Placeholder for a re-engined 1/24th scale Monogram K-K roadster. The big Offie will be used elsewhere.
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What a beautiful Modell ! Very very nice box , oh really :thumbsup:
Cool. :thumbsup:
This is going to be cool 😄
Quote from: zenrat on August 19, 2023, 04:12:11 AMEarly Hemi?
;D
<popcorn>
The DOHC Miller-Goosen-Offenhauser engines have hemispherical combustion chambers.
Why would I replace a brilliant design with a clunky, overweight Mopar push-rod lump?
:unsure: ;)
a nice jet engine? ;D :thumbsup:
Nooo. Better a steam one. Imagine a steam-powered Indy series: the quick pit stops refuelling with coal buckets.
Obviously the cars will need a second crew member as stoker....
Too small, and the larger issue is water consumption rather than fuel consumption.
My Dad was a stationary steam engineer so I know too much about steam power to be able to have the necessary suspension of disbelief for most steam what-ifs.
;D
The vast majority of Steampunk gives me a raging headache, and it's not just in terms of steam power it's also the overuse of brass in place of steel or iron where it wouldn't work for reasons of weight and strength.
:rolleyes:
Gas turbine power
I do remember a real turbine indy car from way back.
There were quite a few of them actually, but they were legislated out of competition by ever more stringent intake size rules.
The STP-Paxton being one and the Lotus 56 being another, both of which so nearly won the 500, but both failed through trivial problems while leading the race a few laps from the end.
Quote from: jcf on August 19, 2023, 10:08:01 AMQuote from: zenrat on August 19, 2023, 04:12:11 AMEarly Hemi?
;D
<popcorn>
The DOHC Miller-Goosen-Offenhauser engines have hemispherical combustion chambers.
Why would I replace a brilliant design with a clunky, overweight Mopar push-rod lump?
:unsure: ;)
Parts availability?
It depends on what use your whiff is going to be put to. Not all whiffs are to make the original design better at its original purpose.
Maybe this is to be used to tow seaplanes out of the water and the Offy didn't have enough bottom end?
:mellow:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 20, 2023, 01:45:15 AMThere were quite a few of them actually, but they were legislated out of competition by ever more stringent intake size rules.
The STP-Paxton being one and the Lotus 56 being another, both of which so nearly won the 500, but both failed through trivial problems while leading the race a few laps from the end.
Ahhhh there ya go ..knew I remembered one but not the that there was 2 ...cool 😀
I think there were other Indy turbine cars too, but the Paxton and the Lotus 56 were best known as they were both leading the race when they broke down.
There were three Lotus 56s in the '68 race, driven by Graham Hill, Art Pollard and Joe Leonard, the latter being in the lead car when it expired.
It's strange when ya think about it..something as simple as a turbine coming a croppa during a race..well it was the early days for this technology...id bet it was the drive line or something along those lines...still extremely cool none the less 😎
It was a auxiliary bearing on the Paxton, and something equally inane on Joe Leonard's 56. Neither were part of the engines.
Typical ain't it? ...so much tech for the time and it's the mundane parts which crap out.
Quote from: Wardukw on August 19, 2023, 08:52:17 PMGas turbine power
I do remember a real turbine indy car from way back.
There were several. The first was a Kurtis-Kraft Indy roadster that had a Boeing 502 gas turbine installed. It was the SAC
"Fire Boid" which was built in the hobbyshop of SAC's Offutt Air Base. Firestone supplied the car and Boeing supplied the
engine. General LeMay was quite taken with the car. It survives today in the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum.
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The first serious attempt at an open wheel racer was the mid-engine 1962 John Zink
Trackburner, again a Boeing 502
supplied by the company along with engineering support during construction, testing and the attempt to qualify for the
1962 Indy 500. The car survives and is in the Zink Ranch Museum in Sand Springs, Oklahoma.
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That's a young Dan Gurney in the driver's seat.
Len Williams of the Boeing Gas Turbine Division was the primary Boeing engineer involved in support of the Zink
program. In 1962 Len bought a surplus 502, the 502-8B that had powered the Cessna XL-19B - the first turboprop
light aircraft and used when the aircraft set an altitude record of 37,306ft. Len installed it in his 1932 Ford hi-boy
hot rod and drove it for the next 27 years, including commuting to work at the Boeing Plant 1 down by Boeing Field
in Seattle. The car survives and is in the LeMay - America's Car Museum in Tacoma, Washington.
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The XL-19B.
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