 on February 04, 2025, 08:49:15 AM
Kit - what's the large structure behind the driver?
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 04, 2025, 09:10:03 AM
AFAIK it was just an electrical cabinet, we didn't use it at all, but the Alvis guys were in and out of there a lot of the time.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 05, 2025, 02:57:47 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 04, 2025, 04:36:32 AMCabin doors could leak, which is why a Stolly doesn't have any and you have to clamber in through the roof...................... :(

Not with decent seals.  Water pressure wouldn't be too great.  Panhard VBL is amphibious and has doors with seals and so do those baths they make for disabled and old people.

Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 05, 2025, 04:39:32 AM
Sure, but the Army believed in 'better safe than sorry' and specified no doors.

They did have hefty seals on the cargo compartment doors though, and mostly they seemed to work OK.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: frank2056 on February 05, 2025, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 04, 2025, 09:10:03 AMAFAIK it was just an electrical cabinet, we didn't use it at all, but the Alvis guys were in and out of there a lot of the time.

That's a lot of electrical equipment! Did it keep the cabin warm?
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 06, 2025, 01:43:17 AM
Not that I noticed particularly, but the Stolly had a hefty air-con/heater system anyway, but that only worked with the roof hatches shut of course.  ;D
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 11, 2025, 02:06:02 AM
Damn.  Not finished...



...yet.

Can you move it to the Armour thread please Chris.
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: NARSES2 on February 11, 2025, 05:12:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 11, 2025, 02:06:02 AMDamn.  Not finished...



...yet.

Can you move it to the Armour thread please Chris.


Moved as per request
Title: Re: T-34
Post by: zenrat on February 12, 2025, 01:53:14 AM
Thanks Bud.
 :thumbsup: