First of my SQGB entries, an RAF LTV Corsair GR.1 started (and not completed!) as a 2015 One Week GB entry.
See https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=40410.0
Did do a little bit of work on it following the 2015 1WGB but I think it's a worse condition now than it was nearly 9 years ago!
This is what it currently looks like.....
Corsair07.jpg
.....and (after a fair amount of digging) the attendant bag of bits:
Corsair08.jpg
Nice ! The world defo needs more Corsair.
Indeed. Have PMed you, Cap'n.
It's 1 December so time to start work to revive the Corsair. Used Strip Magic by Deluxe Materials for the first time to get the old paint off the rear fuselage and upper wings. One of the main u/c legs came off in the process but went straight into the supporting Bag of Bits. Rather pleased with Strip Magic, not used it before. Bought it at Telford to replace the Fairy Power Spray I usually use - it had been used up to actually clean an oven! Mr Muscle oven cleaner is OK but I think not as good as Strip Magic.
Thought some more about the stores the build will carry. Pretty much staying with the original plan but I'll go back to using the kit's drop tanks. Had planned on something bigger from the spares box but they're too big for them to go with fuselage-mounted Sidewinders, and I want to keep the 'Winders.
Colour scheme. My original idea all those years ago was wraparound Dark Green and Dark Sea Grey plus Jaguar squadron markings. After the 1WGB was over I mulled over a grey Jaguar GR.3-style scheme. The problem (to me at least) was working out how to adapt Jaguar squadron markings, which don't (to my eye) readily lend themselves to Corsairs. It's simply a case of the two types looking very different - specifically the intake arrangements.
Earlier this week I thought an Op Granby/Desert Storm finish using Jaguar markings would do but didn't really relish the idea of all of that Desert Pink. So back to the original DG/DSG scheme plus a little lateral thinking - use Tornado GR.1 squadron markings (after all, several Jag squadrons converted to the Tornado in the 1980s).
Need a bit of Jaguar timeline jiggery-pokery to allow Phimat and ALQ-101 carriage as originally envisaged and use 31 Sqn markings from Modeldecal sheet 77.
Pics to follow after more paint stripping and broken parts have been reattached
Looking forward to this!!
And here was me thinking you were going to do a proper Corsair ;)
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 02, 2023, 12:55:28 AMAnd here was me thinking you were going to do a proper Corsair ;)
The A-7
IS a proper Corsair ... there just happen to be two of them! ;D
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 02, 2023, 01:21:21 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on December 02, 2023, 12:55:28 AMAnd here was me thinking you were going to do a proper Corsair ;)
The A-7 IS a proper Corsair ... there just happen to be two of them! ;D
You are absolutely correct, Womby.
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 02, 2023, 01:21:21 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on December 02, 2023, 12:55:28 AMAnd here was me thinking you were going to do a proper Corsair ;)
The A-7 IS a proper Corsair ... there just happen to be two of them! ;D
All opinions are valid :angel:
Officially, it's the "Corsair II". :rolleyes:
I thought it was officially the SLUFF........................ ;D
Quote from: kitbasher on December 01, 2023, 06:11:28 AMColour scheme. My original idea all those years ago was wraparound Dark Green and Dark Sea Grey plus Jaguar squadron markings. After the 1WGB was over I mulled over a grey Jaguar GR.3-style scheme. The problem (to me at least) was working out how to adapt Jaguar squadron markings, which don't (to my eye) readily lend themselves to Corsairs. It's simply a case of the two types looking very different - specifically the intake arrangements.
You could look at some FGR.2 Phantom markings from the 70's as some were used as ground pounders before the Jaguar came into service. At least it gives you some shape/size options.
Gondor
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 02, 2023, 06:21:49 AMI thought it was officially the SLUFF........................ ;D
No, it's
affectionately &
unofficially the SLUF, because I don't think even the Australian military would make that acronym official. :wacko:
I have a love of both the F4U & the Slow, Low Ugly F____r (both developed by the same company, it should be pointed out). :wub:
I always thought it was Short Little Ugly "Fellow"?
Quote from: zenrat on December 03, 2023, 01:45:22 AMI always thought it was Short Little Ugly "Fellow"?
This is the way. At least officially.
Quote from: zenrat on December 03, 2023, 01:45:22 AMI always thought it was Short Little Ugly "Fellow"?
I've seen that version, too, with the final word transposed with the one I inferred. ;)
I was being polite and not saying fuck3r... :mellow:
And I thought there were two Fs, the second one standng for 'Fat'.
Same sort of thing for the B-52 ...called it BUFF ..Big Ugly Fat ..guess what the F means ;D
And yep in polite publications it was typed Fellow too.
In my experience it was always SLUF among the troops.
B52's not that fat though. Not compared to a C130 for example.
Quote from: zenrat on December 04, 2023, 02:25:32 AMB52's not that fat though. Not compared to a C130 for example.
That's true but that's what they nick named it ...here's a few more for ya ..
C-5 Galaxy – Aluminum Overcast, Cumulus Aluminus, Big Mac, Fat Albert, FRED (Foolishly Ridiculous Economic Disaster), Linda Lovelace, Queer (every time it kneels, it blows something
Lockheed C-130 Hercules – Bleed-Air Blimp
Martin B-26 Marauder – Widowmaker, Baltimore Wh**e (small wings = "No visible means of support")
C-47 Skytrain – Gooney bird
PT-22 Recruit – Maytag Messerschmitt
Seems our American mates love nick names ..there's even WW1 names 😆
The C-5 names cracked me up!!
Fat Albert was also the C-130 that hauled all the stuff around for the Blue Angels.
C-119, Flying Boxcar, because it could haul a railcar volume of cargo.
Quote from: kerick on December 04, 2023, 07:31:33 PMThe C-5 names cracked me up!!
Fat Albert was also the C-130 that hauled all the stuff around for the Blue Angels.
C-119, Flying Boxcar, because it could haul a railcar volume of cargo.
Imaginative bunch us military types huh ;D ;D
I did a quick search and Ken mate it wasn't hard to find nick names that's for sure 😉
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 03, 2023, 04:27:41 AMAnd I thought there were two Fs, the second one standng for 'Fat'.
Same here... but they didn't use it on the second edition of the "Great planes" doc series with Ex-F-22 pilot Paul "Max" Moga. Related clip is here at 8m37s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHoggHX4LLU
BTW, on the original version of the doc, the narrator mentions the nickname, explains the SLU but doesn't mention a single F... Guess it was too much for the 1980s... :unsure:
F for "fellows"!
Yeah, that's it!
IIRC the M113 was the meatbox. Reference to how it didn't protect the occupants very well in case of a mine.
Quote from: kerick on December 06, 2023, 03:17:35 PMF for "fellows"!
Yeah, that's it!
IIRC the M113 was the meatbox. Reference to how it didn't protect the occupants very well in case of a mine.
Or an RPG, or a heavy calibre machine-gun (DShK 12.7mm, KPV 14.5mm)
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 07, 2023, 05:30:07 AMQuote from: kerick on December 06, 2023, 03:17:35 PMF for "fellows"!
Yeah, that's it!
IIRC the M113 was the meatbox. Reference to how it didn't protect the occupants very well in case of a mine.
Or an RPG, or a heavy calibre machine-gun (DShK 12.7mm, KPV 14.5mm)
I fecking hate the 113..it's cramped..nosey and has a bouncy rough ride .
You take 6 fully loaded big blokes and your stuck inside that thing for an hour and trust me you really want out of that thing ...trust me on that.
As for protection in Vietnam crews would cover the floors with sand bags and ammo cans full or sand and they would still ride on top of it.
I've seen where drivers have extended their controls so they can drive while sitting on the roof :o
Russian 7.62x54R API has also been known the penetrate the sides of the 113 ...it's made of aluminum after all .
Something even more scary ive seen some nasty looking holes in these things from standard 7.62 and steel core 5.56mm rds .
Funnily they can be great fun to go a wee bit nuts in ..always better being the driver than a passenger ;D ;D
Again..trust me how I know :wacko: :wacko:
M113 was always just a battle taxi. Expecting more from it was a mistake everyone made.
Ken I've been in more than the one battle tazi and yep they all suck in one way or another and you never expect anything with the 113 .. but anyone over 6ft tall is not gonna have a good time..no saying others are better like the FV432 ..same problem..Bradley's ain't bad and the Warrior is also quite good .
In full loud out we can't even fit thru the back doors of a BMP1 or 2 ;D
Money and bets were made and lost 😆
Meanwhile, the Corsair paint-stripping is done. Some stubborn bits needed a couple of extra treatments plus some rubbing down. It's good enough for government work (based upon the maxim that what the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't grieve).
Plasticard bulkhead fitted behind the bang seat (which has been temporarily removed to be tarted up a bit.
Made a start making chaff/flare dispensers that'll be scabbed on to the fuselage just behind the arrestor hook.
Phimat pod finished and fitted; plasticard replacements for the missing Paveway fins cut out and fitted.
Progress pics in due course, 🤞 next week.
Nice to feel some small progress is finally being made with a long-standing part build.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:...some progress is better than none mate 😉
Progress is Progress, & that's all that matters! :thumbsup:
Some more chipping away at the SLUF.
Undercarriage legs and broken tailplane reattached. The home-made AN/ALQ-101 has been finished off and attached; Paveway painting underway; a bit of cockpit combing detailing started.
Looking forward to seeing pics of this Dave ;D
Here we go, then. A couple of general images with close-ups of the Phimat and the AN/ALQ-101 (the latter needs just a tad more gentle rubbing down).
Corsair09.JPGCorsair10.JPGCorsair11.JPGCorsair12.JPG
Using Humbrol Aluminium (Hu56) as a primer - seems to work better for me than light grey - although I won't be using it in the u/c bays or engine intake. These will use white from the off.
Do I see much larger wings and fin there Dave?
It does look very good............
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 31, 2023, 04:51:03 AMDo I see much larger wings and fin there Dave?
It does look very good............
Nope, 'fraid not, Kit (but thanks for the praise).
Dave I thought I was seeing what Kit thought he saw..those wings and tail do look longer in your pics..it's very weird 🤔 😳 😅
That is by the way looking very good so far 👍 😀
Wheel painting underway, undercarriage bays painted white with probably some washes to add a bit of interest (at least as far as the main u/c bays are concerned), u/c doors and some small wedges of plastic sheet (representing chaff dispensers) fitted.
The kit seat has been given some attention and has been returned to the 'office'
Corsair13.JPG Corsair14.JPG.
Note the front end of the cockpit has recieved a bit of attention too, including a HUD display.
Been thinking about the 'GR.1' tag and at a loss as to where a recce fit would go to in order to earn the 'GR' designation. Under the fuselage would be the optimum place (rather than a wing pod); I'm aware of the A-7's use of the Tactical Airborne Reconnaissance Pod System on a trials basis but development of that wouldn't fit with the Corsair being a Jaguar alternative, leaving Phantoms and Harriers filling that role pending the Tornado GR.1. So I guess my RAF SLUF should more correctly be a GA.1.
EDIT: Humbrol Hu164 Dark Sea Grey base coat applied.
:banghead: repairs needed to the SLUF - dunno how it happened but it fell off its perch. Canopy popped off and a tail plane parted company with the fuselage. Tbh rather surprised no further damage.
Anyway, all fixed. Frustrating given the current lack of modelling opportunities.
Meanwhile there's three candidates for my next SQGB entry. The one I'm really tempted to do requires more work than either of the others; conversely I really would like to see the others done and out of the way. Whichever, I've promised myself I'll not resume work on them until the Corsair is done.
"S.1" could also be an option?
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 30, 2024, 02:34:30 AM"S.1" could also be an option?
Ooh, that's a good idea.
Always seen Jags were always 'attack' rather than 'strike' aircraft but no, they could carry a WE177.
So an 'A-7K' could be a 'Corsair S.1'.
🤔
I think it's pretty impressive so far considering it's an old Airfix mould. Just saying.. :angel:
Slowly getting there.....Xtracolor topcoating under way. A little bit more work on the Paveways needed but that won't take long. Sidewinders painted Light Aircraft Grey after a faff painting them white, which was just wrong (and messy).
Corsair15.jpg
Will be done by the end of May (but I'm not yet saying which year ;) ).
:thumbsup:
Right now it's looking a lot more complete than mine ;D
:thumbsup: :mellow:
Corsair mishap - knocked it of its perch, a tailplane and a mainwheel broke off but all repaired. Top coating still to be finished but had an urge to apply some markings to show a little bit of tanglible progress. Roundels and finflashes from Modeldecal 54 and the squadron markings from Modeldecal 77. Tomorrow I must make time to finish the top coating and complete the Paveways.
Corsair16.jpg
Looking smart :thumbsup: and yes markings can bring a model to life.
I like it 👌 ;D ;D :thumbsup:
That is looking so good!
Decals are done. Matt varnishing starts tomorrow after a little bit of touching up the paint here and there. Oh and I need to replace a nose sensor that's disappeared at some point.
Getting there.
Nearly done - weapons on, drop tanks being tidied up, tiny paint touch ups needed.
Can't wait to see the finished product!
Corsair30.jpg Corsair31.jpg
Corsair26.jpg Corsair27.jpg
Pics and backstory on the 'finished entries' thread (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?msg=1046768).
Looking good :thumbsup:
She looks great! :thumbsup:
But, then, she's a SLUF & SLUFs always look great! :wub:
That looks totally believable Dave, a super job. :thumbsup:
Gotta love a SLUFF :thumbsup:
Errr minor point
@kitbasher. In your spiel in the gallery section you say that the jaguar program was cancelled leading to the acquisition of the Corsair, then start listing Jaguar squadrons midway through! :o
Great looking model all the same ;D
Quote from: Charlie_c67 on July 12, 2024, 10:43:29 AMErrr minor point @kitbasher. In your spiel in the gallery section you say that the jaguar program was cancelled leading to the acquisition of the Corsair, then start listing Jaguar squadrons midway through! :o
Great looking model all the same ;D
Deliferate mistales 😉
Squadrons that would have been Jaguars, perhaps?
Quote from: kerick on July 12, 2024, 06:14:32 PMSquadrons that would have been Jaguars, perhaps?
Indeed. I thought you were referring to the word 'Jaguar', which hadn't been 100% replaced with 'Corsair'.
The backstory was simply presenting a 'Kelvin universe' in which what were in reality actual Jag units as Corsair units.
I'm totaly confused now :angel:
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 13, 2024, 05:34:12 AMI'm totaly confused now :angel:
Excellent, the plan is working! 😈😉
Actually kerick got me to look again at the backstory, which was riddled with basic schoolboy errors and needed a thorough amendment. Read it again and it should make more sense.
Quote from: kitbasher on July 13, 2024, 06:10:12 AMRead it again and it should make more sense.
:thumbsup: :angel:
Late to the party as always 😆
Love a Corsair and this is no different :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;D