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GROUP BUILDS => The Logistics Group Build => Topic started by: zenrat on November 29, 2022, 01:48:49 AM

Title: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: zenrat on November 29, 2022, 01:48:49 AM
During WW1 the General staff were trapped miles behind the lines in commandeered chateaux.  Obviously they would have loved to have got closer to the action but they were prevented by the inability to travel far too from the essentials (5 square meals a day, the wine cellar, Nanny etc).  The invention of the camper tank provided the means for them to transport[/b] their corpulent selves closer to the front.

I have a Kitech 1/48 T-72 and an AMT allegedly 1/25 camper body.  Camper is to be scaleoramaed to 1/48.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52523600347_e6d5d5f775_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o2kbuk)Camper Tank. (https://flic.kr/p/2o2kbuk) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

I have been working on this while the mods were rejecting my early concepts for its purpose and so can show you all this mock up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52531564243_ec99fdda5a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o32ZST)Camper Tank WIP 29-11-2022 (https://flic.kr/p/2o32ZST) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Keen eyed readers will have noticed a bag in the first pic containing a motor and some gears.  Yes, it's one of those kits.  Back when the Japanese manufacturers put motorised parts in them as a tax dodge.  Having lost my soldering iron in the move to 'straya in 2003 I had bought a new one last year which was still in its packeting.  So I broke it out, plugged it in, and surprised myself by managing to motorise the chassis without burning anything to the ground.
I can't work out how to embed a video from flickr but here is a link.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/52531492955/in/dateposted-public/



Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 29, 2022, 03:13:43 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 29, 2022, 01:48:49 AMKeen eyed readers will have noticed a bag in the first pic containing a motor and some gears.  Yes, it's one of those kits.  Back when the Japanese manufacturers put motorised parts in them as a tax dodge.  Having lost my soldering iron in the move to 'straya in 2003 I had bought a new one last year which was still in its packeting.  So I broke it out, plugged it in, and surprised myself by managing to motorise the chassis without burning anything to the ground.
I can't work out how to embed a video from flickr but here is a link.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/52531492955/in/dateposted-public/


HILARIOUS laughter here! Love the whole idea, but the vid is a scream, NOTHING stopped it!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: kerick on November 29, 2022, 06:40:30 AM
Oh that would make my dog go crazy! She already hates the Roomba vacuum!
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: scooter on November 29, 2022, 06:46:07 AM
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Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: JayBee on November 29, 2022, 01:50:07 PM
I think this idea is absolutely fantstic, I can,t wait to see the end.
The dialogues when they arrive, uanounced at a camping site are fantastic.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: loupgarou on November 29, 2022, 02:48:17 PM
Crazy idea! Hope you manage to complete it. You could also have the camper body turn on the turret ring, so generals could have a panoramic view of the battlefield without moving their fat asses.  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on November 30, 2022, 02:21:02 AM
I hadn't thought of a rotating body.
I have thought of a verandah and a roof top deck.  Possibly a flagpole.
No interior detail though.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2022, 03:12:50 AM
How about a hot tub?  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Old Wombat on November 30, 2022, 07:33:34 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2022, 03:12:50 AMHow about a hot tub?  ;D

For those "Eureka!" moments ... that result in another 100,000 unnecessary deaths. :banghead:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: scooter on November 30, 2022, 08:01:38 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on November 30, 2022, 07:33:34 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2022, 03:12:50 AMHow about a hot tub?  ;D

For those "Eureka!" moments ... that result in another 100,000 unnecessary deaths. :banghead:
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Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 01, 2022, 03:08:39 AM
Hot tub is an excellent idea.
Verandah may well have to extend to become a deck.

I have decided against a revolving body.  Far simpler to just align the whole vehicle with the sunset.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 02, 2022, 03:34:01 AM
Researching hot tubs.  A wooden clad round one should be easy to scratch up.
Of course, I could make it a Finnish vehicle and have a sauna instead.

Did some digging in parts boxes today and found the original kit "glass" for the camper body.  I'm thinking of making some floral curtains out of paper and gluing them on the inside to obscure the lack of interior.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Lord_Voyager on December 02, 2022, 05:12:50 AM
I think the tank itself needs to have wooden panel sides like the 1940's woody cars. And it needs to be painted metallic lime green otherwise.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 03, 2022, 04:52:41 AM
Lime green station wagon woody tank (with panoramic scenic roof)?
That would have be a separate project.

Nice idea though.

I assembled a figure today to give some idea of scale.  Here is Field Marshal General Fedor Fedorovitch posing on his deck with a mock up of his proposed hot tub.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52539933835_ca9503c7a2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o3LTSc)Camper Tank WIP 03-12-2022 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2o3LTSc) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

I then started thinking about the structural arrangements under the camper body.  This was a mistake as I haven got carried away scratching up an H beam and RSJ sub structure.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52539750439_487b74e75a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o3KXmc)Camper Tank WIP 03-12-2022 02 (https://flic.kr/p/2o3KXmc) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

It now turns out the entire camper body is removable for carriage by other vehicles such as ACVs, pontoons, and even helicopters.

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I will create a drivers compartment that fits neatly under the sleeping compartment of the camper body.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52539449451_46ec82564d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o3JpSK)Camper Tank WIP 03-12-2022 04 (https://flic.kr/p/2o3JpSK) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

All these revelations are troubling me as they are creating more complications.

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: NARSES2 on December 03, 2022, 05:57:44 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 03, 2022, 04:52:41 AMAll these revelations are troubling me as they are creating more complications.

 :banghead:

Ah, but at least sorting them out will stimulate the mind  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Old Wombat on December 03, 2022, 06:27:08 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 03, 2022, 05:57:44 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 03, 2022, 04:52:41 AMAll these revelations are troubling me as they are creating more complications.

 :banghead:

Ah, but at least sorting them out will stimulate the mind  ;D

It's also a perpetual hazard of the hobby. ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 03, 2022, 08:03:13 AM
I'm SO glad I suggested the hot tub.  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Rheged on December 03, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 03, 2022, 08:03:13 AMI'm SO glad I suggested the hot tub.  ;D

Heated from the vehicle exhaust, perhaps?
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 04, 2022, 01:36:13 AM
Quote from: Rheged on December 03, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 03, 2022, 08:03:13 AMI'm SO glad I suggested the hot tub.  ;D

Heated from the vehicle exhaust, perhaps?

Heat and bubbles simultaneously.
OK with a diesel engine.  Not sure if it would be possible on an Abrams based camper tank...

Worked today on attaching the camper body to the tank.
Obviously I could just glue it on.
But no, that would be too easy.  I must make it demountable.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52541646904_04bcd38aca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o3VF6S)Camper Tank WIP 04-12-2022 (https://flic.kr/p/2o3VF6S) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

RSJs on the bottom of the camper body sit in the channels on the top of the tank.  As could equivalent fittings on the bottom of other payloads.
Does anyone make a 1/48 20' Shipping Container?

Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 03:47:05 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 04, 2022, 01:36:13 AMDoes anyone make a 1/48 20' Shipping Container?


How about an 'O' gauge model railway one, that's almost the same scale?
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Steel Penguin on December 04, 2022, 04:24:42 AM
or 28mm wargames scale one ( 1:56 to 1:48 depending on the company)   and available in precast resin ( Ainsty ) i think plastic  but cant come up with a company off the top of my head, and wile i know at least a couple of company's do laser cut mdf again names remain blank,  and im fairly certain ive seen at least one store doing a 3D printable one,  a look on the lead adventure forum may help https://leadadventureforum.com/
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: scooter on December 04, 2022, 04:57:37 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 03:47:05 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 04, 2022, 01:36:13 AMDoes anyone make a 1/48 20' Shipping Container?


How about an 'O' gauge model railway one, that's almost the same scale?

Atlas (https://shop.atlasrr.com/c-1363-0237.aspx) do.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AM
LMAO - it'd make an excellent post-apocalypse thing too: re-militarised with improvised weapons and all the suusal anti-zombie mods.

Pity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Rheged on December 04, 2022, 07:51:58 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 04, 2022, 01:36:13 AM
Quote from: Rheged on December 03, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 03, 2022, 08:03:13 AMI'm SO glad I suggested the hot tub.  ;D

Heated from the vehicle exhaust, perhaps?
Worked today on attaching the camper body to the tank.
Obviously I could just glue it on.
But no, that would be too easy.  I must make it demountable.

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Heat and bubbles simultaneously.
OK with a diesel engine.  Not sure if it would be possible on an Abrams based camper tank...


I had assumed a heat exchanger..................................... 
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: kerick on December 04, 2022, 08:07:41 AM
Hmmm bubbling diesel exhaust through the water would make it oily pretty quickly. Yuk!
Love this idea!
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 09:37:45 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D

Deckchair might be more appropriate...
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 05, 2022, 01:25:21 AM
Thanks for the tips on the 20' box.
Jeez model railway stuff is expensive.  I think if I need to have a second load i'll scratch something up.

I forgot to mention the T-72 came to me from a very nice man here in whiff world.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: NARSES2 on December 05, 2022, 05:50:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D

The Book  ;D
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Rheged on December 05, 2022, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2022, 05:50:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D

The Book  ;D

How many volumes does "The Book"  run to now?    And are you planning to publish anytime soon?
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: scooter on December 05, 2022, 10:44:28 AM
Quote from: Rheged on December 05, 2022, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2022, 05:50:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D

The Book  ;D

How many volumes does "The Book"  run to now?    And are you planning to publish anytime soon?
The stereotypical legal bookshelves seen in most movies/tv shows involving the legal profession?
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: NARSES2 on December 06, 2022, 06:00:52 AM
Quote from: Rheged on December 05, 2022, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2022, 05:50:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D

The Book  ;D

How many volumes does "The Book"  run to now?    And are you planning to publish anytime soon?

As each one is filled it gets sent to the binders, but they are having problems sourcing the requisite amounts of leather  :angel:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: jcf on December 06, 2022, 04:01:48 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 06, 2022, 06:00:52 AM
Quote from: Rheged on December 05, 2022, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2022, 05:50:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
Quote from: Weaver on December 04, 2022, 05:59:52 AMPity it's not based on a Tiger II with a rounded turret: then you could put a roof on the deck and call it a Porch Tiger... :wacko:


Coat? Hat?  ;D  ;D

The Book  ;D

How many volumes does "The Book"  run to now?    And are you planning to publish anytime soon?

As each one is filled it gets sent to the binders, but they are having problems sourcing the requisite amounts of leather  :angel:
I didn't realize that the JMN herds had thinned to such an extent that it was causing supply chain issues.
:wacko:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: NARSES2 on December 09, 2022, 05:45:46 AM
Quote from: jcf on December 06, 2022, 04:01:48 PMI didn't realize that the JMN herds had thinned to such an extent that it was causing supply chain issues.
:wacko:

Yup. David Attenborough made an appeal on their behalf at Telford.  :angel:  ;)
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 16, 2022, 03:05:30 AM
JMN leather isn't any good for bookbinding - they are too thin skinned.

Progress has been slow.  Mainly because work has been busy.  A combination of it being the season of avarice and greed, and sick colleagues (covid, bronchitis, fractured vertebrae...).
However, I have done some PSR and started building up the operators cab under the camper overhang.  I've also made a start on the stairs which will run from the deck up to the rooftop terrace.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: NARSES2 on December 16, 2022, 05:36:57 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 16, 2022, 03:05:30 AMJMN leather isn't any good for bookbinding - they are too thin skinned.


That's quite good  ;D  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: jcf on December 16, 2022, 04:40:39 PM
^^^^^
Ditto
;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 17, 2022, 02:08:28 AM
Thank you.  I'll be here all week.  Try the veal.

After facing the great unwashed and their postage requirements this morning I got to spend an hour at the bench today.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52568969343_524f4e65fa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o6kH7p)Camper Tank WIP 17-12-2022 01 (https://flic.kr/p/2o6kH7p) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Old Wombat on December 17, 2022, 06:16:30 AM
Your workload should be picking up nicely about now, I'd reckon. ;)  :rolleyes:  :banghead:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 18, 2022, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 17, 2022, 06:16:30 AMYour workload should be picking up nicely about now, I'd reckon. ;)  :rolleyes:  :banghead:

Just a bit.  More parcels than you can shake stick at.
Only four more working days to go for and then I get five days off.

Woo-hoo!
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: buzzbomb on December 20, 2022, 01:22:17 PM
Firstly keep up doing the good work at work.


And then, keep up doing the good work at the bench  ;D

This is looking very spiffy
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 21, 2022, 03:25:55 AM
Thanks mate.

Sides of the cab are in place.  Time for greebles.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 28, 2022, 01:38:44 AM
Additional alternate load - to be reconfigured as a fuel/water/vodka container.

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Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Gondor on December 28, 2022, 04:25:58 AM
That cab is looking nice, UFO's SHADOW2 inspired by any chance?

Gondor
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 29, 2022, 12:18:45 AM
Childhood exposure to a Dinky SHADO mobile may be involved in design decisions.

Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Rheged on December 29, 2022, 07:24:53 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 21, 2022, 03:25:55 AMSides of the cab are in place.  Time for greebles.

As we all know, one can never, ever have too many greebles.  I am most intrigued to find which specific greebles you have in mind in this case.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: kerick on December 29, 2022, 07:44:05 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 28, 2022, 01:38:44 AMAdditional alternate load - to be reconfigured as a fuel/water/vodka container.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52590993761_32966126e0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o8hAcK)Camper Tank WIP 28-12-2022 (https://flic.kr/p/2o8hAcK) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

That will be one huge fuel/vodka tank!! It'll give the Ukrainian guys with Javelin missiles and electric bikes something spectacular to shoot at!
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: frank2056 on December 29, 2022, 01:01:49 PM
Quote from: Gondor on December 28, 2022, 04:25:58 AMThat cab is looking nice, UFO's SHADOW2 inspired by any chance?

Gondor
I have the title music stuck in my head now:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 29, 2022, 11:22:25 PM
It's funny, I don't remember 1980 looking like that...
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on December 31, 2022, 04:08:40 AM
Scratch-building today - stairs and a hot-tub.
Primer on the prime-mover.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on January 02, 2023, 02:10:53 AM
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Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Old Wombat on January 02, 2023, 02:17:55 AM
Ah! He's wearing an ushanka! At first I thought it was a Morris dancer's hat*! :angel:





[*: Until I looked at the enlarged image on Flickr. ;) ]
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 02, 2023, 04:43:33 AM
LOVE the hot tub!  :wub:  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: kerick on January 02, 2023, 10:47:55 AM
If it's Russian then you need a collection of sticks so they can beat each other in the hot tub.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Snowtrooper on January 03, 2023, 06:41:58 AM
Quote from: kerick on January 02, 2023, 10:47:55 AMIf it's Russian then you need a collection of sticks so they can beat each other in the hot tub.
...is this referring to using a birch bunch to beat oneself and each other with the leaves (as opposed to the branch or the trunk itself) in a sauna (I fail to see how this would work in a hot tub), or is the Russian bathing culture just a wee bit more extreme than I imagined?
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: kerick on January 03, 2023, 07:27:58 AM
Quote from: Snowtrooper on January 03, 2023, 06:41:58 AM
Quote from: kerick on January 02, 2023, 10:47:55 AMIf it's Russian then you need a collection of sticks so they can beat each other in the hot tub.
...is this referring to using a birch bunch to beat oneself and each other with the leaves (as opposed to the branch or the trunk itself) in a sauna (I fail to see how this would work in a hot tub), or is the Russian bathing culture just a wee bit more extreme than I imagined?

Definitely not an expert on that subject just thinking back to when a Soviet leader invited an American president to join him in a sauna and it involved whacking each other. Can't remember if it was Gorby and Reagan or after that. The invitation was not accepted.
BTW, the transporter is looking great!
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on January 07, 2023, 03:14:59 AM
Prime mover is painted.  Weathering next.
I shall be completing this part first as should I fail to complete the camper body I can still enter the prime mover alone in the GB.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on January 20, 2023, 02:18:42 AM
I'm calling this part nearly finished.  Just needs the rear window fitting plus the fuel tanks I forgot to attach to the rear.

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Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Rheged on January 20, 2023, 03:00:03 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 20, 2023, 02:18:42 AMI'm calling this part nearly finished.  Just needs the rear window fitting plus the fuel tanks I forgot to attach to the rear.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52638529905_4e62616a69_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ocue3r)Camper Tank WIP 20-01-2023 (https://flic.kr/p/2ocue3r) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

This VEHICLE looks as though it would suit the DROPS / PLS / EPLS system, with the attachment of a suitable pick up hook

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demountable_Rack_Offload_and_Pickup_System
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on January 20, 2023, 03:53:45 AM
Initially I saw this only as transporting the camper body which would have been permanently mounted.  However as it evolved I realised it should be demountable and progress is good on the second load (the Vegemite/Beer/Blue Cheese salad dressing tanker).  Alas, by that point it was too late to add an offload system without major reworking so loading and off loading is by crane.  I have added lifting points to the top of the camper body and the tank frame will have them built in.

Later versions of the <insert name here> have a motor driven winch mounted behind the cab which when combined with ramps allowed payloads to be loaded autonomously.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Gondor on January 20, 2023, 06:24:26 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 29, 2022, 12:18:45 AMChildhood exposure to a Dinky SHADO mobile may be involved in design decisions.


Funnily enough, a couple of days ago the Complete remastered box set of UFO arrived  :rolleyes:

Gondor
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 20, 2023, 07:57:19 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 20, 2023, 03:53:45 AM(the Vegemite/Beer/Blue Cheese salad dressing tanker). 


 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: zenrat on January 22, 2023, 03:31:42 AM
Which one were you most excited about Kit?  Blue Cheese Salad Dressing?
 ;)

The thing with this build is I can pose it with additional loads...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52641749166_97c668d9dd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ocLJ1W)Camper Tank WIP 22-01-2023 (https://flic.kr/p/2ocLJ1W) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

...this one is a 1/24 fridge I scratched up a while ago, originally for a Land Cruiser.
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Gondor on January 22, 2023, 04:17:10 AM
Is that the bio hazard container for the Vegemite/Beer/Blue Cheese salad dressing?

Gondor
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 22, 2023, 06:05:29 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 22, 2023, 03:31:42 AMWhich one were you most excited about Kit?  Blue Cheese Salad Dressing?
 ;)


Absolutely!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camper Tank (working title)
Post by: Rick Lowe on January 22, 2023, 06:24:47 AM
Quote from: Gondor on January 22, 2023, 04:17:10 AMIs that the bio hazard container for the Vegemite/Beer/Blue Cheese salad dressing?

Gondor

Must be - we all know how vile vegemite is dangerous blue cheese can be...  :rolleyes:  ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: zenrat on January 27, 2023, 03:35:32 AM
After spending time with Google Translate and Wikipedia I have decide on the name,

T-72 Perevozchik  (Перевозчик = carrier or transporter).

Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: zenrat on February 10, 2023, 01:43:53 AM
Running out of time.  The prime mover is finished but I am still hopeful about having at least one load on it in photos.

I am painting the camper body which is progressing but I also need to sort out the windows which need curtains on the inside to hide the fact there is no interior (I don't want to just paint them black).

The other load is mostly assembled and painted.  I have broken out the real rust effect paint for parts of the load frame.  This morning I scratched up end plates for the tank (a magnesium supplement bottle) complete with bolts, breather, pressure relief valve, fill/empty ports, and access/cleaning plate.

Of the two it is most likely the second load is the one I will finish by St Val's Day.  But it's not certain.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: zenrat on February 14, 2023, 02:43:19 AM
The prime mover is finished, the Camper body is still needing a reasonable amount of work, but while the "big tank" needs the weathering fettling and some signage it's good enough to post here.

T-72 Perevozchik.

Developed from the T-72 battle tank the Perevozchik (Transporter) was an unarmoured tracked prime mover intended for logistics operations in the rear echelon.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688576724_2f91d86352_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogUJdC)T-72 Perevozchik 85%  - 6 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogUJdC) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52687781067_4925209019_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogQDGp)T-72 Perevozchik 85%  - 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogQDGp) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688576679_8bcf086825_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogUJcR)T-72 Perevozchik 85%  - 8 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogUJcR) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Here it is carrying a bulk liquids tank.  It is unmarked but the size and configuration of vents, ports and valves strongly suggests it is a bioweapons culture/transit module.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688302336_207159da7b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogTjDN)T-72 Perevozchik 85%  - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogTjDN) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688302381_1e965c4460_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogTjEz)T-72 Perevozchik 85%  - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogTjEz) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688793848_727eb96043_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ogVQL9)T-72 Perevozchik 85%  - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2ogVQL9) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 14, 2023, 03:46:02 AM
Very good Fred.  :thumbsup:

I think I'd head VERY fast in the opposite direction if I saw one of them coming over the horizon!  :o
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: NARSES2 on February 14, 2023, 06:15:31 AM
And there's me thinking it was being used to transport vodka  ;)
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: Old Wombat on February 14, 2023, 06:34:47 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 14, 2023, 06:15:31 AMAnd there's me thinking it was being used to transport vodka  ;)

Some Russian vodka IS a bioweapon! :o


And another very good build, mate! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 14, 2023, 08:18:50 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on February 14, 2023, 06:34:47 AMSome Russian vodka IS a bioweapon! :o


 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: Rheged on February 14, 2023, 09:15:55 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on February 14, 2023, 06:34:47 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 14, 2023, 06:15:31 AMAnd there's me thinking it was being used to transport vodka  ;)

Some Russian vodka IS a bioweapon! :o


And another very good build, mate! :thumbsup:

I can see the Herefordshire Hussars using it as a cider tanker...............either for their own ration cider or as  a means of rendering any opposition legless.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: 63cpe on February 14, 2023, 10:31:21 PM
What a great idea this is! Love the stylish front vs the industrial looks of the T-72. Those tanks in the rear are a nice touch.

Well done!
David aka 63CPE
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: Wardukw on February 15, 2023, 12:49:40 AM
Well Fred mate ya know if it's got tracks then I'm automatically going to like it and yep...this is very cool man ..lovely weathering and high lights man  ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 15, 2023, 02:07:41 PM
Noice!  :thumbsup:
Yeah, the cab is a good, stylish design.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik.
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2023, 03:22:40 AM
Thanks folks.

Motor should still work.  Although I am a little concerned about damaging something if I run it.
But I can always repair it I suppose.
I might give it a run across the shed floor.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: Nick on February 16, 2023, 05:21:45 AM
Quote from: Rheged on February 14, 2023, 09:15:55 AMI can see the Herefordshire Hussars using it as a cider tanker...............either for their own ration cider or as  a means of rendering any opposition legless.

I can see the Yanks doing this with an M1 and a load of Budweiser.

The Coca-Cola Wars or the Pepsi Navy spring to mind too.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 16, 2023, 08:22:08 PM
Budweiser? You'll only annoy them with that... :rolleyes:

Standing well back to avoid the incoming...  ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on February 16, 2023, 09:57:50 PM
One of my worst hangovers was after a night spent drinking Budweiser in Manhattan.  Filthy stuff chock full of chemicals.

Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: NARSES2 on February 17, 2023, 03:19:23 AM
Yup I had a really nasty hangover, plus other side effects, from a night on Budweiser when I was in the States back in the 80's. At the time it was all the bar sold beer wise so I didn't visit that bar again and have never touched the stuff since.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on February 17, 2023, 03:35:50 AM
I switched to drinking vodka for the rest of that trip.  Problem solved.

I found the beer to be perfectly acceptable in Boston and when in Hawai'i drank mostly cocktails by the pool.   ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: NARSES2 on February 17, 2023, 03:41:18 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 17, 2023, 03:35:50 AMI switched to drinking vodka for the rest of that trip.  Problem solved.

I found the beer to be perfectly acceptable in Boston and when in Hawai'i drank mostly cocktails by the pool.   ;D

I switched to G&T a lot of the time, but as you say the beer in other cities I visited was fine.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on February 17, 2023, 04:12:17 AM
If I understand correctly each state has different laws relating to what can be used to make beer.  NY allowed all sorts of crap to be included and thoughtfully required them to be listed on the label.


Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: NARSES2 on February 18, 2023, 03:42:45 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 17, 2023, 04:12:17 AMIf I understand correctly each state has different laws relating to what can be used to make beer.  NY allowed all sorts of crap to be included and thoughtfully required them to be listed on the label.




Wasn't aware of that. Would explain a lot
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on February 18, 2023, 04:02:58 AM
Work has recommenced on this.
I have made some Hazmat signs for the Big Silver Tank which was the last thing I wanted to add to it other than a touch more weathering.
I then found some curtains for the camper body, painted the window frames, made a front door, painted the hot tub control panel, and attached sheets of ply to the roof so it can be walked about on.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on March 10, 2023, 02:35:31 AM
Construction on the camper body was completed today with stretched sprue railings around the deck and up both sets of stairs.
Some of the railings are a bit not straight but we'll put that down to a vodka soaked general falling against them.

Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: NARSES2 on March 10, 2023, 06:03:54 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on May 12, 2023, 06:51:44 AM
Picked this up today to contemplate weathering for the camper body and discovered one of the rubber tracks has let go.
They were stretched tight over the wheels to ensure traction and the kit is fairly old so I probably shouldn't be surprised.
I've glued it to the tops of the front and rear wheels which is hidden by the bodywork.  It looks OK but obviously will no longer be motorised.
Shame.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: Rick Lowe on May 12, 2023, 04:02:56 PM
"If you can't move, you're a Pillbox. If you can't fight, you're a Bunker. If that doesn't work, you're Heroes."
Movie 'The Beast'.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on December 18, 2024, 03:56:35 AM
And after 18 months it's back.   :o

On the camper body I've just removed all the stretched sprue railings, shaved off all the superglue residue, redrilled all the wire holes, reattached all the posts I snapped off doing that and then strung elastic rigging thread as railings.
Paint repair is under way and i'm looking at building up a couple of figures to stand on the roof as security.
This has been sitting on a table in my shed uncovered and so has developed a nice light dust layer - a technique I call slow weathering...

The other track on the tank part had let go when I got it out of the display case so both are now glued firmly in place.  Shame, as it was fun running this up and down the floor.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5.
Post by: zenrat on February 18, 2025, 03:39:12 AM
Finally finished.  Whats that, two years late?

T-72 Perevozchik.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335741350_89e0326fe8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMsSSJ)T-72 Perevozchik - 8 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMsSSJ) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

Developed from the T-72 battle tank the Perevozchik (Transporter) was an unarmoured tracked prime mover intended for logistics operations in the rear echelon.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335552808_8c0efb0bcf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrUQ1)T-72 Perevozchik - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrUQ1) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335542914_6d42211e03_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRTq)T-72 Perevozchik - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRTq) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

In addition to the usual military logistics loads Perevozchks transported the mobile Dachas which accommodated senior generals when they were required close to the front (but not THAT close).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335741115_656cd1bdd2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMsSNF)T-72 Perevozchik - 20 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMsSNF) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335542494_70a383ceac_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRLb)T-72 Perevozchik - 24 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRLb) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Dacha shown is that of Field Marshal General Fedor Fedoravich.  After a hard days Generalling he liked to relax in a hot tub with a ripe brie, chilled vodka, and a young factory girl (or was it a chilled brie, a young vodka, and a ripe factory girl?).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335542709_47f321647c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRPT)T-72 Perevozchik - 11 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRPT) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335542559_e90a1fecc5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRMi)T-72 Perevozchik - 22 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMrRMi) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335322041_a4f543d2b3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMqJeg)T-72 Perevozchik - 18 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMqJeg) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr

The Model.
Kitech 1/48 T-72
AMT allegedly 1/25 camper body (it is more like 1/50 and thus works nicely as 1/48.
Liquid transport module built from a plastic pill bottle and fresh scratch.
Field Marshal General Fedorovich is a resin figure.  I forget from where.
Hot tub is the childproof cap from a painkiller bottle.  The (murky) looking water is 5 minute epoxy.
The wood effect on the decking and the walkway sheeting on the roof are all painted by hand.
Rooftop guard is a Tamiya figure.

And much to my surprise the hinged access ladder still hinges...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54335741060_d83ed0437f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qMsSMJ)T-72 Perevozchik - 27 (https://flic.kr/p/2qMsSMJ) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr



Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 18, 2025, 04:39:46 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 18, 2025, 03:39:12 AMAfter a hard days Generalling he liked to relax in a hot tub with a ripe brie, chilled vodka, and a young factory girl (or was it a chilled brie, a young vodka, and a ripe factory girl?).


Probably ALL of the above!  ;D

What a CRACKING build Fred, even if it has been  ages. It's obviously matured in that time.  ;D
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: NARSES2 on February 18, 2025, 05:49:18 AM
Wonderfull  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: frank2056 on February 18, 2025, 08:28:31 AM
It was worth the wait!  The hot tub could also act as a small vodka container for the General.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: ericr on February 18, 2025, 09:20:53 AM
 :o  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: kerick on February 18, 2025, 07:33:59 PM
Hillbilly heaven! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: Rick Lowe on February 18, 2025, 08:08:32 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: Old Wombat on February 19, 2025, 01:10:21 AM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :mellow:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: zenrat on February 19, 2025, 02:18:42 AM
Thanks folks.  It's good to finally get it into a display case.
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on February 19, 2025, 10:16:29 AM
Mad! I like it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: T-72 Perevozchik. Some pics pg 5. Finished pics pg 7.
Post by: zenrat on February 20, 2025, 03:03:06 AM
Thanks mate.