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Title: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 14, 2023, 12:55:53 AM
It's early, but this might become an entry to the GB, as it is a German technical hardware icon of the Fifties - a diesel-hydraulic locomotive of the V 200 Class (the basis/origins of the British Warship Class, BTW), but in Danish service. A very natural choice, because the V 200 was concentrated in Northern Germany later in their career and border-crossing fast passenger traffic might have made this whiffy idea real. It's so plausible that someone else at FlickR (Garry Luck, a.ka. northernblue109) made this CG rendition of the concept some years ago - I stumbled upon it long ago while doing some research legwork about Danish GM locomotives.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7505/16102161277_e58a2054cf_b.jpg)

Looks so right and natural.  :lol:  My build in H0 scale (on the basis of an all-metal Märklin 3021) will look very similar.

We'll see...  :mellow:
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: mat on February 14, 2023, 03:31:44 AM
A very credibly scenario, as some old danish MZ locos now run i german colours
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 14, 2023, 03:58:56 AM
LOVE the V200 Class, if only because they begat the Warships, which I know quite well as I signed in the very last one in BR Service (832 Onslaught) into the Railway Tech Centre in 1972 or so.  :thumbsup:

Plus of course, they're hydraulic.  ;D
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 14, 2023, 04:53:48 AM
As a means of preparation I ordered some stencil decals that might become useful in the re-design process.

The Danish MZs are amazing - like cockroaches they seem the be unkillable and pop up everywhere, in interesting post-DSB guises, including those of DB Cargo Scandinavia. Some even ended up in Australia!
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: martinbayer on February 18, 2023, 09:55:20 PM
For today's useless bit of trivia, if memory serves correctly, the DB Class V 200 served as a stand-in for a British Warship Class Diesel engine in the German 1966 TV mini series titled Die Gentlemen bitten zur Kasse, aka The Great British Train Robbery, which was a pseudo documentary style reenactment of the famous Great Train Robbery of then £2.3 million from a Royal Mail train heading from Glasgow to London on the West Coast Main Line in the early hours of 8 August 1963 at Bridego Railway Bridge, Ledburn, near Mentmore in Buckinghamshire, England.
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Gondor on February 19, 2023, 01:50:11 AM
Very nice  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 19, 2023, 04:13:15 AM
Quote from: martinbayer on February 18, 2023, 09:55:20 PMFor today's useless bit of trivia, if memory serves correctly, the DB Class V 200 served as a stand-in for a British Warship Class Diesel engine in the German 1966 TV mini series titled Die Gentlemen bitten zur Kasse, aka The Great British Train Robbery, which was a pseudo documentary style reenactment of the famous Great Train Robbery of then £2.3 million from a Royal Mail train heading from Glasgow to London on the West Coast Main Line in the early hours of 8 August 1963 at Bridego Railway Bridge, Ledburn, near Mentmore in Buckinghamshire, England.

This one here - one might wonder how it was painted (probably standard red and dark grey, just with new badges)? Only B/W footage available:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpics.imcdb.org%2F0is217%2Fpost30ze0.2739.jpg&hash=844b4541a5994fa5c57adc109ae003c8685c33bc)

(https://c8.alamy.com/compes/ewe3m9/morir-senores-mordido-zur-kasse-fernsehminiserie-deutschland-1966-regie-john-olden-claus-peter-witt-soy-zu-uberfallenden-postzug-szenenfoto-ewe3m9.jpg)
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 19, 2023, 11:27:08 AM
That's a BR 'Lion on a wheel' badge on the side of the V200, but those nose whiskers were never used on Warships.

Mind you, the RW loco involved the Great Train Robbery was a Class 40, a much larger loco altogether.
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 26, 2023, 04:56:06 AM
Getting parts ready here. I was also able to procure a set of contemporary V200 stencil decals - German language, though, but better than nothing.  :lol:
Title: Re: DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 28, 2023, 11:46:40 PM
Work started, but at glacial pace; the locomotive has been disassembled, which is a quick task. The upper body is all-metal, and there are semi-transparent engine bay windows and opaque grey windscreens for the driver cabins that ca´n be easily taken out. The same goes for the clear plastic light elements and wire handrails.

The body is now in a brake fluid bath to get rid of the highly robust enamel paint, I want a clean surface before many of the molded hull details (including stencils and the whiskers) will be grinded away for a cleaner look. This will take a couple of days (if not weeks), though, and I might start (and finish) another suitable entry during this period.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on March 02, 2023, 02:43:03 AM
Since this build won't be eligible for the GB pls. move the thread into the "Figures, Cars, Etc" section. :-/
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: NARSES2 on March 02, 2023, 08:29:31 AM
Moved as requested
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on March 02, 2023, 11:45:56 PM
Thanks a lot, highly appreciated!

Brake fluid bath goes on. First signs of paint removal are recognizable.  :police:
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on March 31, 2023, 01:29:25 AM
Well, this project has not seen much progress - but it's not dead. The metal body is still in the brake fluid bath and slowly loses paint particles.  :mellow: No haste.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 22, 2023, 04:00:52 AM
Well, after almost two months in the brake fluid bath the chemicals did their job and I have a fine bare metal hull!  :mellow:
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Wardukw on April 22, 2023, 06:59:39 PM
At freaking last mate  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 23, 2023, 11:43:13 PM
Brake fluid just needs some patience. Progress on this one will be slow, though, because the Fifties GB might prompt me to start some other submission for it.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Wardukw on April 24, 2023, 01:54:29 AM
Brake fluid was my go to  paint stripper for yrs and then one it just seemed to take longer and longer to strip paint.
I'll use oven cleaner now but that won't strip the paint of models like yours .
What about proper paint stripper..will work nicely on metal models.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: zenrat on April 24, 2023, 04:56:10 AM
"Proper" paint stripper will eat some metals IIRC.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: NARSES2 on April 24, 2023, 05:56:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on April 24, 2023, 04:56:10 AM"Proper" paint stripper will eat some metals IIRC.

Yup.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 24, 2023, 06:04:25 AM
I normally also use (foamed) oven cleaner, esp on IP/resin kits, but the paint on the Märklin metal hull is/was burnt-in enamel paint. REALLY tough, harder than car finish - so that brake fluid had to do the job. Worked very well, though - slowly but effective, just messy to handle. Not certain about professional paint stripper, though, I would not use it.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Wardukw on April 24, 2023, 01:40:59 PM
I used to use a brand called Dads paint stripper..I stripper from the US and that stuff was brilliant..I used to strip Matchbox box cars with it ..and real cars.
It's extremely powerful and works very fast ..5 minutes on a car would take the paint down to clean steel..thixk rubber gloves are a must.
Course we can't get it here anymore and now stuck with total crap stripper which takes ten times longer to work and even then not that well..thanks Bunnings  :angry:
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 24, 2023, 11:28:26 PM
The hull is in a water bath with some APC and dentures cleaner, to get rid of the final paint residue inside and surface fat.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: buzzbomb on May 09, 2023, 04:04:28 PM
Well at least you have a actual blank canvas to work on, so to speak.
Title: Re: WiP +++ H0 scale DSB Class 'MD' diesel-hydraulic locomotive (DB V 200.5)
Post by: Wardukw on May 09, 2023, 04:27:34 PM
Won't be long before paint is hitting this now I hope Thomas mate 👍