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Title: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 12, 2023, 08:38:43 AM
Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F..... !/72 Frog Me Bf 109F + PM Spitfire Wings

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Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: kerick on June 12, 2023, 08:48:45 AM
You had me at Schmittfire!
Crazy! I love it! I dare you to take it to a show..... :wacko:
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 12, 2023, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 12, 2023, 08:48:45 AMYou had me at Schmittfire!
Crazy! I love it! I dare you to take it to a show..... :wacko:

Many thanks, I'll take it with my Focke-Fire Wolfspit 190A  :o  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: kerick on June 12, 2023, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 12, 2023, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 12, 2023, 08:48:45 AMYou had me at Schmittfire!
Crazy! I love it! I dare you to take it to a show..... :wacko:

Many thanks, I'll take it with my Focke-Fire Wolfspit 190A  :o  ;D  ;D

That will get some folks screwed up really tight!
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: SPINNERS on June 12, 2023, 09:36:52 AM
Bravo! Love it!
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Wardukw on June 12, 2023, 11:36:40 AM
Brilliant 👏  ;D
The Spitfire purists will crap ..well so might the Messerschmitt crowd  :wacko:
I love that  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Dizzyfugu on June 12, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
That's looking surprisingly good. Probably better than a Spitfire with Bf 109 wings?
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Tophe on June 12, 2023, 01:36:06 PM
I clap my hands loudly! :thumbsup:
(I feeel authorised to do so with the fin wearing no Evil sign)... :unsure:
Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: killnoizer on June 12, 2023, 01:47:27 PM
This looks so fine , very sweet  :thumbsup:
And a FROG Kit , yeeeeess !

But one thing I am wondering, I have also build a spitfire last week .  How do you know  :mellow: 
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: 2996 Victor on June 12, 2023, 02:06:11 PM
Excellent - I really wasn't expecting that at all! I was thinking of something along the lines of the actual Daimler-Benz-engined Mk.Vb.

The north Africa camo looks superb, too.

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: major on June 12, 2023, 05:37:38 PM
Oooooo! That is most excellent!  :wub:

Love the box artwork too!  :thumbsup:

Have you considered putting up a pic of the instruction sheet?  :wacko:
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: kerick on June 12, 2023, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: major on June 12, 2023, 05:37:38 PMOooooo! That is most excellent!  :wub:

Love the box artwork too!  :thumbsup:

Have you considered putting up a pic of the instruction sheet?  :wacko:

That box art modification is also really great! Are there any instructions on how to do that?
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 12, 2023, 12:03:40 PMThat's looking surprisingly good. Probably better than a Spitfire with Bf 109 wings?

Indeed.  :thumbsup:

The first thing my brain thought on seeing that box art was "I built that kit"  ;D Well done sir  :bow:

Quote from: 2996 Victor on June 12, 2023, 02:06:11 PMThe north Africa camo looks superb, too.

Cheers,
Mark

And the shot against the desert shrub background shows how  effective it was.

Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Old Wombat on June 13, 2023, 12:06:09 AM
That image so-o reminded me of this one:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDdEm57WEAAVsAn.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: comrade harps on June 13, 2023, 12:14:49 AM
Hell of a job, both with the model and the images!  :wub:
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Rheged on June 13, 2023, 02:08:24 AM
YES!   A most unexpected but fascinating piece of work.       It has huge potential as a JMN befuddling item
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AM
Very good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.   ;D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4044/34800502504_1a1963c080_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V2cEXS)Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 003 (https://flic.kr/p/V2cEXS) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=41284.msg710893#msg710893

Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 13, 2023, 02:35:37 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AMVery good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.  ;D

Very beautiful build, isn't that am Me109E though?  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 13, 2023, 02:43:22 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 12, 2023, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: major on June 12, 2023, 05:37:38 PMOooooo! That is most excellent!  :wub:

Love the box artwork too!  :thumbsup:

Have you considered putting up a pic of the instruction sheet?  :wacko:

That box art modification is also really great! Are there any instructions on how to do that?

Just used my old copy of photoshop, using the magic wand & cloning tools  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 13, 2023, 02:46:52 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on June 13, 2023, 12:06:09 AMThat image so-o reminded me of this one:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDdEm57WEAAVsAn.jpg)

Always loved this image, gets the best use of camo award  :thumbsup:

>>>>>>>>>>Very many thanks for all kind comments folks  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 03:41:44 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:35:37 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AMVery good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.  ;D

Very beautiful build, isn't that am Me109E though?  ;D  ;)

TBH it is a very drawn out pun which seemingly fell flat.
 ;)

Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:46:52 AM...Always loved this image, gets the best use of camo award  :thumbsup:

Yes, but only at that altitude over that terrain.
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Dizzyfugu on June 13, 2023, 03:52:40 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 03:41:44 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:35:37 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AMVery good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.  ;D

Very beautiful build, isn't that am Me109E though?  ;D  ;)

TBH it is a very drawn out pun which seemingly fell flat.
 ;)

Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:46:52 AM...Always loved this image, gets the best use of camo award  :thumbsup:

Yes, but only at that altitude over that terrain.


...and after color depth has been reduced and contrast enhanced, until only two basic colors were left.  :-\
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 13, 2023, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 03:41:44 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:35:37 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AMVery good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.  ;D

Very beautiful build, isn't that am Me109E though?  ;D  ;)

TBH it is a very drawn out pun which seemingly fell flat.
 ;)


sorry missed that one  ;D  I've just read the blurb in your link  ;D  ;D  ;D  :thumbsup:  ........ I mostly only look at the pictures  :o  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 13, 2023, 12:29:38 PM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 13, 2023, 03:52:40 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 03:41:44 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:35:37 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AMVery good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.  ;D

Very beautiful build, isn't that am Me109E though?  ;D  ;)

TBH it is a very drawn out pun which seemingly fell flat.
 ;)

Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 02:46:52 AM...Always loved this image, gets the best use of camo award  :thumbsup:

Yes, but only at that altitude over that terrain.


...and after color depth has been reduced and contrast enhanced, until only two basic colors were left.  :-\

isn't it just a bad colour period photo?
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Rheged on June 13, 2023, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2023, 02:15:38 AMVery good but I believe it is actually a Pistophe sans Dingem Ps-R03 Pamplemousse.  ;D

"Holy Grapefruit, Batman!"    as Robin is reputed to have said. 

Perhaps we have a variant of Kit's first law here..................any WW2  fighter looks better with semi-elliptical wings
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Dizzyfugu on June 13, 2023, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 13, 2023, 12:29:38 PMisn't it just a bad colour period photo?

I am not certain, but I assume it is a post-colored b/w picture. And even if it should be original, it might only "prove" the effectiveness of the pattern, but certainly not of the colors. Never trust pictures, esp. online/on a screen.
There is/was also a company which boasted about their highly effective pixel cammo for everything. They had, however, only simulated pics of their "products (including aircraft and ground equipment) online, and the pixelated cammo's resolution was chosen to blend well into the highly fragmented surroundings, and the colors they used for it were taken from the pic, too. In the end, the cammo only worked within the confines of the picture and how it would be seen on the advertising website. It's apparently not online anymore, and I remember a F-18 over woodland in the sim pics, as well as a generator station.
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 14, 2023, 04:57:46 AM
Very many thanks for the info  :thumbsup:  I have done a little research myself on WW2 colour photos and there are some great images out there, colourised b/w or full colour and they really bring the history alive accurately or artistically. Artistic licence can be a good thing especially when your making stuff up as we do  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: NARSES2 on June 15, 2023, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 14, 2023, 04:57:46 AMVery many thanks for the info  :thumbsup:  I have done a little research myself on WW2 colour photos and there are some great images out there, colourised b/w or full colour and they really bring the history alive accurately or artistically. Artistic licence can be a good thing especially when your making stuff up as we do  ;D  :thumbsup:

If done sensitively some of the colourised WWI photos can look very good as well. We just have to beware that todays "yooth" don't think they all had digital cameras on their phones back then  ;D  and I'm only half joking.
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: Vulcan7 on June 15, 2023, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 15, 2023, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: Vostoc7 on June 14, 2023, 04:57:46 AMVery many thanks for the info  :thumbsup:  I have done a little research myself on WW2 colour photos and there are some great images out there, colourised b/w or full colour and they really bring the history alive accurately or artistically. Artistic licence can be a good thing especially when your making stuff up as we do  ;D  :thumbsup:

If done sensitively some of the colourised WWI photos can look very good as well. We just have to beware that todays "yooth" don't think they all had digital cameras on their phones back then  ;D  and I'm only half joking.

very good point, did you see my effort from 76  ;D  ;D  ;D ......  https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=51548.0
Title: Re: Messerspit Schmittfire Bf109F
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2023, 06:04:02 AM
Yup  ;D