What if

GROUP BUILDS => The Logistics Group Build => Topic started by: 63cpe on December 07, 2022, 09:09:46 AM

Title: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: 63cpe on December 07, 2022, 09:09:46 AM
I guess every new project has to start with: "What if..."

In this case what if the Kalkert Ka 430 tactical assault glider was developed in a motorized tactical transport...

This how this project started:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52548313087_e9482cb1ff_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o4vQJ4)PXL_20221207_112046630 (https://flic.kr/p/2o4vQJ4) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr

Not 100% sure about the engine choice yet. The argus engines from the Siebel 204 might be changed for radials from a Gotha 244 on nacelles of a Caproni 311. just for good looks.

Cheers,
David
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Dizzyfugu on December 08, 2022, 02:09:07 AM
Nice idea!! My first suggestion would also have been a Gnome-Rhône radial engine, which was available in suitable numbers and used on several second line aircraft like the Go 244, the Me 323.
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Tophe on December 10, 2022, 11:33:43 PM
9 year ago, I imagined a Ka-430Z zwilling, and this one could have received engines too!
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2FKa430Z.JPG&hash=1f8696357e2b644a7e0cb2e5c61d1ed4c85fa01e)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Ka430Z.JPG
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: 63cpe on December 11, 2022, 02:03:40 PM
Update time!

The correct engines and props were finally found after some rummage in the sparesbin. Wasn't easy finding a prop with the correct diameter. You see, the prop is very close to the canopy/ door. So had to have a prop with a rather small diameter. Found two fiat CR 42 engines with (turning) props and these were a fit. Glued them on the nacelles ( Caproni Ca 311's over the Siebel Si 204's) and there we go....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52557281321_fe84aceec5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5iNEM)PXL_20221211_200140489 (https://flic.kr/p/2o5iNEM) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52557281391_5b61132dc0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5iNFZ)PXL_20221211_200124014 (https://flic.kr/p/2o5iNFZ) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr

The nacelles look kinda big in this picture but that's camera distortion.

Meanwhile found out it's a mayor tailsitter so dumped some lead beats in it's extreme nose to prevent tilting backwards. Also assembled the tail planes, vertical tail and last, but not least, the wings.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52557749090_1c9a77c2f7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5mcHL)PXL_20221211_200218278.MP (https://flic.kr/p/2o5mcHL) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52557749115_f1b73e2cb5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5mcJc)PXL_20221211_200151192 (https://flic.kr/p/2o5mcJc) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr

It looks like a small version of a C-123 Provider as it resembles one a little.

Cheers,
David aka 63cpe



Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Tophe on December 11, 2022, 03:04:43 PM
Very good! Congratulations! :thumbsup:  :bow:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Old Wombat on December 12, 2022, 01:13:28 AM
Looks good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: zenrat on December 12, 2022, 02:36:04 AM
I've said it before, but your sense of proportion really meshes with mine.  Can't wait to see it in paint.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: loupgarou on December 12, 2022, 05:04:26 AM
Very interesting build, the mix of parts came out really well.
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Dizzyfugu on December 12, 2022, 07:14:03 AM
Cool. Works well with the tricycle landing gear, too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: 63cpe on December 12, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. About the colors: I think I'll do it in late WW2 luftwaffe colors. This might be an open door, but possibly the best fit. An other option is a worn Luftwaffe Russia theatre color scheme. Choices, choices....

Best regards,
David aka 63CPE
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: frank2056 on December 13, 2022, 01:27:33 PM
I love Huna kits! I think this was one of their later efforts.

Your Ka 430 with engines reminds me of the Antonov An-14 (http://antonov%20an-14)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/An-14_%28%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0-81550%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: 63cpe on January 08, 2023, 12:46:04 AM
It sure looks a little like the Antonov 14 (Pchelka) frank2056.

Meanwhile the upper fuselage was puttied where the wings fit the fuselage as the profiel of the wing is a tad higher than the fuselage. This still needs to be sanded down, but social events will cause some delays.

David aka 63CPE
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: 63cpe on February 14, 2023, 02:09:16 PM
Aaaand it's finished!

What if there was a piston engined version of this late war German assault glider. As with the majority of the German aircraft it was too little, too late. The Kalkert Ka430 V6 is an example on how a simple modification can turn into a very successful type of aircraft.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52687445041_908182511f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogNVNR)PXL_20230213_215553502 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogNVNR) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52687868205_a917a0cde5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogR6AM)PXL_20230213_215721749 (2) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogR6AM) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52687868210_226524b093_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogR6AS)PXL_20230213_215731935 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogR6AS) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52687444991_105ff629ff_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogNVMZ)PXL_20230213_215802943 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogNVMZ) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52687721174_1f93897068_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogQkTL)PXL_20230213_215811958 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogQkTL) by Buddy Holly (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/), on Flickr

Hope you like it..

David aka 63cpe
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Old Wombat on February 14, 2023, 04:11:10 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 15, 2023, 04:27:26 AM
Bril job there, like a Luftwaffe C-123.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Flyer on February 15, 2023, 04:32:58 AM
Like this very much, well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Dizzyfugu on February 15, 2023, 06:30:02 AM
That's looking very good. :thumbsup: 

Just the code is a bit odd.  ;D
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Tophe on February 15, 2023, 07:43:44 AM
congratulations! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 15, 2023, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on February 15, 2023, 06:30:02 AMJust the code is a bit odd.  ;D


Why?
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: Wardukw on February 15, 2023, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on February 15, 2023, 06:30:02 AMJust the code is a bit odd.  ;D
Wiffy world code Thomas so 100 percent accurate  :lol:

Great build mate...that bird would be very useful way after the end of the war so I hope quite a few survived  ;D
It's weird but it just looks right  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: NARSES2 on February 16, 2023, 01:47:21 AM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalkert Ka 430 V6
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2023, 02:25:02 AM
Good job Dave.
 :thumbsup: