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GROUP BUILDS => The 1950's Group Build => Topic started by: Leading Observer on February 17, 2023, 02:30:14 PM

Title: Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on February 17, 2023, 02:30:14 PM
This group build finally gives me the reason to build at least one of the F8U-? I have in the stash :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: DogfighterZen on February 17, 2023, 05:56:39 PM
Not enough Crusaders around here... i'm sure this will be good!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on February 19, 2023, 04:14:27 AM
Found the kits, and ordered some extras and even have ideas for the paint schemes :mellow:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Gondor on February 19, 2023, 04:18:43 AM
So no Knights in the Middle East then?

Gondor
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Old Wombat on February 19, 2023, 04:48:55 AM
The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Knights Templar) or the Order of Knights of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem (Knights Hospitaller) evolved to fight the heathen Saracens in the 1950's? :unsure:

Could be an entry in that! :thumbsup:



But probably not mine. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 19, 2023, 05:59:19 AM
'Saders are always an option, esp. in non-US service.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on March 02, 2023, 01:59:57 PM
The starting point:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZL8iuuIm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Xl0MLjKm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/NYXRAFBm.jpg)
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: zenrat on March 03, 2023, 04:09:30 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on February 19, 2023, 04:48:55 AMThe Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Knights Templar) or the Order of Knights of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem (Knights Hospitaller) evolved to fight the heathen Saracens in the 1950's? :unsure:

Could be an entry in that! :thumbsup:



But probably not mine. :rolleyes:

Alternate time line:  Following the end of WW2 Jewish survivors of the camps and refugees head to central Australia where a Zionist homeland had been set up before the war (this was an actual proposal).  Militant Christian Soldiers claiming descent from Crusaders, Templars etc gather under the cross of St John and attempt to carve a homeland for themselves based on Jerusalem...

Holy War GB anyone?
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Captain Canada on March 07, 2023, 06:13:37 PM
Woah !
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Post by: Wardukw on March 07, 2023, 08:28:21 PM
Damn!! ...a lovely pile there  ;D
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on March 07, 2023, 08:55:50 PM
Love the Crusader.  Had a good work buddy who retired a good while back who flew them in the Navy in Vietnam.  So many cool photos shared.  A classic Fighter.  Looking forward to this one. 
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on March 22, 2023, 01:06:19 PM
Quick question - anyone know if nose weights are required to stop the model being a tail sitter?
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Wardukw on March 22, 2023, 04:38:09 PM
LO mate I don't think so..ive had a couple of Corsair 2s and their landing is extremely close in design and they've never needed weights .
When loaded out the weight is closer to the front because the in board weapons mounts are pushing weight forward .
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Mossie on March 23, 2023, 12:37:54 AM
There's any easy test.  Tape the major components together then balance it on a pencil.  If the tipping point is behind the main gear, you'll need nose weight.

As Duky says, you should be okay as the Crusader has quite a long forward fuselage.  I'd especially check the Crusader III as resin kits as a slightly thicker bit here or there can change the weight distribution.
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on June 04, 2023, 12:05:02 AM
Crusader III virtually finished - some small adjustments to be done and the wing fixed in position
(https://i.imgur.com/83tNyOul.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/zkJDsFXl.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/TGeNALll.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/NI090VYl.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/GXNo6Bul.jpg)
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 04, 2023, 02:50:00 AM
Always a FIERCE looking aeroplane! And it looks great in green too.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Wardukw on June 04, 2023, 03:04:36 AM
Never seen a Crusader in green and I like it  :thumbsup:
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Post by: comrade harps on June 04, 2023, 03:15:56 AM
 :wub: it!
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Post by: DogfighterZen on June 04, 2023, 05:26:54 PM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: kerick on June 04, 2023, 08:08:20 PM
Excellent build! Crusaders always look good. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: zenrat on June 05, 2023, 04:20:25 AM
 :thumbsup:

In the RW when the wing was up the flaps and slats were down.  But obviously that doesn't apply in OTL...
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: NARSES2 on June 05, 2023, 06:22:21 AM
Every time I read the title of this thread I keep expecting to see armoured knights riding jeeps adorned with a white bard adorned with a red cross  :banghead:

Neat build, looks particularly good in that scheme  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on June 05, 2023, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 05, 2023, 06:22:21 AMEvery time I read the title of this thread I keep expecting to see armoured knights riding jeeps adorned with a white bard adorned with a red cross  :banghead:

Neat build, looks particularly good in that scheme  :thumbsup:

I have another one started - it might not make the extended deadline, but I am considering changing the paint scheme and markings in light of the above :wacko:
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Doug K on June 05, 2023, 01:09:42 PM
I do like the Crusaders. I have a hasegawa one unbuilt as it's missing a canopy, one day I'll get it built as a 2 seater for the Royal Navy.
Title: Re: Crusaders
Post by: Leading Observer on June 09, 2023, 05:29:45 AM
RCAF Crusdaer III

RCAF Vought F-8u-3 Crusader III

In 1959 Vought realised that their F8U-3 Crusader III was going to lose the US Navy competition for a new fighter to the McDonnell Douglas F-4/F-110, they started to look around to see if there were any other opportunities to market the aircraft.

The big news story at the time was the unexpected cancellation of the Avro CF-105 Arrow project by the Canadian Government, leaving the RCAF without their longed for supersonic interceptor.  Vought seized their chance and offered the Canadian government the Crusader III as an alternative.

Prime Minister Diefenbaker having finally realised that cancelling the Arrow was going to lose Canada 1000's of jobs in the aerospace industry grabbed this straw which would enable him to at least offset some of his disastrous decision, and Vought were awarded a contract for an initial 100 aircraft, with much of the work to be undertaken in Canada, including the building of the Pratt and Whitney J-75 engine under licence by Orenda.

As much of the development work had already been undertaken, production soon got underway, with the first aircraft entering service in early 1962.
There were some initial teething problems with the fire control system for the Sparrow missiles, but by 1965 these had been resolved and the aircraft remained the Canadian Armed Forced main front line interceptor until replaced by the Tornado F3 in the early 1990's.

The Crusader III's occasionally served in Europe, and were painted NATO Olive Green with light grey undersides
 
The model is the Anigrand 1/72 resin kit - it went together reasonably well, although the canopy transaparency did not fit at all, being far to shallow, meaning I had to build up the cockpit sides with plastic card to get it level with the fusalage at the rear of the cockpit.